SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
i'm not buying in the US since my country's import taxes are obnoxious, but here all three are basically in the same price, with the BOOST being a little more expensive.
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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 2. Haswell = #IntelnoTIM, but free online. READ THE OP.
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So I won this PC from Alienware. It was from some giveaway I entered a while ago. Wanted to know if I should sell and get something better with that money. I say that since I was going to build a gaming rig as a christmas gift to myself. I mainly play World of Warcraft.
These are the specs;
Intel® Core i7-4820K Processor (10M Cache, up to 3.90 GHz)
8GB Quad Channel DDR3 at 1600MHz
AMD Radeon HD 8870 with 2GB GDDR5
Its the Alienware Aurora R4.
These are the specs;
Intel® Core i7-4820K Processor (10M Cache, up to 3.90 GHz)
8GB Quad Channel DDR3 at 1600MHz
AMD Radeon HD 8870 with 2GB GDDR5
Its the Alienware Aurora R4.
TC McQueen
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Aside from the amount of RAM, that seems like a really high end rig. It's a bit much for WoW, even with their new graphics updates.
650Ti 2GB then overclock it.
Hmm
I'd just say keep using it then unless you can get a high street price for it, no way to know until you know how much you can get out of selling it + fees + hassle.
That's a great specced system and completely overkill if you just play WoW.
I've put over 80lbs of force on my cpu, don't sweat it. The 212 doesn't even let you tighten it that much.
If you had washers to allow you to go further then maybe you could have a concern.
ab.aeterno
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Pretty great build for the price. Amazing what you can get for <$1000 now.
Glad too to hear it was a good price. I'm hoping the performance gains from having them in crossfire well help me stave off the upgrade bug for a while longer.
Most of the worst Crossfire issues have been addressed with new firmware, correct?
On a single monitor it's a lot better now.
Keep it and enjoy it.
I didn't see it, will go look now.
NOOOOOOOOOOO, I can't believe I missed out on this. After a year or so, I'm finally in the position to buy my equipment for my new rig, and I definitely could use something like this. That's affordable too.
Is there another card that I can get that's good and is for a good price?
Kaveri is an entry level solution really, it'll not be in your sights.
Yes the Z87W is probably your best bet if you want 16GB of RAM but as I said previously there is absolutely no need for so much RAM if you're just gaming, you're throwing away good money that could be spent elsewhere.
Out of those motherboards you've linked I'd get the ASUS Z87-A. GPU is your call, either that Sapphire 7850 or the EVGA ACX 760.
760 is the better buy over a 600 series card unless you can find a good deal on a 670/680.
Anything on my list here that stands out as overpriced or a bad combination? Most of the parts were inspired by mkenyon's small form factor guide. Though some of the choices I made were based on aesthetics.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/23psI
Main use is gaming, and there is no deadline. Hoping to hang on to this list and pick up individual pieces as they go on sale.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/23psI
Main use is gaming, and there is no deadline. Hoping to hang on to this list and pick up individual pieces as they go on sale.
I have the 2g 650ti boost and I like it.
Hironobu Sakaguchi
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i'll check the prices again and give you what else i can find in the price limit of your 3 sets you suggested
as for the RAM, i used to have this in NEW condition:
http://www.gskill.com/en/product/f3-12800cl9d-8gbxl
bought it for $45 and sold it before 8 months after my friend convinced me with the 16GB, now the same ram i had is sold for $70+ !!!! i think i'll kill my friend T_T
back then the HDD prices were high, and RAM is cheap, now i think the opposite is applying
as for the point of wasting money buying 16GB instead of 8GB, do you think the same is applied if i wanted to take core I7-5770K instead of I5-4670K?
as for the GPU, i think 760 is the best option if my budget going well, but if i went for AMD 7850 / R9 270X, how much the difference in performance between these 3 cards for 720p/1080p gaming ?
as for EVGA GeForce GTX 760 w/ EVGA ACX Cooling VS. N760 TF 4GD5/OC (GeForce GTX 760 GAMING), the difference in the price locally is about $51 more for MSI, should i go with it or stick with EVGA 2GB ?
hoping to find salvation in black friday
thanks again
hey guys as i mentioned earlier I ended up buying a 7970, and whilst I got a decent boost I am nowhere near 60fps on high settings. I did a graph thing while running BF4, and apparently the CPU is up the shit.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sfnqv63p5q...Win32-0001.png
I have a Gigabyte MA790Gp Motherboard. Would an AMD 8320 CPU fix my frame rate issues? Are there better CPU's to choose from? Is the motherboard itself causing issues also? What's the benefit of replacing it? Also I was going to chuck in another 4GB of ram.
