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"I Need a New PC!" 2015 Part 2. Read the OP. Rocking 2500K's until HBM2 and beyond.

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What case does your coworker have? Is his case that cramped that leaving extra room is preferable? I'd pick the Zotac because it's likely to have better cooling.

Could you convince him to get a 4GB graphics card instead? it'd be better in the long run and wouldn't be bottlenecked as easily in the future. There are games today that will use up close to or even over 2GB of VRAM easily at 1080p and highish settings.

saw that the fan on the mini is at 100% constantly. This is for a guy in his 60s that plays call of duty for the most part. 2gb seemed ideal since hes coming from a 750 ti 2gb.
 

RGM79

Member
How cheap can you go on a Z97 motherboard to get solid overclocking (say 4.5Ghz on all cores on a 4790k)? I usually go for nicer boards but I'm asking because it would be a lot cheaper to upgrade to a 4790k + mobo rather than Skylake (and reuse my DDR3 ram in the process).

Nice Z170 boards are about $180 CAD so it would have to be a good amount under that to make it worthwhile.

It's hard to say, really. I used to think there was a cutoff point on what would be considered a reliable motherboard for overclocking, but I've been using a G3258 heavily overclocked on a B85 motherboard and it's been quite solid once I found the right settings. Still, overclocking isn't quite an exact science, and the fact that CPU silicon lottery and motherboard manufacturers not telling us anything about a motherboard's overclocking ability or power delivery/phases doesn't help either. I figure the quad core i7 4790K might need better power delivery and more phases than a dual core Pentium G3258 as well.

In the $160 CAD and under range for Z97 motherboards, this is all there is. The MSI Z97 PC Mate ($100 after $10 rebate) and SLI Krait jump out as the better options, they have excellent average scores of 4/5 stars after over a hundred reviews each.
 
It's hard to say, really. I used to think there was a cutoff point on what would be considered a reliable motherboard for overclocking, but I've been using a G3258 heavily overclocked on a B85 motherboard and it's been quite solid once I found the right settings. Still, overclocking isn't quite an exact science, and the fact that CPU silicon lottery and motherboard manufacturers not telling us anything about a motherboard's overclocking ability or power delivery/phases doesn't help either. I figure the quad core i7 4790K might need better power delivery and more phases than a dual core Pentium G3258 as well.

In the $160 CAD and under range for Z97 motherboards, this is all there is. The MSI Z97 PC Mate ($100 after $10 rebate) and SLI Krait jump out as the better options, they have excellent average scores of 4/5 stars after over a hundred reviews each.
Thanks RGM, I will do some research into the PC Mate board.

It's unfortunate that the Canadian dollar is so weak... the 6700k is over $500 (!).

^

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z97pcmate

is holding rock solid, overclocking my 4790

i've had it on for 24 hours now, outstanding temps
Excellent, I will definitely check it out. Thanks guys.
 

Chris R

Member
Well Windows 10 didn't care one bit for my windows 8.1 key that I got using the magic jelly key finder... and when I tried to reinstall 8.1 to do the 10 upgrade 8.1 didn't like that key either :(

I think I have the key written down somewhere from when I purchased it, hope I can find it to do a clean 8.1 install, upgrade to 10 to get the "changed" key, then a clean 10 install :\
 
What do you think of these builds? Haswell i7 seems like the obvious choice.. right?

FYI, I currently have a 2500k @ 4.3GHz, MSI 4G 970, 16GB DDR3-1600 CL9. Playing on a 1440p/144Hz monitor (mostly stuff like TF2 or Project Cars).
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Haswell i7 (can re-use my 212+!)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($428.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.98 @ NCIX)
Total: $538.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-14 15:19 EST-0500

Skylake i7 (I know I went for a nicer motherboard here...)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($501.50 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($36.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($193.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $882.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-14 15:20 EST-0500

Skylake i5
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($341.01 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($36.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($193.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $721.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-14 15:21 EST-0500
 

LilJoka

Member
What do you think of these builds? Haswell i7 seems like the obvious choice.. right?

FYI, I currently have a 2500k @ 4.3GHz, MSI 4G 970, 16GB DDR3-1600 CL9. Playing on a 1440p/144Hz monitor (mostly stuff like TF2 or Project Cars).
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Haswell i7 (can re-use my 212+!)


