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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine

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I got a ASUS VS247H monitor (not H-P) and well don't get it.
It sucks.

Backlight bleed is awful.
Neogaf dark theme is light gray instead of black for me.

And this is after putting brightness all the way down to 0...
 

redlegs87

Member
Ok last big purchase was the CPU next purchase will probably be the PSU and maybe the HDD. Would the PSU I have selected be enough to OC comfortably?



PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $192.14)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (Purchased For $29.99)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cougar Solution (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $49.99)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $860.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-07 08:56 EST-0500)
 
User reviews? None are great for Z87 on Newegg. It's a better board than the G45, and if you're doing to overclock you want the better VRMs and VRM cooling it offers

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CM 690 II I'd not get either. Better choice would be something like the Fractal R4 or the NZXT H230.

Thanks for the info on the motherboard, that makes sense. I'm going to switch the msi to a UD4H.

One last question for you haha. Why would you not get that case? I'm looking to get a little bigger case than my last because my last was a little snug.
 

kennah

Member
Thanks for the info on the motherboard, that makes sense. I'm going to switch the msi to a UD4H.

One last question for you haha. Why would you not get that case? I'm looking to get a little bigger case than my last because my last was a little snug.
What was your last case? Even mid towers are much easier to work in now. We're mid case renaissance right now. Stuff is getting a lot better designed.
 

kharma45

Member
Ok last big purchase was the CPU next purchase will probably be the PSU and maybe the HDD. Would the PSU I have selected be enough to OC comfortably?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $192.14)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (Purchased For $29.99)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cougar Solution (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $49.99)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $860.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-07 08:56 EST-0500)

It will be fine.

Thanks for the info on the motherboard, that makes sense. I'm going to switch the msi to a UD4H.

One last question for you haha. Why would you not get that case? I'm looking to get a little bigger case than my last because my last was a little snug.

What was your last case? Even mid towers are much easier to work in now. We're mid case renaissance right now. Stuff is getting a lot better designed.

Yeah mid towers (which the CM 690 II is) are big enough it's just a case that is a bit long in the tooth now and an R4 is a better buy at the same kind of money.
 

Lexxism

Member
After a lot of thinking, I finally arrive with these specs.

PCPartPicker part list
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core ($254 @CanadaComputers)
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149 @NCIX)
RAM: Patriot Memory Viper 3 Series DDR3 16GB(4x 4GB) 1600MHz ($83 @AmazonCA)
SSD: Samsung Evo 840 120GB ($105 @NCIX)
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.79 @DirectCanada)
Case: Corsair 200R ($57.27 @DirectCanada)
PSU: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX ($79.99 @NeweegCA)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO ($31.06 @DirectCanada)
GPU: Not now. (Planning to get GTX 770 or higher this year)

Total: 824.11 CAD

*I went to UD3H since it's basically the same price with D3H now.

**I'm thinking of changing of my RAM to either of these two: Corsair Vengeance Pro Blue 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz or Patriot Viper 3 8GB 2X4GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 since the wait for my 16GB RAM is becoming unbearable.

**I want my PSU to blend with my case. That's why I chose Corsair 600M or should I just stay with Antec Basiq Plus 550W?

Any impression?
 
I finally built it! Though, stupidly, I damaged my monitor in the progress (a small pinprick of a hole in the screen... that's really distracting), but anyway, I did it!

Thanks for all your advice and support guys.

Only issue I'm having now is that HDMI out doesn't seem to work on graphics card, but I think I need to get the BIOS update from the manufacturers website!
 

kharma45

Member
It was this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...Computer+Cases+-+ATX+Form)-_-Antec-_-11129042

If I want to do pretty much anything I have to take out the graphics card, it's annoying.

Take a look at this post on case sizes

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=99860450&postcount=3806

After a lot of thinking, I finally arrive with these specs.

PCPartPicker part list
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core ($254 @CanadaComputers)
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149 @NCIX)
RAM: Patriot Memory Viper 3 Series DDR3 16GB(4x 4GB) 1600MHz ($83 @AmazonCA)
SSD: Samsung Evo 840 120GB ($105 @NCIX)
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.79 @DirectCanada)
Case: Corsair 200R ($57.27 @DirectCanada)
PSU: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX ($79.99 @NeweegCA)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO ($31.06 @DirectCanada)
GPU: Not now. (Planning to get GTX 770 or higher this year)

Total: 824.11 CAD

*I went to UD3H since it's basically the same price with D3H now.

