draughn101
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For those looking for a cheap case, I threw up my Phanteks P400 in the BST thread
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"I Need a New PC!" 2016 Plus Ultra! HBM2, VR, 144Hz, and 4K for all!
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Little input here, I just did an upgrade similar went from 2500k to 6800k.
The 6800k doesn't overclock very well, you are going to want a water cooler like the h110i to dissipate some of the heat if you plan on going above 4ghz. 6 cores is quite a bit faster outside if gaming but not much in gaming.
I went with 32gb of 3200 as well but was unable to hit 3200 and had to stick with 3000 ( I used tridentZ,maybe ripjaw will perform better)
The 950 pro I only got 256 gb was easy to set up and everything boot times didn't change but read and writes are faster.
I still have a 970 waiting in the ti or titan also.
I don't know about the motherboard but it looks good, some new x99 boards were release so maybe look at them if any new features catch your eye.
Just noticed that it would be a g1, any other reputable brands?
Man that monitor looks massive in those photos.
Cute Dragon Here
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Played around with NVIDIA DSR and had a bit of a taste of 4K gaming in my GTX 970 in my desktop which is almost one year old since it's been built.
I think I'm liking what I'm seeing in Skyrim, as the image quality has became so good, even without enabling MSAA or FXAA. I can't seem to maintain a steady 60 FPS anymore when I turn up the MSAA to 4x or more to make the edges even more smooth, or enable ambient occlusion injection. I could do all of them at once when I was playing at 1080p. Didn't feel like enabling FXAA when downsampling is in effect.
Would it be possible that adding a second 970 gives me back enough headroom for it (and/or the Special Edition that's coming soon) to go back to a locked 60? For reference, when MSAA, FXAA, and AO injection are all turned on I can only maintain FPS above 30 at all times, but not 60 by a long shot.
I think I'm liking what I'm seeing in Skyrim, as the image quality has became so good, even without enabling MSAA or FXAA. I can't seem to maintain a steady 60 FPS anymore when I turn up the MSAA to 4x or more to make the edges even more smooth, or enable ambient occlusion injection. I could do all of them at once when I was playing at 1080p. Didn't feel like enabling FXAA when downsampling is in effect.
Would it be possible that adding a second 970 gives me back enough headroom for it (and/or the Special Edition that's coming soon) to go back to a locked 60? For reference, when MSAA, FXAA, and AO injection are all turned on I can only maintain FPS above 30 at all times, but not 60 by a long shot.
Sexy!
Ultrawide VA/OLED HDR >100hz WHEN
While Skyrim OG does support SLI, I would advise against using it as long as there is a stronger single card solution out there. Maybe look into a 1070 once they are readily available?
Depending on where you are located, you should make a fair chunk of money by selling your 970 and maybe look at roughly the cost of a second 970 + 50~100 bucks for a 1070.
Yeah that would be a second mortgage on the house type of purchase.
LostDonkey
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Buy a windows 7/8 key from eBay? Got until 29th of July for the free upgrade Iirc.
HerroRygar
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Apologies if this has already been discussed to death. Is there a good summary of "advanced" monitor features, e.g. g-sync, 144Hz, 1440p, 4k, etc.? Last time I purchased a monitor, all I needed to worry about was making sure it had the correct HDMI port and was 1080p.
I don't really have a sense of which of these upgrades really matter to gamers, how well supported they are, etc.
I don't really have a sense of which of these upgrades really matter to gamers, how well supported they are, etc.
Dave_6
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That looks awesome! I need one.
I built a new PC about 18 months ago and put 8 GB of RAM in it. I want to add more and it's obviously a little cheaper per GB to go to 24 (2x8) instead of 16 (2x4), but I'm not sure it's worth it. I don't do any heavy RAM tasks like audio or video editing. I do run a couple of virtual machines here and there, but they're pretty lightweight and 2 GB is plenty, and they aren't running when I play games or anything. I don't plan to upgrade to a new system for a good 3 years or so.
So, basically, will I just be wasting my money by going to 24 GB RAM or do you think I'll eventually outgrow 16 GB?