Skylake i7 (I know I went for a nicer motherboard here...)


Skylake i5

Why not put an i7 3770K in? I have no issues with mine at 4.2Ghz, and if you get a K version you should try hit 4.5Ghz on that. Im also running a heavily OCd 970 (1500/3900Mhz).
 
Why not put an i7 3770K in? I have no issues with mine at 4.2Ghz, and if you get a K version you should try hit 4.5Ghz on that. Im also running a heavily OCd 970 (1500/3900Mhz).

Can't really find any around here, unfortunately. I'm okay with buying a used CPU but only if I do it locally, in case some issues arise (unless it's someone on GAF or somewhere equally trustworthy).
 

LilJoka

Member
Can't really find any around here, unfortunately. I'm okay with buying a used CPU but only if I do it locally, in case some issues arise (unless it's someone on GAF or somewhere equally trustworthy).

eBay, what can go wrong with a CPU? Most resilient part of the whole PC.
 

LilJoka

Member
WTF Intel. Now I'm concerned about my new 6700k and the Hyper 212 Evo cooler.


Seems that third party coolers are bending the processors because of intel using thinner materials.

http://www.geek.com/chips/third-party-coolers-are-bending-intels-skylake-processors-1642036/

There was a thread about this. In general you don't need to worry. The only time there's a concern is when you're moving/transporting your system... so if you need to travel with it then remove the cooler (or possibly support it somehow).

As long as you don't drop the case it's not really an issue. It can handle the static load just fine.
 

RGM79

Member
Thanks RGM, I will do some research into the PC Mate board.

It's unfortunate that the Canadian dollar is so weak... the 6700k is over $500 (!).


Excellent, I will definitely check it out. Thanks guys.

I'm glad I got my i7 6700K at launch before prices rose.

Well Windows 10 didn't care one bit for my windows 8.1 key that I got using the magic jelly key finder... and when I tried to reinstall 8.1 to do the 10 upgrade 8.1 didn't like that key either :(

I think I have the key written down somewhere from when I purchased it, hope I can find it to do a clean 8.1 install, upgrade to 10 to get the "changed" key, then a clean 10 install :\

What version of Windows 8.1 are you running?

What do you think of these builds? Haswell i7 seems like the obvious choice.. right?

FYI, I currently have a 2500k @ 4.3GHz, MSI 4G 970, 16GB DDR3-1600 CL9. Playing on a 1440p/144Hz monitor (mostly stuff like TF2 or Project Cars).
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Haswell i7 (can re-use my 212+!)


Skylake i7 (I know I went for a nicer motherboard here...)


Skylake i5
You can reuse your Hyper 212+ with Skylake. That said.. do you really have a need to upgrade from your i5 2500K? If you absolutely need a new PC, I'd almost suggest going to Skylake just because it's a slightly better performer than Devil's Canyon and if you're going to upgrade, you might as well get higher performance if you can afford it.

WTF Intel. Now I'm concerned about my new 6700k and the Hyper 212 Evo cooler.


Seems that third party coolers are bending the processors because of intel using thinner materials.

http://www.geek.com/chips/third-party-coolers-are-bending-intels-skylake-processors-1642036/

Only Scythe coolers are known to be affected by it, and it only happens when you're transporting the PC with the cooler installed and the PC is shook hard, as far as I know.
 
Because you plan to buy and build in January or February, there's still quite a bit of time for prices to change. I can give you a general parts list as a guideline, but the prices will probably be out of date by then. You can post back about a week before you want to do this so we can give you an updated parts list with current pricing.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($119.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team Dark 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 380 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($183.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($41.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $813.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-14 12:59 EST-0500

It would also be possible to move up to a GTX 970 or R9 390 while staying a bit under $1000.

If I choose to get a GTX 970 or R9 390, is there a specific model I should look at based on the build you gave me?
 
I'm glad I got my i7 6700K at launch before prices rose.

You can reuse your Hyper 212+ with Skylake. That said.. do you really have a need to upgrade from your i5 2500K? If you absolutely need a new PC, I'd almost suggest going to Skylake just because it's a slightly better performer than Devil's Canyon and if you're going to upgrade, you might as well get higher performance if you can afford it.
Oops, you're right about the 212+ with Skylake.

