My 5820 does 4 Ghz without any voltage changes, but not 4.2 Ghz. I haven't done any further investigation of what happens with more voltage, 6 Haswell cores with 4 Ghz each is enough for me right now. With my new, smaller case I would probably run into temperature limitations pretty soon anyway (at 4 Ghz and default voltage I go up to a maximum of ~80°C with a heavy 6-core AVX2 load, ~75°C in prime).
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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!
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Kamakazie!
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Are there any good mITX Z97 mobo's out there?
I've been planning to get the Asus z97-Plus mATX mobo in the OP, but since there are no mATX cases I am craving, I was wondering if there are any decent mITX board options around?
It would be for a 4790k build.
I've been planning to get the Asus z97-Plus mATX mobo in the OP, but since there are no mATX cases I am craving, I was wondering if there are any decent mITX board options around?
It would be for a 4790k build.
Felix Lighter
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What voltage are you seeing at 4Ghz out of curiosity?
Asrock Gigabyte Asus all have fine Z97 itx boards.
Kamakazie!
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Ok thanks.
The Asus m97 plus itx didn't seem to have great feedback but I'll take another look at that and the others.
Where are you looking at this feedback? Boards don't really have a reputation. Important things depend on yourself, such as IO ports, expansion, Fan headers, Power Phases. Reliability is sound from all 3.
Bios is updated?
Yes. Also tried the original BIOS by flipping the switch. Neither works.
I assume you've tried a reset CMOS, but also try a Load Optimised Settings in the BIOS. Make sure the RAM and the Ram voltage is set correctly afterwards.
I'm not even getting to the point where I can do that. It's literally the graphics card begins to power on for half a second, the debug code thing flashes on (not actual numbers), and then everything goes dark and only the debug LED is on.
Calibrated Chaos
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I think my 7800 is crapping out. 3 grey screens during shadow of mordor last night. Is there a decent replacement in the sub $150 range or should I save up a bit?
Remove the GPU, SATA devices, all USB devices, use onboard video. See if that gets anywhere.
Felix Lighter
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Not always but it's not unusual.
Haswell-E so no onboard video. I've removed all USB devices and all non boot drives.
Thinking about easy ways to test for a short. The problem is my water cooling setup is stuck in my case unless I drain it. Could I just unscrew the motherboard and slide in some anti-static plastic in between the stand offs and the motherboard?
I've checked pretty thoroughly for a potential short, and I can't really find one, but it's the only thing left I can think of unless my CPU suddenly died after just 2 weeks.
AbundantChoice
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Has anyone swapped power supplies in the Dell XPS 8700 deskops?
I need a new home machine, my work will pick up the tab of the new machine, but it has to be a Dell (and I can't ask for an Alienware with a straight face). So my thought was to get either the 8700 or one of their office-oriented Precision T3610 workstations (which can be outfitted with a bigger power supply but seem to be much more server-oriented with Xeon processors, etc), then buy a new 970 card on my own and put it in there. But the 8700 power supply is weaksauce and can't handle higher-end cards.
Did some digging online and chatter is mixed on supply-swapping in the 8700. Seems like there might be some sort of tabs in the case that make putting a new supply in more difficult?
I need a new home machine, my work will pick up the tab of the new machine, but it has to be a Dell (and I can't ask for an Alienware with a straight face). So my thought was to get either the 8700 or one of their office-oriented Precision T3610 workstations (which can be outfitted with a bigger power supply but seem to be much more server-oriented with Xeon processors, etc), then buy a new 970 card on my own and put it in there. But the 8700 power supply is weaksauce and can't handle higher-end cards.
Did some digging online and chatter is mixed on supply-swapping in the 8700. Seems like there might be some sort of tabs in the case that make putting a new supply in more difficult?
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prodystopian
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Anyone?
Angel Abaddon
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Brother is not a happy man. He got all his components, including a 970, for his new build and spent the afternoon putting it all together. Finally goes to turn it on, works for a few minutes, then switches off. Trys again, knocks off after another few minutes, with the motherboard giving an anti-surge prevention message.
Trys taking it off the surge protector on the mains and it won't turn back on. No pop or burning smell, but (while trying to tech support from 300 miles away on Skype) it seems like the PSU has died (came with some small dohicky that plugs into the motherboard to test power failures and watercooling issues, didn't work with that either). Now it's a 4 day - week turn around on the RMA while hoping it's not taken any of the other parts with it.
Trys taking it off the surge protector on the mains and it won't turn back on. No pop or burning smell, but (while trying to tech support from 300 miles away on Skype) it seems like the PSU has died (came with some small dohicky that plugs into the motherboard to test power failures and watercooling issues, didn't work with that either). Now it's a 4 day - week turn around on the RMA while hoping it's not taken any of the other parts with it.
Are you using XMP ram settings? On my Asus X99 Deluxe MB, if I use any XMP selection, it will cause the computer to random crash and stall even in the bios. If you are, try manual entering your ram settings with 100 bootstrap and 100 blck.
