Thanks a lot for your quick reply! Will ask for an update when I'm ready to build/ buy! Maybe a short answer regarding next years' skylake-NUC?
NZXT Kraken X41? According to Tweaktown it performed very well, among the best of the 120mm radiators and rivaling some 240mm radiators.
Unless you are trained to spot graphical oddities like Durante, you're not going to notice tearing when you are running at 120-144Hz. Anecdotally, not a single person in my social circle of gaming pals (15ish) notice it on their 120/144Hz monitors.
Normally screen tearing would happen if your frame rate is above your monitor's refresh rate. For example, if I have a 60 hz monitor and I'm getting 300 fps in Street Fighter 4, there would be some tearing.
I know how gsync improves the smoothness of games below the monitor's max refresh rate but what about those cases where you would be getting 300 fps? Does gsync cap your framerate at the monitor's max refresh rate without the input lag of vsync or would you still get screen tearing in this scenario?
You should always get tearing when you don't have vsync on, even if you are at 60FPS or under, it'll just look different. With high FPS you'll see tear lines more frequently, even multiple tear lines per frame, but horizontal displacement at a given tear line should be less.Normally screen tearing would happen if your frame rate is above your monitor's refresh rate. For example, if I have a 60 hz monitor and I'm getting 300 fps in Street Fighter 4, there would be some tearing.
You never get tearing with G-sync.I know how gsync improves the smoothness of games below the monitor's max refresh rate but what about those cases where you would be getting 300 fps? Does gsync cap your framerate at the monitor's max refresh rate without the input lag of vsync or would you still get screen tearing in this scenario?
Budget: £ 800 roughly UK to £ 1100
Main Use: gaming 4, VR 4 (not sure if Occulus or whatever)
Monitor Resolution: 1080p Sony living room TV W905 or Panasonic Ax802
1080p60. not bothered with PhysX / Super Sampling / CUDA etc
Looking to reuse any parts? none, first time PC build
When will you build?: This year, getting ready for VR
Will you be overclocking?: No - don't want excessive heat...cool running
form factor = want a flat type box (like large console) rather than a tower for under TV shelf. Will game with either 360 / Ps4 or XB1 controller
* other - Ethernet LAN connection, HDMI and and Digital Optical out required (Astro mix amp + headphones)
Been looking at Overclockers at prebuilt units, typically £ 1000 for cheapest I7 and a 970...Not cheap in UK
Pretty much the same as posted before.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i3-4340 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor (€140.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard (€99.90 @ Caseking)
Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (€74.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€53.71 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card (€147.80 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Silverstone RVZ01B Mini ITX Desktop Case (€90.00)
Power Supply: Silverstone 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply (€84.90)
Total: €691.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Other option is the Fractal Design Node 304, might work out a little cheaper, but its a cube type case.
You should always get tearing when you don't have vsync on, even if you are at 60FPS or under, it'll just look different. With high FPS you'll see tear lines more frequently, even multiple tear lines per frame, but horizontal displacement at a given tear line should be less.
You never get tearing with G-sync.
At least in the G-sync implementation thus far, there is apparently a (game dependent) input lag downside from hitting the max refresh. Shouldn't be a big problem for most, and it goes away by capping max FPS slightly lower.
http://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/preview2/
Here's a starting build to work from:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£198.71 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard (£80.26 @ More Computers)
Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£50.91 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Silverstone ML07B HTPC Case (£51.00 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Silverstone 600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply (£105.84 @ Scan.co.uk)
Other: Silverstone NT06-PRO 74.0 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£44.99)
Total: £531.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I don't know exactly when you play to buy and build it, but if you can wait, AMD should be releasing their R9 3XX line soon, at the very least that will provide some kind of competition for Nvidia's higher end GTX 970/980.
Depending on how much is spent on the graphics card, you may be able to fit a decent size SSD and regular hard drive in there. There's about half your maximum budget left to spend on those items.
Realistically, how much could I overclock an i5 4690K if I'm using a Hyper 212 EVO cooler before it becomes insuffient for cooling the CPU down? Is it worth it?
Thanks, never built anything before, I guess the mini ITX is almost getting like the Steam machines which is cool.
So could I change to I7 and add the 970 and go to 16 GB RAM (sorry am noob)
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/nYN9P6
Also daft question is the cooler you listed so much better than the standard cooler that comes with some CPU's...?
Guess I'll get myself a cooler for OC then. For the best really since the higher the clock the better it is for emulation I presume. Thanks!4.0-4.5GHz. Just keep the temps under 85C under full load, like stress testing with Prime95. And, yes, it's totally worth it. A 4690K can only boost to 3.9GHz on 1 core, while at worst, you can OC to 4.0GHz on all 4 cores. That would make a big difference for programs able to use multiple cores.
Guess I'll get myself a cooler for OC then. For the best really since the higher the clock the better it is for emulation I presume. Thanks!
Thanks a lot for your quick reply! Will ask for an update when I'm ready to build/ buy! Maybe a short answer regarding next years' skylake-NUC?
Normally screen tearing would happen if your frame rate is above your monitor's refresh rate. For example, if I have a 60 hz monitor and I'm getting 300 fps in Street Fighter 4, there would be some tearing.
I know how gsync improves the smoothness of games below the monitor's max refresh rate but what about those cases where you would be getting 300 fps? Does gsync cap your framerate at the monitor's max refresh rate without the input lag of vsync or would you still get screen tearing in this scenario?
The Xeon is the same as the 4790k except it doesnt have integrated graphics (no need if you have a GPU), and cant be overclocked. If you want the 4790k you'd be wanting a Z97 motherboard as the only advantage with that config is overclocking.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£198.71 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 57.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£31.30 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard (£80.26 @ More Computers)
Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£99.95 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£56.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (£273.98 @ Aria PC)
Case: Silverstone RVZ01B Mini ITX Desktop Case
Power Supply: Silverstone 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply (£73.80 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£74.09 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £889.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Random thought: So is AMD pretty much done in the CPU space?
Random thought: So is AMD pretty much done in the CPU space?
Random thought: So is AMD pretty much done in the CPU space?
I guess I should clarify -- CPU space as in the desktop arena. Do they have anything int he works to compete against Intel's lineup?
I guess I should clarify -- CPU space as in the desktop arena. Do they have anything int he works to compete against Intel's lineup?
What is the cheapest g-sync monitor?
That's basically an eternity away.
I dont know. but the i74790k is $280 at micro center in store!so how much of a performance gain would I get in simulation games such as arma and project cars if I chose an i7 4790k vs an i5 4690k?
Talked to a friend, he's willing to sell me his graphics card and PSU for a lot less than the suggested graphics card. I think the PSU is a little to big for the Silverstone case so might go with the Fractal Node one you suggested. (Though I'm not too keen on the shape)
Would the parts listed below work together? Also, since I might be able to save a fair bit of money on the graphics card and PSU, which i5 processor would you guys suggest?
CPU: Intel Core i3-4340 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor (140.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard (99.90 @ Caseking)
Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (74.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (53.71 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB (GV N670OC-2GD) - PCI-E
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 (90.00)
Power Supply: Corsair Power Supply (PSU) GS 600W Gaming Series 80 Plus
They have Zen in the pipeline. We will see if they can make a comeback.
Probably the AOC G2460PG. In the UK, 1920x1080 G-Sync displays start at ~£350.
I dont know. but the i74790k is $280 at micro center in store!
I know no one will likely give a shit...but...
I am so fucking impressed with my GTX 970. It's incredible. Every single game I own I can now run at max settings at 60fps, even with downsampling. It's so good!! And the games I had issues with before on AMD (Street Fighter IV, Crysis, etc) now run perfectly. And it's increased performance with Wii/GC games in Dolphin too!
And the thing is absolutely silent (EVGA GTX 970) - I have pretty decent cooling in my PC anyway, but so far...the GPU fans haven't really been used at all!. Definitely recommended! But then again, I upgraded from a five year old 1GB AMD Radeon 6870, so obviously I would be impressed!!
Looks good. The 6300 will hamper you a bit in some older engines, but should actually end up performing better on newer releases and newer engines.Hey guys! I want to upgrade my PC and I already have a list created. I just want to see if it's the best to get for what I want.
Here's a link to the parts: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XVspJx
and for reference as to what I already have: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VCNzsY
my case is an HP case which can be found here:http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/p...r_na-c02863024
What I want to know is if the parts from the first list should be good enough to allow me to play games at high settings with at least 30fps. Also want to know if the case I chose is the right size for everything.
So my finished computer would basically be
AMD FX 6300
Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard
MSI Radeon R9 280X
Kingston Fury White 8gb DDR3-1866
Corsair CX 600W
Thanks for any help!
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantI've finally decided to take my first foray in PC gaming after being talked into it by a few friends who have said they'll help me with building it and stuff. Knowing my friends though, I was hoping to run though my potential specs with GAF, just to get their opinion on them and hopefully a bit of advice on where I could potentially cut back or add towards. I'm looking at getting;
It's also a realistic timeline for creating an entirely new CPU.
hey pc gaf, I need help, I haven't built a pc probably since 1998, and I want to do it now. It's actually for my gf, mostly for school work, so I'm thinking the graphics card doesn't need to be great, but I don't want a total pos either. She would likely play the sims or simcity or some stuff on it so it should be able to do some gaming...
Her current pc is about 5 years old so should I just replace everything? I can grab the specs later but it's basically obsolete. I am wondering though do I need a new DVD player, case , etc right off the top? or would this be okay to keep even for the short term?
can someone put together an approximately 500-600$ system in this range, and is it really that much cheaper to build your own? it sure appears that way from looking at the shit I see in future shop and online.
also her monitor is okay so probably will keep that for now. I actually am liking the idea of replacing stuff every few years rather than everything all at once.
would something like this work? or am I going too low on cpu ? http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
Probably the AOC G2460PG. In the UK, 1920x1080 G-Sync displays start at ~£350.
There's also 24" Acer which starts at the same price.
What kind of school work does she need it to do?
Depending on the case and disc drive, you might be able to re-use those. How often does she use a disc drive?
Your PCPP link appears empty on my end.
she doesn't use the DVD drive much at all - see never lol. school work ranges mostly from word and excel to a lot of research online (videos, streaming, multiple windows open at a time, etc)
also the link works for me? sorry bout that , can you copy the link from the permalink like this?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/p9dtqs
edit - btw thanks for responding I want to do this but I don't want to screw it up either lol.
also i just realized prices are probably american...