It's more upgrade-itis than anything. I was sort of planning on waiting for Broadwell-E but looking at the cost of X99 boards (almost $300) and the expected CPU cost I started to think about the 4790k.

Maybe I'll think a bit more about it. :p
 

soco

Member
There was a thread about this. In general you don't need to worry. The only time there's a concern is when you're moving/transporting your system... so if you need to travel with it then remove the cooler (or possibly support it somehow).

As long as you don't drop the case it's not really an issue. It can handle the static load just fine.

That's worrisome. The cooler mentioned there I think is a lot less heavy than the Noctua one I just purchased. Guess I'll be holding off even longer on that cpu upgrade.
 
That's worrisome. The cooler mentioned there I think is a lot less heavy than the Noctua one I just purchased. Guess I'll be holding off even longer on that cpu upgrade.

Some are mounted with a backplate though (I don't know the specifics) that helps out.

I wouldn't be concerned TBH.
 

MANGOD

Banned
Need the exact part lists to advise you. £75 cheaper maybe just because I included Windows?

What case are you looking to use? I chose the Node 304 because it's like the Bitfenix you originally mentioned just more efficient.
Im gonna go with pc specialist. Its the same cpu, gpu, motherboard combo that you posted from scan and has better memory if i recall correctly. Same 250ssd and 1tb hard drive and comes with windows 10. It is not over clocked and can be had for £1035 which is actually more than 100 cheaper than scan when you upgrade the cooling needed for the overclock. I could even upgrade to 16gb of ram and be cheaper still, would I get much a difference with 16 over 8? This is strictly a gaming machine....
 
Hmmm. So recently Windows 10 randomly crashes. I don't get a blue screen or anything. Everything just shuts down and all I see is a black screen. Any ideas as to what's causing this?
 

RGM79

Member
What do you guys think? I want a new gaming pc for about 1000 Euro. Sadly the RAM price is not listed, but should be another 80 - 90. I will reuse my GTX 970 and the Fractal Define XL.

Anywhere to tweak?
How does this look? It's cheaper than the build you had listed but is equivalent in performance.

http://i.share.pho.to/f1791bff_o.png
1 x Western Digital WD Blue 1TB, 64MB Cache, SATA 6Gb/s (WD10EZEX)
1 x Samsung SSD 850 Evo 500GB, SATA (MZ-75E500B)
1 x Intel Core i5-6600K, 4x 3.50GHz, boxed ohne Kühler (BX80662I56600K)
1 x GeIL Dragon RAM white IC DIMM Kit 16GB, DDR4-3000, CL15-17-17-35 (GWW416GB3000C15DC)
1 x Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
1 x XFX Pro Series Modular Edition (Bronze) 650W ATX 2.3 (P1-650X-XXB9)
Summe aller Bestpreise: € 803,98

8.1 Home/Core/Standard x64

What error do you get when you try to validate Windows 10 with your windows 8.1 product key, or when you try to run the upgrade procedure?
 
It just shuts down? Could be malware.
I just ran a scan with Norton and nothing comes up. It's happened twice, neither of which I was doing anything CPU intensive. I ran a "Clean-up" on Norton because I got an alert that I recommended I should. I'm hoping that'll help?
 

Agraavan

Member
Hello, guys.

I'm willing to change my MoBo and CPU, while keeping the rest of my rig, and I would apreciate some help:

Here are the items I'd like to keep:

Memory Ram:Corsair Vengeance 4x4gb
VGA: MSI GTX 680
Power Supply: Corsair 650w
I don't know the rest...

My current MoBo is the ASUS M4A79T Deluxe and I really can't remember the Processor, but it's an AMD that ran its course a long time ago.

I have no preference between brand, either on the MoBo or the Processor, all I know is that I want the best for my bucks and I intend to do some heavy gaming, streaming and watch some HD videos.

I don't have much of a notion of prices, but I may be looking for something around ~$500/700 range, for both items. What do you guys suggest? Will I have any problems with the items I wanna keep if, say, I change from AMD to Intel? If I change the MoBo will there be any kind of incompatibility?

Thank you, guys.
 

RGM79

Member
Hello, guys.

I'm willing to change my MoBo and CPU, while keeping the rest of my rig, and I would apreciate some help:

Here are the items I'd like to keep:

Memory Ram:Corsair Vengeance 4x4gb
VGA: MSI GTX 680
Power Supply: Corsair 650w
I don't know the rest...

