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[kennah]

I have another question:

My PC currently runs a heatsink(hyper 212 evo, 2500k...4.4ghz OC at 30c). I am building a new PC and planning to sell the current one I have. I have made the decision to go with the i7 4770k(and yes, I am OC the processor to the max), and I'm trying to decide if I should go with the Cooler Master Hyper 101i or should I just step into the water cooling arena and go with the CORSAIR Hydro Series H80i High Performance Water/Liquid CPU Cooler?

The heat problems with Haswell mean that unless you are going to delid the processor you'll only see minor improvements (if any at all) from anything beyond the hyper 212 and H60/80.

Go with he Hydro series. They're nice and quiet and look great in a case too.

 

[LeGourmand]

Hey PCGAF,

I'm looking to buy some 23-24 inch monitor for people at work.

Don't need anything fancy on the quality side. But i need something that is adjustable.

Since most monitor are Dell around here it's what i looked up first. For now i've found this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260055

Do you think i can find something cheaper, in Canada, that have similar adjustability.

Thanks.

 

[kennah]

http://www.corsair.com/us/outlet-store.html

Corsair Outlet Store.

AX760 for $90
H100 for $60
H60 for $40
400R for $50

Think of it as the same kind of thing as the Apple Refurbished Store.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Couple questions. When connecting system fan they are 3 pins while mobo has 4...do you just connect and leave one empty pin? Next. For connecting stuff like power and reset switches how do you tell which is positive and negative. Some are labeled some aren't.

 

[Josh378]

http://www.corsair.com/us/outlet-store.html

Corsair Outlet Store.

AX760 for $90
H100 for $60
H60 for $40
400R for $50

Think of it as the same kind of thing as the Apple Refurbished Store.

I might buy that H60 since it's the only 1150 socket support refurb they have. Also, whats the difference between the H60 and the H80i? Is the cooling difference a big or a small gap?

 

[kennah]

Couple questions. When connecting system fan they are 3 pins while mobo has 4...do you just connect and leave one empty pin? Next. For connecting stuff like power and reset switches how do you tell which is positive and negative. Some are labeled some aren't.

Yep, just leave an empty pin.

And ones that aren't labelled don't matter because all the switch does is close the loop.

 

[Addnan]

http://www.corsair.com/us/outlet-store.html

Corsair Outlet Store.

AX760 for $90
H100 for $60
H60 for $40
400R for $50

Think of it as the same kind of thing as the Apple Refurbished Store.

If the warranty is the same. The AX760 is a steal.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Yep, just leave an empty pin.

And ones that aren't labelled don't matter because all the switch does is close the loop.

Ok thanks

 

[kharma45]

NCIX in the US has a 1050w XFX fully modular Gold PSU for $100 at the minute. I know practically no one here needs that much power but still, heck of a unit for the price!

No stock at the minute but worth keeping an eye on whilst it's on offer.

http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffi...6&vpn=P11050BEFX&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1145

If the warranty is the same. The AX760 is a steal.

Description says 7 year warranty for it.

 

[Josh378]

If the warranty is the same. The AX760 is a steal.

And I just brought the HX750 for $100 on Newegg....CRAP....

(just brought the H60 liquid cooling...like a boss)

 

[fluffydelusions]

For 280x I popped it in slot. But I notice there is 2 connections on the back of card. Do I hook that psu? Manual doesn't say anything about it

 

[AcridMeat]

Hey guys a couple deals today.

One, this ram (corsair vengeance 8gb) is $75, considering jumping on it, though again who knows how much cheaper the Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals will be...

Also people may be interested in this, Cooler Master Hyper TX3 for $20 ($15 if you care about a mail in rebate). Personally I'd just get a 212 still.

 

[Addnan]

For 280x I popped it in slot. But I notice there is 2 connections on the back of card. Do I hook that psu? Manual doesn't say anything about it

Yeah, depending on which one you have you will need 6 and 8 pin or 2x 8pin.

 

[Felix Lighter]

Hey guys a couple deals today.

One, this ram (corsair vengeance 8gb) is $75, considering jumping on it, though again who knows how much cheaper the Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals will be...

Also people may be interested in this, Cooler Master Hyper TX3 for $20 ($15 if you care about a mail in rebate). Personally I'd just get a 212 still.

This ram is cheaper:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...102513-Latest-_-DesktopMemory-_-20231546-L07B

$63.74

 

[AcridMeat]

This ram is cheaper:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...102513-Latest-_-DesktopMemory-_-20231546-L07B

$63.74

It is, but I'm also exceptionally anal without reason when it comes to egg scores. The vengeance has 88% 5, 2% 1, compared to 85% 5, 9% 1.

It's a stupid way to think, but I really want to minimize any DOA or RMAing.

 

[Sanjay]

http://www.corsair.com/us/outlet-store.html

Corsair Outlet Store.

AX760 for $90
H100 for $60
H60 for $40
400R for $50
.

I hate how cheap Americans get quality cheap psu's.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Well everything is hooked up. I'm just waiting on ups with memory. Hopefully it will turn on lol

 

[Felix Lighter]

It is, but I'm also exceptionally anal without reason when it comes to egg scores. The vengeance has 88% 5, 2% 1, compared to 85% 5, 9% 1.

