• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

"I Need a New PC!" 2016 Plus Ultra! HBM2, VR, 144Hz, and 4K for all!

Status
Not open for further replies.

O.DOGG

Member
I need some advice. A relative is coming home from the states and I'm considering ordering a new video card through them.

I currently have a GTX 970 which is performing great but it's starting to show its age a bit and I may not get a chance to purchase a new card at those prices again soon.

So I'm thinking either a 1080 or a 1070. The difference in price is of course a major factor and considering that I'm also considering getting a new case (currently I'm looking at a NZXT Phantom 630), I'm not sure I want to spend that kind of money on the card alone.

I'm using a 1080p monitor which is enough for me, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. I have a 2500k overclocked to 4.3ghz, 16gb system ram. I use the machine for pretty much everything from gaming to development and all things in between.

So my question I guess is, is the 1080 overkill for 1080p gaming? Will I be able to run the latest and greatest with 1070 at good steady 60fps with a 1070?
 
Don't see why ATX is needed, so heres an mATX config:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($119.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($72.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GT OC Video Card ($259.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1144.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-24 13:31 EDT-0400


Actually ordered everything already :)

9d7KCrf.jpg
 
In terms of comfy couch gaming do you guys use a wireless kb/m or run wires across the room? I plan on having my setup hooked to my tv. Already have a wireless xb1 controller for supported games. Also what's the cool mechanical keyboard everyone is getting these days lol
 

Dave_6

Member
Think instead of buying a 1080 right now, I'm going to stick with my 970 and upgrade the CPU, RAM and mobo instead. Then wait and see what the 1080ti is all about. Probably a smarter idea yeah?

Current stuff is a 3570K@4.4 and 8GB of the old Samsung RAM.
 
I tend to find cases with the front door have very poor airflow.

Very poor is relative. The Arc case was designed when components were a lot less efficient. There aren't many modern mainstream cases without solid front panels anymore. Look at temp testing results on the Define S for example.
 
Think instead of buying a 1080 right now, I'm going to stick with my 970 and upgrade the CPU, RAM and mobo instead. Then wait and see what the 1080ti is all about. Probably a smarter idea yeah?

I just did a new build with 1060 and prior to that I had a 970 and that thing played everything great. If I didn't have to sell that setup(moved across country) I would have just stuck with that.
 

Dave_6

Member
I just did a new build with 1060 and prior to that I had a 970 and that thing played everything great. If I didn't have to sell that setup(moved across country) I would have just stuck with that.

Mine still runs great but I have had a few instances of being CPU bound in a couple of newer games.
 

Joqu

Member
Okay, still first ever pc build related woes here. Dunno if you guys'll be be able to help me out tho, I might have to contact Asus or something at this point with the driver stuff. I hope not.

So I installed windows 10 on my newly built pc and that went just fine. Haven't done any benchmarks yet because I'm still in the progress of updating my drivers and I did run into some problems there. It's late now so I'm gonna call it quits for now, but if anyone has any advice that'd be appreciated.


Ok, so first of all, my biggest issue. My damn disc drive isn't being detected by windows - at. all. I installed windows through USB so I didn't need it for that but I did have my suspicions when it didn't show up in the Asus eufi bios before all that, though I'm still not a 100% sure if it was supposed to show up in that without a disc, I can still check if it does.

Still, I've got no idea how to fix this now. It's powered just fine. Little light turns on and it ejects when I press on the eject button. I can enter a disc and hear it spin for a second.

I've tried removing the sata cable and tried different ports but that's not making a difference. It's not showing up, I've gone through device manager and all that. Maybe it's faulty but I'd be surprised if that's the case, anyone have got any idea what I should do?


Also, Windows is updated to the latest version, display driver and nvidia stuff is too and so are most of the mobo drivers except for a few that refuse to work along. I'm not sure what to do with those either.

1) The mobo's Intel Graphics driver refuses to install. I've forgotten the exact wording but basically it errors out saying my pc's specs aren't up to par for the thing or something along those lines, nonsense right? or is this one specifically for intel graphics cards? This seems like a major driver issue if not, I figured I needed it anyway. I checked if the Intel auto update program did the trick but it's not detecting any drivers to update so maybe I'm good though.