So, basically, will I just be wasting my money by going to 24 GB RAM or do you think I'll eventually outgrow 16 GB?
Gsync/FreeSync are great and imo a must-have for any new gaming monitor purchase. Note that Gsync is propietary to Nvidia graphics cards and FreeSync is currently only supported by AMD cards. However, if Nvidia ever sees a reason to, they can support FreeSync as well - in addition to Gsync.
Coming from a fixed refresh 1080p60 monitor, Gsync has elevated my PC gaming experience a lot - no need to worry about screen tearing or hitting native refresh rate, no trade off between input lag or "full" images; set your graphic quality settings to a level you are comfortable with a roll with it. Compatibility isn't much of a concern here; and should you come across a title that spazzes out because of it you can disable it for that specific one with ease.
I have no experience with FreeSync but word is it is a bit inferior in regards to variable refresh rates (for Gsync it's 30-144/165/max refresh). Upside: Monitors are cheaper by quite a huge margin.
High Refresh (>60Hz) is fantastic too, you'll be amazed by the extra smoothness that >80fps brings into games. Your desktop experience will be much smoother and easier on the eyes too at 100+. Support depends on the game/engine. Most games from the past years I played support high refresh. It's not much of a concern if a game doesn't though, you just won't be able to benefit from the potential extra smoothness.
1440p/4K are just higher resolutions. More space to work with on desktop, crisper image quality in games. Only crappy console ports by certain Japanese publishers who think they can
(and unfortunately do)
Maybe I should add 21:9 AR too. I have no experience with it but it definitely is a hot topic in the gaming monitor space right now as well. Support for 21:9 is quite hit or miss from what I read but there is a dedicated community coming up with fixes for the AA(A) games that lack support most of the time. As with the previous points, you can still play games that don't support 21:9 on your monitor. You will simply get black bars on the right side in fullscreen.
Bear in mind that both, high refresh and higher resolutions require a meaty rig. Would recommend a 980ti/1070 or higher to take full advantage of a 1440p144+ or 4k60 monitor. My 970 served me well for the past year at 1440p but it definitely is getting long in the tooth since earlier this year.
I'd say 1440p is the current sweetspot in terms of IQ/framerate ratio and the current state of GPU horsepower. Gsync helps to mitigate framerate inconsistencies and doesn't eat up any performance since the monitor has a seperate module for all things related to that.
As for panel technologies... that's up to your budget and preference. Currently, there are only TN/IPS Gsync monitors anyway. High end VA panels are coming up within the next months and will make there way into new pricey monitors
Depending on your needs, you should make sure your new monitor offers a HDMI port. DisplayPort is the future for PC monitors but HDMI will remain the standard for TV/console. The older (last year and before) Gsync monitors only offer DisplayPort.
Glitchesarecool
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Do you guys have laptop suggestions? My Acer Aspire M5-481PT is starting to fall apart--literally. I occasionally open it to dust the components out and a lot of the plastic bits that the screws screw into have broken. The battery is about an hour and a half and I actually can't use it with the CD drive installed because of a power problem. I looked into getting a new battery because it's still a great laptop, nice and light, key spacing very good for my larger hands, and still plays a bunch of games well even if I have to turn down the settings to low.
I don't want to go full gaming laptop, because I'd rather use my laptop for work on the go and I don't want to break the bank on a new laptop. But I would also like to be able to enjoy games while I'm away from my primary computer. I'd make my upper limit $500 but I'd rather try and get something closer to $300. Any ideas?
I don't want to go full gaming laptop, because I'd rather use my laptop for work on the go and I don't want to break the bank on a new laptop. But I would also like to be able to enjoy games while I'm away from my primary computer. I'd make my upper limit $500 but I'd rather try and get something closer to $300. Any ideas?
FUNKNOWN iXi
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If anyone could help with some recommendations on this, much LUV. So a friend is looking to buy a laptop for college and has come across these three laptops:
Option 1
Option 2
Option 3
Option 4
He'd be using it for your typical college things, so it needs to be good for multitasking. He would also like to do some light gaming on it, so ultra settings for games are not a priority. And he would like to do some audio mixing/composing.
