Ugh. Can't find 980s anywhere. Any thoughts on replacement?
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Ugh. Can't find 980s anywhere. Any thoughts on replacement?
FreddieQuell
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What kind of temperature improvemeents have you seen with the switch?
Excellent.
If I don't need to bother upgrading the mb/cpu I'll definately pick up a 980,
I am using an aftemarket cooling solution - Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus - CPU Cooler with 4 Direct Contact Heatpipes - although never bothered to O/C.
Thanks for the input - definitely appreciated.
I did have every intention to OC, but the system was pretty damned fast when I initially built it.
Stereogatari
Banned
I have a PS4. The next-gen games I am most looking forward to are MGSV and FFXV.
I've never had a Gaming PC before. I used to have a 13" Vaio Laptop in my teens and in my 20s I've been using an 11" MacBook Air for PC needs, both very crappy when it comes to games.
For some reason I'm itching towards getting a super gaming rig just so I can play MGSV and FFXV (assuming PC release happens) to the absolute best quality as possible. But would this just be a waste of time when the games will look and perform just as good on my PS4? Obviously they'll do better on PC, but will they be so much better as to warrant spending near to £1k on a gaming rig? Especially as someone who has never had one before.
Also tangential question. How much would a good 4k outputting rig cost?
I've never had a Gaming PC before. I used to have a 13" Vaio Laptop in my teens and in my 20s I've been using an 11" MacBook Air for PC needs, both very crappy when it comes to games.
For some reason I'm itching towards getting a super gaming rig just so I can play MGSV and FFXV (assuming PC release happens) to the absolute best quality as possible. But would this just be a waste of time when the games will look and perform just as good on my PS4? Obviously they'll do better on PC, but will they be so much better as to warrant spending near to £1k on a gaming rig? Especially as someone who has never had one before.
Also tangential question. How much would a good 4k outputting rig cost?
About 10-15C lower I'd say. I decided to switch after reading fluffydelusions' impressions:
Felix Lighter
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I updated my BIOS and now my overclock is completely fucked. It crashes in seconds even when I set the voltage manually. I'm rolling back to the last version. Right when everything seemed rock solid, I was having some issues with USB devices coming back on after waking up from sleep so I decided it might be worth upgrading the bios. What a mistake. I did not want to deal with this today.
Edit: Rolling back may have saved me. I'm running Prime95 now but before the rollback, I'd be lucky to see the desktop before Bluescreening.
Edit: Rolling back may have saved me. I'm running Prime95 now but before the rollback, I'd be lucky to see the desktop before Bluescreening.
Nice, thanks.
Are you sure about the monitor? Buy 2 970s and get the Asus PG278Q ROG.
No - actually thinking about getting the LG 34UM95-P: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005635
edit: though I should probably take G-Sync into account...what are your thoughts? the LG34 looks so sexy.
Updating a bios is always a crap shoot. I never ever do it unless I have a very specific reason to do so. Glad its working!
adamantypants
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Realistically there's no reason to update a mobo bios unless something is broken. It's always a tense experience for me
Just avoid sleep. Sleep is broken half the time and the with overcocks it breaks things more often than not. Shut down if you need to, takes what <15 seconds to boot with an SSD.
Money isn't a problem I see?
I really couldn't go back to a 60Hz monitor after playing on the ROG. Can't you try out both and then decide? There's also the Acer XB280HK with 4K and G-sync, but it's only 60Hz. I don't know if 60Hz and G-Sync actually make sense.JumpJeff84
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Last gen I bought a gaming PC in 2009, after not having really had one before. I went and tried out some games I'd played on console (Batman AA, Darksiders) and playing them on PC the difference was amazing. For me the biggest deal is frame rate.
A lot of developers are happy with 30fps on console. I own a PS4 as well, but I've been yearning to upgrade my PC just to get back to 60. I think a gaming PC would complement your PS4 nicely. A lot of games will have a substantial improvement on the PC, and with Steam sales and the like you'll surely stumble across a few PC exclusives that you'll like.
DarkoMaledictus
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Hey guys, anyone got x99 setup with a 5920k?
I was wondering how much you are overclocking and what is the best board to get for it right now?
Also, any truth to the rumor that the Asus x99-e ws (500$~) will also support skylake? Any official statement by Asus? I can only find sites implying it will but its not very clear.
Also, worth it going x99/DDR4 now that Skylake is 9 months away with boards with pcie4 on the way?
I was wondering how much you are overclocking and what is the best board to get for it right now?
Also, any truth to the rumor that the Asus x99-e ws (500$~) will also support skylake? Any official statement by Asus? I can only find sites implying it will but its not very clear.