I did take a look at my cpu in device manager. Didn't see anything out of the ordinary except that it shows up like 8 times. That normal?

2) Seemingly less important : Realtek audio drivers don't want to update. I don't know if I have to, Windows says it's up to date, but my mobo supplied driver download, which appears to be latest version, isn't working properly. Basically when I run it it says it's uninstalling the "old" version. Once done it prompts me to restart, saying it'll automatically install the new version afterwards. I do this and the driver update utility does start up automatically... except it shows the uninstall text again, with a restart prompt afterwards. And it keeps doing this again and again until I tell it to cancel the whole install.

My audio's working fine so far and like I said Windows says Realtek's up to date so what do I do, just ignore it?


Hyper 212 its normal to slide even when fully clamped.

Temps seem fine. Try a game and use something like HWMonitor to record the temps.

RAM - Need to enable XMP in the overclocking section in the BIOS fpr it to run at 3000Mhz.

Video card should show up in Device Manager. And GPU drivers will complain if there is no GPU connected.

Optical drive should show in My Computer at all times - Check the connections SATA to the Motherboard and a SATA Power to the PSU.

Better to hook up as many fans to the Motherboard and let it auto control - or set your own fan profiles with the mobo software. Unless you are ok leaving the fans at a constant speed - which is also a method some people use for extra silence, but can do a similar sort of thing with mobo software.


Thanks for the help here, but I think you missed I wrote all that before my windows install, checking the uefi. I think I got the RAM sorted and luckily my video card shows up just fine in windows.

Disc drive doesn't though, as I outlined above. I checked the SATA cords, looks fine and it does power on. Just no feedback from it at all at the software side of things. :s

I'm considering leaving my fans connected to the fan controller because I do appreciate the consistency, I feel like I'm able to ignore any fan noise better this way. But the fact that I could do all that through mobo software does make me feel like I should hook em up to the mobo instead. Hmmm.
 

Nohar

Member
Finished upgrading the PC! I got frightened though: the PC kept rebooting, with the screen not displaying anything. We had to try a lot of different things before figuring out that it came from the RAM (weird thing; my friend explained it to me, kinda, but I didn't understand). Also, the Be Quiet Pure Rock cooler is way bigger than I expected. Thanksfully, it fits.

Time to play The Witcher 3 again! Well, assuming the PC doesn't explode.
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member

Alternatively, a 470 barely performs worse than a 480 but costs a lot less.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137024

8GB is less of a deal at $240, but still not any worse than 480 pricing.

Edit: 480 Red Devil from Newegg via Ebay is available.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PowerColor-...618846?hash=item43f3e410de:g:dy8AAOSw65FXvZx2
 

Leynos

Member
I am sure that this has been asked before, but, damn, I am not going through 80 pages, but does anyone know where one can buy a really inexpensive computer? Mine died last year, and I can't afford to get another unless it is dirt cheap. I just need the tower, I already have a monitor. Being able to play PC games would be nice, but is certainly not a requirement.
 

Arkanius

Member
Guys I have to buy a new system, so now I'm looking for a Z170 mobo:

I have three things that need to be considered:

  • Reinforced PCI-e slots
  • Minimal aesthetic
  • (Optional) Bluetooth

Is there anything that fits these parameters?

EDIT:

This one looks pretty solid. Any GAF impressions?

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z170A-KRAIT-GAMING-3X.html#hero-specification


I have assembled this price list already:

Processador Intel Core I7 6700K (4.0GHz) Socket 1151 349.9€
Motherboard MSI Z170A Krait Gaming 3X 149.9€
G.Skill Kit 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Trident Z (4 X 8GB) 209.9€
 

Xux

Member
Is this setup good?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.33 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($150.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($84.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($220.59 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3R 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Extreme Video Card ($705.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.88 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 165Hz Monitor ($799.00 @ B&H)
Total: $2612.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-24 21:25 EDT-0400
I feel like I'm just checking stuff off a list using the enthusiast build in the OP. Do I have enough fans? Will I be wowed by BF1 at a 60-ish-plus framerate? Will I murder MGSV and BF4?
 