My current MoBo is the ASUS M4A79T Deluxe and I really can't remember the Processor, but it's an AMD that ran its course a long time ago.

I have no preference between brand, either on the MoBo or the Processor, all I know is that I want the best for my bucks and I intend to do some heavy gaming, streaming and watch some HD videos.

I don't have much of a notion of prices, but I may be looking for something around ~$500/700 range, for both items. What do you guys suggest? Will I have any problems with the items I wanna keep if, say, I change from AMD to Intel? If I change the MoBo will there be any kind of incompatibility?

Thank you, guys.

That'll work just fine. You can change to an Intel processor and motherboard and all will be compatible. Do you intend to overclock? What case do you have? We should make sure that the aftermarket CPU cooler we recommend will fit in your case, if you will be overclocking.
 

That's a fantastic build mate. Doesn't the 380 generate a decent amount of heat? I guess it'll be fine so long as I don't OC.

The best incremental upgrade is probably 380 -> 390 I assume too?
 

Jharp

Member
Since some parts are manually added it's a bit hard to compare in terms of cost. And did you mean to add the 6700k instead of the regular 6700?

If the difference in cost is a couple hundred I would go Skylake and get the 6700k. BTW, the Haswell build doesn't have an SSD listed, I assume that was just a mistake?

I'm guessing the intention is to solely compare these?
6700k + mobo + ram versus 4790k + mobo + ram?

Yeah, I'm mainly comparing CPU, RAM, MoBo, and GPU. I actually already have the case, power supply, and SSD. I thought those two builds were the same on that front, but didn't realize the storage was different.

I'm essentially trying to ascertain if I should go i7 4790k, 980ti, and DDR4, or splurge on the 6700. I initially only wanted to go for an i7 4790k and 970, and wasn't sure about RAM.

Just not sure if the extra several hundred dollars for the 980ti over the 970, and the 6700 over the 4790 is all that worth it.
 
Yeah, I'm mainly comparing CPU, RAM, MoBo, and GPU. I actually already have the case, power supply, and SSD. I thought those two builds were the same on that front, but didn't realize the storage was different.

I'm essentially trying to ascertain if I should go i7 4790k, 980ti, and DDR4, or splurge on the 6700. I initially only wanted to go for an i7 4790k and 970, and wasn't sure about RAM.

Just not sure if the extra several hundred dollars for the 980ti over the 970, and the 6700 over the 4790 is all that worth it.

Well you have to use DDR3 with the 4790k and DDR4 with the 6700k.

If the question is 4790 + 980 Ti versus 6700k + 970, the first combination will trounce the second.
 

Jharp

Member
Well you have to use DDR3 with the 4790k and DDR4 with the 6700k.

If the question is 4790 + 980 Ti versus 6700k + 970, the first combination will trounce the second.

Yeah, it's just the extra $400+ that I'm debating if it's worth it or not. How do you feel about the 4790k and the 980ti?
 

the21O

Neo Member
I'm looking to build my first homemade PC in 1-2 months. My current pc is a 5-6 year old laptop and my console is a ps4. I will need get everything but an optical drive as I already have a bluray drive and a couple of external usb 2.0 hard drives. I should also note I am much more comfortable with a controller for games than a m/k and don't want a huge case.
The PC will be used for gaming (GTA,Batman,Tomb Raider, and Witcher type games) and watching/streaming HD movies. It's going to be connected to a 1080p TV for the next 1-2 years max then its on to 4k.
As far as How important is PhysX / SuperSampling / CUDA to you? I don't know what any of that means??? I guess I want to run games as close to max as possible while getting 60fps. I would like to spend less than $900 US. Thanks
 

Agraavan

Member
That'll work just fine. You can change to an Intel processor and motherboard and all will be compatible. Do you intend to overclock? What case do you have? We should make sure that the aftermarket CPU cooler we recommend will fit in your case, if you will be overclocking.
It's this one:

zeQhBYj.jpg

And no, I will not overclock (as I even know where to start). If there is anything else you should know, let me know.
 
I am looking for a new PC. This will be my main machine, that I will use mainly for heavy web browsing, but also for medium video editing/Photoshop, and light gaming. Can anyone help me build, and give me a few options for the price? My max is about $600. Is the following possible for this price?

