phxxBullet
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Wanna know that too.
I feel like building a completely new rig, but my current one is capable of everything I want it to be, so it woulda be a waste to build a new one o:
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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine
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Wanna know that too.
I feel like building a completely new rig, but my current one is capable of everything I want it to be, so it woulda be a waste to build a new one o:
When I build my new one in 8-12 months I was thinking of putting my old PC parts into as small a case I can so that its easy to take to LAN parties. Also might use it as a media center or something.
IMO the $30 on the mobo and CPU is worth it since it's about a 20% cost increase and will keep the CPU honestly faster than anything that will be released in the next 3-4 years if you OC. To me that's far too high a value proposition to pass on (Especially since you can overclock on stock voltage).
If you are set on not overclocking then that's just about the perfect budget machine.
What? I had it all wrong then, thought it was a new socket, Haswell-E being the refresh with added DDR4 support, also you're right, the 3570k is more expensive on Amazon atm.
The problem is that I'm from Mexico, generally every component we buy here is imported from the US and the cost is always the MSRP + 15%% tax + international delivery charges, if the refresh is the same or lower MSRP of the 4670k, then I will wait.
I guess it's settled then
SSD first, HDD down the road.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv5dCXiXFaw
Coming from an old AMD E-350 laptop, the upgrade will feel MASSIVE.
Something has to be wrong with my computer. I just installed Crysis 3, and when it loads, the screen keeps minimizing and freezing everytime I try to bring the game to the front. It just flashes and then minimizes to the desktop, similar to how Counter Strike was. I feel like it will work fine if I can get it to run in windowed mode. Does it have to do wiht my graphics card or drivers?
Deaf Spacker
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Is the below benchmark for my SanDisk Ultra Plus 256GB SSD any good?
To be honest sinced I got it I've never been impressed by the boot performance, it takes 40 seconds to get to the Windows 7 desktop after I power on my PC with the boot GUI disabled, is that normal?
Outside of booting everything is crazy fast so I'm not sure whether I'm worrying over nothing.
SSD Benchmark by Deaf Spacker, on Flickr
Sorry for the slight bump but can plugging the SSD into Marvell have a negative effect on the performance?
DrBaalzamon
Member
Yes. Marvell are worse than Intel, even sata3 vs sata2. I only use them as a last resort, mainly for disc drives.
Yes. Just upgrade from Windows 7.
Deaf Spacker
Memb
Thanks, I have a suspicion that it is plugged into Marvell as it shows up under Marvell in the Bios.
Guys, do you have any tip for scratched LCD screen? My mother came and tried to clean my room by dusting and scratched my screen with a swiffer type of thing. The scratch is screen wide on the bottom and mostly show up on white. It's not ruined, but I still ordered a second screen that I wanted earlier that I wanted.
I used some petrolium jelly and it did mask the scratch a little bit but it's still visible a little. I wont notice it when playing but it's still a little annoying.
I used some petrolium jelly and it did mask the scratch a little bit but it's still visible a little. I wont notice it when playing but it's still a little annoying.
OldAsUrSock
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When are mobos going to support DDR4? Aren't they releasing this year?
brain_stew
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The extra memory isn't for increased performance in the here and now it's to give your card better longevity. If you plan to keep this card for at least 18 months then snap up the deal asap.
You will only notice if you do lots of writes, like video editing, copy large files, and etc.
X99 chipset along with Haswell-E CPUs. Last I heard, June.
Nostremitus
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Maybe it's set at a resolution your monitor can't display. I've had this issue with a few games. I had to go into the configuration file and set my monitor's native resolution. (I have a 1050p 16:10 monitor)
I give mine away generally.
Yeah, you've got some major issues going on. I'm not sure what either.
Have you looked in your processes to see what's using the majority of the ram? That's crazy usage!
Nope..it's set at 1680x1050. I am running a dual monitor setup, where the second monitor is a lame smaller size. Could that cause issues? It never did on my old Windows 7..
Any chance it's because of either Windows N or 8.1?
Yea, nothing too out of the ordinary. I do have about 20 tabs open in Chrome but that's normal for me.
Just now the screen stayed black and I had to force shut down. It had the DVI logo on the top which indicates no signal to me. I don't know what's going on. My comp ran Prime95 fine for like an hour so it can't be my overclock..maybe I need to give it more voltage? It's at 1.28v for a 4.45ghz OC on 4670k..
Hell yes, also note that having more HDDs can slow down window's boot speed (for me 1 SSD = 20, 2 SSDs and 3 HDD = 36 seconds).
Yep. You should plug it into the Intel 6GB/S controller and entirely disable the Marvell controller.
This is totally weird. I'm unfamiliar with Win 8 and general system resource usage. Still on 7 on all of my machines.