Budget ~$900 - $1,000 --- Also keep in mind that he'll get $150 off because he's going into college. These are 4 options out of a list of laptops that have this sale for pre-college students.
Option 1
Option 2
Option 3
Option 4
He'd be using it for your typical college things, so it needs to be good for multitasking. He would also like to do some light gaming on it, so ultra settings for games are not a priority. And he would like to do some audio mixing/composing.
Budget ~$900 - $1,000 --- Also keep in mind that he'll get $150 off because he's going into college. These are 4 options out of a list of laptops that have this sale for pre-college students.
I'm torn. Currently gaming at 1080p on my 46" passive 3d tv. I want to upgrade to a 4k tv, but worry that there isn't enough content to justify the price at this stage and no pc hardware really suits 4k gaming yet.
I want to upgrade or get a new pc. Given my current specs, What is recommended? For an upgrade I'm thinking rx 480 or gtx 1070. Would my rig support either of those cards assuming they fit?
Current System specs (almost 4 years old):
Case: Bitfenix Prodigy mITX Mini-ITX
Graphics: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 OC 980MHZ 2GB
Mobo: Gigabyte Z77N-WIFI
Cpu: Intel Core i5 3570K @ 4.2
RAM: Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9 Vengeance Lowprofile 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24
Cooling: Cooler Master GeminII S524 CPU Heatsink
Cooling: Bitfenix Spectre Pro 120MM Case Fan 1200 RPM
Hdd: Western Digital 1TB SATA 6GB/S 7200RPM
Hdd: Samsung 830 Series 128GB ssd
psu: Antec HCG-620M 620W
I want to upgrade or get a new pc. Given my current specs, What is recommended? For an upgrade I'm thinking rx 480 or gtx 1070. Would my rig support either of those cards assuming they fit?
Current System specs (almost 4 years old):
Case: Bitfenix Prodigy mITX Mini-ITX
Graphics: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 OC 980MHZ 2GB
Mobo: Gigabyte Z77N-WIFI
Cpu: Intel Core i5 3570K @ 4.2
RAM: Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9 Vengeance Lowprofile 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24
Cooling: Cooler Master GeminII S524 CPU Heatsink
Cooling: Bitfenix Spectre Pro 120MM Case Fan 1200 RPM
Hdd: Western Digital 1TB SATA 6GB/S 7200RPM
Hdd: Samsung 830 Series 128GB ssd
psu: Antec HCG-620M 620W
MikeOfAllTrades
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My G1 1070 arrived today. There was a slight hiccup in finishing the build:
It wouldn't budge. Had to remove one of the H100i's fan's, install the card, then the fan slipped right back in:
About 1 mm clearance. It's like these parts were meant to be:
Glad I went with mITX. The Nano S was a really easy case to build in. I've been dying to finally play Starcraft 2 (not that demanding, I know) and I get a locked 144 framerate with Gsync on and Ultra settings. Absolutely incredible coming from an old Core 2 Duo and GTX 285. Couldn't be happier with this little thing:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($345.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($317.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($196.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($419.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define Nano S Mini ITX Desktop Case ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 144Hz Monitor ($537.00 @ Adorama)
Total: $2137.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-06 20:14 EDT-0400
It wouldn't budge. Had to remove one of the H100i's fan's, install the card, then the fan slipped right back in:
About 1 mm clearance. It's like these parts were meant to be:
Glad I went with mITX. The Nano S was a really easy case to build in. I've been dying to finally play Starcraft 2 (not that demanding, I know) and I get a locked 144 framerate with Gsync on and Ultra settings. Absolutely incredible coming from an old Core 2 Duo and GTX 285. Couldn't be happier with this little thing:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($345.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($317.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($196.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($419.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define Nano S Mini ITX Desktop Case ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 144Hz Monitor ($537.00 @ Adorama)
Total: $2137.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-06 20:14 EDT-0400
Dr.Horrible
Member
Very nice and not far off from what I've got.
I finally settled on thiss build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($345.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S 46.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($57.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-K ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($419.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Samsung U28D590D 28.0" 60Hz Monitor ($399.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1888.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-06 22:06 EDT-0400
All the parts are in hand except for the 1070, the ram, and the monitor. Hoping to get it built next week.