Here are my must haves-
small/tiny case - size of an Optiplex small form factor, or smaller/tiny (NUC)

Motherboard- whatever works well with all other components. Must have at least one USB3.0 port, and a few USB2 ports. HDMI out is preferable. VGA port also would be nice.

Power supply/Heatsink- whatever works well, shouldn't be too loud though.

CPU- Intel i5 or i7, at least 4 core, 5th or 6th gen. As high as possible. Whatever I can get for the price.

solid state drive- 120 GB or more

storage drive (HDD)- 500 GB or more, preferably WD brand

RAM- 16GB. 32 would be awesome

Graphics card- any decent one, nothing fancy. Don't need all effects on when playing my older games.

Sound card- any decent one, nothing fancy.

DVD/CD burner- not needed, since I have an external, but would be great if any extra money leftover.

OS- Not needed, but a Windows 10 license would be great if any extra money leftover.

keyboard/mouse- not needed

monitor- not needed

I am heavily looking at getting an Intel NUC kit with the i5-5250 cpu, and just adding the drives and RAM. Would this be a good alternative? The graphics situation on one of these is not good, so I'm hoping if I build something from scratch, it will get me better components. I could also wait until the 6th gen i5 NUCs come out next month for the better CPU, but the price will be higher.
Thanks everyone!
 

manfestival

Member
I love amazon but it totally sucks that they have a local office. Having to pay tax for things sucks. Shipping would be so fast but I gotta pay a bit more for the same items thanks to tax
 

RGM79

Member
That's a fantastic build mate. Doesn't the 380 generate a decent amount of heat? I guess it'll be fine so long as I don't OC.

The best incremental upgrade is probably 380 -> 390 I assume too?

Sapphire's known for being one of the better AMD graphics card partners. Their Dual-X cooler isn't amazing, but it's not bad either. According to this review, it'll get up to 72 degrees when running Furmark. Furmark is supposed to stress the graphics card quite hard, so I'd imagine it'd be somewhere in the 60 degree range when playing most games.

The next step up from the R9 380 is indeed the R9 390, or the GTX 970 if you want to cross over to Nvidia's side.

I'm looking to build my first homemade PC in 1-2 months. My current pc is a 5-6 year old laptop and my console is a ps4. I will need get everything but an optical drive as I already have a bluray drive and a couple of external usb 2.0 hard drives. I should also note I am much more comfortable with a controller for games than a m/k and don't want a huge case.
The PC will be used for gaming (GTA,Batman,Tomb Raider, and Witcher type games) and watching/streaming HD movies. It's going to be connected to a 1080p TV for the next 1-2 years max then its on to 4k.
As far as How important is PhysX / SuperSampling / CUDA to you? I don't know what any of that means??? I guess I want to run games as close to max as possible while getting 60fps. I would like to spend less than $900 US. Thanks

I'd recommend coming back to us about a week or two before you plan to buy and build. I can give you a parts list as a example and general guideline, but the prices will be out of date by the time you are ready to build. Will you be using a dualshock 4 with your PC or will the budget for your new PC also have to include a controller? Will you need the PC to have wifi connectivity? Will you also need a copy of Windows?

When you upgrade to a 4K display, you will also need to upgrade the graphics card to give you decent framerates for 4K gaming. Keeping that in mind, I'll recommend a decent graphics card for 1080p60 gameplay for now.

Here's an example build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX200 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($62.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($319.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case ($34.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $818.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-14 22:30 EST-0500

It's this one: And no, I will not overclock (as I even know where to start). If there is anything else you should know, let me know.

That's a decent sized case, you don't really have much to worry about, you won't even need an aftermarket CPU cooler unless you don't mind getting one for lower load temperatures and a bit quieter fan noise. Well, $500 is quite a lot for just a processor, motherboard, and maybe a CPU cooler. This will suit you just fine if you don't need the ability to overclock:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($50.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $293.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-14 22:47 EST-0500

Or if you don't mind spending up to $500 and a bit over, maybe go with brand new Skylake parts including RAM and CPU cooler.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($119.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $519.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-14 22:51 EST-0500
 

RGM79

Member
Most modern AAA games at 1080p. Not really gunning for 4k or high refresh rate stuff right now, so I'll be sticking with switching between my 1080p monitor and 1080p TV.