**I'm thinking of changing of my RAM to either of these two: Corsair Vengeance Pro Blue 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz or Patriot Viper 3 8GB 2X4GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 since the wait for my 16GB RAM is becoming unbearable.

**I want my PSU to blend with my case. That's why I chose Corsair 600M or should I just stay with Antec Basiq Plus 550W?

Any impression?

The Antec is the better PSU. The Corsair has a high failure rate. The Antec isn't pretty but it's reliable. I'd save on the RAM too.

Save money on the SSD too, Crucial is a solid one.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($254.00 @ Canada Computers)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($31.06 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($93.25 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.79 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.27 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80+ Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.80 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $802.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-07 10:13 EST-0500)

Saves you around $20. Also question your need for the DVD drive. What will you need it for?
 
Do MSI GPU's have a common problem of running very hot? I read on Tom's Hardware that MSI 280X was especially bad and throttles at ~90 degree temperature
 

onken

Member
If several games are having problems, it probably means drivers are to blame. Make one change at a time, so you can keep track of things in case you introduce a new problem.
Make certain you have the latest drivers from Gigabyte for your motherboard, including network and audio.
If this doesn't help, try using the latest WHQL drivers from nvidia for the GPU.
If you get to this point and there's still no joy, I would check the BIOS firmware version you are using on the motherboard and see if there are any more recent releases. The 780Ti is a new card and some motherboards need to be updated to support it properly.

Thanks for the advice. I found there was a R8 bios update available (I was on R7) so I installed it. It wrecked my Windows install (would just blue-screen on boot) but I after I did a Win 8 refresh it's all working beautifully - not a crash since. So happy :)
 

Lexxism

Member
The Antec is the better PSU. The Corsair has a high failure rate. The Antec isn't pretty but it's reliable. I'd save on the RAM too.

Save money on the SSD too, Crucial is a solid one.

Saves you around $20. Also question your need for the DVD drive. What will you need it for?

1. Do A-Data have a Blue RAM or it's just black?

2. So it's almost identical with Samsung EVO but M500 is little bit cheaper compare to it? My friend have it and kept hearing good things on it. Probably that's why I kept insisting on it.

3. I need it to install the OS to my PC.

4. @Monitor: Should I go with IPS monitor or to a 1-2 response time monitor?
 

kiyomi

Member
Hey GAF, I'm back with my first time build questions. Here's what I'm going to get so far;

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£171.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£47.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£46.24 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) (£71.53 @ Ebuyer)
Monitor: LG 22EA53VQ 60Hz 21.5" Monitor (£104.94 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £546.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-07 15:48 GMT+0000)

Pretty much the last core component I'm not decided on is the motherboard. I also need to decide about the case and the monitor, but that's not important here right now.

I went with the 4670K with a look to overclocking down the line, so I want to get a Z87 mobo. However, I'm not really sure what I should be looking for in a decent motherboard. I'm currently looking at the following;

MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate - £64.98
ASRock Z87 Pro3 - £69.44
Gigabyte GA-Z87-DS3H - £72.99
MSI Z87-G43 - £76.30
Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 £77.66

I don't think I can go beyond the £80 mark, honestly, so I'm looking at some pretty low end mobos for the 4670K. Would any of these be okay? Is the GA-HD3 a £13 better motherboard than the MSI G41?

Also, I know I don't have a GPU, SSD and HSF in my build, those will be added in later (I might decide to get the SSD from the beginning, I'm not sure how hard it is to transfer Windows from the HDD to the SSD after the fact.).

Thanks.
 
Yeah mid towers (which the CM 690 II is) are big enough it's just a case that is a bit long in the tooth now and an R4 is a better buy at the same kind of money.

Is this the R4 to get? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352020

I saw there is one with a window but it looked like that was the only difference (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352021)? I don't care about the case having a window so if that is the only difference I think I will go with the first one.
 

kharma45

Member
Is this the R4 to get? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352020

I saw there is one with a window but it looked like that was the only difference (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352021)? I don't care about the case having a window so if that is the only difference I think I will go with the first one.

