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"I Need a New PC!" 2016 Plus Ultra! HBM2, VR, 144Hz, and 4K for all!

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Evo X

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I have 2 Titan X 2015s and I've been debating selling them to get one X 2016. Nice to hear it copes well with 4k though, since I have the 3440x1440 and 4k tv too.

Do it. I was able to sell my 2015 Titan X for $760 on ebay a month ago. If you sell both and get a 2016, you'll actually make money and have a superior setup.

What are some headphones you guys and gals recommend? I'm steering away from gaming headsets, moving on from a Siberia v2 that's seen better days, to a dedicated mic/headphone setup. I've already purchased the Blue Snowball, and it'll be on the way tomorrow. I'm looking for a solid pair of open back headphones.

The last pair of dedicated headphones I bought were the Senssheiser HD202 back around 2012 lol. Outside of the mic, my budget is around $75-$100. Thanks for any suggestions.

If you can stretch that budget to $140, these are the best headphones you'll find less than $200.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HVLUR86/?tag=neogaf0e-20

If it needs to be within that, check these out.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HVLUR54/?tag=neogaf0e-20
 

zoozilla

Member
A couple quick questions:

- is a 550W PSU okay for an i5-6600K and GTX 1060 rig, assuming I'm overclocking both?

- I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to get both an SSD and a standard hard drive at the same time. Does it make sense to get the SSD first so that I can install the OS onto it?
 

V1LÆM

Gold Member
A couple quick questions:

- is a 550W PSU okay for an i5-6600K and GTX 1060 rig, assuming I'm overclocking both?

- I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to get both an SSD and a standard hard drive at the same time. Does it make sense to get the SSD first so that I can install the OS onto it?

550W is fine even for a 6700K/1070. the 1060 uses 120W i think and the 6600K has a TDP of 91W. that leaves you a good 330W for everything else.
 
I switched all of the stock fans on my Define Nano S to Noctua fans, the noise level is similar but the temperatures have improved.
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MetalSlug

Member
I need some thoughts on what would be the best purchase (Got around £1000).

My Current system is:


  • Case (NZXT Noctis N450 Full Tower Gaming Case - White w/ Blue LEDS)
  • Power supply (XFX 850W 80+ Gold Rated PSU)
  • CPU (Intel Core i7-6700K Quad Core Skylake Processor Overclocked to 4.5GHz)
  • Motherboard (MSI Z170 Krait (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard)
  • Cooler (Alpenfohn Matterhorn White Edition CPU Cooler)
  • Memory (Corsair Vengence LPX 16GB DDR4 3000MHz Dual Channel)
  • Storage Drive (Seagate 2TB HDD 7200RPM)
  • Storage Drive (Samsung 250GB 850 EVO SSD)
  • GPU (MSI GTX 970)
  • Operating System (Windows 10)
  • Current Display (BenQ XL2420T - 1920x1080 @ 120Hz)

I have no idea what would be the best option out of the following...

1. PG348Q ROG Swift 34" 3440x1440 IPS G-Sync 100Hz Gaming Widescreen Curved LED Monitor
I have never owned or seen an Ultrawide, but they look nice on Youtube.

2. Predator 4k2k XB281HK 28" 3840x2160 TN G-Sync Gaming Widescreen LED Monitor
With some type of GPU?

3. G-Master GB2888UHSU-B1 28" 3840x2160 TN FREESYNC 4K 60Hz 1ms
With some type of GPU?

4. HTC Vive VR Headset
I have never experienced any form of VR before in my life. The only thing is my room isn't that large for room scale. It might be okay for standing and seated though.

Thanks Gaf!
 
I need some thoughts on what would be the best purchase (Got around £1000).

