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[demosthenes]

Just want to comment on the build I had about 2 weeks ago. i5 + 780 video card. Really liking it and the case (Fractal Design Define R4) I get is so nice!

Tomb Raider on everything maxed runs silky smooth:

Interesting how I'm not the only PS4 owner looking to buy their first gaming rig.

I got a Wii-U for Christmas by surprise (always intended to get one eventually), will get a PS4 next May and as this post says I just built a PC. It's the holy trinity just like PC/Wii/PS3 was for me last gen :

 

[Bboy AJ]

Interesting how I'm not the only PS4 owner looking to buy their first gaming rig.

If you're planning to build soon I wouldn't bother waiting. We might not get anything new until the second half of 2014 at the rate things are going. I've even seen some people say NVidia's Maxwell might not even start on 20nm, which would be a massive disappointment if true. Not even sure that would make sense.

You wouldn't need a new motherboard for a GPU upgrade though, especially since whatever you're getting now should have PCIe 3.

Ah, that sounds alright. Thanks. Sucks that my timing isn't perfect but that's OK.

 

[LordAlu]

Hey GAF,

Am really thinking of buying a new PC to game with but would appreciate some opinions of those in the know. I have a PS4 at the moment and would still keep this.


Your Current Specs: Nothing
Budget: £500-600, UK
Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest:
Light Gaming (4), Gaming (5), General Usage (2).

Monitor Resolution: I have a Sony 42" TV to plug into @ 1920 x 1080. That resolution is fine for me as a maximum. But I might want a monitor as well to play the more kb/m oriented games at a desk as I still haven't found a great solution for this despite trying many.

List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Any multi platform games I'd hope to be able to plug into the TV and enjoy on the big screen with PS4 controller (with better performance than consoles). I'd like to be able to run whatever is current at high settings (games like Rome:Total War II, LoL, ACIV, Witcher 3 - not really fussed about FPS as I'm gradually moving more and more away from them).

Is 30FPS acceptable? 60 as a minimum for the above games with high settings.

Looking to reuse any parts? No
When will you build? Just scoping out prices, if I get a great deal prob end of Jan. If not, more end of April time.
Will you be overclocking? Possibly, though not essential

Cheers....

You'd be looking at something like the below:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus H87M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£68.24 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£179.59 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£47.98 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£49.13 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £580.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-31 17:54 GMT+0000)

Just add Windows.

 

[cormack12]

You'd be looking at something like the below:

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Just add Windows.

Cheers dude, really appreciate that.

 

[Thorgal]

Interesting how I'm not the only PS4 owner looking to buy their first gaming rig.



Ah, that sounds alright. Thanks. Sucks that my timing isn't perfect but that's OK.

Technically there is never a great timing to build a pc because what you want to buy now wouæd be beaten by new stuff coming out in 6 Months so why not wait for that .you think .

Then when 6 months are almost done you hear of even better stuff comming out another 6 months later so why not wait for that ?
repeat.

eventualy you are going to have to make a decision.

Edit: damn i suck at typing on my phone .

 

[chaosblade]

Technically there is never a great timing to build a pc because what you want to buy now wouæd be beaten by new stuff coming out in 6 Months so why not wait for that .you think .

Then when 6 months are almost done you hear of even better stuff comming out another 6 months later so why not wait for that ?
repeat.

eventualy you are going to have to make a decision.

The problem with this logic is that the "new" is sometimes not worth waiting for. Other times it's totally worth waiting for. It's generally irrelevant when you're first building though because you're going from nothing -> something. It's when you start upgrading that I think the questions of "worth waiting?" start coming into play.

The R9 series, unless you were interested in paying for 290/X tier performance, wasn't worth it because it was rebadges. About the same for the 700 series. In fact even disregarding mining you were better off buying early while 7950s for $200ish while the R9 series released, much better bang for buck than you can get right now.

Die shrinks and new dies or architectures could be worth it if you know when it's coming, but right now we really don't.

 

[brentech]

BST Crosspost as mentioned above, selling my MSI 660 after upgrading

SELLING
Have a used MSI N660 TF 2GB OC Edition available.
Part # G57-V100997-Y47
Reference links (Amazon) : (Newegg) : (BF3 Benchmark)
Shipping in original box, inside of a box.

Some pictures:


Bonus picture from when it was in my system:

Paypal or Amazon gift card is fine.
$160 Or best offer. Just want to avoid eBay if possible.

There's some more pictures if you click into the BST thread. Just packaging stuff and the card out of my system.

 

[Anton668]

my friend is having a issue atm. his sys specs are:
Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155
8GB Memory
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950

He was playing Total Rome and and and had to lower the settings, then things went south...