Vipu

Banned
Is this setup good?

I feel like I'm just checking stuff off a list using the enthusiast build in the OP. Do I have enough fans? Will I be wowed by BF1 at a 60-ish-plus framerate? Will I murder MGSV and BF4?

more like 100ish fps
When you launch BF1 and have 144hz+ you will be WOWed if you have been with 60hz now.
 

Rizific

Member
can i share? finished this about a week ago.
i5 6600k
Asus Z170A
Corsair Vengeance LED DDR4 3000 2x8gig
Asus rog strix gtx 1070
Corsair H100i v2

call me cheesy, but i like all the LEDs. also in hindsight, i like the colors of that black/white msi z170a board more. wish i would have seen it when picking out a mobo =(

IMG_20160816_154753_zpse38tunjy.jpg

20160823_154825_zpskfre1onx.jpg

20160816_193316_zps62gzrfdz.jpg
 

gotoadgo

Member
Is this setup good?

I feel like I'm just checking stuff off a list using the enthusiast build in the OP. Do I have enough fans? Will I be wowed by BF1 at a 60-ish-plus framerate? Will I murder MGSV and BF4?
I recently built something similar, just with an i7 instead of the i5. It'll destroy almost everything for quite a while. I run DOOM on ultra/nightmare where applicable at 120+ FPS. Witcher 3 is a constant 60 for me.
 
Today after a windows 10 update, half my screen started showing a a very light grid paper like pattern on the screen. I've never seen this before, hardly noticeable unless on a white background. Anyone know what this is, or maybe how to get rid of it?


Might be graphical artifacts?
 

niall

Neo Member
If it's half your screen, this is often a display setting somewhere on your monitor that's supposed to be to used to demo some feature of the display.. Doesnt really fit with the Anniversary Update timing, but worth checking!
 
If it's half your screen, this is often a display setting somewhere on your monitor that's supposed to be to used to demo some feature of the display.. Doesnt really fit with the Anniversary Update timing, but worth checking!

It actually did show up when I did the anniversary update but went away after restarting, now it's not.
 

Ifrit

Member

Thanks, googling about it found about that site, hopefully I get something good


Alternatively, a 470 barely performs worse than a 480 but costs a lot less.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137024

8GB is less of a deal at $240, but still not any worse than 480 pricing.

Edit: 480 Red Devil from Newegg via Ebay is available.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PowerColor-...618846?hash=item43f3e410de:g:dy8AAOSw65FXvZx2


I think $280 is a little bit on the expensive range, also I read is not that PowerColor is not that good of a brand.

Still thinking about getting a rx 470, maybe if I can't find a the 480 at a good price
 

Filth

Member
can i share? finished this about a week ago.
i5 6600k
Asus Z170A
Corsair Vengeance LED DDR4 3000 2x8gig
Asus rog strix gtx 1070
Corsair H100i v2

call me cheesy, but i like all the LEDs. also in hindsight, i like the colors of that black/white msi z170a board more. wish i would have seen it when picking out a mobo =(

IMG_20160816_154753_zpse38tunjy.jpg

20160823_154825_zpskfre1onx.jpg

20160816_193316_zps62gzrfdz.jpg



Hey broski I have almost identical setup. I can't make out the fans you have with the white outline. I'd like to grab some for the blacklight led strip I have inside my case
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
Thanks, googling about it found about that site, hopefully I get something good





I think $280 is a little bit on the expensive range, also I read is not that PowerColor is not that good of a brand.

Still thinking about getting a rx 470, maybe if I can't find a the 480 at a good price

Any 480 is honestly overpriced, especially compared to a 470. 40%+ higher price for ~5% more performance? I definitely regret going with a 480, and I'm hoping drivers or something will make up the difference eventually.

But as far as 480s go the Devil is probably the most well rounded card at factory settings, though it requires a bios update. With tweaks, you can't go wrong with any of the cards, aside from maybe the Nitro+ which may have a sliiightly worse/noisier cooler than the others.