Thanks guys
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sfnqv63p5q...Win32-0001.png
I have a Gigabyte MA790Gp Motherboard. Would an AMD 8320 CPU fix my frame rate issues? Are there better CPU's to choose from? Is the motherboard itself causing issues also? What's the benefit of replacing it? Also I was going to chuck in another 4GB of ram.
Thanks guys
Get a better PSU and a larger SSD.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
2gb Boost is too expensive here for my budget, although the extra VRAM would be nice i read that the 1gb is pretty good too.
Any recommendations for a better CPU?
I'm sure it would. My cousin has the 1g version and he loves it. Mine was my first Nvidia card.
CreepingFear
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If you want to stick to AMD's side, then 8350. Other wise, I'd go with Intel Core i5 or i7.
Thanks. Yeah, I'm gonna stick with AMD just so I don't have to buy a new mobo.
Yeah, if you have an 8350 compatible mobo, go AMD over intel.
starwarsfan541
Banned
If I make a recovery disk in windows 7 can I reset it to factory and not need the license key?
Thanks for any help in advance trying to fix a computer
Thanks for any help in advance trying to fix a computer
Ugh. Has anyone here had any luck gaming at above 1080p? I was looking at the Seiki 55" UHDTV but it seems HDMI 1.4 is incapable of delivering above 30fps.. which is kind of a deal breaker. Now I'm looking at 1440p as a (hopefully cheaper) alternative. Probably won't need more than one card to drive it, etc.
All of this to upgrade/replace my HD 5970 which is a great card but it's showing it's age a bunch recently. (Need to OC just to get decent FR at 1080p) ugh, what a mess.
All of this to upgrade/replace my HD 5970 which is a great card but it's showing it's age a bunch recently. (Need to OC just to get decent FR at 1080p) ugh, what a mess.
CreepingFear
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I think 1440p is probably the better option. There's a lack of 4k monitors still, and the standards haven't been worked out. I think the 4k monitors can only do 30hz right now, but I might be wrong on that. It's also going to be hard to maintain 60fps that most gamers would like. I still think it will be another 2-3 years until 4k is more mainstream, doable for most people.
demosthenes
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What?
Yeah, unless you have a near infinite amount of time and money to throw at super high res gaming it isn't really a great idea right now.
At 4k resolutions, not 1080p.
At 4k resolutions, not 1080p.
I use a Dell U3014, which is 1600p.
Im not really a fan of losing any more pixel density. If this Asus 4k 39" pans out I might get it as a TV
Ok, guys, I need some help.
I'm putting together a PC for a buddy.
Got it all put together and it boots fine w/o a harddrive into the BIOS.
So then I plug in the harddrive I was going to give him, a Seagate Baracuda 7200 1TB. And it doesn't recognize anything. Which is weird because I just had it plugged up to my system and it worked fine.
So I thought maybe the harddrive just finally kicked the bucket. So I ran up to the store and got a WD Blue 1TB. I got it home, plugged it up and it literally started smoking. I quickly pulled the powersupply and took the harddrive back to exchange it.
Thankfully I turned on the PC and none of the other parts seem to be damaged but what the fuck is going on?
Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
i5 3570k
Asrock Extreme Pro 3 z77
Rosewill Hive Modular Gaming Powersupply 750W
Sapphire Radeon 7970
8GB Kingston DDR3 1600MHZ
Lian-Li 200 ATX Case
I'm putting together a PC for a buddy.
Got it all put together and it boots fine w/o a harddrive into the BIOS.
So then I plug in the harddrive I was going to give him, a Seagate Baracuda 7200 1TB. And it doesn't recognize anything. Which is weird because I just had it plugged up to my system and it worked fine.
So I thought maybe the harddrive just finally kicked the bucket. So I ran up to the store and got a WD Blue 1TB. I got it home, plugged it up and it literally started smoking. I quickly pulled the powersupply and took the harddrive back to exchange it.