I was playing Total Rome II. I go to change the graphic settings so they are lower.
When it changes the graphics I get a red screen and my computer restarts. When it turns back on the resolution was set to the minimum instead of 1080x1920p.
All of my desktop icons were in a jumble. Before I rearranged them I walk away and while I'm gone the computer goes on stand by. When I come back the screen won't wake back up (computer comes on). I try restarting but, it wan't come back on.
After trying to figure it out I plug a VGA cable into the back of the motherboard and hook other end into back of the monitor. I get the screen working. When I plug a DVI cable into motherboard or graphics card it will not work. So screen is working.
I check to see if my graphics card has a driver because something like this has happened before. I download the latest driver and try to install it, it installs successfully but when I checked in the device manager there was no driver listed, my graphics card was not even listed.
I take the graphics card disk and put in the disk drive and install the driver from it and again it says it was successful but, again it was not there. I tried uninstalling the driver and used a driver cleaning software. I restart the computer and try using the graphics card disk to install it's driver and again says it is successful but it didn't install.
I tried uninstalling the driver, it said it could not find anything to uninstall.

so my question is has his GPU given up the ghost or is there something he missed?

anyone with ideas or suggestions?

 

[kennah]

Yeah pretty much only 'bad' to buy now because nothing is 'new', it's a generation of rebadges on both sides.

 

[Sid]

So what are we expecting next year on the GPU & CPU side?

Edit:does this build sound good?

CPU:i7-950
GPU:GTX 770 2GB
RAM:Corsair Dominator DDR3 12GB Triple Channel Memory
Mobo:Asus Sabretooth X58
PSU:Cooler Master 850W Silent Pro M2 (80+)

 

[Hazaro]

On a separate note - what is the concensus on those expensive portable air blowers for cleaning out dusty components?

Metro Vacuum ED500 DataVac 500-Watt 0.75-HP Electric Duster
www.amazon.com/Metro-Vacuum-ED500-500-Watt-Electric/dp/B001J4ZOAW/

 

[Coreda]

So, really, how loud are the cards like the EVGA 760 with the 'blower' style fans?

As I'm looking at a small case without as much airflow it seems the only option, but I'd hate for it to be humming even on idle. Anyone here have one?

 

[peppermints]

Put a new motherboard in my case last night. Everything else is the same, except for a new SSD as well.

My CPU is showing at 88C with just Chrome open. I reapplied thermal paste on the CPU and heatsink. The pins wouldn't go down all the way on the heatsink, so my guess is it's not making proper contact with the CPU

I'm using the stock Sandy Bridge 2500k heatsink - anyone have any tips for getting it to go in all the way to the motherboard? I'm considering buying a new heatsink as a solution, because I pushed as hard as I was comfortable doing and it just wouldn't go in - only one side would.

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

Why is Company of Heroes 2 such a resource hog! It honestly doesn't look that great from a graphic standpoint compared to other visual fested games.

I guess RTS just hog the system like crazy.

 

[Hazaro]

So, really, how loud are the cards like the EVGA 760 with the 'blower' style fans?

As I'm looking at a small case without as much airflow it seems the only option, but I'd hate for it to be humming even on idle. Anyone here have one?

0 point in buying blower imo, cooler GPU > slightly warmer case

 

[Coreda]

0 point in buying blower imo, cooler GPU > slightly warmer case

Even in a case like the Hadron Air? Some have told me the CPU may get too hot with the air passed from the GPU. First time build and don't want to make the wrong decision

 

[Hazaro]

Even in a case like the Hadron Air? Some have told me the CPU may get too hot with the air passed from the GPU. First time build and don't want to make the wrong decision

It makes sense, but I'd need to see benches. I'm way more concerned with lower GPU temps than CPU and if the blower is loud then I wouldn't want to use one anyway.

If you don't mind the noise go for it, but I'm not buying a blower cooler again.

 

[M09482]

So guys, what's the word on AMD Xfire? I have a Gigabyte Windforce HD 7950 and it struggles to maintain 60 fps on the latest games even at 1080p. So I am looking to get a second 7950 for smoother gaming. I've read that the latest drivers have mostly resolved the issue with xfire but I would like to get GAF's opinion. Or, would I be better off selling the 7950 and going with Nvidia instead for SLI?

 

[Azulsky]

It makes sense, but I'd need to see benches. I'm way more concerned with lower GPU temps than CPU and if the blower is loud then I wouldn't want to use one anyway.

If you don't mind the noise go for it, but I'm not buying a blower cooler again.