The crash sounds like a display driver failing though. Is your videocard overclocked?
Forgot about that, yea it is. Not much though. 950mhz/1400. I'll try defaults
The process tab on the task manager should tell him what's using most of the ram.
I don't know if this has been already posted but here you go anyways:
Link: http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/...Canyon_unlocked_CPUs_to_launch_on_June_2.html
So looks like this has been confirmed by VR-Zone
Link: http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/...Canyon_unlocked_CPUs_to_launch_on_June_2.html
So looks like this has been confirmed by VR-Zone
I'd guess it's the committed that's causing the problem, mine's way off the limit:
What is committed? Any idea how to fix that?
edit: nvm googling =P
Guess I'm waiting for June 2nd. Just hope it's a solid date.
anchorman128
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Windows 8 and 8.1 are riddled with all sorts of ridiculous massive errors. My friend has a computer that will constantly crash in Windows 8.1 while gaming. We tried almost everything we could think of to mitigate software, driver, bios, and hardware issues. Only thing that completely fixed the problem was switching back to windows 7. Aside from all the interface and design issues I have with it, it seems no where near as stable. I plan to ride out windows 7 till windows 9 SP1 if possible.
EDIT: Stupid auto correct *facepalm* I'm home now.
EDIT: Stupid auto correct *facepalm* I'm home now.
Ok, so now i know what committed memory is....but how do I fix it lol
Yea I'm really hoping it's a Windows 8 thing. I would have gone with 7 but everyone in this thread said 8 is great for gaming now T_T
Yea I'm really hoping it's a Windows 8 thing. I would have gone with 7 but everyone in this thread said 8 is great for gaming now T_T
Celcius
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How can people on reddit afford to give away keys so cheap and how do they get so many?
Does Microsoft care?
Haz and myself both still use Win 7. Just sayin'
But please get a screenshot of Resource Monitor - Memory, rather than Task Manager.
Most likely student deals on MSDN accounts or just cheap student keys.
Microsoft doesn't give a shit about consumer usage, and long ago declared they've abandoned enforcing any of it on that side.
adamantypants
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I DEFINITELY had a memory leak when I installed Windows 8.1 on my PC. It really reared it's ugly head after a day or two of uptime. I was sitting at damn near 100% memory usage after a day or two of my pc being on.
Turns out, it was some stupid and basically unnecessary network driver Microsoft included with Windows 8. I had to manually disable it and fix the registry. I don't think it's a widespread issue either so don't be alarmed that nobody else has this issue. I attributed it to my stupid Killer Network adapter incompatibility.
I'm afraid I'm not much use right now looking for the exact fix I found since I'm on mobile and at work. But Google it and I bet you're having the same issue. Your absurd CPU usage for Outlook has something to do with it too.
Nostremitus
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I just noticed you memory issues, it's probably associated with whatever's causing that.
Objectively Bad Opinion
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no issues with windows 8.1 here
anchorman128
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After the awful changes to the UI and functionality of the desktop interface, removal of shadow copy, and countless random issues, I will be kicking and screaming if I have to switch to a just as awful Windows 9. The overall stability of Windows 7 is what keeps me on it, just like XP before it. An OS is supposed to set up an environment to run programs then get out of the way. What does Microsoft not get?
mylasthope
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Heya Gaf,
Finally building a PC for myself and selling my PS4. Whatcha guys think? I'd prefer to buy things at Amazon if possible since I have a lot of credit with them. I don't have a microcenter nearby.
CPU: 4670k ($209.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 Evo ($31.98 @ Amazon). Might have to change this since Amazon doesn't have it in stock. =(
Motherboard + Ram Bundle: GA-Z87N-Wifi + Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866 ($167.78 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 480GB (have already)
Video Card: Asus GTX 770 2GB ($319.99 - $10 rebate @ Amazon)
OR
EVGA GTX 780 3GB ($509.99 - $20 rebate @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W ($79.99 @ Amazon)
OS: Windows 8.1 ($10-$20 at Reddit). Is Windows 8.1 really better than 7?
Monitor: Dell U2412M ($268.99 @ Amazon)
Finally building a PC for myself and selling my PS4. Whatcha guys think? I'd prefer to buy things at Amazon if possible since I have a lot of credit with them. I don't have a microcenter nearby.
CPU: 4670k ($209.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 Evo ($31.98 @ Amazon). Might have to change this since Amazon doesn't have it in stock. =(
Motherboard + Ram Bundle: GA-Z87N-Wifi + Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866 ($167.78 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 480GB (have already)
Video Card: Asus GTX 770 2GB ($319.99 - $10 rebate @ Amazon)
OR
EVGA GTX 780 3GB ($509.99 - $20 rebate @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W ($79.99 @ Amazon)
OS: Windows 8.1 ($10-$20 at Reddit). Is Windows 8.1 really better than 7?
Monitor: Dell U2412M ($268.99 @ Amazon)
I just hate reinstalling and I have too many fringe uses that would cause problems on Win 8/8.1
Solid. I'd suggest the Gigabyte GHz edition 780 if it's right around $500 over the EVGA. Also the VG248QE over the Dell U2412M. Upgrade it with G-Sync down the line. Until then, bask in the glory of true next gen 120/144Hz.
Do you mean best as in, what is the most precise way for you to measure performance without an FCAT machine? If you want to go down that road, I'll give you all the excel equations you need to deduce frame time numbers. If you just want to see how badass your PC is, run 3DMark Firestrike.
*EDIT* Just going to include them anyway in case.
Get fraps. Click the option that allows you to run frame times. From there, you can use frafs Bench Viewer, or dump the data into Excel. Generally you want to keep the benchmark to under a minute, and make sure it's easily repeatable. Do it at least 6 times.
Now you can view those files with frafs, or if you prefer to dump it into excel, average out the data.
The formula for 99th Percentile is
Code:
=PERCENTILE(X:X, .99)How to view frames over a given amount, you use
Code:
=COUNTIF(X:X, ">16.7")You can swap out that 16.7 with any other time you might be interested in.
**EDIT 2***
I almost forgot, it doesn't spit out the frame times, it just stamps at what time each frame was created. So for each line, you need to use an equation that does simple subtraction. Here's a screenshot for an example:
Column C uses that subtraction formula for each line. You can just copy/pasta it and excel works its magic. I think.
Then you copy that whole column and "Paste Special -> Values Only" in order to have it work properly on charts.
lostsupper
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Not everyone, just the most vocal. I ran 8, then 8.1 for three months and really tried to like it. Going back to 7 was amazing.
Haha, sorry. It's $30 cheaper than the next cheapest 240gig SSD
mylasthope
Neo Member
Thank you for the awesome build guide and the help! I will definitely get the VG248QE and check out the Gigabyte GHz edition 780. Is it worth $30 more than the EVGA (costs $10 + no rebate)? I won't need to look into OCing the card, right? I'm pretty new to OCing--and building PCs in general. Also, its says a 600w PSU is recommended. Should I change my PSU too?
One more question: Newegg has the Hyper 212 Plus on sale for $19.99 after rebate. Should I get that instead of the Evo?
This will do. Thanks a lot. Gonna try in a few when I get homeDo you mean best as in, what is the most precise way for you to measure performance without an FCAT machine? If you want to go down that road, I'll give you all the excel equations you need to deduce frame time numbers.
No the latter but this is good to know as well.
If you just want to see how badass your PC is, run 3DMark Firestrike.
*EDIT* Just going to include them anyway in case.
Get fraps. Click the option that allows you to run frame times. From there, you can use frafs Bench Viewer, or dump the data into Excel. Generally you want to keep the benchmark to under a minute, and make sure it's easily repeatable. Do it at least 6 times.
Now you can view those files with frafs, or if you prefer to dump it into excel, average out the data.
The formula for 99th Percentile is
Code:=PERCENTILE(X:X, .99)
How to view frames over a given amount, you use
Code:=COUNTIF(X:X, ">16.7")
You can swap out that 16.7 with any other time you might be interested in.
**EDIT 2***
I almost forgot, it doesn't spit out the frame times, it just stamps at what time each frame was created. So for each line, you need to use an equation that does simple subtraction. Here's a screenshot for an example:
Column C uses that subtraction formula for each line. You can just copy/pasta it and excel works its magic. I think.
Trying to decide if I should sell my 780. Going to be gone until September and with the rumors of the 800 series coming out I'm unsure if it'd be worth it. I don't need the money or anything but I'm not sure if lower prices due to new cards would make it worth it for me to sell now and buy another card in ~5 months. If the 780TI goes down enough I might go for that. I'll be selling on eBay so there's that 10% fee too... high end cards don't go down more than $40-$50 over 5 months and the release of new cards do they? Alternatively, does anyone think that after the 800s release and 5 months that 780TI will be at $500 or less, used? Right now on eBay there are a number that have sold under $600.
I just don't have the experience to confidently make this decision myself. This isn't really about it coming out equal in the end, I just feel like I shouldn't leave something that will may depreciate a decent amount sitting for so long when I will not be able to use it.
I just don't have the experience to confidently make this decision myself. This isn't really about it coming out equal in the end, I just feel like I shouldn't leave something that will may depreciate a decent amount sitting for so long when I will not be able to use it.
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