If I understand you correctly, there's no point in upgrading right now, but what about Broadwell and Skylake? Is Broadwell a good point or just wait a few months longer and get into the new microarchitecture of Skylake?
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If I understand you correctly, there's no point in upgrading right now, but what about Broadwell and Skylake? Is Broadwell a good point or just wait a few months longer and get into the new microarchitecture of Skylake?
Mussssttttt hold out for skylake until i make my upgrade from ivybridge
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/2...imited-edition-tuf-sabertooth-z97-mark-s.html
But man are they making it hard
damn that looks incredible.
I'm still rocking an OC'd 2500k. I don't really see the benefit of upgrading solely for gaming right now. It's costly and might get you 10% improvement? I'm waiting for Skylake.
Hey gaf, so I recently purchased the above PSU for a mid tower case, but I also want to re use this same PSU for a Micro ATX build down the line.
- I was wondering if this exact case will fit in a Bitfenix Prodigy case?
- Anyone else use the Corsair AX 760 PSU in a Bitfenix Prodigy case?
Here is the link for it on Newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139042&cm_re=ax760-_-17-139-042-_-Product
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Are you sure you don't mean a Mini-ITX build? Because the Bitfenix Prodigy is a Mini-ITX case, which is smaller than Micro ATX.
Aside from that, your current power supply should work fine. Sometimes modular power supplies can be a little bit longer, but that one seems pretty normal sized. Might want to look up specific dimensions if you're that worried about it, though.
Oh sorry, yeah I always got a bit mixed up with the naming schemes of motherboards. Read sine other forums and people say it should fit fine. Thanks for the reply.
Enosh
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hey, don't visit here often but time has come again and I think I might buy a new PC in the next 3 months, around 850 budged, give or take 50 (more take than give -.-)
this is what i came up with atm
mostly based on number 3 in the OP
sorry for the non english but I think people should get what I mean
not thinking about any overclocking at all
so questions:
-any cheaper CPU alternatives that wouldn't bottleneck the whole thing? the reason I'm asking despite being under the 850 thing is that this is the online price of that store and I might buy it from some other place not necessarily from there, it's just the best place I've found to mess around with configuration so in general the stuff is about 10-20% more expensive per part which can add up
prefer intel
-760 vs 280x, benchmarks show 280 being very slightly ahead, but idk how nvidia vs ati is atm, I remember reading some driver problems and not properly working with some games etc, had an ati so far and I think it was fine so maybe the whole thing is overblown, idk
-psu fine? it's the thing I'm most ignorant about, 550 enough for all of this? agian, not thinking about any overclocking, but might replace some part down the line
-1866 vs 1600 MHz ram, any big difference? went with 1866 atm because well bigger number and didn't really notice much of a price difference ^^
edit: forgot to say, gaming mostly obviously, only have a 22" so still rocking that 1680:1050
this is what i came up with atm
mostly based on number 3 in the OP
sorry for the non english but I think people should get what I mean
not thinking about any overclocking at all
so questions:
-any cheaper CPU alternatives that wouldn't bottleneck the whole thing? the reason I'm asking despite being under the 850 thing is that this is the online price of that store and I might buy it from some other place not necessarily from there, it's just the best place I've found to mess around with configuration so in general the stuff is about 10-20% more expensive per part which can add up
prefer intel
-760 vs 280x, benchmarks show 280 being very slightly ahead, but idk how nvidia vs ati is atm, I remember reading some driver problems and not properly working with some games etc, had an ati so far and I think it was fine so maybe the whole thing is overblown, idk
-psu fine? it's the thing I'm most ignorant about, 550 enough for all of this? agian, not thinking about any overclocking, but might replace some part down the line
-1866 vs 1600 MHz ram, any big difference? went with 1866 atm because well bigger number and didn't really notice much of a price difference ^^
edit: forgot to say, gaming mostly obviously, only have a 22" so still rocking that 1680:1050
Dance Inferno
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If only it were that easy. That was the first option I tried actually and my pc wouldn't recognize the USB drive at all.
I did it a few months ago (twice, actually), so I don't know what you were doing wrong.
Dance Inferno
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I don't know what to tell you. I tried making it using the boot camp utility as well as through terminal commands, but no dice. I was able to make an ubuntu boot drive using the same method though, so not sure what's going on there. I even used the exact same Windows iso on ubuntu and it worked, so the issue must have been with the way Mac formats the disk. When I inserted the working USB into my Mac afterwards I got a message that the disk was unreadable.
Looks like a solid build, at first glance.
Can't say much as to alternatives for the CPU, the 4690 is the best you're going to get in that price range, while also saving a little by not getting the unlocked version. (I have a stock clock 4690K myself, runs like a dream.)