Dr.Horrible
Member
These guys do for $50 last I checked. They also price match.
http://ncixus.com/
I looked into going with them for mine, but have been convinced to try it myself.
NippleViking
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Just built one with cooler master elite 130, not a bad case for $40 I have a non modular PSU and made the cables fit. It would of been a lot easier with a modular one but not terrible. My 1070 fits perfectly with plenty of room to spare.
Buggy Loop
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Im kind of considering upgrading my old 1090T AMD processur, old guy has been a good lil soldier but i think its limiting many games.
I was wondering, if i dont ever use other PCI slots outside of the GPU and no crazy overclocking (no intel k processor anyway), why wouldnt i go with ITX?
ITX cases have become so small, im looking at the silverstone Raven's RVZ02 for example, makes me want to switch from mid towers to small form factor.
It would not be for the TV (although, it makes it much more feasible in the future if i lose the gaming chamber to a future baby -_-; ),
Do ITX mobos have bad power phases?
I was wondering, if i dont ever use other PCI slots outside of the GPU and no crazy overclocking (no intel k processor anyway), why wouldnt i go with ITX?
ITX cases have become so small, im looking at the silverstone Raven's RVZ02 for example, makes me want to switch from mid towers to small form factor.
It would not be for the TV (although, it makes it much more feasible in the future if i lose the gaming chamber to a future baby -_-; ),
Do ITX mobos have bad power phases?
Bloodember
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No, why would they?
Owlowiscious
Member
two weeks later, I made another build. how is this? $0 are things I already own
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fmgd6X
oh, what thermal paste should I buy, or just use the included one
DownGrader
Member
Hi GAF! Please help me to shatter my unrealistic dreams about low-power low-end gaming PC
Currently I have a mini-ITX machine which is powered by a whooping 160W custom PSU. My current processor is Intel Pentium G840 (Sandy Bridge) with reported 65W power consumption. I chose this CPU just because of its low power consumption, and I understood that I won't be able to equip a dedicated graphics card with my PSU so I have to rely on Intel HD Graphics.
Today I stumbled on a craigslist on a fairly cheap Intel Pentium G2010 (Ivy Bridge) with the same performance (CPU clock is the same, CPU performance is a bit higher, GPU core is a bit slower) but with 55W power consumption. I wonder if I can "upgrade" the CPU and install a low-end passive-cooled graphics card. Will I have some benefits aside from freeing up 1 Gb of shared RAM?
Currently I have a mini-ITX machine which is powered by a whooping 160W custom PSU. My current processor is Intel Pentium G840 (Sandy Bridge) with reported 65W power consumption. I chose this CPU just because of its low power consumption, and I understood that I won't be able to equip a dedicated graphics card with my PSU so I have to rely on Intel HD Graphics.
Today I stumbled on a craigslist on a fairly cheap Intel Pentium G2010 (Ivy Bridge) with the same performance (CPU clock is the same, CPU performance is a bit higher, GPU core is a bit slower) but with 55W power consumption. I wonder if I can "upgrade" the CPU and install a low-end passive-cooled graphics card. Will I have some benefits aside from freeing up 1 Gb of shared RAM?
Owlowiscious
Member
I was about to use this case, but pcpartpicker only showed watercooling for my cpu heatsink. what do you have?
ISee
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Hi GAF! Please help me to shatter my unrealistic dreams about low-power low-end gaming PC
Currently I have a mini-ITX machine which is powered by a whooping 160W custom PSU. My current processor is Intel Pentium G840 (Sandy Bridge) with reported 65W power consumption. I chose this CPU just because of its low power consumption, and I understood that I won't be able to equip a dedicated graphics card with my PSU so I have to rely on Intel HD Graphics.
Today I stumbled on a craigslist on a fairly cheap Intel Pentium G2010 (Ivy Bridge) with the same performance (CPU clock is the same, CPU performance is a bit higher, GPU core is a bit slower) but with 55W power consumption. I wonder if I can "upgrade" the CPU and install a low-end passive-cooled graphics card. Will I have some benefits aside from freeing up 1 Gb of shared RAM?