Probably a different situation but I had a similar problem with a friends pc. I don't remember if it happened everytime i installed the gfx card (while trying to fix overheating issues) or if it was after some cold start ups, but when it happened the problem was that i stopped it and i should have just let it restart a few times( i think it was 3 times, the restarts were reproducible as was the solution of just letting them happen but like i said i don't remember the trigger). After several restarts and me closing the pc everytime, cmos got corrupted or something and i had to reset cmos to fix it and then let it do those 2-3 restarts until it started normally loading windows. After that everything was fine.
IMACOMPUTA
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I'd say don't get an 840 evo. They're having issues....anyone?
Go for a Crucial Mx100.
IMACOMPUTA
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Usually when I have a PSU go out and have no backups, I'll go to best buy (or whatever store sells PC parts. All I have is BB
) and buy a PSU while I'm waiting for my "real" PSU from Newegg or wherever. Then I'll return it when my "real" PSU arrives.
No down time!!!
Its also a good way to verify its a bad PSU.
Angel Abaddon
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Unfortunately we're in the UK so there's not a huge amount of options to get one on the high street, plus we usually get told "sorry, once it's been opened/used, no returns unless it's faulty"
Soodanim
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I hate the lack of shops here, in my town it's either buy an absurdly overpriced NVidia 560 from PC World or nothing. I'd love to see a 120hz or Gsync monitor in action, but there's no chance without buying my own.
And I'm no longer sure of what to do about the 970s. I've held off buying because I don't want to go through the process of RMA if I get one of the coil whine ones. The most sensible option would be to go for Gigabyte because they're based here, but 12.5" limits my case choices.
UnObtainium17
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...anyone?
New to building a pc, but I would agree that avaoid 840's SSD until samsung has fixed its issue. Also go for H100i, neve had experience with H60 but i can vouch for the H100is performance. H60 will do the job, but with a CPU like that I would go balls out and buy the biggest one I can afford/fit. Luckily for me I got a recertified H100i for $65. Though I've been seeing new ones drop to $85 w/ 3 year warranty over at newegg.
EDIT: Thats a pretty good case. I would have bought that instead of my Thermaltake G42 if I saw that when I was hunting of a case back then.
The fix will be released on the 15th.
mauinho
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I might take a gamble on this also... has he replied to you? We are paypal protected ... these sound too good to be true tho
The 840 is fine and the firmware patch will be released by mid-October. Having just gone through a stupidly complex process to update the firmware for a Crucial M4 SSD, I will never buy another Crucial SSD again, nor would I recommend them to anyone.
(Stupidly complex process = all other drives have to be disconnected from the motherboard and the Crucial SSD drive needs to be connected to the first Intel SATA port, otherwise the linux updater won't boot at all. They have a Windows app that can supposedly boot the firmware, but a lot people (like me!) can't get it to work (it won't "see" the Crucial SSD) and have to resort to the linux updater.)
If it were shorting, it shouldn't be powering on at all. Sounds like a cold boot bug.
Iacobellis
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Is this thread the right place for discussion of Hackintosh builds?
Not sure if we have hackintosh thread, but I and maybe some others can still help you.
Overclocking will definitely improve the dips you get in games that are highly dependent on CPU speed.
Iacobellis
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Okay. Well I'm looking into building a Hackintosh to replace my rMBP, and recently discovered that the Devil's Canyon chips don't work straight out of the box on Z87 mobos. Is there a way to flash the BIOS of the board without a CPU? I don't have a spare to use just for the flashing process.
I decided to go with a Series 8 board as they seem to work better with OS X and the 4790K is only $5 more than the 4770K on Newegg. I haven't placed the order yet, so my list of parts is here if you want to take a look at it.
Thanks!
Which motherboard? Some have the ability, and some don't.
Most new Z87 boards sold should have a newer BIOS revision that supports Devil's Canyon.
Iacobellis
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GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-UD5 TH.
I linked all the parts in my last post if you want to check it out.
BIOS F4 supports Haswell Refresh, and that was released in March 2014, so if the board was bought before that it definatly wont support DC out of box. I dont think it can be updated without a CPU on this board.
Iacobellis
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So if I purchase it this month it should work?
Nah you can only confirm what i said, since you could be buying old stock what you are saying isnt 100%. And i dont think you can tell from the board physically what Bios is installed from the factory.
Maybe a friend has a Haswell chip you could borrow?
fifasnipe2224
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What are some over 750GB SSD SATA 6 Gb/s I should be looking into?
Crucial MX100, Samsung Pro, usual suspects.
Iacobellis
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Nope. Is the difference between the 4770K and the 4790K that big?
well...i already have my MX100 plugged into the first port, and i don't use any other drives. so that'd be fine with me.
4790K runs at 4.4GHz out of the box. If you're the type that thinks you will never get around to actually fiddling with the BIOS settings to get it at that speed by yourself, then that would be the major thing you'd miss out on.
Iacobellis
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So if I do plan on overclocking, the 4770K should be enough?
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