Also, worth it going x99/DDR4 now that Skylake is 9 months away with boards with pcie4 on the way?
DarkoMaledictus
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Yeah edited, mid next year and Broadwell supposed to be a footnote, not supposed to last long.
Inferno313
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Why'd I RMA my whiney 970? I didn't know it would take this long. It's not supposed to get to Newegg until Wednesday, a week after I sent it... Then I have to wait for them to process it and ship me a new one... I just wanna play vidjya. T_T if I knew it'd take this long I might've just lived with it.
I'm running at 4Ghz at stock voltage, I haven't explored any higher (for lack of a need really). The best board depends on your needs, I'm using an ASRock since I need 2 accessible PCIe 2.0 slots. Performance-wise, there aren't any huge differences between boards, and even the low-end ones already feature more connectivity options than most people need.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Thank you Durante! Incredible mods btw =)!
DarkoMaledictus
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I found one here :
http://news.softpedia.com/news/ASUS...Motherboard-with-Skylake-Support-458632.shtml
The Asus x99-e ws is not your standard x99 howerver, has additional pins.
Here is another :
http://gadget-help.com/fee-asus-x99...r-workstations-and-servers-with-a-single-cpu/
longdi
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actually all Asus X99 boards have those extra pins, they called it OC Socket, supposed to improve voltage stability during OC...
http://rog.asus.com/347222014/rampa...usive-oc-socket-extra-pins-extra-performance/
I think the newspedia rumors are totally incorrect.
http://rog.asus.com/347222014/rampa...usive-oc-socket-extra-pins-extra-performance/
I think the newspedia rumors are totally incorrect.
Felix Lighter
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It didn't seem so broken before but after all this it is completely broken. My PC will not wake up from sleep. It seems to try, everything powers up and then after a few seconds it restarts to nothing but a black screen. I have to power it down and bring it back, oddly enough once windows loads it reloads the session prior to going to sleep as if it just woke up. I guess I'm disabling it now but the only issue I had before I stupidly update my BIOS and reverted back, was one time it woke up and my mouse didn't turn back on. That's what inspired this whole circus. Now suddenly sleep is not an option. All I accomplished was wasting several hours and making my PC behave worse.
-duskdoll-
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PC-GAF i have a question; The PC i'm using now is about 7 years old, a family friend helped me get an extra 1GB of RAM and some extra HDD but it was difficult to find the parts and i don't know if i can upgrade it any more. So my question is, should i keep the PC and salvage whatever parts i can and buy the rest or give the PC to my brothers and start from scratch?
My laptop used to do exactly that. Replacing the RAM fixed it.
IAmRandom31
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Ok guys I am to the point of just about being ready to upgrade my PC. Think it is time.
Current Build :
I5-2400 Quad @ 3.9Ghz
Radeon 6770 1GB GDDR5 @ 950Mhz
8GB 1666 DDR3 memory
Gigabyte Z68-DS3
Cooler Master HAF Full Tower case
450W PSU ( believe it is rated @ 75% efficiency? )
Thats the important parts.
I of course would like to upgrade everything but think I will begin with my weak ass GPU as there are plenty of games out there still not really pushing my CPU much. This is the card I am considering
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161441
Radeon 280X w/ 3GB GDDR5. Not going to go any lower then 3GB of RAM. Would even love to do 4GB of GDDR5 but this card is hitting the sweet spot for me with price and power. And it looks like it is reliable and quiet and such like that. Sooooo, here is my question. PSU. How high do I need to go for a 280x? The specifications show requirement is a 750w PSU, but that sounds extremely high to me for some reason. My current card is supposed to need a 400w supply also but I have tested my outlet and lines with the PC running games that push it to the max and it only runs, with everything running mind you, @ 174w. So I think that 750w number is pure BS. Could be wrong of course.
So just checking with peeps who may have that card what they think.
Current Build :
I5-2400 Quad @ 3.9Ghz
Radeon 6770 1GB GDDR5 @ 950Mhz
8GB 1666 DDR3 memory
Gigabyte Z68-DS3
Cooler Master HAF Full Tower case
450W PSU ( believe it is rated @ 75% efficiency? )
Thats the important parts.
I of course would like to upgrade everything but think I will begin with my weak ass GPU as there are plenty of games out there still not really pushing my CPU much. This is the card I am considering
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161441
Radeon 280X w/ 3GB GDDR5. Not going to go any lower then 3GB of RAM. Would even love to do 4GB of GDDR5 but this card is hitting the sweet spot for me with price and power. And it looks like it is reliable and quiet and such like that. Sooooo, here is my question. PSU. How high do I need to go for a 280x? The specifications show requirement is a 750w PSU, but that sounds extremely high to me for some reason. My current card is supposed to need a 400w supply also but I have tested my outlet and lines with the PC running games that push it to the max and it only runs, with everything running mind you, @ 174w. So I think that 750w number is pure BS. Could be wrong of course.
So just checking with peeps who may have that card what they think.
Sectorseven
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The case should certainly be salvageable, if you like the style. The power supply as well, however you need to keep in mind the wattage your new system will need and make sure your current unit can handle it. Your old one likely has no warranty anymore either so that might be worth considering as well. Disc drive should be compatible if your old one is SATA. The hard drives can be swapped in as well, again if they're SATA. If they're IDE you'd need an adapter of some sort, and once again keep in mind any warranties and how comfortable you are with their reliability. You're probably going to want at least a small SSD drive in addition though.
If you decide to buy that amazing LG be sure to do it somewhere where you can rma it hassle-free because some units have serious backlight bleeding problems.
Idle temps mean little except to tell you if you put on the CPU heatsink on incorrectly. Load temps, when running Prime95 or other CPU stress programs. are what you should be looking at when OC. With your current cooling setup, OC the CPU as far as it will go while staying under 85C.
There's absolutely no reason to get a 280x right now. Spend 30 dollars more and get a nvidia 970. Even a reference 970 will be better than that 280.
Try disabling Internal CPU PLL. In the past, it cause issues waking up from sleep. I didn't need it for 5930K@4.2GHz.
Felix Lighter
Member
I'll run a mem test sometime this weekend just in case.
Maybe. I might give that a try as well, though, before I mucked around with the BIOS upgrade that issue didn't exist. Now even after reverting back it's a problem.
IAmRandom31
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970 looks nice.
But about that original PSU question ....
NM reading over a tomshardware detailed power consumption report. Seems even the top of the line cards are about 175w draw max.
opticalmace
Member
Whoa, decided to OC my GPU (Radeon 6950) for the first time. Was super easy, and got an extra ~18% performance with no problems. Barely had to adjust Vcore and with a user-defined fan speed profile it stays quite cool as well.
I should have done this years ago!
I should have done this years ago!
Hrmm... funny. The 34UM95 was listed at $999 when Newegg was out of stock, now they have stock and it's $1199. I've been hoping to pick it up at $999 since Newegg is tax free for me, but if they're going to jack up the price like that, I'd just rather go to frys and pay tax.
Nostremitus
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They are good for HTPCs and super small form factor builds in which you can't include a discreet GPU.
Otherwise, they aren't worth it.
zeroeffect
Member
Calling it now...Evil Within is terribly optimized on PC based on this thread:
http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1508448-the-evil-within-releases-next-week-things-to-know/
Looks like I'll be picking it up cheap on Steam like Dead Rising 3. Damn man. Can't wait until Witcher 3 comes out and properly utilizes PC architecture...I hope.
http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1508448-the-evil-within-releases-next-week-things-to-know/
Looks like I'll be picking it up cheap on Steam like Dead Rising 3. Damn man. Can't wait until Witcher 3 comes out and properly utilizes PC architecture...I hope.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Thanks for the feedback and answers guys!!. Decided to return my 4790k and trade it in for a 5820k.
When all the dust is settled its 350 more but I get the Asus X99 deluxe mobo and 16 gigs of DDR4 G. Skill ram I get to keep when I upgrade to Skylake etc.
Darn amazon is great for returns!
When all the dust is settled its 350 more but I get the Asus X99 deluxe mobo and 16 gigs of DDR4 G. Skill ram I get to keep when I upgrade to Skylake etc.
Darn amazon is great for returns
!Anyone? Please?
Chance Hale
Member
Will 4K @ 120hz and gsync'd be a thing before the RoG Swift comes back in stock? It was stock at Newegg for 10 minutes while I was sleeping for the first time in 2 weeks >_>
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
PSU might a bit low for Sli, what I've seen out there is 750 w. But I wouldn't stress too much about sli... to be fair the more you wait to add sli the more that upgrade will be wortless. Sli is good for massive resolutions but if the card is already struggling at 1080 don't expect massive gains. Also messing with drivers is a pain and a lot of games get no sli support at launch.
Personally I would just upgrade to the new best thing when the time comes and sell the 970...
Is there a benefit to one approach over the other? I'm in an old Victorian home so that might affect powerline from the little I understand of it
opticalmace
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What currency?
Any reason why you're getting such an expensive CPU heatsink/fan? Seems kinda pricey to me, but I guess if you're going for high overclocks it could make sense.
Makes sense. I'd just like to keep one door open in case VR Direct actually becomes a thing. I'll think a bit more about it.
Thanks!
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