My Current system is:


  • Case (NZXT Noctis N450 Full Tower Gaming Case - White w/ Blue LEDS)
  • Power supply (XFX 850W 80+ Gold Rated PSU)
  • CPU (Intel Core i7-6700K Quad Core Skylake Processor Overclocked to 4.5GHz)
  • Motherboard (MSI Z170 Krait (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard)
  • Cooler (Alpenfohn Matterhorn White Edition CPU Cooler)
  • Memory (Corsair Vengence LPX 16GB DDR4 3000MHz Dual Channel)
  • Storage Drive (Seagate 2TB HDD 7200RPM)
  • Storage Drive (Samsung 250GB 850 EVO SSD)
  • GPU (MSI GTX 970)
  • Operating System (Windows 10)
  • Current Display (BenQ XL2420T - 1920x1080 @ 120Hz)

I have no idea what would be the best option out of the following...

1. PG348Q ROG Swift 34" 3440x1440 IPS G-Sync 100Hz Gaming Widescreen Curved LED Monitor
I have never owned or seen an Ultrawide, but they look nice on Youtube.

2. Predator 4k2k XB281HK 28" 3840x2160 TN G-Sync Gaming Widescreen LED Monitor
With some type of GPU?

3. G-Master GB2888UHSU-B1 28" 3840x2160 TN FREESYNC 4K 60Hz 1ms
With some type of GPU?

4. HTC Vive VR Headset
I have never experienced any form of VR before in my life. The only thing is my room isn't that large for room scale. It might be okay for standing and seated though.

Thanks Gaf!

Your 970 will struggle on all the three monitors. You need a very beefy GPU to support 1440p ultrawide and 4K gaming with acceptable performance, plus 4K Gsync is not worth it as GSync is best suited for high fresh rate, not 60Hz. Your best solution is upgrade GPU to a 1070/1080, and grab one of the higher end 1440p 144Hz Gsync monitor out there which are far more cost efficient. For VR, yeah Vive requires a much bigger room space than other VR solutions so unless you can sort that out, go for better GPU+1440p Gsync monitor is a better spend.
 

MetalSlug

Member
Your 970 will struggle on all the three monitors. You need a very beefy GPU to support 1440p ultrawide and 4K gaming with acceptable performance, plus 4K Gsync is not worth it as GSync is best suited for high fresh rate, not 60Hz. Your best solution is upgrade GPU to a 1070/1080, and grab one of the higher end 1440p 144Hz Gsync monitor out there which are far more cost efficient. For VR, yeah Vive requires a much bigger room space than other VR solutions so unless you can sort that out, go for better GPU+1440p Gsync monitor is a better spend.

Cool, I'll have a look at some 1440P monitors. Thanks.
 
So I'm just hedging my bets in case I can't get a deal from this thread . I'm looking at getting a laptop for school. I have a great desktop, but I need a functional laptop for my Software Engineering courses. My budget is about $800, might be able to stretch it a little, what would you guys recommend? The last time I had a laptop was back in 2012 for my original undergrad program.
 

liezryou

Member
So with the new cards in play, what is the best budget gpu assuming I can get a $200 Gibabyte Extreme gtx970?

RX480 8GB and GTX1060 6GB are the best budget gpus in the ~200$ range. And both of them are much better then the gtx970.

The GTX1060 is about 30$ more and performs a bit better on most currently released games. The RX480 is cheaper, has 2GB more RAM and performs better on DX12 games and will likely get better with driver level optimization.

So I'm just hedging my bets in case I can't get a deal from this thread . I'm looking at getting a laptop for school. I have a great desktop, but I need a functional laptop for my Software Engineering courses. My budget is about $800, might be able to stretch it a little, what would you guys recommend? The last time I had a laptop was back in 2012 for my original undergrad program.

There's a dedicated laptop thread, but there is a a current deal on the lenovo y700 that may be perfect for you, 750$ for this:

Intel Core i7-6700HQ 2.6 GHz Processor
8 GB DDR4 SDRAM
1 TB 5400 rpm Hard Drive
15.6-Inch Screen, NVIDIA GeForce 960M Graphics

You can find it at best buy or amazon
 
RX480 8GB and GTX1060 6GB are the best budget gpus in the ~200$ range. And both of them are much better then the gtx970.

