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"I Need a New PC!" 2016 Plus Ultra! HBM2, VR, 144Hz, and 4K for all!

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Bloodember

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Adamator

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I have that. What would I be checking?

I ran Prime for awhile and my results some odd. I am getting low to mid 50s. Seems to me that my idle temps seem high, but my load temps are on the low side. Seems I am safely in limits in any case.

I was also just thinking my PC is set to "Performance" in Power settings in Windows 7.

Are my temps ok?
 
I have that. What would I be checking?

I ran Prime for awhile and my results some odd. I am getting low to mid 50s. Seems to me that my idle temps seem high, but my load temps are on the low side. Seems I am safely in limits in any case.

I was also just thinking my PC is set to "Performance" in Power settings in Windows 7.

Next to the performance setting there should be "change plan settings."

CLick it and go to advance settings

Processor power management

Then change the lower processor state to whatever you want. When you are at idle, it will lower the clocks and voltage. If you are using your cpu for gaming, it will be 100%.

If you are super into overclocking, you can just skip this though because the fluctuations can cause instability if you are pushing your system to the limits. I'm talking serious overclocking though.
 
Reposting this from the 1080 thread since it got buried...

So I just had a couple of windfalls within the past month and am debating on what my next major PC purchase should be. I basically have $700 to spend and trying to figure out what would be the best bang for my buck on the following:

1) A second Gigabyte GTX 1080 G1 (which I would have to find / wait for stock online) for SLI.

2) A G-Sync gaming monitor (preferably some combo of 4K, widescreen, 144hz).

3) A VR rig, either Oculus or Vive (haven't done the research on which is better).

What say you, Gaf? The rest of my rig is pretty decent. CPU is an i7-6700K, mobo is Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 7, 16GB of DDR4 ram, yadda yadda.
 

JaseC

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Are my temps ok?

<50-60: Ideal
60-70: Fine
70-80: Acceptable
80+: Action recommended

My 6800K (the Intel one, not the AMD one -- it baffles me that Intel didn't name it the 6820K instead) hits ~75 at full load (4.3GHz, 1.344v), so I'll probably invest in a Corsair H115i and a couple of Noctua NF-A14 3000s when the weather begins to warm up here in Australia. I initially considered going the whole hog and putting together a custom water cooling setup, but the more I ponder it, the more I think it'll be too much maintenance for my liking, plus I most definitely don't have the room in my NZXT H630, so I'd need to move up to something even bigger, such as the Corsair 900D or perhaps the Phanteks Enthoo Primo Ultimate and both are rather pricey despite the ~$170 difference.
 
For good performances (and a 1070), if i don't want to do OC, is 6700 + H170 good or should i ho 6700 + Z170?

PS: why ASUS price is higher than MSI/Asrcok? Worth the increase?
 

kuYuri

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Reposting this from the 1080 thread since it got buried...

Go for the monitor, although there is no 4K 144hz monitors, not that you would ever reach those kinds of framerates at 4K anyway. 4K60hz is the best there is currently. Alternatively, go for 1440p/144 or 165hz monitors, which is the sweet spot for the 1080.
 
Gsync monitor IMHO. If possible, 1440p 144hz IPS.

Especially if you're currently on 1080p/60.

I'm looking for a 1440p/144hz/IPS/Gsynch monitor, too.

The ASUS ROG Swift looks really awesome, but I got a bit scared after all those messages about BLB and IPS glow. Still worth a shot? Alternatives?
 

Trigg

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Ok I'll look into it with the DRAM. Cheers. I kept getting a blue screen error about IRQL not less or equal. So I upped the voltage in the CPU to 1.275 at 4.4ghz. Should I increase this to 1.3? The error appeared on a boot and then as soon as I ran prime95. When I upped it to 1.275 the first worker failed almost immediately in prime95.

Yeah I couldn't figure out how to see it to sit at normal setting a when idle. The offset mode just over rides the manual voltage I nominate.

I'll look for bluescreen codes, use bluescreenview to see what the last 3 digits are.

