Aztechnology
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Oh wait hold up I think I misunderstood. I thought you were saying you're getting two of the same kits. You definitely want two sticks of ram just grab a single 2x8GB set.
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Oh wait hold up I think I misunderstood. I thought you were saying you're getting two of the same kits. You definitely want two sticks of ram just grab a single 2x8GB set.
Bloodember
Member
Motherboard is not compatible, you need an x99 using socket 2011. If your going to spend this kind of money just get a 1080.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Sorry, I meant two sets, not sticks. I used the wrong wording there. I'll just get one set of RAM. =P
So would this work?
http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=107790&vpn=X99A GAMING 7&manufacture=MSI
And is MSI a good motherboard manufacturer? Would that motherboard be good/reliable?
There's also this one from Gigabyte:
http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=106300&vpn=GA-X99-SOC Champion&manufacture=Gigabyte
Otherwise, is it not compatible because of the number of hard drives/SSDs? I may just remove some/most of them then and upgrade the storage.
As far as the 1070 vs the 1080, I'll make that decision when I go to purchase the thing. Right now the 1080 isn't in stock, and I'm not sure how fast NCIXUS will restock.
Hello everyone! I am thinking of creating my first PC build later this year but I found a deal.
http://slickdeals.net/f/8940831-newegg-coupon-additional-savings-w-paypal-checkout-25-off-200
Would an I5-6500 for around $180 be a good deal? Should I wait for Black Friday instead, or should I bite now? If I buy this the other parts will have to wait until I have the budget haha.
Anyways this is my preliminary part list. My budget is $600-700, and I have a monitor, mouse, and I hope I can transfer my Windows 10 (upgraded from Windows 7 retail key) from my Macbook Pro's bootcamp to the new PC.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/sbVkd6
I am undecided between RX 480 and 470 but I really just want to be able to play Overwatch and other RTS games well. I don't need 4K or VR, and I think going Nintendo NX and PC for next gen gaming would be the best for me. I think 1080p 60fps would satisfy my needs for quite some time.
Thanks!
FYI I have a PS4, so I do not plan on playing multiplatform games on PC except OW, Rocket League, and other games my friends play like SC2 and whatnot.
http://slickdeals.net/f/8940831-newegg-coupon-additional-savings-w-paypal-checkout-25-off-200
Would an I5-6500 for around $180 be a good deal? Should I wait for Black Friday instead, or should I bite now? If I buy this the other parts will have to wait until I have the budget haha.
Anyways this is my preliminary part list. My budget is $600-700, and I have a monitor, mouse, and I hope I can transfer my Windows 10 (upgraded from Windows 7 retail key) from my Macbook Pro's bootcamp to the new PC.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/sbVkd6
I am undecided between RX 480 and 470 but I really just want to be able to play Overwatch and other RTS games well. I don't need 4K or VR, and I think going Nintendo NX and PC for next gen gaming would be the best for me. I think 1080p 60fps would satisfy my needs for quite some time.
Thanks!
FYI I have a PS4, so I do not plan on playing multiplatform games on PC except OW, Rocket League, and other games my friends play like SC2 and whatnot.
Bloodember
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Got for the Gigabyte one. MSI is crap in my opinion.
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
The 6800k is compatible with that motherboard, the 6700k is not if you go with that, that's compatible with the one you originally picked.
I'd go with gigabyte or EVGA for motherboards though on x99.
WetPotatoBread
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Hey guys, in 2 months I will be building my first PC and I wanted to know your opinion on my spec list:
1.Do you guys think it is a good idea to go with a 1440p 144hz monitor with a 1070?
2. How much cheaper do you guys think the components will get between now and in 2 months?
3. Should I get a different monitor?I've heard mix results on the one I choose when it comes to quality control.
1.Do you guys think it is a good idea to go with a 1440p 144hz monitor with a 1070?
2. How much cheaper do you guys think the components will get between now and in 2 months?
3. Should I get a different monitor?I've heard mix results on the one I choose when it comes to quality control.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Ok, so I can either go for a build that has the best parts, or I can go for this -- this is from parts all in stock at NCIXUS so would this build be just as good -- in other words, would it play all the latest games, VR, and be future proof for a good while (I also may help someone with video editing too)?
CPU
Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler
Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard
Asus X99-DELUXE II ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard
Or maybe (?):
GIGABYTE X99 Phoenix SLI ATX Motherboard
Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage
Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Samsung 850 EVO 2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card
Case
Corsair 760T White V2 ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply
Corsair 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive
Asus BW-16D1HT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit
Sound Card
Asus Xonar DX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card
The only thing about this is the notes regarding compatibility on PC Partpicker: "Some Intel X99 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Broadwell-E CPUs."