Windowed one is $10 cheaper so I'd lean to it.

1. Do A-Data have a Blue RAM or it's just black?

2. So it's almost identical with Samsung EVO but M500 is little bit cheaper compare to it? My friend have it and kept hearing good things on it. Probably that's why I kept insisting on it.

3. I need it to install the OS to my PC.

4. @Monitor: Should I go with IPS monitor or to a 1-2 response time monitor?

1. No idea. It was just the cheapest stuff. Go for the Patriot stuff if colour matters.

2. Both are good and fast enough in day to day use. Evo is quicker but I doubt you'd notice.

3. Install through USB.

4. Either go IPS at the lower end or 120/144Hz at the higher end.
 

Mozendo

Member
Do MSI GPU's have a common problem of running very hot? I read on Tom's Hardware that MSI 280X was especially bad and throttles at ~90 degree temperature

I'm not an expert buy my 760 is quiet and cool, since they use MSI's TwinFrozr IV design there should be nothing wrong with it...I think

Maybe all higher end AMD GPUs are supposed to run that hot? I remember people saying that the R9 290(X ?) is designed to run at high temperatures, but not sure about the 280X.
 

kharma45

Member
Hey GAF, I'm back with my first time build questions. Here's what I'm going to get so far;

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£171.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£47.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£46.24 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) (£71.53 @ Ebuyer)
Monitor: LG 22EA53VQ 60Hz 21.5" Monitor (£104.94 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £546.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-07 15:48 GMT+0000)

Pretty much the last core component I'm not decided on is the motherboard. I also need to decide about the case and the monitor, but that's not important here right now.

I went with the 4670K with a look to overclocking down the line, so I want to get a Z87 mobo. However, I'm not really sure what I should be looking for in a decent motherboard. I'm currently looking at the following;

MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate - £64.98
ASRock Z87 Pro3 - £69.44
Gigabyte GA-Z87-DS3H - £72.99
MSI Z87-G43 - £76.30
Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 £77.66

I don't think I can go beyond the £80 mark, honestly, so I'm looking at some pretty low end mobos for the 4670K. Would any of these be okay? Is the GA-HD3 a £13 better motherboard than the MSI G41?

Also, I know I don't have a GPU, SSD and HSF in my build, those will be added in later (I might decide to get the SSD from the beginning, I'm not sure how hard it is to transfer Windows from the HDD to the SSD after the fact.).

Thanks.

All looks good bar that PSU. CX models aren't good. Change to this EVGA unit and save a tenner http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DZ6R9GE/

None of those boards are great. Gigabyte's D3H at £100 is a good board and the ASUS Z87A (with BF4 included) isn't bad either. It's not quite as good as the Gigabyte but with it you could sell BF4 and hopefully make back some money on it to get it near the £80 mark.

You could also buy a W8.1 code on Reddit for £20 or so. You could also use Flubit on the Amazon stuff like the CPU to save cash https://flubit.com/
 

riflen

Member
Thanks for the advice. I found there was a R8 bios update available (I was on R7) so I installed it. It wrecked my Windows install (would just blue-screen on boot) but I after I did a Win 8 refresh it's all working beautifully - not a crash since. So happy :)

Glad to be of some help. Let's hope the problem's solved. Enjoy your 780 Ti.
 

Aesthet1c

Member
Got my PC ordered! Thanks GAF for the recommendations!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.29 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($154.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($252.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1031.21
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-07 12:08 EST-0500)

I ended up going with a different power supply, I had the Corsair CX600M picked out, but due to the negative feedback here, I swapped it for this Rosewill one. I went Rosewill because I got it for a really good deal ($49.99 after rebate), and it's modular and seems to have solid reviews from customers and critics.

Everything should be here Tuesday. I'll post pics of the completed build.
 

kharma45

Member
Got my PC ordered! Thanks GAF for the recommendations!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.29 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($154.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($252.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1031.21
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-07 12:08 EST-0500)

I ended up going with a different power supply, I had the Corsair CX600M picked out, but due to the negative feedback here, I swapped it for this Rosewill one. I went Rosewill because I got it for a really good deal ($49.99 after rebate), and it's modular and seems to have solid reviews from customers and critics.