0. Update your UEFI.

1. Manually set your cache ratio and ram to stock. Don't even use XMP profiles. Hell, turn your GPU's overclock off.

2. All Skylake CPUs so far can hit 4.4GHz. Try 4.4GHz at ~1.35v. It should work and be stable. If not, apply 1.4v. Stable? Good.

3. Just go up a multiplier. Increase voltage if you crash during stress testing with our x264 test. Remember, recommended maximum voltage is 1.45v. Never run a stress test and leave without monitoring the temperatures for the first 2 minutes.

You won't hit 4.4 at 1.275 unless you have a golden chip. Don't go over 1.45.

Also whats your LLC setting?

This tweaktown article may be more detailed and easy to follow.

http://www.tweaktown.com/guides/7481/tweaktowns-ultimate-intel-skylake-overclocking-guide/index.html

They have a gigabyte section, not sure if your uefi is the same, but the LLC section should help. Looks any LLC is fine.

http://www.tweaktown.com/guides/748...intel-skylake-overclocking-guide/index13.html
 
Gsync monitor IMHO. If possible, 1440p 144hz IPS.
Especially if you're currently on 1080p/60.

Go for the monitor, although there is no 4K 144hz monitors, not that you would ever reach those kinds of framerates at 4K anyway. 4K60hz is the best there is currently. Alternatively, go for 1440p/144 or 165hz monitors, which is the sweet spot for the 1080.

No question a 1440p G-sync IPS monitor imo. Specifically the Acer XB271HU or Asus PG279Q.

Thanks guys. I'll do some research and keep following this thread. :)
 

ISee

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For good performances (and a 1070), if i don't want to do OC, is 6700 + H170 good or should i ho 6700 + Z170?

PS: why ASUS price is higher than MSI/Asrcok? Worth the increase?

The h170 is a stripped down z170. It has fewer PCI-E lanes (still more than enough for your gpu though), no sli, no overclocking, less hsio lanes and does not support XMP for Ram.

So yes overall it is the worse mb chipset. Is it a deal breaker though? No, not really and if you really don't care about overclocking, a raid setup, extension cards etc. than the h170 may be the mb chipset you're looking for.
 

BashNasty

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After recently completing my new high-end 1080gtx build, I'm looking for a high end pair of wireless headphones to go with it. From the research I've done so far it seems that the Steelseries Siberia 800 headphones are highly praised.

What's the thought on those headphones here? Worth the cash, or could I find an even better high end option if I spent a little more?
 
The h170 is a stripped down z170. It has fewer PCI-E lanes (still more than enough for your gpu though), no sli, no overclocking, less hsio lanes and does not support XMP for Ram.

So yes overall it is the worse mb chipset. Is it a deal breaker though? No, not really and if you really don't care about overclocking, a raid setup, extension cards etc. than the h170 may be the mb chipset you're looking for.

Thank you. Yes, my approach to pc gaming is very console-like so i think it's the best choice for me.

Another question, is a 650 W still enough for a gtx 1070 + i7 6700?
 

Iced

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I can't get my new G Skill Ripjaws V 3000 MHz DDR4 to actually hit 3000 MHz. I'm on a GA-Z170XP-SLI motherboard with latest firmware. When I activate XMP in bios, it attempts to reboot a couple of times before finally telling me that it failed to boot and to try stock settings. It runs at 2133 MHz.

I got it for a pretty good price so I'm not overly concerned that I'm not hitting 3000, but is there anything I can do? I haven't attempted any overclocking yet (although I will be doing so soon to my i7 6700k). Have only had my build up and running since yesterday.
 

ISee

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Thank you. Yes, my approach to pc gaming is very console-like so i think it's the best choice for me.

Another question, is a 650 W still enough for a gtx 1070 + i7 6700?

That's more than enough.

I can't get my new G Skill Ripjaws V 3000 MHz DDR4 to actually hit 3000 MHz. I'm on a GA-Z170XP-SLI motherboard with latest firmware. When I activate XMP in bios, it attempts to reboot a couple of times before finally telling me that it failed to boot and to try stock settings. It runs at 2133 MHz.

I got it for a pretty good price so I'm not overly concerned that I'm not hitting 3000, but is there anything I can do? I haven't attempted any overclocking yet (although I will be doing so soon to my i7 6700k). Have only had my build up and running since yesterday.