It really comes down to how much air you are pushing out of the case. This is because the blower cards take care of this for themselves and the ACX type coolers push essentially no air out the case on their own, and they contribute nothing to the net flow of air in the case(positive, negative pressure)

It might not matter that much on the 760 because its just lower wattage. It makes a difference on the higher end 250-300W cards.

I think on the Hadron Air you will be okay. You can call EVGA if you are really unsure

I would not get any blower again other than the titan style one.

 

[Coreda]

It really comes down to how much air you are pushing out of the case. This is because the blower cards take care of this for themselves and the ACX type coolers push essentially no air out the case on their own, and they contribute nothing to the net flow of air in the case(positive, negative pressure).

I'm thinking of inverting the top fans to intake (really only for dust reasons), and adding a CPU cooler, which leaves just the PSU and GPU fans. Would this be adequate do you think to move air? From the photos there are holes in the case behind the board, bottom, top and a little at the back.

Hopefully EVGA gets back to me as well to confirm. Will be a relief if it's all good

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

I have an audio question.

I recently got a pair of Astro A40s with no mixamp. I can get stereo audio just fine right now, but I want to have 5.1 surround for gaming. What is the minimum I need to get to achieve this? My motherboard has an optical out (S/PDIF), but would I need a 5.1 sound card in order to get true surround? I understand for gaming (ideally) I want Dolby Digital Live (which I'm assuming my MOBO doesn't do), but is there a DDL solution under $100?

In any case, will I still need to get a mixamp to convert the optical signal into something the headset can receive?

I'm seeing some mixamps like this Soundblaster X-fi 5.1, but I'm concerned that since my motherboard isn't actually outputting DDL 5.1 from my optical, this wouldn't be true 5.1 in games. Am I misunderstanding? My motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-970A. Any advice is appreciated!

 

[MisterNoisy]

Metro Vacuum ED500 DataVac 500-Watt 0.75-HP Electric Duster
www.amazon.com/Metro-Vacuum-ED500-500-Watt-Electric/dp/B001J4ZOAW/

+1.

This thing is the end-all be-all of cleaning your PC shit.

 

[Metalmurphy]

Gotta question for PC-GAF.

I currently have a HD6870 with a i5 750. I just had to buy a new PSU cause my old one blew up and ended up buying a decent one that could feed another GPU.

What do you guys think it's the better price/performance choice, Crossfire with another card or just get a new GPU?

 

[MisterNoisy]

Gotta question for PC-GAF.

I currently have a HD6870 with a i5 750. I just had to buy a new PSU cause my new one blew up and ended up buying a decent one that could feed another GPU.

What do you guys think it's the better price/performance choice, Crossfire with another card or just get a new GPU?

New GPU. Crossfire still sorta sucks.

 

[Metalmurphy]

New GPU. Crossfire still sorta sucks.

Is it still the micro stuttering problem or just not optimal utilization of both GPUs?

I was wondering if just getting another card to cross fire could proximate the performance of a decent GPU for half the price.

 

[MisterNoisy]

Is it still the micro stuttering problem or just not optimal utilization of both GPUs?

I was wondering if just getting another card to cross fire could proximate the performance of a decent GPU for half the price.

Yes.

 

[mkenyon]

Sell your current card, get a new single card. Always.

 

[kharma45]

So guys, what's the word on AMD Xfire? I have a Gigabyte Windforce HD 7950 and it struggles to maintain 60 fps on the latest games even at 1080p. So I am looking to get a second 7950 for smoother gaming. I've read that the latest drivers have mostly resolved the issue with xfire but I would like to get GAF's opinion. Or, would I be better off selling the 7950 and going with Nvidia instead for SLI?

It's reasonably OK for most titles on a single screen now but I'd still tend to avoid any multi GPU set up when I can. If it were me I'd just overclock your 7950 if you haven't already to eek out extra performance and wait for the new 20nm cards near the end of the year.

Gotta question for PC-GAF.

I currently have a HD6870 with a i5 750. I just had to buy a new PSU cause my old one blew up and ended up buying a decent one that could feed another GPU.

What do you guys think it's the better price/performance choice, Crossfire with another card or just get a new GPU?

It's not worth Crossfiring a 6870. Sell it, buy a new card and overclock your i5 if you haven't already.

Hi friends,

For those of you thinking about building a new rig:

Newegg has the AMD FX-8320 on sale for $129.99 if you use the promo code. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285

Also the FX-4300 for $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113287

If you get the 4300 (a 95W CPU) the 970A-G46 is a great mobo (I use it). Do not however buy it for 125W FX cpu's, MSI is finally admitting there are some VRM issues there.