Thankfully I turned on the PC and none of the other parts seem to be damaged but what the fuck is going on?
Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
i5 3570k
Asrock Extreme Pro 3 z77
Rosewill Hive Modular Gaming Powersupply 750W
Sapphire Radeon 7970
8GB Kingston DDR3 1600MHZ
Lian-Li 200 ATX Case
demosthenes
Member
Oh gotcha.
ss_lemonade
Member
Anyone with a vg248qe get more visible dithering when using the lightboost hack? 0 blur looks so nice but at the same time, I feel like its hurting image quality
Yeah .. it seems like a much better option overall. Some 4k screens can do 60fps .. but I'm not exactly trying to spend thousands of dollars for this project xD
That being said, a single 7970 or 780 should do the trick at 1440p, correct? Maybe I won't have to swap out the AMD FX 4100 after all..
CreepingFear
Member
Here's a benchmark comparison between the 7970 ghz edition and the 780. http://anandtech.com/bench/product/827?vs=768
There are 1440p results. You can decide if one card looks better than the other. At this point, I'd get a 290 or 290x custom cooler card if you are going AMD for cards, unless you can still find a 7970 for a great price. What's your budget for cards?
CreepingFear
Member
I'm a believer, no problems at all. There was an issue with mouse latency, but that was just patched on tuesday. I know BF4 saw significant improvements in fps, not sure if Windows 7 has caught up to 8.1 yet with a patch or not. If you are one of those people that must have that silly old fashioned start menu, get classic shell for free or stardocks start8 for $5. Now that 8.1 has the option to boot to desktop, I see the Metro start screen even less.
SapientWolf
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I don't know about dithering, but it takes a huge dump on color accuracy, which was already iffy to begin with. Everything has a blue tint. Viewing angles might be worse too. Still worth it though.
Now that 4k is off the table I'm looking at 2 1440p monitors and a card to drive it, my budget is roughly 1k. I really, really don't want to get last years high end card. (Did that with the 5970 which was fine at first, but as the years crept on it really started to shit out on me. For this reason I am also leaning toward Nvidia, but AMD isn't a total deal breaker if there's a good enough value. I do have a AMD 4100, I dunno if that matters as far as AMD/AMD .. it probably doesn't. Also hope that CPU can handle 2 monitors at 1440p.
Agreed, I like 8.1 and I use Metro more than I thought I would (Netflix, etc.) but now that the boot to desktop option is there the OS optimizations really make it a solid choice.
Your power supply might be bad
CreepingFear
Member
I think it comes down between the 780ti and the 290x for you then. I'm getting the 780ti myself when the EVGA Classified ACX version comes out.
I have been using the Netflix Windows 8 app since it does super hd or whatever netflix calls it. The regular browser version doesn't.
ss_lemonade
Member
I tried to take some pictures with my phone:
Normal:
With Lightboost:
The pictures may be a little off but the dithering should be visible enough. I'll probably just try adjusting some settings in the nvidia CP and see if I can hide those
About to bite the bullet on this build and just thought I'd seek last minute input.
My intention is to build a Xen Hypervisor rig to serve up a few Linux VMs and a Win7 VM.
I chose a processor and motherboard that supports Vt-d for VGA passthrough to the Windows VM.
I want to be able to play Civ5, Starcraft 2, and Diablo 3 at 1080p 60fps.
The Linux VMs will need graphics support. I need to run a light window manager on top of Arch with a Virtual Box install running an always-on virtualized web server (Ubuntu Server for this). The Intel Graphics will drive.
Ambitious? Maybe.
i7 4770 (non-K for vt-d support)
GIGABYTE GA-Q87M-D2H LGA 1150 Q87 mATX
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 1600
GIGABYTE R9 280X 3GB 384-bit GDDR5
CORSAIR RM Series RM650 650W
SAMSUNG 840 EVO 2.5" 120GB (x2)
Corsair Obsidian Series 350D mATX
BenQ GW2255 Black 21.5" 6ms
Rosewill Mechanical Keyboard - STRIKER RK-6000
Total damage is about $1600
Any objections?
My intention is to build a Xen Hypervisor rig to serve up a few Linux VMs and a Win7 VM.
I chose a processor and motherboard that supports Vt-d for VGA passthrough to the Windows VM.
I want to be able to play Civ5, Starcraft 2, and Diablo 3 at 1080p 60fps.