It's a stupid way to think, but I really want to minimize any DOA or RMAing.

I can appreciate the desire to minimize potential issues.

 

[systematic]

If the warranty is the same. The AX760 is a steal.

Unfortunately it's only one year:

Refurbished or Factory Reconditioned Products

Corsair offers a 30-day, replacement-only warranty for refurbished or factory reconditioned Memory, SSD and USB parts.
Corsair offers a 90-day, replacement-only warranty for refurbished or factory reconditioned Audio and Gaming Peripheral units.
Corsair offers a 1 year, replacement-only warranty for refurbished or factory reconditioned PSUs, Cases and Cooling units.

http://www.corsair.com/us/support/warranty/

 

[maneil99]

So my GPU has been rock solid so far with its OC on a modded bios. 3 months no issues really. A few BF3 Hardlocks but those seem to have been driver related. Anyways, Batman Arkham origins randomly downclocked me while in game from 1254/6600 to 575/6010

Now my modded bios removes Power limits and GPU Boost so its not that. Even other games did the same, had to reboot to fix this. Changing clocks in EVGA PX didn't help either. Nothing in the event log aswell....

bump since it was 2 am when I posted

 

[Addnan]

bump since it was 2 am when I posted

You will probably find it hard to find much help here since I can't imagine many messing about with modded bios.

 

[Azulsky]

So based on the reviews of the 290x, it looks like its the same as a 780 when both are OC'ed

Hopefully it will make Nvidia drop the price of the 780 to match.

 

[kennah]

You will probably find it hard to find much help here since I can't imagine many messing about with modded bios.

That and I think people are a bit reluctant to try to help after the whole '3570K is dying thing'. maneil is on a whole other plane of existence when it comes to computers

 

[No Love]

So my GPU has been rock solid so far with its OC on a modded bios. 3 months no issues really. A few BF3 Hardlocks but those seem to have been driver related. Anyways, Batman Arkham origins randomly downclocked me while in game from 1254/6600 to 575/6010

Now my modded bios removes Power limits and GPU Boost so its not that. Even other games did the same, had to reboot to fix this. Changing clocks in EVGA PX didn't help either. Nothing in the event log aswell....

That and I think people are a bit reluctant to try to help after the whole '3570K is dying thing'. maneil is on a whole other plane of existence when it comes to computers

Maneil is in luck, as I have BIOS modded quite a few cards, including Kepler cards.

Maneil, I ran into the exact same issue with my 780's just 2 days ago. OC was locked down to low power 3D state even at full load, on both cards.

Here's the solution: Uninstall and reinstall EVGA PrecisionX, and upgrade it if you don't have the latest version. Reset all your OC's and voltage.

This should clear up the issue. PrecisionX seems to have a temporary issue with modded BIOSes, and it seemed to manifest after I modded the vBIOS and it got mixed up with what clocks should be applied. After doing the above, my 780's went back to full OC @ 1.2 Ghz, no more getitng hung up at low power 3D clocks (5xx mhz).

 

[Redx508]

ok so i got 8.1 But iam getting the secure boot isn't configured correctly on the desktop
but it looks like my XFX 7870 does not have a uefi bios on it so i can't enable secure boot on my Z77A-GD65 Any help on updating my card

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

Just to make sure, there's nowhere I can buy a 290x at this point in time?

 

[Addnan]

Just to make sure, there's nowhere I can buy a 290x at this point in time?

You can keep refreshing newegg until stock comes

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

You can keep refreshing newegg until stock comes

I have been! My life is a sad shell!

 

[maneil99]

Maneil is in luck, as I have BIOS modded quite a few cards, including Kepler cards.

Maneil, I ran into the exact same issue with my 780's just 2 days ago. OC was locked down to low power 3D state even at full load, on both cards.

Here's the solution: Uninstall and reinstall EVGA PrecisionX, and upgrade it if you don't have the latest version. Reset all your OC's and voltage.

This should clear up the issue. PrecisionX seems to have a temporary issue with modded BIOSes, and it seemed to manifest after I modded the vBIOS and it got mixed up with what clocks should be applied. After doing the above, my 780's went back to full OC @ 1.2 Ghz, no more getitng hung up at low power 3D clocks (5xx mhz).

Thanks will do. Seems like batman is weird. GPU is rock solid OCed, turned off vsync, game crashed with a driver error in event log right away. This normally happens if a GPU isn't stable but I have tested this gpu ALOT. Anyways, rebooted and it works fine now. Guess its a game issue?

 

[maneil99]

That and I think people are a bit reluctant to try to help after the whole '3570K is dying thing'. maneil is on a whole other plane of existence when it comes to computers

Heeey OCD isn't fun. And that chip was dying

 

[maneil99]

I have been! My life is a sad shell!

Wait for aftermarket coolers if you can

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

Wait for aftermarket coolers if you can

I was planning on getting the reference card and switching out the cooler myself, but it seems like I'll have to wait anyway at this point.