Don't even bother in this case. Bring the ram back and demand a new kit.
 

Adamator

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Next to the performance setting there should be "change plan settings."

CLick it and go to advance settings

Processor power management

Then change the lower processor state to whatever you want. When you are at idle, it will lower the clocks and voltage. If you are using your cpu for gaming, it will be 100%.

If you are super into overclocking, you can just skip this though because the fluctuations can cause instability if you are pushing your system to the limits. I'm talking serious overclocking though.

Thank you for the reply and assistance. My concern was that my idle temps seem on the high side but my load temps seems good. Is that a normal thing to happen?

My computer isn't primarily for gaming but I will do it occasionally. This is my first completely new computer in over 6 years and my intention was to build a solid computer that will last me.

I don't really overclock but I couldn't resist playing around with my new computer. I over locked the CPU to 4.4 ghz. My old Q6600 was 2.4 so I was like "let's make this one 2ghz more exactly."

Overclocking was just changing the multiplayer, simple enough. I have a Gigabyte board and they make it pretty easy. But going from 4.0 to 4.4 made my temps jump almost 10 degrees under load which didn't thrill me. I'd like to keep the over clock but not if its going to risk anything. Is there ways to cool down an over clock besides simply better cooling?

I will post some temps tonight for you to see.
 
Anybody have experience with one of the Couchmaster things?

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I'm looking for a good couch solution for KBaM for when my Steam Controller doesn't cut it.
 

BizzyBum

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I have a weird issue.

I bought a new 4K monitor and hooked it up to my 1080 via the DP port.

Everything boots up fine but once Windows 10 starts up it works for a bit but then whatever I do completely locks up Windows and my mouse has the infinite loading icon. Nothing works and I have to do a hard reset.

How can I fix this?

Hm, happened with my old monitor just now, too. It's a 1440p. Had it for years and this is the first time it's ever happened.

This makes no sense. Perhaps a Windows issue with that new Anniversary update?
 
Before I buy, I want to run it by the wizards at GAF

NewEgg has refurbished 2TB HDDs for only $30. They were manufactured as early as 2010 and as late as 2013, and many were in constant use, while many were never used

Doing a new build, would it be a good idea to buy 3 of these things and have them running in RAID5? I also have a 1TB SSD that my games and Windows will be on, so the 4TB will just be for storage and less frequently played games. I'm thinking the RAID5 will be good enough if any of those drives fail, so as long as all three don't fail at the same time. I figure I need at least 3TB storage with redundancy so 3 2TB drives is cheaper than 2 3TB drives with mirroring.

I will of course do SMART drive tests on an enclosure as soon as I get them to make sure there arent any bad sectors. NewEgg apparently has been good with the RMA process.

Also, I'm in the market for a good looking case that can fit 4 HDDs, but I would guess thats for another thread... right?
 

OneUh8

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Before I buy, I want to run it by the wizards at GAF

NewEgg has refurbished 2TB HDDs for only $30. They were manufactured as early as 2010 and as late as 2013, and many were in constant use, while many were never used

Doing a new build, would it be a good idea to buy 3 of these things and have them running in RAID5? I also have a 1TB SSD that my games and Windows will be on, so the 4TB will just be for storage and less frequently played games. I'm thinking the RAID5 will be good enough if any of those drives fail, so as long as all three don't fail at the same time. I figure I need at least 3TB storage with redundancy so 3 2TB drives is cheaper than 2 3TB drives with mirroring.

I will of course do SMART drive tests on an enclosure as soon as I get them to make sure there arent any bad sectors. NewEgg apparently has been good with the RMA process.

Also, I'm in the market for a good looking case that can fit 4 HDDs, but I would guess thats for another thread... right?

If you are buying 3-4 2tb drives that are old or could have degraded performance, why not just buy a new 4tb drive instead? About the same price. That way you have a new drive and warranty. Add more drives in the future as needed...

Also, if you have a standard atx motherboard, pretty much any tower case will support that many drives. What cases peak your interest?
 