I'm slowly hammering out a build I like, so give me your honest opinion on this:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N4VHP6

edit: also have zero intention of overclocking

It's not exactly the best for price to performance, and you could opt for a cheaper processor and motherboard if you won't be overclocking. For example, this build will offer you a lot more for your money.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($50.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($147.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($629.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1316.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-14 22:41 EST-0500

The processor and power supply are slightly lower end, but everything else is much better and overall should perform better than your build will. The Xeon with a GTX 980 Ti shouldn't have any trouble beating a i7 4790K and GTX 980.

Or if you like, you can mix and match parts of my build with yours. I'd recommend taking the higher end graphics card and cheaper case, power supply, hard drive, and SSD.

I am looking for a new PC. This will be my main machine, that I will use mainly for heavy web browsing, but also for medium video editing/Photoshop, and light gaming. Can anyone help me build, and give me a few options for the price? My max is about $600. Is the following possible for this price?

Here are my must haves-
small/tiny case - size of an Optiplex small form factor, or smaller/tiny (NUC)

Motherboard- whatever works well with all other components. Must have at least one USB3.0 port, and a few USB2 ports. HDMI out is preferable. VGA port also would be nice.

Power supply/Heatsink- whatever works well, shouldn't be too loud though.

CPU- Intel i5 or i7, at least 4 core, 5th or 6th gen. As high as possible. Whatever I can get for the price.

solid state drive- 120 GB or more

storage drive (HDD)- 500 GB or more, preferably WD brand

RAM- 16GB. 32 would be awesome

Graphics card- any decent one, nothing fancy. Don't need all effects on when playing my older games.

Sound card- any decent one, nothing fancy.

DVD/CD burner- not needed, since I have an external, but would be great if any extra money leftover.

OS- Not needed, but a Windows 10 license would be great if any extra money leftover.

keyboard/mouse- not needed

monitor- not needed

I am heavily looking at getting an Intel NUC kit with the i5-5250 cpu, and just adding the drives and RAM. Would this be a good alternative? The graphics situation on one of these is not good, so I'm hoping if I build something from scratch, it will get me better components. I could also wait until the 6th gen i5 NUCs come out next month for the better CPU, but the price will be higher.
Thanks everyone!

All that for $600 is a tall order. I can put together a barebones parts list that is capable of that - go with less RAM for now, just a single hard drive, etc, then add the rest later. A NUC is definitely an option, but if you want more processing power and upgradability, a mITX build is the way to go.

Just so you know what it costs like, here's what can be had for $600. It's kinda barebones but functional.. except it's missing a storage drive.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H170M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone ML08B HTPC Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Silverstone 600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($117.99 @ Directron)
Total: $610.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-14 23:01 EST-0500

It'd be possible to save money if you didn't mind making more concessions like going with a 4th generation Intel processor or a slightly larger PC. I have a Dell Optiplex 390 sitting next to me so I have an idea of the kind of size you want, but to get something close to that size can be difficult and/or expensive... A 5th generation broadwell processor is completely out of the question as they're ridiculously expensive and seemingly short of supply.
 
I was wondering if someone could advise me about replacing my i7-930 with a Xeon x5650. I would use it primarily for gaming. Fallout 4, Witcher 3, and Dark Souls III would be the games (in the immediate future) I would be playing. Would probably be a net expense of $50 between buying the x5650 and selling the 930.

Should I pull the trigger?
 

AngerdX

Member
Hi, i´m looking at doing an upgrade and looking at 2 options where the only diffrence is the MB, same price either way.

Intel® Core™ i7-6700K 4,0Ghz
ASUS Z170-A
Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR4
Cooler Master Hyper 212

or

Intel Core i7-6700K 4,0Ghz
Crucial Sport DDR4 16GB
Gigabyte GA-Z170X-GAMING 3
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

leaning towards the second option, would appreciate some thoughts on the MBs.

Thanks

Edit: Just found out the second option gives me a 25$ cashback for upgrading to that gigabyte board, so easy choice now.
 

RGM79

Member
Hi, i´m looking at doing an upgrade and looking at 2 options where the only diffrence is the MB, same price either way.