These are great CPU's. No they aren't as good as an i5, but if your budget is tight spend <$100 or just a little over and put the extra money towards a really good GPU. These chips won't bottleneck them.

They're frankly not great at all. Much better off with a Haswell i3.

Hey GAF,

Am really thinking of buying a new PC to game with but would appreciate some opinions of those in the know. I have a PS4 at the moment and would still keep this.


Your Current Specs: Nothing
Budget: £500-600, UK
Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest:
Light Gaming (4), Gaming (5), General Usage (2).

Monitor Resolution: I have a Sony 42" TV to plug into @ 1920 x 1080. That resolution is fine for me as a maximum. But I might want a monitor as well to play the more kb/m oriented games at a desk as I still haven't found a great solution for this despite trying many.

List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Any multi platform games I'd hope to be able to plug into the TV and enjoy on the big screen with PS4 controller (with better performance than consoles). I'd like to be able to run whatever is current at high settings (games like Rome:Total War II, LoL, ACIV, Witcher 3 - not really fussed about FPS as I'm gradually moving more and more away from them).

Is 30FPS acceptable? 60 as a minimum for the above games with high settings.

Looking to reuse any parts? No
When will you build? Just scoping out prices, if I get a great deal prob end of Jan. If not, more end of April time.
Will you be overclocking? Possibly, though not essential

Cheers....

You'd be looking at something like the below:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus H87M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£68.24 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£179.59 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£47.98 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£49.13 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £580.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-31 17:54 GMT+0000)

Just add Windows.

I wouldn't get a reference 760. I'd also go slightly less on the GPU front and more on the CPU front since upgrading a GPU is much easier and you'll get better long term bang for buck from the CPU. Both the 7870 and 660 are basically the same price, I'd lean towards the 7870 but the free games with the 660 are nice

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£162.00 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.90 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£72.00 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card (£136.39 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£38.65 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£48.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £585.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-01 01:01 GMT+0000)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£162.00 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.90 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£72.00 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card (£129.90 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£38.65 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£48.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £579.42
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-01 01:02 GMT+0000)

 

[Metalmurphy]

R9 280X-DC2-3GD5 It is then. Cheers for the help.

How much do you guys think I can get for an Asus EAH6870?

It's not worth Crossfiring a 6870. Sell it, buy a new card and overclock your i5 if you haven't already.

I have, it's at 3.2 right now.

 

[kharma45]

280X is a nice card still, and the new ASUS cooler is great.

Good stuff on the OC.

As for a rough price just look on eBay to get an idea is what I'd do.

 

[kennah]

Best time ever to sell a 6850. Price is so inflated should easily get over $100 for it.

 

[Salaadin]

Any ideas why my F ractal R4 fan controller only spins the fans at the 12V setting? 7V and 5V do nothing. Everything is hooked correctly.

 

[Anton668]

my friend is having a issue atm. his sys specs are:
Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155
8GB Memory
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950

He was playing Total Rome and and and had to lower the settings, then things went south...

I was playing Total Rome II. I go to change the graphic settings so they are lower.
When it changes the graphics I get a red screen and my computer restarts. When it turns back on the resolution was set to the minimum instead of 1080x1920p.
All of my desktop icons were in a jumble. Before I rearranged them I walk away and while I'm gone the computer goes on stand by. When I come back the screen won't wake back up (computer comes on). I try restarting but, it wan't come back on.
After trying to figure it out I plug a VGA cable into the back of the motherboard and hook other end into back of the monitor. I get the screen working. When I plug a DVI cable into motherboard or graphics card it will not work. So screen is working.
I check to see if my graphics card has a driver because something like this has happened before. I download the latest driver and try to install it, it installs successfully but when I checked in the device manager there was no driver listed, my graphics card was not even listed.
I take the graphics card disk and put in the disk drive and install the driver from it and again it says it was successful but, again it was not there. I tried uninstalling the driver and used a driver cleaning software. I restart the computer and try using the graphics card disk to install it's driver and again says it is successful but it didn't install.
I tried uninstalling the driver, it said it could not find anything to uninstall.

so my question is has his GPU given up the ghost or is there something he missed?

UPDATE: since I last spoke to him. he has removed the card, ran driver sweeper, and installed his brothers GT 640. It wouldnt work in his system..
so at this point... motherboard?

 

[clem84]

Currently looking to buy a new graphic card. This is my PC

- i7 2600
- 8GB 1600 RAM

I'm looking at a single card solution. I don't want to get a card that's too much for this PC. So what would be the best possible card that this PC could handle?

 

[Anton668]

Currently looking to buy a new graphic card. This is my PC

- i7 2600
- 8GB 1600 RAM

I'm looking at a single card solution. I don't want to get a card that's too much for this PC. So what would be the best possible card that this PC could handle?

hell, you could put a titan in there if you really wanted!
but..
what PSU do you have? motherboard?
what do you expect out of a GPU?

 

[clem84]

hell, you could put a titan in there if you really wanted!
but..
what PSU do you have? motherboard?
what do you expect out of a GPU?

I bought the PSU knowing that I was going to get a pretty good card later on. I bought it February 2011, almost 3 years ago, so I'm not sure but I think it's around 700 or 750W.

MOBO is an Asus P8P67PRO. There was a recall on this board and I never changed it. I'm about to buy a new one and I kinda dread having to rebuild my PC almost from scratch. So I thought, why not get a pretty good graphic card. It's as good a time as any.

What do I expect from the GPU? Well I'm not sure. I haven't played that many PC games in the last few years because my PC was not built for games but I'd like to get back into it. I will probably play StarCraft 2 a lot. Probably a bit of BF4 too.

 

[RedSwirl]

Holy shit. I just had MSE do a fully scan of my new rig and it took literally 30 seconds. Malware Bytes took 12 hours to do a fully scan of my old computer's C Drive alone.

I have to ask again: Is this because of the SSD or because I've only had this computer like two weeks and there isn't that much on it to scan? Edit: The drive I full scanned has about 60GB of stuff on it.

 

[clem84]

Ok I just checked the prices for titans and I'm not willing to put 1K into a GPU. So what would be the current best bang for your buck GPU?

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Holy shit. I just had MSE do a fully scan of my new rig and it took literally 30 seconds. Malware Bytes took 12 hours to do a fully scan of my old computer's C Drive alone.

I have to ask again: Is this because of the SSD or because I've only had this computer like two weeks and there isn't that much on it to scan? Edit: The drive I full scanned has about 60GB of stuff on it.

You kind of answered your own questions

New and small SSD with not a lot of filler.

MSE or anything runs well enough and I have about 190GB left on my 240 Pro 256GB SSD. I'm not eager to fill it though.

How much is the going rate for an MSI reference 670? Looking to offload it for the impending 780ti's.

 

[CRS]

UPDATE: since I last spoke to him. he has removed the card, ran driver sweeper, and installed his brothers GT 640. It wouldnt work in his system..
so at this point... motherboard?

It's weird since it was working previously but you can check to see if there are any updates available to your motherboard's BIOS.

Update the BIOS, uninstall graphics card drivers, and reinstall them.

 

[Anton668]

Ok I just checked the prices for titans and I'm not willing to put 1K into a GPU. So what would be the current best bang for your buck GPU?

I was hella kidding with the titan

a lot comes down to what your budget is

 

[kennah]

You kind of answered your own questions

New and small SSD with not a lot of filler.

MSE or anything runs well enough and I have about 190GB left on my 240 Pro 256GB SSD. I'm not eager to fill it though.

How much is the going rate for an MSI reference 670? Looking to offload it for the impending 780ti's.

200-225

 

[Sid]

So what are we expecting next year on the GPU & CPU side?

Edit:does this build sound good?

CPU:i7-950
GPU:GTX 770 2GB
RAM:Corsair Dominator DDR3 12GB Triple Channel Memory
Mobo:Asus Sabretooth X58
PSU:Cooler Master 850W Silent Pro M2 (80+)

Help?

 

[kennah]

Help?

What do you want. We need more context for your questions.

Cpu gpu - faster ones when they come. New ones were just released. We will get more info about the new stuff closer to its release. There is no point to speculating.

The build. Is it one you have or one you are buying? Good for what?

No one answered because you didn't give enough info to answer

 

[Sid]

What do you want. We need more context for your questions.

Cpu gpu - faster ones when they come. New ones were just released. We will get more info about the new stuff closer to its release. There is no point to speculating.

The build. Is it one you have or one you are buying? Good for what?

No one answered because you didn't give enough info to answer

I have most of those parts besides the GPU & currently have 6GB RAM,can I upgrade to these parts without having any bottlenecks or other issues?

 

[kennah]

Budget for the upgrades? Is your cpu overclocked?

 

[Sid]

Budget for the upgrades? Is your cpu overclocked?

~$650 is the budget,my CPU isn't OC'd.

 

[BoboBrazil]

Are Nvidia's 8 series cards still supposed to be coming in March/April?

 

[CreepingFear]

It's been a great year for the PC. See you guys in the 2014 thread.

 

[MadmanUK]

Looking to upgrade my 660 GTX to a 770 4GB but i've got a 550w Gold PSU. Will it be sufficient or should i be looking at a 650w?