 

[No Love]

Thanks will do. Seems like batman is weird. GPU is rock solid OCed, turned off vsync, game crashed with a driver error in event log right away. This normally happens if a GPU isn't stable but I have tested this gpu ALOT. Anyways, rebooted and it works fine now. Guess its a game issue?

Game was doing the same thing to me whenever I'd change any setting. It'd just freeze the whole system.

Raised voltage on CPU + GPU, problem went away. Check your CPU vcore first.

 

[505zoom]

I'm about to order stuff for my first build, and was hoping you fine folks would take a gander at my list and let me know if anything looks bad (and I should feel bad).

Going to use this in the living room, where I have a 32" 1080p Samsung and a 65" 1080i Mitsubishi. Mainly will be using it for streaming from the WiiU/GC/N64, but would like it to run games decently as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($83.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Logitech K270 Wireless Standard Keyboard ($26.29 @ NCIX US)
Total: $980.16
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-25 16:57 EDT-0400)

 

[ndawgdrake]

I'm about to order stuff for my first build, and was hoping you fine folks would take a gander at my list and let me know if anything looks bad (and I should feel bad).

Going to use this in the living room, where I have a 32" 1080p Samsung and a 65" 1080i Mitsubishi. Mainly will be using it for streaming from the WiiU/GC/N64, but would like it to run games decently as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($83.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Logitech K270 Wireless Standard Keyboard ($26.29 @ NCIX US)
Total: $980.16
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-25 16:57 EDT-0400)

I'd recommend you get low-profile ram modules. Those Patriots look like they jut upwards quite a bit, which could cause CPU Cooler clearance issues.

 

[maneil99]

Game was doing the same thing to me whenever I'd change any setting. It'd just freeze the whole system.

Raised voltage on CPU + GPU, problem went away. Check your CPU vcore first.

Yea mine just instantly crashed to desktop and I'd have a driver crashed error in the windows event log. CPU vcore didn't help. Did you get driver crashes or just hardlocks?

 

[505zoom]

I'd recommend you get low-profile ram modules. Those Patriots look like they jut upwards quite a bit, which could cause CPU Cooler clearance issues.

Phew good catch there, I didn't even notice the extra bit there on those... I had some Mushkin sticks on the list for 89 bucks, but they went unavailable right before I posted so I swapped over to the Patriot's without really looking.

Thanks bud.

 

[fluffydelusions]

What do I use to test the paste job on my cpu is good?

 

[Addnan]

What do I use to test the paste job on my cpu is good?

check the temps when its under load. Use HWMonitor.

 

[fluffydelusions]

check the temps when its under load. Use HWMonitor.

Is there a software to stress cpu to test? What should temps be while idle/stressed?

 

[Addnan]

Is there a software to stress cpu to test? What should temps be while idle/stressed?

Prime95 is the go to CPU stress test. Just run a normal blend test. Idle is not so important under load it is safe into the 90s. Although with the hyper 212 at stock speeds with Haswell(?) it shouldn't go close to that.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

Is there a software to stress cpu to test? What should temps be while idle/stressed?

Prime95 is great stress-test software that many people use for overclocking.

If you CPU is under 60C at load, you're right as rain. Some CPUs are fine at higher temps, but 60 is a good, generic temperature to aim for. Your idle temperature doesn't matter much as long as it isn't much over 60. My CPU, for example, idles at 60C, but is steady as 50C when my fans and pump kicks in at load.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Cool thx guys will report back. Still waiting on ups for my memory before I can even turn it on

 

[Celcius]

Just got the email saying my Caselabs Merlin SM8 has shipped. I'm looking forward to next week already

 

[kennah]

Just got the email saying my Caselabs Merlin SM8 has shipped. I'm looking forward to next week already

Oh drool. I want a Case Labs soooo bad.

 

[kharma45]

Actually nm.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Ok trying to install windows. I see my drives but it won't format any of them. Also there are 2 broke pins on one of the usb 3 connectors on the mobo. Should I rma it?

 

[maneil99]

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...h-orange/e5d31c5e-ae84-4ebd-bbe9-9428f410560b

Nothing their effects my GPU right? What exactly does it cahnge? Just wondering the background tasks that go on by chaning the color profiles of windows

 

[Redx508]

Anyone with the same thing

ok so i got 8.1 But iam getting the secure boot isn't configured correctly on the desktop
but it looks like my XFX 7870 does not have a uefi bios on it so i can't enable secure boot on my Z77A-GD65 Any help on updating my card

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

hey brothers, this thead helped me to build a great PC back in 2011 and now i'm looking into building another one but basically for my TV..... so i suppose like what steambox is supposed to be.

i was looking around and saw the alienware x51. i did a bit of research on it and it technically is what i'm looking for but i figured i'd see if there is a way to build something similar myself. as i said earlier this will strictly be used on my 1080p plasma TV.... so i won't be running anything over 1080p. price is technically a factor (i don't feel like spending $900 on the alienware version) but i COULD afford that if i felt it was an amazing PC.

anyone have any experience with building a "console" PC that can provide some guidance? thanks!