The GTX1060 is about 30$ more and performs a bit better on most currently released games. The RX480 is cheaper, has 2GB more RAM and performs better on DX12 games and will likely get better with driver level optimization.



There's a dedicated laptop thread, but there is a a current deal on the lenovo y700 that may be perfect for you, 750$ for this:

Intel Core i7-6700HQ 2.6 GHz Processor
8 GB DDR4 SDRAM
1 TB 5400 rpm Hard Drive
15.6-Inch Screen, NVIDIA GeForce 960M Graphics

You can find it at best buy or amazon

I didn't realize that, sorry. Thanks for the feedback though.
 
Hey guys,

So I recently got a new mobo (Gigabyte Z170N Gaming 5), CPU (i7-6700K) and DDR4 ram (Corsair Vengence 2x 8GB 3000 MHZ). Initially, I was having boot loops when I had both ram sticks in the mobo. When I took one out, it would load to windows. I then reserached a bit and found that my voltage was off in the bios settings and when I set it to 1.35 instead of 1.2 both ram were working.

Probably about 2 hours later I started to get BSODs left and right, each with a different exception ( Page Fault, Sys Exception, Driver Over ran stack buffer, and a few more). I tried to do to a driver repair in the comand prompt and it seemed to work until it didnt.

Begrudgingly, I decided to completely wipe my comp and do a clean install. Now, 12 hours later, I am still getting errors such as Driver IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL and driver overran stack buffer and system service exception.

Is this the ram causing the issue? Mobo?

I'm at a complete loss as to what to do. Im already pissed that I have to reinstall everything and start from scratch but now i just want my damn PC to work.

Please help GAF!
 

Wag

Member
What's the best/cheapest 1440p videocard right now?

Also, what's with the price-gouging on the newest AMD/Nvidia cards? I can't find a decent priced rx470/480/6GB GTX 1060 anywhere. They're all $20-$30 overpriced (at least).
 

Aegus

Member
Is there much performance difference between a SATA SSD or NVMe SSD? Enough that it'd be noticeable for loading performance?

Starting to think about upgrading the old PC.
 

V1LÆM

Gold Member
What's the best/cheapest 1440p videocard right now?

Also, what's with the price-gouging on the newest AMD/Nvidia cards? I can't find a decent priced rx470/480/6GB GTX 1060 anywhere. They're all $20-$30 overpriced (at least).

best is either the 1070 or 1080 but definitely aren't cheap. i think a 1060 might be OK if you don't mind lowering settings.

Is there much performance difference between a SATA SSD or NVMe SSD? Enough that it'd be noticeable for loading performance?

Starting to think about upgrading the old PC.

i think it just depends on the speed of the ssd you get. both sata/nvme can have similar speeds but the difference can be something like 540/520MBs vs 3.1/1.7GBs (just looking at some samsung drives). so yeah it can be a huge difference.
 

Artchur

Member
Is it worth upgrading to a 1080 with a i5 3570k and 16g DDR3 RAM? Rocking two 670's at the moment.

I mostly play 1080p on my monitors but I have a 4k TV I'm working on getting my computer connected too in my main gaming area.
 

V1LÆM

Gold Member
Is it worth upgrading to a 1080 with a i5 3570k and 16g DDR3 RAM? Rocking two 670's at the moment.

I mostly play 1080p on my monitors but I have a 4k TV I'm working on getting my computer connected too in my main gaming area.

you could. the cpu and ram are fine but a 1080 is ridiculous for 1080p but maybe if you lowered some settings and depending on the game you could do 4k 60fps. 1440p 60fps should be the minimum for that card.

heres a comparison between the 1070 and 1080:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1731?vs=1714

if you are going to be playing at 1080p then a 1060/1070 will be fine. if 1440p 60fps then a 1070/1080. if 4k 60fps then 1080/Titan X(P)
 

knitoe

Member
Hey guys,

So I recently got a new mobo (Gigabyte Z170N Gaming 5), CPU (i7-6700K) and DDR4 ram (Corsair Vengence 2x 8GB 3000 MHZ). Initially, I was having boot loops when I had both ram sticks in the mobo. When I took one out, it would load to windows. I then reserached a bit and found that my voltage was off in the bios settings and when I set it to 1.35 instead of 1.2 both ram were working.

