I'm thinking on getting a nice pair of headphones. Right now I'm between the Sennheiser HD518 or Sennheiser PC 323D. Thoughts?
I'm the biggest motherboard whore on this forum.The mobo is overkill. I want overkill. But if there is a better option cost/performance wise, I'm willing to consider it.
Hell, I would have put a titan in there for the video card, but I feel thats a little too much. I have no problem dropping $500 each on the CPU, MOBO, and video card. but $1000+ on just the video card.... that's too much.
I really want to pick up a new GPU (my 5970 is toast.) but everyone online is saying that this is the worst time to buy one?
I was looking at the 4GB 770 on newegg for $379... Is this not a good deal? If not, how long should I wait for prices to drop after CES and new product announcements?
Never been this confused with PC parts tbh
Overkill motherboard, drop to the Gigabyte UD3H. Get a 4770K. Swap SSD to the 840 Evo or Kingston HyperX 3K
Very nice rig, but if you scroll up to my previous post you'll see the PC I just ordered that's slightly better and for cheaper then the one you have built.
Most online PC part shops have an option to build your parts for you for like $50 extra. Better then purchasing a pre built.
Just do some research on compatibility between parts.
Is there a significant difference between Corsair Vengeance LP (1600Mhz) and Corsair Vengeance Pro (1866Mhz-2133Mhz). The price difference is minor (~£15 for the highest clock), so is it worth it?
Also I am in a dilemma for the GPU. I originally opted for the 3GB EVGA GTX 780 SC ACX, but would it be worth it to upgrade to a Ti? It's a major hike in price (+£170).
While I would like to avoid an AMD GPU if possible (as explained in my first post I need to be able to perform CUDA computations), would it be more optimal? What about Mantle?
As you can probably tell, I am still somewhat confused
Thanks for the recommendation. Done!
I think the actual build option is only about ~£50. Most of the discrepancies between my build and yours seems to stem from the high differences in prices between US/Canada and UK.
Absolutely none. Don't waste your money on higher clocked RAM.
I'd just stick with the 780. Whilst the 780 Ti is a fantastic bit of kit it doesn't warrant the price premium, but that's just me. If you can afford it and want the very best Nvidia offer go for it!
As for an AMD GPU, the non-reference 290 and 290X that are filtering out now are phenomenal cards, the 290 especially, but if you need CUDA forget about them.
The vendor I use only offers XFX Radeon cards. Are these non-reference? I might give up on CUDA if the difference with a 780 (non-Ti) is significant enough for games.
They're the reference versions from looking, and you don't want an XFX card either.
If you're not planning to SLI then the 550W Corsair RM could be an option too.
The hard drive is the same as anything in a pc. It just will need formatting.I finally got some torx screws and managed to remove my iMac's HDD
Sorry for the extremely shitty pictures, I used my tablet. Do I need extra steps in order to mount the HDD on a PC?
Also, I've been wondering if I can recycle the iMac's DVD drive. I remember reading somewhere that it needs proprietary drivers but I can't find anything online.
I was playing Total Rome II. I go to change the graphic settings so they are lower.
When it changes the graphics I get a red screen and my computer restarts. When it turns back on the resolution was set to the minimum instead of 1080x1920p.
All of my desktop icons were in a jumble. Before I rearranged them I walk away and while I'm gone the computer goes on stand by. When I come back the screen won't wake back up (computer comes on). I try restarting but, it wan't come back on.
After trying to figure it out I plug a VGA cable into the back of the motherboard and hook other end into back of the monitor. I get the screen working. When I plug a DVI cable into motherboard or graphics card it will not work. So screen is working.
I check to see if my graphics card has a driver because something like this has happened before. I download the latest driver and try to install it, it installs successfully but when I checked in the device manager there was no driver listed, my graphics card was not even listed.
I take the graphics card disk and put in the disk drive and install the driver from it and again it says it was successful but, again it was not there. I tried uninstalling the driver and used a driver cleaning software. I restart the computer and try using the graphics card disk to install it's driver and again says it is successful but it didn't install.
I tried uninstalling the driver, it said it could not find anything to uninstall.