Everything should be here Tuesday. I'll post pics of the completed build.

You've the Hive listed for your PSU. Was it this Capstone you went for? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Just curious. Both are good.
 

kharma45

Member
I ended up going with the Hive. There seemed to be a new deal that started up today that PCPartPicker doesn't reflect. There was a $20 promo code, and then another $10 MIR.

Ah so there is, just clicked through to Newegg. It's a good solid unit that, you'd not have went wrong with it or the Capstone for $50.
 

Aesthet1c

Member
Ah so there is, just clicked through to Newegg. It's a good solid unit that, you'd not have went wrong with it or the Capstone for $50.

Yeah I hope so, now I'm started to read that the cables are a little short. Hopefully I didn't make the wrong decision lol.
 

Pachimari

Member
USB wifi works fine for me. If you're willing to spend more money, dedicated repeater may give better performance and flexibility but I think that's an overkill.

For gaming on ultra with good frame rate, try to go for 780 instead of 770. The difference is larger than you'd think. To cut down on the price for the beefier gpu, I'd go for a 120gb ssd and install windows on the hdd. Performance critical folders and applications and frequently played games on the ssd. Also a quality air cooler would be cheaper and perform better or same compared to corsair h60.

As for the motherboard, if you have the time, take a look at the back of the motherboard and decide if you need all the ports and pcie slots. If not, it'd be cheaper to go with smaller matx boards but stay with quality brands such as asus, gigabyte and asrok. I find matx is enough if you don't plan going SLI in the future. Even if you decide to go SLI, matx is big enough if you don't install tv and sound cards. Plus smaller motherboard == cleaner interior.

Also even if you need to spend a little more money, get a USB optical drive. It can be used for laptops as well and free up the clutter in your case.

Okay, so I'm just some minutes away from ordering some more parts. I guess I will look into getting the GTX 780 and cut down on the SSD. But I have already decided for the motherboard and much else.

What else should I look at for the heatsink? I already changed it once. :/

For remote controlling plex, two options

1) iPad/tablets. install plex and you can browse your collection and start playback on any PC running the plex client - with the added bonus that you can watch on the tablet too

2) pulse eight HDMI CEC adapter. Connects to your TV and PC and lets you use your TVs remote, and the inputs are converted and sent over USB to your PC where they can control the plex HT client.
1) For some reason, this haven't worked for me in a while.

2) Thanks, I'll look into this. :)
 

Vlodril

Member
ok i picked up some parts for the cheap pc i want to build. unfortunately although i live in spain, i do not speak spanish yet.

Here is a picture of the components if anyone can tell me if there are any conflict problems i would appreciate it.

 
So, I want an internal RAID for editing video footage up to 1920x1080. Is there a difference between these two drives besides the 7200RPM vs IntelliPower (variable between 5400-7200, I guess?);

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236351

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236344

Would either perform pretty much the same for RAID 0 video editing? I don't understand the price difference. The more expensive drive has 2 more years of warranty, is that the differentiating factor?
 

Pachimari

Member
Within hours, I'm gonna order 4 parts: RAM, Power Supply, Optical Drive and Heatsink.

I'm still unsure, if I should buy the 8GB on a single one or 2x4?
 

kiyomi

Member
All looks good bar that PSU. CX models aren't good. Change to this EVGA unit and save a tenner http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DZ6R9GE/

None of those boards are great. Gigabyte's D3H at £100 is a good board and the ASUS Z87A (with BF4 included) isn't bad either. It's not quite as good as the Gigabyte but with it you could sell BF4 and hopefully make back some money on it to get it near the £80 mark.

You could also buy a W8.1 code on Reddit for £20 or so. You could also use Flubit on the Amazon stuff like the CPU to save cash https://flubit.com/

Thanks for the thoughts. I'd probably just keep the BF4 copy, lol.

I don't feel too comfortable getting a key from Reddit, but maybe. Does that method of downloading the ISO and moving it onto a USB drive work for completely fresh installs? When I looked at downloading the Windows 8.1 ISO, it downloads a WindowsSetupBox.exe. I dunno if that's the right thing.

Also I'm not confident in that process either.. I don't find the guide in the OP very clear, honestly. :(

Thanks for the Flubit tip.