Probably about 2 hours later I started to get BSODs left and right, each with a different exception ( Page Fault, Sys Exception, Driver Over ran stack buffer, and a few more). I tried to do to a driver repair in the comand prompt and it seemed to work until it didnt.

Begrudgingly, I decided to completely wipe my comp and do a clean install. Now, 12 hours later, I am still getting errors such as Driver IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL and driver overran stack buffer and system service exception.

Is this the ram causing the issue? Mobo?

I'm at a complete loss as to what to do. Im already pissed that I have to reinstall everything and start from scratch but now i just want my damn PC to work.

Please help GAF!

Does the MB have the latest bios firmware? Did you test the ram? Are you using XMP profile or are manually entering the ram spec in the bios?
 

Wag

Member
best is either the 1070 or 1080 but definitely aren't cheap. i think a 1060 might be OK if you don't mind lowering settings.

I'm buying for a friend- seeing as the 6GB 1060 can't be found at a decent price, I'm probably going to choose between a 470/480. She's not a big gamer anyways. Certainly better than the GTX 295 she's rocking.
 

Artchur

Member
you could. the cpu and ram are fine but a 1080 is ridiculous for 1080p but maybe if you lowered some settings and depending on the game you could do 4k 60fps. 1440p 60fps should be the minimum for that card.

heres a comparison between the 1070 and 1080:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1731?vs=1714

if you are going to be playing at 1080p then a 1060/1070 will be fine. if 1440p 60fps then a 1070/1080. if 4k 60fps then 1080/Titan X(P)

Thanks. I was tempted to build a mini-ATX to act as a HTPC but just upgrading the video card would be a lot cheaper.
 

Bloodember

Member
Hey guys,

So I recently got a new mobo (Gigabyte Z170N Gaming 5), CPU (i7-6700K) and DDR4 ram (Corsair Vengence 2x 8GB 3000 MHZ). Initially, I was having boot loops when I had both ram sticks in the mobo. When I took one out, it would load to windows. I then reserached a bit and found that my voltage was off in the bios settings and when I set it to 1.35 instead of 1.2 both ram were working.

Probably about 2 hours later I started to get BSODs left and right, each with a different exception ( Page Fault, Sys Exception, Driver Over ran stack buffer, and a few more). I tried to do to a driver repair in the comand prompt and it seemed to work until it didnt.

Begrudgingly, I decided to completely wipe my comp and do a clean install. Now, 12 hours later, I am still getting errors such as Driver IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL and driver overran stack buffer and system service exception.

Is this the ram causing the issue? Mobo?

I'm at a complete loss as to what to do. Im already pissed that I have to reinstall everything and start from scratch but now i just want my damn PC to work.

Please help GAF!

Run a memory test. But yes, it sounds like a RAM issue.
 

r4z4

Member
Hi all, need advice on monitor purchase please.

Currently I have a 29" 21:9 2560 x 1080 monitor. I want to upgrade to a 27" 2560x1440 monitor instead to get more vertical resolution.

Currently I have an i5 3570k and a GTX 670. I want to upgrade at the same time as buying the monitor to a GTX 1070.

What are my best options for a new monitor? Is g-sync worth it? 60/120/144 Ghz?

Most intensive games I will be playing are Witcher 3, Civ 6, Doom etc.

Thanks.
 
Try yourself.
A good guide here:
http://www.overclock.net/t/538439/guide-to-overclocking-the-core-i7-920-or-930-to-4-0ghz


A common config is 191mhz bclk, 21x multi for 4Ghz. Vcore around 1.30v. High Load Line calibration.