In terms of support, I've never had to use any of them, I've just heard XFX's is pretty good and Asus is apparently not so good.


(Worth noting, I do have a Devil 480. Bias? Maybe a little, but I'd still say MSI's card is probably the all-around best by a slight margin and was the one I'd have preferred, but this was my second choice and was available.)


Best deal for real: https://jet.com/product/MSI-Video-C...n-Frozr-VI-O/e63f1e7cb1b645c6ad7b36c9dba862e2

$175 470 with the triple15 code if you are new to Jet.
 
So the grid from the picture above on my monitor dissapears the instant I go below 80 contrast. 80 no grid, 81 grid appears. Very odd. My calibration is usually thrown off my windows updates but somehow it seemed to have changed my monitor settings as well. Corrected now, but that's still odd. I'm not sure what the grid is for or what's causing it. Oddest part is that it doesn't get more distinct with higher contrast, only less so as I ramp up to 100.

ASUS MG279Q is my monitor.
 
Okay, still first ever pc build related woes here. Dunno if you guys'll be be able to help me out tho, I might have to contact Asus or something at this point with the driver stuff. I hope not.

So I installed windows 10 on my newly built pc and that went just fine. Haven't done any benchmarks yet because I'm still in the progress of updating my drivers and I did run into some problems there. It's late now so I'm gonna call it quits for now, but if anyone has any advice that'd be appreciated.


Ok, so first of all, my biggest issue. My damn disc drive isn't being detected by windows - at. all. I installed windows through USB so I didn't need it for that but I did have my suspicions when it didn't show up in the Asus eufi bios before all that, though I'm still not a 100% sure if it was supposed to show up in that without a disc, I can still check if it does.

Still, I've got no idea how to fix this now. It's powered just fine. Little light turns on and it ejects when I press on the eject button. I can enter a disc and hear it spin for a second.

I've tried removing the sata cable and tried different ports but that's not making a difference. It's not showing up, I've gone through device manager and all that. Maybe it's faulty but I'd be surprised if that's the case, anyone have got any idea what I should do?


Also, Windows is updated to the latest version, display driver and nvidia stuff is too and so are most of the mobo drivers except for a few that refuse to work along. I'm not sure what to do with those either.

1) The mobo's Intel Graphics driver refuses to install. I've forgotten the exact wording but basically it errors out saying my pc's specs aren't up to par for the thing or something along those lines, nonsense right? or is this one specifically for intel graphics cards? This seems like a major driver issue if not, I figured I needed it anyway. I checked if the Intel auto update program did the trick but it's not detecting any drivers to update so maybe I'm good though.

I did take a look at my cpu in device manager. Didn't see anything out of the ordinary except that it shows up like 8 times. That normal?

2) Seemingly less important : Realtek audio drivers don't want to update. I don't know if I have to, Windows says it's up to date, but my mobo supplied driver download, which appears to be latest version, isn't working properly. Basically when I run it it says it's uninstalling the "old" version. Once done it prompts me to restart, saying it'll automatically install the new version afterwards. I do this and the driver update utility does start up automatically... except it shows the uninstall text again, with a restart prompt afterwards. And it keeps doing this again and again until I tell it to cancel the whole install.

My audio's working fine so far and like I said Windows says Realtek's up to date so what do I do, just ignore it?





Thanks for the help here, but I think you missed I wrote all that before my windows install, checking the uefi. I think I got the RAM sorted and luckily my video card shows up just fine in windows.

Disc drive doesn't though, as I outlined above. I checked the SATA cords, looks fine and it does power on. Just no feedback from it at all at the software side of things. :s

I'm considering leaving my fans connected to the fan controller because I do appreciate the consistency, I feel like I'm able to ignore any fan noise better this way. But the fact that I could do all that through mobo software does make me feel like I should hook em up to the mobo instead. Hmmm.

Disc drive: you mentioned checking the cables. Have you tried a different cable?

Regarding drivers, since all you've done at this point is install windows, I'd do a clean reinstall. Windows first, then chipset and lan from Asus support page. After that the order doesn't matter. Grab the rest of the drivers for your board, then install your gpu driver last.
 