Intel® Core™ i7-6700K 4,0Ghz
ASUS Z170-A
Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR4
Cooler Master Hyper 212

or

Intel Core i7-6700K 4,0Ghz
Crucial Sport DDR4 16GB
Gigabyte GA-Z170X-GAMING 3
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

leaning towards the second option, would appreciate some thoughts on the MBs.

Thanks

The Gigabyte model seems to have better reviews. The Asus model has some common complaints about the BIOS and high speed RAM compatibility, if you look at the Newegg user reviews (sort by lowest rated).
 

AngerdX

Member
The Gigabyte model seems to have better reviews. The Asus model has some common complaints about the BIOS and high speed RAM compatibility, if you look at the Newegg user reviews (sort by lowest rated).

Yah thanks, and ordered, now to the part we all hate, the waiting.
 
Is there any mini-itx case that rivals the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv that's not the m1 or the Prodigy or the 250D?

Thinking about pulling the trigger on that one.
 
So...uh...I don't know if I can post this here but,

after Win 8.1 -> Win 10 upgrade my Office 2013 Pro Plus isn't activated anymore.
I bought the license via B/S/T thread (same method as r/microsoftsoftwareswap).
My guess is it's an "overactivation" problem or something? Any way to fix this? :/
 
So...uh...I don't know if I can post this here but,

after Win 8.1 -> Win 10 upgrade my Office 2013 Pro Plus isn't activated anymore.
I bought the license via B/S/T thread (same method as r/microsoftsoftwareswap).
My guess is it's an "overactivation" problem or something? Any way to fix this? :/

I don't know exactly but I imagine contacting Microsoft would work. There's probably some number or something to call in the activation window.
 
I don't know exactly but I imagine contacting Microsoft would work. There's probably some number or something to call in the activation window.
Tried the phone activation (via MS automated phone number), didn't work.
"The number you entered appears to be invalid. You may be a victim of software counterfeit" bla bla...
Guess I was goofed. >(
God dammit. Now I see the guy I bought the key from is banned.
Well, sometimes things are too good to be true.
$50 down the drain. Fuck.
 

RGM79

Member
So...uh...I don't know if I can post this here but,

after Win 8.1 -> Win 10 upgrade my Office 2013 Pro Plus isn't activated anymore.
I bought the license via B/S/T thread (same method as r/microsoftsoftwareswap).
My guess is it's an "overactivation" problem or something? Any way to fix this? :/
Can't you input the key again and have it reactivate?

Edit: never mind.
 

LilJoka

Member
Im gonna go with pc specialist. Its the same cpu, gpu, motherboard combo that you posted from scan and has better memory if i recall correctly. Same 250ssd and 1tb hard drive and comes with windows 10. It is not over clocked and can be had for £1035 which is actually more than 100 cheaper than scan when you upgrade the cooling needed for the overclock. I could even upgrade to 16gb of ram and be cheaper still, would I get much a difference with 16 over 8? This is strictly a gaming machine....

Can you send the exact part list?
 

ISee

Member
I just ran a scan with Norton and nothing comes up. It's happened twice, neither of which I was doing anything CPU intensive. I ran a "Clean-up" on Norton because I got an alert that I recommended I should. I'm hoping that'll help?

Sometimes only a fresh install is going to help. Not saying that you have to from the beginning or that maleware is 100% your problem.

1.) Clean your heatsinks etc from dust. (But I somehow doubt this problem is caused by overheating).

2.) Try to run your PC with all USB devices unplugged but Keyboard and mouse for obvious reasons. If the same problem still occurs try to plug in another mouse and keyboard (just for testing reasons) and/or try other usb2 ports..

3.) If you have any kind of additional cards in your PC like a soundcard etc, deinstall them and plug them out one by one.

If nothing helps a fresh install will be necessary just to rule out faulty drivers, maleware etc.If this keeps on happening after a fresh install. Then your hardware is faulty. I'd start with the PSU then the mobo etc.
 

Veal

Member
I just ran a scan with Norton and nothing comes up. It's happened twice, neither of which I was doing anything CPU intensive. I ran a "Clean-up" on Norton because I got an alert that I recommended I should. I'm hoping that'll help?
If you are over clocked, make sure you are stable! I had some problems manifest over time with an unstable overclock, one being system freezes and locks.
 
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