I can't get my new G Skill Ripjaws V 3000 MHz DDR4 to actually hit 3000 MHz. I'm on a GA-Z170XP-SLI motherboard with latest firmware. When I activate XMP in bios, it attempts to reboot a couple of times before finally telling me that it failed to boot and to try stock settings. It runs at 2133 MHz.

I got it for a pretty good price so I'm not overly concerned that I'm not hitting 3000, but is there anything I can do? I haven't attempted any overclocking yet (although I will be doing so soon to my i7 6700k). Have only had my build up and running since yesterday.
That's normal. You'll want to set the memory settings in the bios manually. Search for LilJoka's posts in this thread, he gives details on what to do every few pages it seems.
 
I can't get my new G Skill Ripjaws V 3000 MHz DDR4 to actually hit 3000 MHz. I'm on a GA-Z170XP-SLI motherboard with latest firmware. When I activate XMP in bios, it attempts to reboot a couple of times before finally telling me that it failed to boot and to try stock settings. It runs at 2133 MHz.

I got it for a pretty good price so I'm not overly concerned that I'm not hitting 3000, but is there anything I can do? I haven't attempted any overclocking yet (although I will be doing so soon to my i7 6700k). Have only had my build up and running since yesterday.

I have the same motherboard and RAM, and was able to do it the other day. I chose Profile 1 in XMP (only other choice was Default). Might be bad RAM? I am new at this so I probably got some terms mixed up. But HWmonitor shows my RAM at 1500mhz, which is normal since you just double that number right?
 
If you are buying 3-4 2tb drives that are old or could have degraded performance, why not just buy a new 4tb drive instead? About the same price. That way you have a new drive and warranty. Add more drives in the future as needed...

Also, if you have a standard atx motherboard, pretty much any tower case will support that many drives. What cases peak your interest?

Redundancy. The drive setup will be used for a ton of stuff, including backing up my decades-old ever expanding music and data collection and I'd be saddened if it were to crash and become unrecoverable. I had it happen once already, and want to stop paying for the Amazon Cloud service for backups.

Basically, I'm looking around to find the cheapest way to have a decent amount (<3TB) of storage with redundancy. New 2TB drives are only ~$40 so maybe I'll go for three new ones instead.

And as far as case, im likely going for the CoolerMaster Elite 130. It's one of the few not offensive to the eyes.
 

OneUh8

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Redundancy. The drive setup will be used for a ton of stuff, including backing up my decades-old ever expanding music and data collection and I'd be saddened if it were to crash and become unrecoverable. I had it happen once already, and want to stop paying for the Amazon Cloud service for backups.

Basically, I'm looking around to find the cheapest way to have a decent amount (<3TB) of storage with redundancy. New 2TB drives are only ~$40 so maybe I'll go for three new ones instead.

And as far as case, im likely going for the CoolerMaster Elite 130. It's one of the few not offensive to the eyes.

If redundancy and reliable backup is a concern, used drives should not be an option. So you are going mini itx. You are not going to have many options for many drives sticking with those types of cases. Check out the Fractal Designs Node 304 if you want the capability of more drives in the same form factor.
 

Iced

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I have the same motherboard and RAM, and was able to do it the other day. I chose Profile 1 in XMP (only other choice was Default). Might be bad RAM? I am new at this so I probably got some terms mixed up. But HWmonitor shows my RAM at 1500mhz, which is normal since you just double that number right?

I actually had it boot once successfully using Profile 1 in XMP, but only once. Every other time it hasn't worked.
 

cebri.one

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I can't get my new G Skill Ripjaws V 3000 MHz DDR4 to actually hit 3000 MHz. I'm on a GA-Z170XP-SLI motherboard with latest firmware. When I activate XMP in bios, it attempts to reboot a couple of times before finally telling me that it failed to boot and to try stock settings. It runs at 2133 MHz.

I got it for a pretty good price so I'm not overly concerned that I'm not hitting 3000, but is there anything I can do? I haven't attempted any overclocking yet (although I will be doing so soon to my i7 6700k). Have only had my build up and running since yesterday.

I had exactly the same problem. Updating to the latest firmware solved it. Are you sure you have the latest?
 