Rizific

Member
Hey broski I have almost identical setup. I can't make out the fans you have with the white outline. I'd like to grab some for the blacklight led strip I have inside my case

Thermaltake Riing series fans. available in different colors and even rgb. they are marketed as radiator fans, but they are doing fine as case fans. dont worry, the god awful thermaltake logo sticker comes off easily.
 

e90Mark

Member
I've got an issue guys. I just built a PC using this Lan Li case. It's only got four expansion slots; am I going to be able to add my second GTX 1070 in it? I... don't think so. I think the bottom of one card would be hitting the fans of the other. No?

Ugh... This is the second case I'll have returned for this build if so. I think I'd rather have two GTX 1070s. Pic of the expansion slots:

Should be fine. I had two cards stacked like that with no issues in mATX.
 

Echoes

Member
I must be in the minority here but I kinda regret buying the ASUS ROG Swiftt PG279Q. This was my first PC build (going from a Mac mini because Lightroom runs crap there) and I thought it'd be good to pair my high-end build with a monitor to match. But it's underwhelming. I realize G-Sync is a great feature in theory, but I wonder how effective it is when I can run all games on +150 FPS at 2K. Would a non-G-Sync screen still give me problems with tearing (or v-sync instability)? However, the prospect of no stutter and no tearing for future games is certainly appealing, or playing at 4K where the frames hover between 40~80.

The other thing is the high refresh rate. I wonder if it's particularly aimed at competitive games only (or maybe I simply don't see the difference, which is fine). The monitor has a button at the back that changes the refresh rate on the fly, and going from 60hz to 144hz didn't feel any differently. I'd never be able to tell them apart. I was testing it with Doom 4. I didn't notice any difference in scrolling pages etc as well.

I wasn't sure if the button on the monitor would actually override the Nvidia control settings, so I went there and changed it to 60hz and 144hz but I still don't see a difference.

Just wondering what everyone thinks about it. Considering the insane hype around this monitor and the premium price, I felt cheated...

Edit: Doom 4 runs at 120~200 FPS for me.
 

Jezbollah

Member
can i share? finished this about a week ago.
i5 6600k
Asus Z170A
Corsair Vengeance LED DDR4 3000 2x8gig
Asus rog strix gtx 1070
Corsair H100i v2

call me cheesy, but i like all the LEDs. also in hindsight, i like the colors of that black/white msi z170a board more. wish i would have seen it when picking out a mobo =(

IMG_20160816_154753_zpse38tunjy.jpg

20160823_154825_zpskfre1onx.jpg

20160816_193316_zps62gzrfdz.jpg

Its not cheesy at all.

My friend went for a new case and is pretty OCD about matching colours in his gaming setup (its all mostly white) - he went for that case and a few LEDs to go with it. It looks super classy and quiet as hell, and matches his setup (mostly white coloured components) very well.
 

Arkanius

Member
I wouldn't call that a minimal aesthetic. Have you looked at the Asus Maximus VIII Gene?

It doesn't have the reinforced PCI-e slots :(
I find the Krait aesthetic more minimal with the black and white accents. I wish it was all white instead the gaming branding things splattered somewhere.
 
It doesn't have the reinforced PCI-e slots :(
I find the Krait aesthetic more minimal with the black and white accents. I wish it was all white instead the gaming branding things splattered somewhere.

What about the MSI Xpower Titanium ? Unless price is an issue, as it is more money, the Xpower is pretty much all white, well Silver / White and has the reinforced PCI-e slots still, if you really want them.



Looks great, especially in a white case.
 

Pachimari

Member
So currently I have my computer connected to 3 monitors and 1 HDTV but I would like to have one more monitor connected. Will I have to have 2 GPU's so that I have more ports, or is this simply not possible if GTX 780 "only" comes with 4 ports?
 

Cronen

Member
It looks like my PSU is on its way out and will at some point soon need replacing. It's around 5-6 years old at this point, and is 750W. I am wondering if I should replace it with a PSU of the same wattage, or whether I can get away with a PSU that has less wattage (and also cheaper). Eg, a something around 550W/600W/650W?