From personal experience, I would go with Nvidia if it's not cost-prohibitive. I've had an AMD card for the past couple years, and I just cannot stand their shoddy drivers. But it works, so whatever. Get whichever works better for you, price-wise.
550 watts should be fine for what you have there, just make sure it has a single, good 12v rail.
Not really much point in paying more for higher clocked RAM, it's not going to make a noticeable difference, so it's not worth the higher price. RAM has gone up in price recently, so probably better to look for something cheaper.
Only other input I can think of is that you should consider getting an SSD (64GB - 120GB) for your OS drive. It really makes a world of difference for boot time. Plus, they're pretty cheap right now.
Enosh
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ah thank you, the site usually does a good job of keeping stuff that isn't supported off the list, might be an oversight, will look into the 1600MHz versions anyway due to what metal said
and yeah, was thinking about that SSD, there is one for about 50 (the the same one that is in the OP iirc) so if I stay at around 800 I'll probably get it
as for the card will look into the 760, think it's about the same price range
also card, what the fuck do I do with the billion versions? there is the same ati card with some boost and 40 cheaper and there is some windforce 760 and OC ones and way too much variants in general -.-
zero shift
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I would just narrow it down to a couple and look at reviews/benchmarks to see which is the most quiet/lowest temps/dependable. Installing a new video card is one of the easiest thing you can do anymore, so you shouldn't have to worry about compatibility issues.
But, honestly,
I just got what I thought looked coolest.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Now that I have my computer up and running, where do I go to overclock my CPU (i5-4690K) and GPU (Sapphire R9 280 Dual-X 3GB)? I've never done this before and want to make sure I don't make any mistakes or screw up my system, so can someone please point me to a step-by-step guide?
ITX 970.
appaws
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Yeah, if I am not mistaken both Gigabyte and MSI have them coming out soon.
appaws
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This thread at Overclock.net has a basic guide in the OP. Also, I am sure these guys can help answer any questions you might have along the way...
http://www.overclock.net/t/1490324/the-intel-devils-canyon-owners-club/0_50
Damn, I really need a gfx card fast and I'm kind of in a pinch which is facilitating the purchase a bit. How soon until these come out?
What case will you be using? Most ITX cases can take full length cards.
Dance Inferno
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Thanks! I'll check it out.
Galax too. Quite exciting to have such a potent card in this size.
Can anyone in the UK suggest a good website that delivers custom PC builds? I was hoping to check their prices and see how much more expensive it would be compared to buying each component separately and building it myself (which I've never done before).
If I tried building it myself I'd be worried about forgetting to buy some cable or the sound card or some such thing like that, so would ideally prefer to get an online business to build it for me?
Any advice would be appreciated !
If I tried building it myself I'd be worried about forgetting to buy some cable or the sound card or some such thing like that, so would ideally prefer to get an online business to build it for me?
Any advice would be appreciated !
Can anyone in the UK suggest a good website that delivers custom PC builds? I was hoping to check their prices and see how much more expensive it would be compared to buying each component separately and building it myself (which I've never done before).
If I tried building it myself I'd be worried about forgetting to buy some cable or the sound card or some such thing like that, so would ideally prefer to get an online business to build it for me?
Any advice would be appreciated !
scan, overclockers, dinopc, yoyotech, pc specialist to name a few. We have a lot here.
Not sure just yet. Just did a cooler master elite 130 build for my brother and it was pretty awesome. The node 304? Interest me as well.
CM Elite 130 can take 343mm card, so even the Gigabyte G1 (312mm) will fit inside it. The Node is slightly smaller at 310mm, so no need to restrict yourself to small cards. Most other cards will be less than 310.
That's cool I just wasn't sure if the itx 970 was better aside from the size.
Anyone have brand suggestions for the full size 970's?
Would anyone be able to share with me a link for a Windows 8.1 ISO image? I grabbed a key from that subreddit and downloaded 8.1 through the link they provided, but there's an error when selecting it when I try and create a bootable USB.
It's Windows 8.1 Standard N. Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask.
It's Windows 8.1 Standard N. Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask.
Hmm need help on this one. Moving my SSD today the back part snapped off (the L shaped part that sits ontop of the power connectors). I cant get the pins to plug into the power supply anymore.
So im going to be ordering a new SSD off newegg (probably a samsung 840) but I wanted to know if there is anyway I can get windows again. I had bought my windows off of Reddit like 3 years ago but now I found out they cant sell on there anymore.
I feel so defeated right now....
So im going to be ordering a new SSD off newegg (probably a samsung 840) but I wanted to know if there is anyway I can get windows again. I had bought my windows off of Reddit like 3 years ago but now I found out they cant sell on there anymore.
I feel so defeated right now....
Use the same serial again.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-8/n-editions
Molex usually.
Can anyone in the UK suggest a good website that delivers custom PC builds? I was hoping to check their prices and see how much more expensive it would be compared to buying each component separately and building it myself (which I've never done before).
If I tried building it myself I'd be worried about forgetting to buy some cable or the sound card or some such thing like that, so would ideally prefer to get an online business to build it for me?
Any advice would be appreciated !
What other worries? Since all cables are supplied and if you dont have a sound card you use onboard sound which 90% people do. We can advise you on what to buy and that will mean you dont forget any parts. Watch some videos on how to put it together, its quite simple.
Got the MSI GTX 970 Gamer in my Node 304, no issues.
Naked Snake
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The Zotac 970 should fit in most mini-ITX cases I believe. It's 203mm long, by far the shortest 970 card so far.
About to upgrade my CPU - before I pull the trigger, any issues with these two you see?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KPRWB9G/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K2RQAQY/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KPRWB9G/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K2RQAQY/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Thanks guys. This is what I've decided on so far:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/qzz9yc
Any suggestions for:
- Power supply (estimated wattage for just the above is apparently 317W)
- CPU cooler
- Case
?
Does the above set-up sound ok? It's mostly to play Elite Dangerous. Don't need anything too extreme as a case, just something not too noisy.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/qzz9yc
Any suggestions for:
- Power supply (estimated wattage for just the above is apparently 317W)
- CPU cooler
- Case
?
Does the above set-up sound ok? It's mostly to play Elite Dangerous. Don't need anything too extreme as a case, just something not too noisy.
Thanks guys. This is what I've decided on so far:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/qzz9yc
Any suggestions for:
- Power supply (estimated wattage for just the above is apparently 317W)
- CPU cooler
- Case
?
Does the above set-up sound ok? It's mostly to play Elite Dangerous. Don't need anything too extreme as a case, just something not too noisy.
Any reason why you want an ATX rig to do that? Consider mITX or atleast mATX, no need for a huge tower these days.
Heres an ITX example
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£238.74 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.82 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard (£94.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£61.04 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£51.68 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (£267.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case (£62.75 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£80.00)
Total: £916.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-13 20:57 GMT+0000
zero shift
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So before I put in my GTX 970, I should uninstall my AMD drivers for my 6850 right?
Yep! Use Display Driver Uninstaller if you want to be safe.
It doesnt really matter but the best way is:
Download Display Driver Uninstaller
Follow the on screen prompts to Uninstall the drivers for a New GPU installation - Itll finish in Shutdown.
Then install the new GPU into the PC.
Then install the nVidia drivers.
Windows will use a generic driver when there is no driver installed.
Finally open DDU up again and set it to download Windows Updates drivers for new hardware automatically - This is disabled on first run.
Sorry to sound like a complete noob but I didn't even know what ATX or ITX was before your post. What's the difference between an ATX and ITX motherboard?
So you're saying I don't need a huge tower for the set-up I want? Won't that impact expandability, say if I want a second graphics card to SLI in future?
zero shift
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Kamakazie!
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The Prodigy comes in both mATX (Prodigy M) and mITX so make sure you get the right one based on your motherboard!
Yes the main loss of going with the smaller board is the fact that it only supports 1 PCIE card. But a lot of first time builders say they will SLI in the future but never do/will - I was one of them many years ago.
If you want your rig to be SLI ready you'll want something like a 750W PSU and ideally an ATX case to manage the heat output.
Most people don't end up running dual GPUs because of lack of consistent scaling in games, noise, heat and power consumption. It becomes much more optimum to just sell the old GPU and buy the next best single GPU you can afford.
Is that not just the download for the update program? It was only 6MB. I'm looking for the full OS ISO to put on my USB for a fresh install on my new PC. I know it's probably simple to find just googling it, but someone here is probably likely to know the best place to download it that isn't some dodgy copy or something. Just a little paranoid about installing it on the PC and having it cock something up.
Just wondering, what would be considered a CPU intensive task? I was also thinking of getting an i5, but now that I think of it, I'm not sure if putting more money into the CPU will be worth it considering what I use my computer for.
Is running an emulator, like dolphin for example, CPU intensive?
Yeah, emulators are generally considered to be CPU intensive. But IIRC they don't usually take advantage of hyper-threading, which is the big difference between i5's and i7's.
TheRealTalker
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So this is my final choices
So what do you say GAF will it work well? How long will it last?
Will I be able to run the latest games with good settings.... Will this run Star Citizen at all
I am new to this and I this is the final thing I got from advice from you guys... store guys and friends
So what do you say GAF will it work well? How long will it last?
Will I be able to run the latest games with good settings.... Will this run Star Citizen at all
I am new to this and I this is the final thing I got from advice from you guys... store guys and friends
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