"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!

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Fair enough. The H110 is a waste of money, and the PSU is sufficient.

Which one would you prefer instead?
I thought that my cpu could use all the cooling it can get and since my case supports 2x 280mm fans why not opt for the H110?
It seems to do well in reviews, other option was the H105.
 
Hey guys I'm about to upgrade for first time in ten years.just looking to game at 1080/60 so would Intel i7 16 GB ram and gtx 780 3gb be fine budget around £1500 thanks
 
So could anyone recommend a decent type/brand of RAM please? Probably looking for 16GB, probably wouldn't go for the very top of the range most expensive stuff.
 
Hey guys I'm about to upgrade for first time in ten years.just looking to game at 1080/60 so would Intel i7 16 GB ram and gtx 780 3gb be fine budget around £1500 thanks

You can cut down and get to play games at 1080p/60 fps. Get a Gigabyte R9 290, 4th gen i7 and 8 Gb Corsair Vengeance ram. 8 Gb will be more than enough for you to game just fine on the resolution you mentioned. I have an i3, an r9 270x and 4 gb of ram, and I can play at full HD without issues at high to ultra settings for many games. So, you will be far more set than I am right now.
 
Hey guys I'm about to upgrade for first time in ten years.just looking to game at 1080/60 so would Intel i7 16 GB ram and gtx 780 3gb be fine budget around £1500 thanks
Of course they would be fine, i've got an i7 4770k oc and r9 290 tri-x oc in my rig, i max out almost everything on 1080p/60fps, i would suggest a r9 290 indeed, cause it has slightly better performance than the gtx 780 in some games, it also has 4gb of ram and is considerably cheaper, but that said gtx 780 is a great card too for 1080p.
And of course 16gb of ram are too much, 8gb would be more than enough, i would suggest corsair vengeance 1600mhz
 
Are there any real reviews of the Rog Swift yet? The two I found with google seemed very sponsored and incredibly short with no mentions of color accuracy and the like.

And when might Newegg get them in stock? Would rather not pay tax so it'd have to be through them. Given the apparently limited amount of stock are they likely to stay steady in price unlike other monitors? In a few weeks I'm going to be going on a work trip for about 6 weeks, so would it be worth waiting on it?
 
So could anyone recommend a decent type/brand of RAM please? Probably looking for 16GB, probably wouldn't go for the very top of the range most expensive stuff.
Corsair Vengeance or Crucial Ballistix Sport. There's not much difference in price between them going by Amazon.
 
Are there any real reviews of the Rog Swift yet? The two I found with google seemed very sponsored and incredibly short with no mentions of color accuracy and the like.

And when might Newegg get them in stock? Would rather not pay tax so it'd have to be through them. Given the apparently limited amount of stock are they likely to stay steady in price unlike other monitors? In a few weeks I'm going to be going on a work trip for about 6 weeks, so would it be worth waiting on it?

There are no real reviews yet. If you're in North America, stock probably wont arrive until August according to ASUS.
The UK retailer I've put in a pre-order with has this on their site:
ETA Late July '14 - Initial stock will be very limited. Second shipment due middle to late August. Pre orders will be fulfilled on a first come first served basis. We recommend you put your order in now, as stock will continue to be in constraint into September.
 
Which one would you prefer instead?
I thought that my cpu could use all the cooling it can get and since my case supports 2x 280mm fans why not opt for the H110?
It seems to do well in reviews, other option was the H105.

Honestly you should drop the AIO watercooler totally and get some high end air cooler like Phanteks or Noctua D-15.

One thing that rarely get's mentioned is that those watercoolers will lose liquid over time and they are designed so it's impossible to add it.

So cooling efficiency will get lower over time increasing tempratures and noise of pump.
 
Honestly you should drop the AIO watercooler totally and get some high end air cooler like Phanteks or Noctua D-15.

One thing that rarely get's mentioned is that those watercoolers will lose liquid over time and they are designed so it's impossible to add it.

So cooling efficiency will get lower over time increasing tempratures and noise of pump.

? It's a closed system, where would the liquid go?
 