We can probably work off the vendors OC config if you get some photos of it loaded up.


Thanks for all your help, I appreciate it. Will PM you now and try and get this OC sorted. I'm thinking maybe do my own OC rather than use the profile saved, since that possible broke the GFX card.

In my bios though it does say my dram frequency is 1066mhz. In sure I've got 6 sticks that are all 1600 though.
 
Hi guys/gals. I'm just looking for a little feedback.

I was about to build myself a new pc, but I stumbled across this, and thought I might go this route instead.

I have built a PC before, and I have no objections to doing it again, but this PC seemed to be well worth the money for what I'm looking for. I'm certainly not looking for a bleeding-edge machine, and this seems like it will suit my needs.

I especially like that the components are off-the-shelf and not integrated for upgrade-ability purposes. I would immediately I'd include another 8-16 gigs of ram and an additional SSD, if I pick it up. (I may switch out the power source as well.)

It seems like it would be tough for me to build this at that price when I factor in a copy of Win10.

Any thoughts on this particular item or anyone with any experience with this vendor?
 

MrOogieBoogie

BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Dwelling some more on it, is it a plain dumb idea to upgrade to an i5-6500 and non-Z170 board even if I don't plan to overclock? Are the lower RAM speeds just setting myself up for future regret?
 
Glad you decided on the Titan X. You'll love it!

I've been playing games at 4K and they look gorgeous. Actually has the performance head room to do supersampling 8K in Telltale games and 6K in Life is Strange while maintaining 60fps. What a beastly GPU.

Yep, can't wait. Ordered it this morning from the UK Nvidia store, but they still haven't shipped it or even taken the money yet despite it saying in stock. Getting anxious lol, especially because I sold my 980 Ti and I have to send it out tomorrow. Going to be without my PC until it arrives.
 

beast

Neo Member
Hey guys,

So I recently got a new mobo (Gigabyte Z170N Gaming 5), CPU (i7-6700K) and DDR4 ram (Corsair Vengence 2x 8GB 3000 MHZ). Initially, I was having boot loops when I had both ram sticks in the mobo. When I took one out, it would load to windows. I then reserached a bit and found that my voltage was off in the bios settings and when I set it to 1.35 instead of 1.2 both ram were working.

Probably about 2 hours later I started to get BSODs left and right, each with a different exception ( Page Fault, Sys Exception, Driver Over ran stack buffer, and a few more). I tried to do to a driver repair in the comand prompt and it seemed to work until it didnt.

Begrudgingly, I decided to completely wipe my comp and do a clean install. Now, 12 hours later, I am still getting errors such as Driver IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL and driver overran stack buffer and system service exception.

Is this the ram causing the issue? Mobo?

I'm at a complete loss as to what to do. Im already pissed that I have to reinstall everything and start from scratch but now i just want my damn PC to work.

Please help GAF!

Also if you can check your cpu... I was facing similar issues with 6600k and and the problem was a bad cpu.
 

Vuze

Member
Any recommendations for an AIO Keyboard/Mouse bluetooth solution that I could use for my Android TV and mITX build? My cheap ass bluetooth keyboard is crapping out so I need something new. Figured I might as well get one of these.

The Logitech K400 looks good to me, any feedback or other suggestions? Should be in the 30-40€ ballpark.
 

Rizific

Member
Hi all, need advice on monitor purchase please.

Currently I have a 29" 21:9 2560 x 1080 monitor. I want to upgrade to a 27" 2560x1440 monitor instead to get more vertical resolution.

Currently I have an i5 3570k and a GTX 670. I want to upgrade at the same time as buying the monitor to a GTX 1070.

What are my best options for a new monitor? Is g-sync worth it? 60/120/144 Ghz?

Most intensive games I will be playing are Witcher 3, Civ 6, Doom etc.