A GPU is probably one of the easiest things to upgrade in a PC. That £170 difference for ~14% better performance, well to me it's not worth it. I'd rather keep the £170 and down the line use it towards an upgrade on say a 20nm card when they are available at the end of 2014 or early-ish 2015. The 780 isn't going to struggle with anything you throw at it.
Fractal Design Define R4 [R4 in Black Pearl]
£136.64
Gigabyte Z87 Motherboards [Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H - SLI and Crossfire Support]
£258.20
Intel Core i7 4770K, 3.5GHz Quad Core with HT, 8MB Cache
£37.18
Thermalright HR-02 Macho CPU Cooler
£133.92
16GB Corsair Vengeance LP - 1600MHz, CAS 9-9-9-24, 1.5V
£389.74
3GB EVGA GTX 780 SC ACX, 967MHz GPU, 2304 Cores, 6008MHz GDDR5
£76.26
550W Corsair RM, Modular, Silent, 80PLUS Gold - Any Single Graphics Card
£137.10
240GB Solid State Drives [250GB Samsung 840 EVO - 540MB/s Read, 520MB/s Write, 97K IOPS]
£62.15
1TB+ System Hard Drives [2TB Seagate Barracuda, 7200rpm, 64MB Cache]
£13.18
Samsung SH-224DB - 24x DVD Reader & Writer
£70.57
Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit
The hard drive is the same as anything in a pc. It just will need formatting.
As for the dvd, you will have a hard time getting it working. Essentially it is a laptop drive, so special connector. However you should be able to sell it because the drives fail pretty often.
Yes and yes. Case is amazing and EVGA make great cards.You are right, seems like a better approach. My current specs look as follows:
Code:Fractal Design Define R4 [R4 in Black Pearl] £136.64 Gigabyte Z87 Motherboards [Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H - SLI and Crossfire Support] £258.20 Intel Core i7 4770K, 3.5GHz Quad Core with HT, 8MB Cache £37.18 Thermalright HR-02 Macho CPU Cooler £133.92 16GB Corsair Vengeance LP - 1600MHz, CAS 9-9-9-24, 1.5V £389.74 3GB EVGA GTX 780 SC ACX, 967MHz GPU, 2304 Cores, 6008MHz GDDR5 £76.26 550W Corsair RM, Modular, Silent, 80PLUS Gold - Any Single Graphics Card £137.10 240GB Solid State Drives [250GB Samsung 840 EVO - 540MB/s Read, 520MB/s Write, 97K IOPS] £62.15 1TB+ System Hard Drives [2TB Seagate Barracuda, 7200rpm, 64MB Cache] £13.18 Samsung SH-224DB - 24x DVD Reader & Writer £70.57 Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit
Seems ok?
Final questions before I pull the trigger: is the case good? I only went for it because it is described as silent and looked good. Also, is the EVGA card a relatively good 780? It's the only 780 offered by the vendor so I would rather go with it if at all possible.
Thank you all for your help, made the choices so much easier.
Thermalright HR-02 Macho CPU Cooler
£37.18 inc VAT
Corsair H80 Hydro - High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
£59.40 inc VAT
Corsair H100i Hydro - High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
£88.92 inc VAT
I've been getting more and more into PC gaming as of late, and my Asus G74sx isn't cutting it. So 2014 will be the year I build a desktop gaming PC.
This is what I'm thinking...
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-4820K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($348.25 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Black Edition EATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($515.31 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($155.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($156.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($479.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $1736.50
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-30 19:33 EST-0500)
They only list 3 but I could most likely get in touch with them to use a custom part if necessary. Would rather one of those though as I can get a discount if using the default options:
Code:Thermalright HR-02 Macho CPU Cooler £37.18 inc VAT Corsair H80 Hydro - High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler £59.40 inc VAT Corsair H100i Hydro - High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler £88.92 inc VAT
I think I'm facing one of the easiest decisions of my life:
I was ready to order the Asus GTX 770 but for 310 (with those 3 games) but suddenly the Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X is already available in Spain por 395 with Battlefield 4.
Hardware-wise, it is, as you say, a very easy decision.
However, please be aware that Battlefield 4 has...issues.
Got a link by chance? On wifi at the hospital atm ><Liquid. I wish I had a good job
And there is a cheapish blower/vacuum that people recommend from Amazon. Costs like $25. Lasts years.
I already told you to figure out your budget . There are no amazing deals in Canada this year. And any that were decent are long sold out.Anyone seeing any good deals on cpu or gpu in Canada?
I already told you to figure out your budget . There are no amazing deals in Canada this year. And any that were decent are long sold out.
(I already was doing a little looking around for you this morning)
Pm me links and I'll let you know if it's a good deal or notHaha, thanks.
I'm looking locally on Kijiji for something cheap and that I can upgrade slowly with.
no, there wouldn't be any difference other than more power consumption and heat in your case causing your fans to spin ever so slightly faster and be a little bit louderSpeaking of getting the upgrade itch, this is my current build.
My graphics card is still decent (playing the latest games at either max, or high @ 60fps). I just bought a bunch of motherboard speakers... that's how desperate I am to tinker with this.
I'm thinking another 8GB of RAM. Would it be worth £60? And does it need to be the same speed/brand, or would it just underclock itself?
no, there wouldn't be any difference other than more power consumption and heat in your case causing your fans to spin ever so slightly faster and be a little bit louder
What are the implications of a move to a 20mm process? Less power hungry GPUs?
I have read this CPU -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117286 -- is about as powerful as an i7 but for the price of the i5 you are looking into.So after many years I've decided to take my first stab at building a PC. I'll be getting some help from a friend, but am in the early stages of picking my setup. My budget is $1500 for the PC itself, not including peripherals (I'd go higher if need be). After checking some articles, here is my tentative build from PC part picker. Any thoughts/input/insults as to where to add or reduce cost would be helpful and appreciated:
CPU Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core $233.99
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing $27.98
Motherboard Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 $184.99
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $89.99
Storage Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" SSD $162.99
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $59.98
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB $334.98
Wireless NA Asus USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 $19.99
Case Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower $59.99
Power Supply Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V $95.99
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $16.99
OS Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) $97.98
Total: $1385.84
The i5 will be faster than the Xeon in games thanks to the unlocked multiplier. In media and multithreaded work by all means use the Xeon or an i7 but games need that massive single thread.I have read this CPU -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117286 -- is about as powerful as an i7 but for the price of the i5 you are looking into.
The only difference is the Xeon has no integrated graphics, but quite frankly, who cares? I think they are harder to overclock as well, but if you aren't into that, all the more reason to consider this (and really if you have i7 performance why in the world would you want to even overclock, I have a FX-6300 which is considerably slower and yet I have no need to OC even).
But yeah, if what I have been reading is true then you should consider getting essentially a free upgrade to i7 performance.
This is meaningless unless you want to OC, correct?The i5 will be faster than the Xeon in games thanks to the unlocked multiplier. In media and multithreaded work by all means use the Xeon or an i7 but games need that massive single thread.
If you don't want to overclock then a Z87 board and improved cooler aren't necessary either. But if the computer is just for games then it should be overclocked.This is meaningless unless you want to OC, correct?
Is it a 660 or 660 Ti?
I use a 660, bought it in June -- wishing I got at least a 760 instead, but it'll do for now.
20nm. Smaller chips that use less power, meaning we get new architectures and performance boosts, and not rebadges and enormous monstrosities like the Titan/780/290(/X) on the high end.
Should bring gains in price/performance if manufacturing costs are reasonable (which may not be the case).
I have a 5850 right now, was planning to get a 280X or 7970GHz if I found one cheap. Mining killed that, 770 is too expensive and I'm just not feeling like a 760 is going to last as long as I'd like it to. Might end up being what I go with though if we aren't seeing any new GPUs for a while and I'll just end up upgrading sooner than I'd like. Feels like burning money though, and that feels bad
New architectures? As someone who will build my first gaming rig ever, sounds like worth waiting for. But uh, I know nothing. And I can't imagine that happening within 6 weeks, which is when I'll start ordering things. It won't require a mobo upgrade, will it?