Hey guys I'm about to upgrade for first time in ten years.just looking to game at 1080/60 so would Intel i7 16 GB ram and gtx 780 3gb be fine budget around £1500 thanks
Fill out the OP. Yes for those requirements easily.
So could anyone recommend a decent type/brand of RAM please? Probably looking for 16GB, probably wouldn't go for the very top of the range most expensive stuff.
Literally anything low profile and 1600Mhz / 1.5V that doesn't seem to have a high failure rate.
Pick a color or brand you like.
 
Water doesn't just magically disappear. It can't seep through the tubes. It can't evaporate through something. Sealed units don't work like that. Either there is a leak or there isn't.
Yep. If this were true then the same problem would occur on heat pipe heatsinks because those transfer heat through evaporation...
 
I'm getting that same error when playing WOW with a EVGA 780 Ti Classified. I've tried using driver sweeper and deleting the WOW WTF folder. I've even rolled back drivers before doing a clean install. I need to test it in more games. WOW flickers and the driver crashes and I get "Wow-64 has been blocked etc." You using Windows 8.1? I wonder if it's a 8.1 issue.

Yeah w8.1

I've been on it for awhile. Didn't have the issue on my other machine. No clue what else to do outside of reinstall of Windows. Tried all of the Google recommendations.

Have you tried disabling PCI-E link state power management?

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Ah that's one I forgot to do. I went there as a recommendation but got caught up in something and forgot to change it. Not getting my hopes up though.

How would that possibly help?
 
If I don't plan on overclocking, what 780 would be the best one here? Or is it worth it just to switch to a 780 Ti?

There is definatly no reason not to overclock the 780, its so easy and totally safe. I gained 11fps in Unigene Valley bench (77fps avg - quicker than GTX Titan) by pushing clocks to 1250Mhz Core 3500Mhz Memory @ 1.21v. My daily OC is 1100Mhz Core 3200Mhz Memory at stock voltage (1.16v). My GPU is a reference Gigabyte GTX 780 901Mhz Core 3000Mhz Memory.

I dont even have it on a profile becuase i lock my fps to 60fps with Msi Afterburner so my GPU only ever clocks up to the overclock when its really needed. Otherwise it sits at a lower frequency automatically.

I think the Gigabyte Windforce is the coolest and quietest running card so id go for that.
 
Can someone else with a Z97 + 4790k setup tell me what their mobo is using as the vcore at stock settings? I'm wondering if my UD5H using a vcore of 1.23 is kind of high for stock. The vcore also doesn't drop at idle clocks but I'm not sure if that's supposed to happen or not. I'm on the latest BIOS and haven't made any CPU clocking changes.
 
Can someone else with a Z97 + 4790k setup tell me what their mobo is using as the vcore at stock settings? I'm wondering if my UD5H using a vcore of 1.23 is kind of high for stock. The vcore also doesn't drop at idle clocks but I'm not sure if that's supposed to happen or not. I'm on the latest BIOS and haven't made any CPU clocking changes.

Thats definitely high. I have mine at 4.4GHz (not much of an OC, I know haha) at 1.18 and I think I can definitely get it lower.

If its not dropping when its idle, sounds like a BIOS setting might be wrong.
 
Thats definitely high. I have mine at 4.4GHz (not much of an OC, I know haha) at 1.18 and I think I can definitely get it lower.

If its not dropping when its idle, sounds like a BIOS setting might be wrong.

I'll double check the voltage when I get home as I may be remembering it wrong. However, I certainly do remember the voltage not changing at idle (unless I'm looking at the wrong value in HWinfo).

Otherwise the system is working fine and under an AIDA64 stress test my temps go to about 75c which doesn't seem bad.
 
Yeah w8.1

I've been on it for awhile. Didn't have the issue on my other machine. No clue what else to do outside of reinstall of Windows. Tried all of the Google recommendations.




Ah that's one I forgot to do. I went there as a recommendation but got caught up in something and forgot to change it. Not getting my hopes up though.

How would that possibly help?

Well, my guess is this is a software problem. That setting is used to save power (not something we're interested in doing). You don't want Windows cutting power to the PCI-E slots because it thinks the device is idle.