Thanks.
I bought a Dell s271DG that's paired with a 1070. It's cheaper than other monitors with similar specs. It's a nice looking monitor and it doesn't scream "look at this, it's for gamurrrzzzz". 27" 1440p 144hz gsync for $450.
 
Is upgrading from 980ti to 1080 worth it?

ATM my speccsd are

16gb ram ddr3
i5 3570k oc'd
w10
1tb hard drive (no ssd)
Asus P8Z77-V LX Motherboard
 

CazTGG

Member
Just about ready to finalize my PC build, but i'm open to suggestions. I'm aiming to make it a relatively quiet (to minimize background noise when recording audio) but powerful one for playing video games in 1080p (with plans to move up to 4K once 4K screens become more affordable) that'll store a lot of video footage of said games/record footage when needed for editing together videos:
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/yJKY9W

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K
CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3333
Storage: Boot - Mushkin Reactor 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased)
Secondary - Western Digital WD SE 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hard Drive (5x; I plan on using a RAID 5 configuration with them)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 1250W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased)
Operating System: Windows 10 Home (Should Pro be considered?)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Zx 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card
Case: Nanoxia De​ep Silence​ 6

Short version: It's being used for gaming, recording and editing audio, editing footage and rendering videos and I don't want it to be as loud as my last one (namely nice my last one suffered from needing to replace the RAM and a damaged motherboard, both the result of a power outage in the middle of the night).
 

Xux

Member
I feel like I spend too much effort talking myself out of a new Titan X.

Do they need special cooling or anything?
 

MrOogieBoogie

BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Shit... Microcenter has an awesome deal on an i5-6500 and Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H LGA 1151 mATX Intel Motherboard for $239.50 (tax included).

Is this a good combination? I noticed that this motherboard is only recommended in the first build in the OP. Is there a major reason for that, and would I be wasting my money here?
 

z3phon

Member
I would appreciate some help from you guys. Knowing nothing about how to build PC's, I'm considering to give it a shot instead of always buying expensive laptops. I'd like to aim for something inbetween mid-high range pc.
Here's the list i've built, would appreciate some advice from you guys.
The main thing I still am not clear about is what motherboard to get. Could someone list 1-2 motherboards that are considered to be great.
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2QY4sJ
 

Evo X

Member
I would appreciate some help from you guys. Knowing nothing about how to build PC's, I'm considering to give it a shot instead of always buying expensive laptops. I'd like to aim for something inbetween mid-high range pc.
Here's the list i've built, would appreciate some advice from you guys.
The main thing I still am not clear about is what motherboard to get. Could someone list 1-2 motherboards that are considered to be great.
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2QY4sJ

I got some advice for you.

1) You don't need to spend anywhere near $400 to get a quality motherboard. This one is $150 cheaper and just as good:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813132586

2) Swap the Corsair H110i cooler for a Kraken X61:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9H53ZA9685

3) You don't need a 1000w PSU for that build. It would be just fine with half the wattage. Get the 750w version of the PSU for $74 less. It will still be more than you'll ever need even with everything overclocked and still have headroom to give you peace of mind.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00EKJQM5E/

4) Swap out the Corsair memory for this G.Skill TridentZ for $37 more. It runs faster and cooler, while also leaving two memory slots open for possible future expansion to 64GB.

www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231973

4) Take the money saved and step up to a GTX 1080 instead of the 1070.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814487244

5) Congratulations. You now officially have a high end gaming PC that can play everything maxed at 1440p and most at 4K. Enjoy!

When will my 2500k not be fine?

If you want to get technical, it will already hold your 1070 back. Now that doesn't mean you won't still have a good experience or not be able to run everything, but it is still a bottleneck. If you don't believe me, try running some CPU intensive games like Witcher 3 GTA 5, Crysis 3, Arma 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Assassin's Creed Syndicate, or Arkham Knight on it. You will notice your CPU is pegged to max whereas GPU usage graphs will wildly fluctuate instead of staying at 99%.
 
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