The Linux VMs will need graphics support. I need to run a light window manager on top of Arch with a Virtual Box install running an always-on virtualized web server (Ubuntu Server for this). The Intel Graphics will drive.
Ambitious? Maybe.
i7 4770 (non-K for vt-d support)
GIGABYTE GA-Q87M-D2H LGA 1150 Q87 mATX
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 1600
GIGABYTE R9 280X 3GB 384-bit GDDR5
CORSAIR RM Series RM650 650W
SAMSUNG 840 EVO 2.5" 120GB (x2)
Corsair Obsidian Series 350D mATX
BenQ GW2255 Black 21.5" 6ms
Rosewill Mechanical Keyboard - STRIKER RK-6000
Total damage is about $1600
Any objections?
CreepingFear
Member
Will you be running the games on the host OS or the Windows 7 VM? I've heard that games don't run as well on VM's as they do natively on a physical machine. I have VM's myself, but I haven't tried gaming on them. Assuming you are running the games on the host OS, everything looks great for running VMs. You have good taste in cases too
Will you be running the games on the host OS or the Windows 7 VM? I've heard that games don't run as well on VM's as they do natively on a physical machine. I have VM's myself, but I haven't tried gaming on them. Assuming you are running the games on the host OS, everything looks great for running VMs. You have good taste in cases too
Games will run on the Windows VM. The host OS is Linux and all containers are running on a type 1 hypervisor, in this case Xen ESXi.
What makes this possible is the VT-D technology of the cpu and motherboard, allowing me to dedicate hardware, such as the VGA, to the Windows VM. Performance will be about the same as running on metal, possibly a small drop.
LeGourmand
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Hello PCGAF,
I'm starting to think i should get a new PC, a full new setup actually, new desk, new monitor, new everything.
I'm in no hurry at all, so i want to buy, at first, stuff i could already use, since i can't afford everything right now. So i was thinking of getting 2 monitors at first. Would getting 2 Asus VG248QE right now be a great choice? Then wait and see if g-sync module is really worth it, price wise and whatnot, later on when i get a new card/ new PC.
Any info on how the module install process will look like, i mean, it shouldn't be really hard, unless there is soldering to be done, and even then, my soldering ain't that bad.
TLR should i buy Asus VG248QE now, or wait for more info on the g-sync version of the monitor?
I'm starting to think i should get a new PC, a full new setup actually, new desk, new monitor, new everything.
I'm in no hurry at all, so i want to buy, at first, stuff i could already use, since i can't afford everything right now. So i was thinking of getting 2 monitors at first. Would getting 2 Asus VG248QE right now be a great choice? Then wait and see if g-sync module is really worth it, price wise and whatnot, later on when i get a new card/ new PC.
Any info on how the module install process will look like, i mean, it shouldn't be really hard, unless there is soldering to be done, and even then, my soldering ain't that bad.
TL
R should i buy Asus VG248QE now, or wait for more info on the g-sync version of the monitor?Unless you need 100% 3D performance on Linux (for what?), I'd say it would be a better idea to use Windows as the host OS and do whatever you need to do in Linux in a VM. OpenGL virtualization works pretty damn well these days, and this way you don't get any problems with game performance.
I think AndyB said there wouldn't be any soldering involved. But if you are not in a hurry it would probably not hurt to wait a few weeks.Hello PCGAF,
I'm starting to think i should get a new PC, a full new setup actually, new desk, new monitor, new everything.
I'm in no hurry at all, so i want to buy, at first, stuff i could already use, since i can't afford everything right now. So i was thinking of getting 2 monitors at first. Would getting 2 Asus VG248QE right now be a great choice? Then wait and see if g-sync module is really worth it, price wise and whatnot, later on when i get a new card/ new PC.
Any info on how the module install process will look like, i mean, it shouldn't be really hard, unless there is soldering to be done, and even then, my soldering ain't that bad.
TL
rudieboy77
Member
I finally bought my first part for my gaming PC, got a "SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100351VXSR Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB" for $239 of Newegg just now. I couldn't imagine a HD7970 being any cheaper on black Friday. I just hope it's a decent enough card, my plan is to not OC and try to keep everything as cool as possible in my PC.
you'll be able to OC and still keep it cool. It's a good cooler.
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