I'm sure NCIXUS would probably take care of that though when they build it. So how does this build look compared to the other one? All the parts are available, I could take a hit in power, but I think I like this motherboard the most as long as everything is compatible. I also know I'm going overboard with the SSD/HDD space, but I may as well use my games for the 2TB SSD, the 250GB can house the OS, and the 4TB HDD can just be for general storage.
CPU
Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler
Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard
Asus X99-DELUXE II ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard
Or maybe (?):
GIGABYTE X99 Phoenix SLI ATX Motherboard
Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage
Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Samsung 850 EVO 2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card
Case
Corsair 760T White V2 ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply
Corsair 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive
Asus BW-16D1HT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit
Sound Card
Asus Xonar DX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card
The only thing about this is the notes regarding compatibility on PC Partpicker: "Some Intel X99 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Broadwell-E CPUs."
I'm sure NCIXUS would probably take care of that though when they build it. So how does this build look compared to the other one? All the parts are available, I could take a hit in power, but I think I like this motherboard the most as long as everything is compatible. I also know I'm going overboard with the SSD/HDD space, but I may as well use my games for the 2TB SSD, the 250GB can house the OS, and the 4TB HDD can just be for general storage.
Bloodember
Member
The Gigabyte x99 phoenix would be the one I go with. You should be good for a while for games and vr will work no problem. Yes NCIXUS would do the bios update, they will make sure everything is running before they ship it, I believe.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Awesome, thanks!
Here is the other build that I would go with if everything is compatible. I may wait for this build if everything is, but if not then I'll just go with the lesser powerful one. I figure if I'm going to spend this much money, I may try and just go with the top of the line. I haven't bought a PC in 7 years so it's about time.
This should hopefully be the last time I ask this. Thank you to everyone who has answered and helped me. I know nothing about computer parts, which is why I'm afraid to spend this much and have something not be compatible. >_>
CPU
Intel Core I7-6700 Processor 8M Cache 4GHZ Turbo FC-LGA1151 Retail Box Skylake
CPU Cooler
Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard
ASUS 2170-Deluxe ATX LGA1151 Z170 Skylake DDR4 3PCI-E16 Crossfire/SLI SATA3 USB3.1 HDMI Motherboard
Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage
Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Samsung 850 EVO 2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 1721/1860 MHz 8GB GDDR5X SLI G-SYNC Ansel VR Graphics Card
Case
Corsair 760T White V2 ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply
Corsair 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive
Asus BW-16D1HT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit
Sound Card
Asus Xonar DX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card
If the sound card or a hard drive/SSD is too much for the motherboard, I'll just get the parts to fit the motherboard and whatnot (I.e. remove them) rather than the other way around this time.
Bloodember
Member
This one is the less powerful one, except for the video card. It looks good though, up to you which one you want to go with. If it were me I'd go with the x99 platform and get a 1080 with it.
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
If going for gaming which i think he is, the 6700k is faster as most games utilize a single thread. So it would be better, especially if he cranks it to 4.5Ghz
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
So if I switch the CPU to Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor and the motherboard to GIGABYTE X99 Phoenix SLI ATX Motherboard and I should be great as far as power/reliability/compatibility?
I am going for gaming, so keep the 6700, but switch to X99?
lostsupper
Banned
You want the 6700k, not the 6700.
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
go for the 6700K, it will be faster for gaming over the 6800K because it has faster single threaded performance.
6700k does not run on 2011 v3 socket / x99 chipset. do not go to 2011 socket/x99 chipset enthusiast platform if you plan on gaming mostly/exclusively, its over kill for the cause, and will not get you as much performance. you want an LGA1151 socket Z170 board that matches your needs in connectivity and features.
Get the 6700k on a decent board with features/connectivy you want, with solid power delivery, crank it up to 4.5Ghz and your good to go for many years to come.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
I mistyped -- I meant the 6700k =D
So this motherboard, essentially?
ASUS 2170-Deluxe ATX LGA1151 Z170 Skylake DDR4 3PCI-E16 Crossfire/SLI SATA3 USB3.1 HDMI Motherboard
Or
ASUS TUF Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1 ATX Skylake LGA1151 DDR4 3PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 USB3.1 Motherboard
Or this one maybe?
ASUS TUF Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1 ATX Skylake LGA1151 DDR4 3PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 USB3.1 Motherboard
Ok, so for simplicity's sake, I think I'm going to go with this build as long as everything looks good:
CPU
Intel Core I7-6700 Processor 8M Cache 4GHZ Turbo FC-LGA1151 Retail Box Skylake
CPU Cooler
Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard
ASUS 2170-Deluxe ATX LGA1151 Z170 Skylake DDR4 3PCI-E16 Crossfire/SLI SATA3 USB3.1 HDMI Motherboard
Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage
Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Samsung 850 EVO 2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 1721/1860 MHz 8GB GDDR5X SLI G-SYNC Ansel VR Graphics Card
Case
Corsair 760T White V2 ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply
Corsair 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive
Asus BW-16D1HT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit
Sound Card
Asus Xonar DX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card
I might add two case fans to it, but aside from that, this will likely be my final build.
And lastly, thank you everyone again for helping me with this. I am totally lost when it comes to computer parts, so I really appreciate everyone's help. This will hopefully be the beginning of my learning about computer parts and being able to eventually build one/upgrade this one myself. I'll finally be able to get rid of my laptop that now sounds like an airplane taking off everytime I boot it up and keep it on.
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
Yes just makes sure you get the unlocked version the 6700k, and you push it to 4.5GHz or your doing it wrong.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Is this the unlocked version?
http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=111156&vpn=BX80662I76700K&manufacture=Intel
That's pretty much the only one I can get because I want NCIXUS to build it for me.
I also think I'm going with this motherboard now. The motherboard was always tricky for me, because I want one that's reliable first and foremost:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128835
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, i should probably ask what games to you plan on playing, and what types?
Fimbulvetr
Member
Any chance this'll be coming back around? I missed it sadly.
There isn't, but a few of us have done it and you can ask your questions here. Or there is a tonne of info at overclock.net
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Right now, it's just WoW, maybe a little TOR, Overwatch (pretty much all Blizzard games), but Star Citizen (if it ever releases), Witcher 3, and other, more graphically intensive games will probably also be played. VR is the other thing that I'm planning to do with it.
I'll probably play Gears 4 on Xbox Play Anywhere, for instance.
Hey guys I'm having a weird thing going on right now. For some reason, everytime I press either "B" or "N' on my keyboard, Google Chrome will refresh the page. As if I'm pressing F5. Any idea what's going on? I literally had to write this text on notepad and copy+paste to get this message across. Otherwise I would have refreshed the page.
Edit: For some reason it stopped doing that after rebooting my computer many times.
Edit: For some reason it stopped doing that after rebooting my computer many times.
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
Only thing that might, MIGHT benefit from a 6800k slightly is SC. Usually games that utilize more threads are RTS, some racing games, Battlefield games, and games that use physics that aren't Physx based or utilize GPU based rendering. So i think you will probably be OK.
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
you can ask here, or go over to overclock.net as kennah mentioned.
Soltype
Member
Ok cool, is it better to get a kit or to get the parts yourself?Also how do you gauge how many radiators or pumps you need?
It's really up to you. It's a personal thing to do. Figure you need at least 3x120 for a CPU and GPU to be kept at a reasonable temperature. If you have a huge case you could use a 360mm rad, or you could use a 120 and a 240, or you could use 2x240s.
Look up your case on overclock.net to see what others have done in your place to get ideas.
Aztechnology
Member
You can usw the code PP2016BTS at checkout on Newegg (orders over $200) to get $25 off.
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
Rule is usually a 120 for every component+something for a little head room. So if im cooling a CPU, and 2 GPUs a 480 rad is usually a good one to go to. Although Some will break it into two loops to separate heat sources and cool the CPU separately with a 240 rads and the GPUs with a 360 rad, and so on.
Pumps there are really 2 kinds unless you go to aquacomputer which is really kind of a crap pump you have a D5 and DCC pump. what the difference is DCC has more head pressure, to simplify it, its going to push water harder. DCC usually requires extra cooling which it usually comes with a passive cooler. D5s are generally more quiet and moves more water. You only need one or the other and just one of them unless you have a ridiculous loop. Alot of people these days however are using pumps in parallel like im using EKs xtop (totally not needed) for redundancy, it usually adds more head pressure.
So generally one pump for basic loops (i try to keep 1-1.5GPM for a flowrate you alright, but there is really no consensus on optimal flow rate), and follow the rules of radiators.
Good motherboard ive had nothing but trouble with ASUS
Soltype
Member
Thanks for help, I going to ease my way into this.I'll hopefully have it setup by years end.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
What about this one?
http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=126048&promoid=1373
I couldn't find that one from Newegg on NCIXUS
Bloodember
Member
That one's fine.
FYI there's nothing wrong with Asus either, I've used them for years without any issues, as with Gigabyte.
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
If you need any help at all don't be afraid to PM me for anything. if I can't help you I know people who can.
flipswitch
Member
Is there a difference in using 4x16GB memory or 2x8GB memory? Like peformance or reliability wise?
And memory speeds, worth spending extra for faster ram, or is the difference unnoticeable?
And memory speeds, worth spending extra for faster ram, or is the difference unnoticeable?
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
Go 2x8. I don't know if hardware is still like this but I still practice it, back when i had an SR-2 it was common not to fill all the dimm slots. The IMC Gets stressed, and it would reduce the amount we could overclock our cpu stabily. That may have changed, someone can confirm, for me it's old habits.
Memory speeds don't matter as much as timing and latency.
TheGoddamn
Member
Thanks! I just got back from getting the 1060.
It's crazy that these beat the AIB 480s to market, and that they're cheaper too.
I did not go 480
The Zotac super compact was actually available for the 1060 this morning and my build overall became a $600 build which seems to be the sweetspot for budget PC's.
I did up the Power Supply from 500 to 550 since the one you linked jumped in price. The 550 was still modular, corsair and exactly the same as the original price you gave me.
So the build ended up like this
Rosewill Dual Fan Micro ATX Mini Tower - $27.99
i3-6100 - $118
Gigabyte LGA1151 - $50
Corsair 550W - $60
Hyper X Fury 8GB DDR4 - $40
PNY 240GB SSD CS1311 - $64
Zotac GTX 1060 Super Compact $250
$610 before taxes
about $650 due to tax and shipping
It WOULD have been under $600 if it wasn't for AMD not knowing how to stock their fucking cards and all AIBs earlier. They fucked up, their miss
overall very happy
TheVoidDragon
Member
Anyone have any idea how good a Transcend StoreJet 25M3 would be regarding reliability/failure rates? I've had quick look and couldn't see anything about them. Trying to decide between that, a HGST Touro Mobile MX3 and a Toshiba HDTB310EK3AA 1 TB Canvio Basics.
for that price on the Toshiba
grab this
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TKFEE5S/?tag=neogaf0e-20
It's probably one of the best on the market and is the same drive used in the samsung portables and even some of their internal HDD
TheVoidDragon
Member
I was under the impression that Seagate drives tend to be unreliable and fail quite often. That's far more expensive here (the UK) than the 1TB Canvio basics, though.
I did a bunch of research and decided to install the two Cougar Vortex fans to the top of the case to help remove warm air from the case.
Played BF4 at 1080p for about an hour or so switching between 100%-150% resolution. From the results the test I see temps drop a few degrees across the board besides the GPU. I'm still seeing the GPU reach 83c, is too high IMO.
I can swap out the card for a Gigabyte 1070 G1 card for $40 extra or try swapping out the case to see if that has any impact on cooling. Anyone have any suggestions? I'm willing to switch to the Gigabyte card if it's a good card and it would be easier to swap out the GPU than put everything in a new case.
Thoughts? Thanks.
Played BF4 at 1080p for about an hour or so switching between 100%-150% resolution. From the results the test I see temps drop a few degrees across the board besides the GPU. I'm still seeing the GPU reach 83c, is too high IMO.
I can swap out the card for a Gigabyte 1070 G1 card for $40 extra or try swapping out the case to see if that has any impact on cooling. Anyone have any suggestions? I'm willing to switch to the Gigabyte card if it's a good card and it would be easier to swap out the GPU than put everything in a new case.
Thoughts? Thanks.
shiftplusone
Member
I have posted here a lot in the last few days, but just as a summary:
I am building a 2nd pc for my wife, with the idea that she'll get some of my shit passed down to her.
I currently have a 980 ti.
The microcenter in my area has the ASUS strix overclocked 1070 for 439.
Is that a good price? I know it's a below average - average upgrade for me personally but it'll be a better long term solution for her and she'll get her GPU now instead of in a year when the 1080ti comes out and she gets my 980.
thoughts? too much for not enough gain(even though the ti will still be used?)
I am building a 2nd pc for my wife, with the idea that she'll get some of my shit passed down to her.
I currently have a 980 ti.
The microcenter in my area has the ASUS strix overclocked 1070 for 439.
Is that a good price? I know it's a below average - average upgrade for me personally but it'll be a better long term solution for her and she'll get her GPU now instead of in a year when the 1080ti comes out and she gets my 980.
thoughts? too much for not enough gain(even though the ti will still be used?)
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Man I really want a Lapdog; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BXmFCVKaCE
not even for gaming but just browsing in bed. Using a cable for the monitor, and a secondary HDMI cable going from the computer into a big HDTV.
not even for gaming but just browsing in bed. Using a cable for the monitor, and a secondary HDMI cable going from the computer into a big HDTV.
Newegg? Amazon? Just do a search for them.
Oh well. Do what you gotta do! Good snag on the 1060. I think you'll be more than happy with that set up.
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