Edit : I see the PSU you recommended isn't Semi-Modular. I really wanted to get decent cable management. Is the CX model really that bad?

Edit 2 : I'm not seeing the Z87A with BF4 anywhere?
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
Within hours, I'm gonna order 4 parts: RAM, Power Supply, Optical Drive and Heatsink.

I'm still unsure, if I should buy the 8GB on a single one or 2x4?


if you're only going to have 8gb for the forseeable future, having 2 4gb sticks is better because of the dual channel speed boost (if your motherboard has it)

but the 4gb sticks will be useless (for your computer) if you end up getting 32gb since you'll need 8gb sticks in each of the DIMMs.
 

Geneijin

Member
You might as well re-use your Corsair CX PSU too, and just buy another 4GB of RAM. 8GB is plenty for that set up but if you want 12GB go ahead, it's just a bit overkill. Unless that is you want to keep those bits for a second PC as you've suggested. As that case is still good to go too.

Since emulation is important I recommend getting a 4670K and a Z87 motherboard so you can overclock. The bits you've chosen cannot do that and emulation benefits greatly as it's a CPU bound task.

This is also a better PSU for less than the Antec http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Picking your parts will all depend on what you're going to do with what you have. Either carry most over or create a second PC from it.
I'm leaning towards having a 2nd PC. I just don't want it having stuff like my soundcard.

As for OC, I'll reconsider it but I'm just scared about that stuff honestly. I could always buy the parts and leave it to a future endeavor, but I'm not sure if I want to part the extra $100.

Thanks.
 

Smokey

Member
Anybody use a mechanical keyboard with cherry red keys? I have the g710+ keyboard with Browns and a Razer widow with Blues. I've come to the conclusion that I prefer the Blues, but they are a bit loud.

Curious how the Reds fare in comparison.
 

mkenyon

Banned
Anybody use a mechanical keyboard with cherry red keys? I have the g710+ keyboard with Browns and a Razer widow with Blues. I've come to the conclusion that I prefer the Blues, but they are a bit loud.

Curious how the Reds fare in comparison.
Reds are totally linear with no tactile feedback. Very soft and easy, it's my switch of choice.

You might like the MX Clear/Whites.
 
It will be fine.





Yeah mid towers (which the CM 690 II is) are big enough it's just a case that is a bit long in the tooth now and an R4 is a better buy at the same kind of money.

Seems i made it to the big leagues where my case is no longer a viable option :(

Seriously though the R4 would 100% be my next case if i'm gonna build a new PC.

Also +1 to the Antec since that thing is a fucking champ but i still get urges to just buy another PSU so it can match the case..
 

kharma45

Member
Thanks for the thoughts. I'd probably just keep the BF4 copy, lol.

I don't feel too comfortable getting a key from Reddit, but maybe. Does that method of downloading the ISO and moving it onto a USB drive work for completely fresh installs? When I looked at downloading the Windows 8.1 ISO, it downloads a WindowsSetupBox.exe. I dunno if that's the right thing.

Also I'm not confident in that process either.. I don't find the guide in the OP very clear, honestly. :(

Thanks for the Flubit tip.

Edit : I see the PSU you recommended isn't Semi-Modular. I really wanted to get decent cable management. Is the CX model really that bad?

Edit 2 : I'm not seeing the Z87A with BF4 anywhere?

yes it works for fresh installs. It's how I've been putting Windows on PCs for a while now. So much faster.

The CXs are just mediocre units. Lots of DOA and they're just meh. Unfortunately the next cheapest ~500w I can find that is good and modular is £60.

Motherboard wise this is it http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-z...4_1391789751_10906847b7ff7096bc0886302ce2702d

I'm leaning towards having a 2nd PC. I just don't want it having stuff like my soundcard.

As for OC, I'll reconsider it but I'm just scared about that stuff honestly. I could always buy the parts and leave it to a future endeavor, but I'm not sure if I want to part the extra $100.

Thanks.

That's fine. Makes it easier to pick parts to recommend to you.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.97 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi Z87W ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($98.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($74.29 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $681.21
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-07 15:43 EST-0500)

Changing to an AMD R7 260X would save you $10 and have you at the same price point as your original build. Overclocking is easy, it's nothing to be scared of. 20-25% performance boost for changing two values.

Case wise that NZXT up above is a good option too for something a bit quieter but you'll lose the window. I just kept the Shinobi as you'd originally picked it.

Seems i made it to the big leagues where my case is no longer a viable option :(

Seriously though the R4 would 100% be my next case if i'm gonna build a new PC.

Also +1 to the Antec since that thing is a fucking champ but i still get urges to just buy another PSU so it can match the case..

Don't get me wrong, it's still a good case the CM 690 II.
 

Coreda

Member
Sometime either later today or tomorrow I'll be finally building my new system, yay!

Question about formatting: based on this GAF post it turned me onto the new GBT partitions. Is the only way to create such partitions using MS' Diskpart.efi command-line tool?
 

thespot84

Member
Sometime either later today or tomorrow I'll be finally building my new system, yay!

Question about formatting: based on this GAF post it turned me onto the new GBT partitions. Is the only way to create such partitions using MS' Diskpart.efi command-line tool?

are you installing windows 8.1? the USB install automatically greated a GBT partition for me
 

Coreda

Member
are you installing windows 8.1? the USB install automatically greated a GBT partition for me

I'll be installing from the disc, as I have no spare USB sticks atm. Will it still work?

Was hoping there was a GUI partitioning app with GBT support when I format my secondary HDD. Edit: GParted has GBT support, nice.
 
Budget: $2200, USA

Main Use: Video editing in Sony Vegas Pro 12 making documentaries, moderately complex 2D/simple 3D graphics in Adobe After Effects CS6, and image editing in Photoshop CS6. Video games will not be played on this machine.

Monitor Resolution: Two 1920x1080 monitors.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: CUDA-acceleration in After Effects, and OpenGL or CUDA acceleration in Vegas.
When will you build?: About a week from now. Next weekend.
Will you be overclocking?: Yes, probably to somewhere between 4.2GHz and 4.5GHz.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2P2og

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($549.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.24 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($243.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($283.94 @ Amazon)
OS /Programs: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Amazon)
RAID 0: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg)
RAID 0: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg)
RAID 0: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 4GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2131.08

Will carry over PCI-e video capture card and Blu-Ray Drive from old computer.
Thinking of replacing case fans with 2 or 4 Noctua NF-P14 FLX.
 

thespot84

Member
Budget: $2200, USA

Main Use: Video editing in Sony Vegas Pro 12 making documentaries, moderately complex 2D/simple 3D graphics in Adobe After Effects CS6, and image editing in Photoshop CS6. Video games will not be played on this machine.

Monitor Resolution: Two 1920x1080 monitors.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: CUDA-acceleration in After Effects, and OpenGL or CUDA acceleration in Vegas.
When will you build?: About a week from now. Next weekend.
Will you be overclocking?: Yes, probably to somewhere between 4.2GHz and 4.5GHz.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2P2og

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($549.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.24 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($243.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($283.94 @ Amazon)
OS /Programs: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Amazon)
RAID 0: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg)
RAID 0: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg)
RAID 0: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 4GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2131.08

Will carry over PCI-e video capture card and Blu-Ray Drive from old computer.
Thinking of replacing case fans with 2 or 4 Noctua NF-P14 FLX.

If you're doing CUDA work would a better card/higher clock be of benefit?
 

Pachimari

Member
Wow, now I just ordered 3 more parts and my list looks like this:

Have bought:

Case - [BOUGHT]
Fractal R4 (796 DKK = $144)

Storage - [BOUGHT]
WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB (400 DKK = $73)

Power Supply - [BOUGHT]
Sea Sonic G Series 550 (714 DKK = $129)

Optical Drive - [BOUGHT]
SATA DVD Burner (148 DKK = $27)

Heatsink - [BOUGHT]
Corsair H60 (488 DKK = $90)


-------------------------
NEXT UP:

CPU
i5 4670K 4C/4T (1.630 DKK = $296)

Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-UD3H (1.146 DKK = $208)

RAM
(8GB) (637 DKK = $117)

Graphics
GTX 770 4GB (2.925 DKK = $531)

SSD
Samsung 840 EVO 250GB (1.140 DKK = $207)

This is the first time, I have come this far to building my own computer. It's all super exciting. I'm gonna get the CPU and motherboard when I have sold off my Mac Mini (2010).
 
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