Iced

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I had exactly the same problem. Updating to the latest firmware solved it. Are you sure you have the latest?

I believe it was F6 or something like that? I'll double-check when I get home tonight, but I definitely update the firmware yesterday.
 

cebri.one

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I believe it was F6 or something like that? I'll double-check when I get home tonight, but I definitely update the firmware yesterday.

Strange, i have the G Skill Trident Z and updating solved it. Some gaffers here told me before i found the fix to try to increase the voltage manually, maybe you can give it a try.
 

Iced

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Strange, i have the G Skill Trident Z and updating solved it. Some gaffers here told me before i found the fix to try to increase the voltage manually, maybe you can give it a try.

I'm gonna give manual voltages a try tonight, but not before overclocking my 6700k. I am reading online that achieving certain ram speeds can sometimes depend on your CPU overclock. Not sure if it's actually true or not, but this site seems to suggest that it only supports up to 2133 MHz ram out of the box.
 

cebri.one

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I'm gonna give manual voltages a try tonight, but not before overclocking my 6700k. I am reading online that achieving certain ram speeds can sometimes depend on your CPU overclock. Not sure if it's actually true or not, but this site seems to suggest that it only supports up to 2133 MHz ram out of the box.

Mine is overclocked to 3000mhz without ocing the CPU but i did that using XMP, but yeah if you do it manually you'll probably have to oc your CPU too.
 

Resilient

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I'll look for bluescreen codes, use bluescreenview to see what the last 3 digits are.



You won't hit 4.4 at 1.275 unless you have a golden chip. Don't go over 1.45.

Also whats your LLC setting?

This tweaktown article may be more detailed and easy to follow.

http://www.tweaktown.com/guides/7481/tweaktowns-ultimate-intel-skylake-overclocking-guide/index.html

They have a gigabyte section, not sure if your uefi is the same, but the LLC section should help. Looks any LLC is fine.

http://www.tweaktown.com/guides/748...intel-skylake-overclocking-guide/index13.html

Thanks for your response mate!

I just set the LLC in the BIOS to Level 5. Not sure what the logic is behind though, so went for a middle ground, with ASUS it has Level 1 to Level 7 (with Level 7 being the biggest reduction in current?).

I've just changed my VCore to 1.29V and as a result I'm seeing temps of 26-32 on idle. Should I be happy? lol :(

I should note that I went the 1.29V route because I had seen others online get the 4.4GHz around that same voltage, or less even! So things seem stable atm, I'm gonna run a long stress test on Sat and hopefully it all goes well.

Only thing is I would like lower temps. On idle it's 26-32, browsing net may jump it to 40, and stress tests have it sitting at average 62-63C.
 
I can't get my new G Skill Ripjaws V 3000 MHz DDR4 to actually hit 3000 MHz. I'm on a GA-Z170XP-SLI motherboard with latest firmware. When I activate XMP in bios, it attempts to reboot a couple of times before finally telling me that it failed to boot and to try stock settings. It runs at 2133 MHz.

I got it for a pretty good price so I'm not overly concerned that I'm not hitting 3000, but is there anything I can do? I haven't attempted any overclocking yet (although I will be doing so soon to my i7 6700k). Have only had my build up and running since yesterday.

Seems to happen to a lot of people, as 3000MHz is classed as an overclock and not supported as standard on z170. I had the same issue too.

I have a i7 6700k, MSI Xpower Titanium motherboard + 16GB (2x 8GB) Corsair Dominator Platinum 3000MHz and with XMP on, it wouldn't boot at all, even with my CPU overclocked to 4.6Ghz.

I had to manually change some of the voltage settings to get it working. I set my SA and IO voltage to 1.100v and change my DRAM voltage to 1.360v before the PC would boot wth XMP on for 3000MHz.
 

Iced

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I feel like something is wrong here, particularly with temps. Ambient temp right now is about 25, so there's no way I should be getting temps like this. Also a friends of mine was asking me about other motherboard temperatures last night that should be listed, but all I have is TMPIN0, TPMIN1, and TMPIN2. Does anyone find this a tad suspect?

Motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI.

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