Might work with something like the Palit GeForce GTX 750 Ti KalmX. The calculated power consumption is around 90W under load
Of course that's already very close to your maximum and doesn't factor in the rest of your system. Also your PSU will most probably not be able to deliver constant 160W etc. So there is no guarantee for working probably under load, but down clocking the GPU and decreasing the Power limit (with tools like afterburner) might bring GPU power consumption further down...
Performance wise, yes going from an Ivy/sandybridge pentium iGPU to the 750Ti is a huge step up.
DownGrader
Member
Hmm, considering that this thing won't fit in my case, it would be better for me to just buy a new case alongside with at least 250W PSU. The card seems nice for what it's worth, though, and downclocking isn't something I've ever thought of. Thanks!
DarknessTear
Banned
Hm, weird. Ever since I installed my new processor, motherboard and ram my PC is having weird crashes. Programs not starting or shutting down properly and random 100% CPU usage once. RIP SSD? I dunno.
metareferential
Member
You don't really need particular tools; maybe one of those anti-static bracelet if you want to be 100% safe.
Depending on your case you might need a screwdriver. Everything else is just plain and simple connecting thing with your hands xD
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
all i used was a star screwdriver, isopropyl alcohol wipes, and a led torch.
the alcohol wipes are just to remove thermal paste if you need to. i thought i put too much on my CPU so wiped it off and reapplied. everything should just slide, screw, and clip into place.
clockworkinyou
Banned
I want to make the jump to 144hz, but would like to stay at 1080p, since I don't want to upgrade everything to make a substantial impact into 1440p. Is this still a great 144hz monitor for the money ($230)? It's been out for awhile, any word of new one coming out?
Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/rkphP6/asus-monitor-vg248qe
Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/rkphP6/asus-monitor-vg248qe
Still good. Supports Lightboost and has a display port. Asus is releasing a 180hz and 240hz 1080p monitor. They were announced at Computex, but no actual date.
Excuse me if this has been asked, For anyone familiar with this case.
But what slim optical drive (Blu-ray) would anyone suggest for the Node 804 and did it require much modification to get it to align with the exterior of the case?
Also an additional question, when used for gaming, were the case fans sufficient or did you add additional fans? I would like to place a 1070 inside.
Thanks in advance to anyone with experience with this case.
But what slim optical drive (Blu-ray) would anyone suggest for the Node 804 and did it require much modification to get it to align with the exterior of the case?
Also an additional question, when used for gaming, were the case fans sufficient or did you add additional fans? I would like to place a 1070 inside.
Thanks in advance to anyone with experience with this case.
Do you plan on overclocking? An itx doesn't seem like a great choice for the 6800k heat wise.
Owlowiscious
Member
no, just want a small box i can carry around to show vr
lostsupper
Banned
Fractal Design Nano S.
Hi guys!
I guess this is the right place to ask. I build a PC with a i7 6700k and a 212 Evo, but I'm not sure about the temps.
Running the UE4 editor, the cpu goes to full load, but the temps doesn't seem right.
One core goes about 80c max, and other stays at 65c max.
Is that difference between cores ok?? What about those max temps?
I guess this is the right place to ask. I build a PC with a i7 6700k and a 212 Evo, but I'm not sure about the temps.
Running the UE4 editor, the cpu goes to full load, but the temps doesn't seem right.
One core goes about 80c max, and other stays at 65c max.
Is that difference between cores ok?? What about those max temps?
Ok, never mind. I guess I'll have to find a different one.
That's my case. I like it. It was really easy to build in and manage my cables. If you're worried about dust know that it doesn't have screens on the side/top vents so you'll have to take care of that if you think it'll be an issue.
For the price I'm extremely happy with it.
Thanks for the advice. After some further research, I've discovered that despise my edit, the non-windowed model is still in stock (which is fine, because I don't see any need for a window, anyway)
How does it compare to the NZXT S340? I've pretty much narrowed it down to those two, so I'd greatly appreciate any help.
I'm using the Corsair H55, a stock heat sink or swallow one might work kinda tight there cause of the PSU.
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