Apparently PCI-E devices send empty messages when idle to keep the bus active. This power saving setting can be used to set the port into a low power state to save electricity when these idle messages are received. It's designed for portable computers and of no use in this scenario. Setting it to OFF just makes sure the power saving feature is disabled.
 
ok, at least it'll work, would rather put in 2x8GB than 4x4GB at first.
anyway here's my planned setup (with 32GB ram):


Kingston Beast series XMP KHX24C11T3K4/32X 32GB
Corsair RM Series 850Watt
Corsair Hydro Series H110
Samsung MZ-7TE500BW Serie 840 EVO 500GB
Corsair CC-9011035-WW Obsidian Serie 750D
Asus X79-DELUXE Mainboard
Intel Core i7-4930K

Pending gpu, most likely 780TI
PSU is sufficient for this rig?

e: might switch mobo to asus rampage iv, it's more expensive but since my case is open window and that mobo looks better (all black) instead of the gold x79 deluxe, but that's just my personal style preference
both seem to support my cpu out of the box so that's good as I've never built a pc myself let alone upgraded the bios
Do you want some honest advice, or do you just want a bunch of really expensive (and awesome, I partake in overkill myself and approve of it) parts?
This depends on his budget. x99 is not really a successor to x79 as they use totally different sockets, are targeted at different market segments and will be sold side by side. x99 is for the new HEDT socket 2011-4 Haswell-E CPUs.
You'll have to spend around $1000 just to get started with CPU, motherboard and RAM.
That's not true at all. Haswell-E is replacing Ivy-E. That's like saying Z87/97 didn't replace Z77 because it's socket 1150 instead of 1155. It is the replacement/successor.
 
There is definatly no reason not to overclock the 780, its so easy and totally safe. I gained 11fps in Unigene Valley bench (77fps avg - quicker than GTX Titan) by pushing clocks to 1250Mhz Core 3500Mhz Memory @ 1.21v. My daily OC is 1100Mhz Core 3200Mhz Memory at stock voltage (1.16v). My GPU is a reference Gigabyte GTX 780 901Mhz Core 3000Mhz Memory.

I dont even have it on a profile becuase i lock my fps to 60fps with Msi Afterburner so my GPU only ever clocks up to the overclock when its really needed. Otherwise it sits at a lower frequency automatically.

I think the Gigabyte Windforce is the coolest and quietest running card so id go for that.

I'll have to do some research on overclocking. I've always avoided it for some reason.
 
PC has been randomly restarting with no warning. I was watching netflix and suddenly it started restarting multiple times in a row. I was playing Far Cry 3 before that for an hour and no issues. What can it be? PSU?

What motherboard and OS are you running? I had some random restart issues when I put together a new build for a friend. Turning off fast boot/startup on the motherboard and OS seemed to have fixed it.
 
Hey so recently I've noticed that my build has been performing a little different than usual. The main place I notice it is in MMO loading screens. Loading Guild Wars 2 zones takes wayyyy longer than it should. Same thing with WoW. My friend has a crappy laptop and it loaded faster than me.

My Specs

Is there something I can use to benchmark my system and see if something is wrong? I mean I usually have a few programs running at the same time but still.
 
Quick question that wasn't answered on the last page: how are the sound levels on te Cooler Master Jetflo fans? Anything to worry about in a Define R4?
 
Could do best of both worlds with that budget still.

Get a BenQ XL2411Z (120/144Hz strobing goodness), and then something like the Nixeus Vue 27" 1440p which is a PLS (IPS style). $700 for both.
Thanks all for the help. I ended up holding off on any monitor purchase until there was a single monitor that had exactly the features I want. Thanks to your suggetions I ended up switching out the samsung SSD for the Crucial MX100 since it was ~$50 cheaper and there didn't appear to be a huge difference between the two drives.

I freely admit there was a lot of fat in that build but I'm okay with that. :) Thanks again.
 
Hey so recently I've noticed that my build has been performing a little different than usual. The main place I notice it is in MMO loading screens. Loading Guild Wars 2 zones takes wayyyy longer than it should. Same thing with WoW. My friend has a crappy laptop and it loaded faster than me.

My Specs

Is there something I can use to benchmark my system and see if something is wrong? I mean I usually have a few programs running at the same time but still.
I don't know, did you try defragmenting your HDD?
 
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