My specs are:

GTX 970
i5-3570K
16GB RAM
1xSSD
1xHDD

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
 

Rufus

Member
It looks like my PSU is on its way out and will at some point soon need replacing. It's around 5-6 years old at this point, and is 750W. I am wondering if I should replace it with a PSU of the same wattage, or whether I can get away with a PSU that has less wattage (and also cheaper). Eg, a something around 550W/600W/650W?

My specs are:

GTX 970
i5-3570K
32GB RAM
1xSSD
1xHDD

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
The search term you're looking for is "PSU calculator". I don't have a recommendation, so pick whichever comes up first or compare between a few.
 
It looks like my PSU is on its way out and will at some point soon need replacing. It's around 5-6 years old at this point, and is 750W. I am wondering if I should replace it with a PSU of the same wattage, or whether I can get away with a PSU that has less wattage (and also cheaper). Eg, a something around 550W/600W/650W?

My specs are:

GTX 970
i5-3570K
16GB RAM
1xSSD
1xHDD

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

Any one of those three would be more than enough.
 

Ruff

Member
Hey guys, are there any good gaming laptops that can run modern games well for around £1000? My GF is asking me to look around because she is often in different places but still wants to game with me. I know you don't really get much for your money with these sort of things but eh, desktops are not the answer right now.

Also how should I compare the mobile GPUs with desktop versions. I assume the 970m is not really as good as a big boy 970, so should that be the minimum I'm looking for or is a 960m fine still?
 

What do you guys think should be the placement of the 2 additional case fans I picked up with the above build? 2 intake in front 1 exhaust in rear? Iirc the r5 comes with 2 included so I'll have an extra one. Not sure if 4 fans will be overkill....what do you think?
 

LordAlu

Member
Hey guys, are there any good gaming laptops that can run modern games well for around £1000? My GF is asking me to look around because she is often in different places but still wants to game with me. I know you don't really get much for your money with these sort of things but eh, desktops are not the answer right now.

Also how should I compare the mobile GPUs with desktop versions. I assume the 970m is not really as good as a big boy 970, so should that be the minimum I'm looking for or is a 960m fine still?
The 970m is not quite as good as a desktop 960, so for modern stuff at 1080p high-settings it's probably the best choice. If you could save for longer and get up to around the £1300 mark, you could pick up a laptop with a GTX 1060 which is essentially the same as the desktop version and would be significantly improved.
 

StMeph

Member
I started getting memory crashes with The Division, and that was alleviated by turning down a lot of settings, but then the same memory crashes appeared in Doom to a point where I couldn't/didn't want to play at the level necessary to run smoothly, and now Deus Ex is killing my system with the same memory crashes too. For reference, I'm currently running:
- i5 3570K
- 8 GB RAM
- GTX 670​

So it's a VRAM/RAM problem, but I wanted to upgrade this year anyway, so I guess it's just a sign to do it now rather than wait. It looks like supplies for Nvidia GPUs have sorted out now that the FE are over with, so I guess it's time to build a new PC over Labor Day weekend.

Is there a wireless card that people strongly recommend?
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
Is there a consensus on 970 vs. 1060? The prices in my local shops are pretty close.

The pc it would be going into is a i5 4670k setup with 8gig ram (probably will double that soon though) if that matters.
 

DPB

Member
Is there a consensus on 970 vs. 1060? The prices in my local shops are pretty close.

The pc it would be going into is a i5 4670k setup with 8gig ram (probably will double that soon though) if that matters.

The 1060 is in a different class, it performs like a 980. It has more memory too, which will allow you enable higher resolution textures in games without a performance hit.
 

kikonawa

Member
Is there a consensus on 970 vs. 1060? The prices in my local shops are pretty close.

The pc it would be going into is a i5 4670k setup with 8gig ram (probably will double that soon though) if that matters.
If you can find a cheap 970 i would go for that
 
The 1060 is in a different class, it performs like a 980. It has more memory too, which will allow you enable higher resolution textures in games without a performance hit.

This! If they are pretty close go with the 1060. 970 is no slouch though if you can grab one on the cheap
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom