RumblingRosco
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The same card is in the mail to me now. After looking at quite a few, that one seemed like a great choice for being on the lower end of the 1080 Ti price range.
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"I Need a New PC!" 2017 The Ryzing of Kaby Lake and NVMwhee!
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The same card is in the mail to me now. After looking at quite a few, that one seemed like a great choice for being on the lower end of the 1080 Ti price range.
Thats a hell of a deal. Showing 1400 plus tax now
was tempted to replace my 3770k and 780 with that.https://choosemypc.net/ca/?budget=1200&oc=true&options=
For $1300 you can get a GPU with 4GB of VRAM (pretty much the minimum you should have if you want to run anything AAA at 1080p/60 these days) and for $1400 you can get one with 8 GB (though I'd use that money to go up to 16 GB of RAM)
RumblingRosco
Member
Can anyone recommend a good wifi adapter? Looking for one that can handle at least 160 Mbps, Wireless A/C, and 5 GHz frequencies. Mine seems to be on the fritz - it's about 6 years old and just randomly cuts out from time-to-time, especially under periods of heavy uploading. Tested my wired ethernet connection and I have zero issues. Tested the wifi adapter on two PCs and the same problem occurs. Tested another wifi adapter (from my wife's PC) and have no issues with it. So, I conclude my wifi adapter is dying.
Any advice for a new one to buy?
Any advice for a new one to buy?
TP-Link makes solid adapters for the price. I have this one that I purchased on sale: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704237
They have them across a variety of speeds, so just search for the one you think is appropriate.
Blak_Status
Member
I want to upgrade my i5-3570k for cemu emulation. What are my best options right now?
TC McQueen
Member
Ryzen 5 1600(X)/Ryzen 7 1700 or i7-7700K.
Snakethesniper
Member
thanks!
Thats a hell of a deal. Showing 1400 plus tax now
Use coupon code for another $100 off.
$100OFF$1300PC
The PC is regular $1800.
I bit the bullet on a Corsair One Pro w/ 1080GTX... should arrive tomorrow.
Also picked up:
A 1440p 144hz dell monitor with G-sync
a 1080p 60hz monitor for a secondary display
my first ever mechanical keyboard (cherry brown switches)
Dual Shock 4 controller for bluetooth goodness
Bose Revolve+ as a decent desk speaker system.
I've never had a proper gaming rig before... I'm so fucking excited. Also my wallet hurts.
Also picked up:
A 1440p 144hz dell monitor with G-sync
a 1080p 60hz monitor for a secondary display
my first ever mechanical keyboard (cherry brown switches)
Dual Shock 4 controller for bluetooth goodness
Bose Revolve+ as a decent desk speaker system.
I've never had a proper gaming rig before... I'm so fucking excited. Also my wallet hurts.
I see Rise of the Tomb Raider in like every benchmark video. Maybe that? I haven't played it myself.
MGSV, GTAV and The Division are also decent picks.
sleepnaught
Member
Are we still expecting Coffee Lake next month? Last rumor I read mentioned a launch with z370 chipset and the z390 chipset in Q1 2018. The leaked clockrate puts it at 3.5ghz - 4.0gh, turbo, would it make sense to keep waiting for Coffee Lake if it clocks lower than Kaby Lake?
RumblingRosco
Member
Starting to worry something is wrong with my CPU cooling. Case is relatively cool, but when I run Prime95 on my Ryzen 1700 in the Small FTT mode the CPU gets to about 92-93C. That's at 1.285 volts and a 3.7 GHz OC. CPU idles at about 50C. This is based on AMD's Ryzen Master software temp reading. Using the stock Wraith Cooler in standard fan curves.
HWInfo says the CPU hits about 102C in the Prime95 test. Not sure if I trust that or the AMD software.
Maybe I need to reseat the CPU cooler with a fresh application of thermal paste?
HWInfo says the CPU hits about 102C in the Prime95 test. Not sure if I trust that or the AMD software.
Maybe I need to reseat the CPU cooler with a fresh application of thermal paste?
What brand are you using? Some of them take time to fully set in.
RumblingRosco
Member
Arctic MX-4.
That doesn't have any cure time.
Vinsanity.
Member
So what's the best bang-for-the-buck Socket 1151 CPU right now? I have an 1151 motherboard that was given to me, and need to buy a CPU for it. (The BIOS on it supports Skylake and Kaby Lake)
RumblingRosco
Member
I guess I should remove the heat sink, clean the thermal paste off, and reapply? Seems like the easiest first test.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
7700K is generally considered the best at the moment since it's newer but if you can find a 6700K for cheaper then get that.
they are pretty much identical though. a 6700K running at 4.5GHz performs same as a 7700K at 4.5GHz (same IPC). the 7700K can possibly hit 5.0Ghz when overclocked but it seems people are reporting they run quite hot and have decided to delid them. A 7700K has higher stock speeds (4.2/4.5 vs 4.0/4.2), has improved performance in 3d/4k playback, support for newer video standards and intel optane memory. also running older OS versions than windows 10 isn't supported on kabylake.
LQX
Member
No, let someone else buy it and sell it for twice that price on EBay. Of course you should jump on it.
Go for it. Can probably still get $50 for your old card.
For gaming? I'd say i5-6500 or i5-7500.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
if not interested in overclocking then yeah but if the motherboard supports it and you want to get as much life out of it then should go for a 6700/7700K.
Also: If you're in Canada, you can always price match via Mike's Computer Shop, since they may beat the prices listed on PC Part Picker, thus you could stretch your budget a bit further to get better components or save yourself a sizable amount of money.
Probably not. If it were just the CPU investment then maybe.
A 1600 is faster, but you'd be looking at a minimum at a CPU+Mobo+DDR4 upgrade and the benefit is unlikely to make up for the investment.
If you're in satisfied with gaming performance a GPU upgrade would likely make more sense, or an SSD boot drive if you don't have one yet.
ColdDeckEd
Member
Coffee lake desktop will not release next month. No chance. Earliest would be nov imo. But im expecting dec-jan.
It would be nice if they were more specific about which motherboard they got. Still, those CPUs are no slouch at all and they are pretty good bang for the buck for gaming. An overclockable one is only that much better.
I decided not to go the laptop with eGPU route and instead just beef up my desktop. i7-4790 and a GTX 970.
My Evo HD 850 1TB SSD arrives tomorrow - I had a $75 Amazon gift card left over from my birthday. So after work I'll be using the Samsung migration tool to move everything over.
Next week I plan on picking out a 1440p monitor, still trying to decide if I want 27" or 32" (scanning this thread for ideas).
And then finally, shortly before Destiny 2 launches for PC, I intend on getting the smallest-sized GTX 1070 or 1080 I can find for less than $500. I may end up getting a 1070 much sooner though, because it looks like prices keep climbing. Though I may just not be looking hard enough.
My Evo HD 850 1TB SSD arrives tomorrow - I had a $75 Amazon gift card left over from my birthday. So after work I'll be using the Samsung migration tool to move everything over.
Next week I plan on picking out a 1440p monitor, still trying to decide if I want 27" or 32" (scanning this thread for ideas).
And then finally, shortly before Destiny 2 launches for PC, I intend on getting the smallest-sized GTX 1070 or 1080 I can find for less than $500. I may end up getting a 1070 much sooner though, because it looks like prices keep climbing. Though I may just not be looking hard enough.
RumblingRosco
Member
After removing the heatsink, cleaning off the thermal paste, removing my PSU so I could hold the backplate in, applying fresh thermal paste, and reattaching the heatsink, I was still seeing high idle temps (45C), although that's still a bit better Jan before by 3-5C idle.
So I was concerned still. Turns out, I misread the fan curve settings in the BIOS and basically had them running at low speeds even near high temps. I won't have time to really test it tonight but I flipped the fan curve and in the few minutes I've had it sit at idle, temps are in the upper 30s and actually dropping a bit (they'd been sitting higher than even 60C while I was fiddling with the fan curves. Seems promising so far.
PlayALLtheGames
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If it's a 1440p I'd go 32".
And I'd hold out for a 1080 if you're waiting as long as D2.
Emulators in general benefit more from higher clock speed and especially for CEMU. So there is one.
Celcius
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Just watched a really good video on the basics of putting together a water cooling system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR9jEczwCZ4
Thanks!
Now you've got me justifying the price difference.... and honestly I'm more likely to just spend the extra few hundred bucks.
Will try this, thanks.
Would Dell be using lower quality components, though? In other words, is the value really there?
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
A basic water build with soft tubing is a lot easier than most people think. Given that you can get main components like CPU blocks for as low as 70 bucks it's also not as expensive as people believe. More expensive than air/hybrid obviously but can be done quite affordably. Leaking is fairly easy to avoid with soft tubes. Also you don't need to be going for 4K and a million Ghz and care about benchmarks to use it. Ultimately it's a great way to have a barely-audible system with lower temps; better performance, stability and max potential under OC. For many it's not worth it but I think it'd be worth it for more people if they realized how doable it is at a reasonable cost.
I think anyone who has built a few air/hybrid machines should take a stab at a water rig.
RandomExpletive
Member
Woohoo, case arrived today, rushed home from work and moved the internals from my old case to the new one! And this time I did cable management! IT LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER THAN MY OLD CASE!
Sadly my 390 basically blocks the RBG header so my CPU cooler can't join the rave. I'll get around to making that fit eventually, just glad everything works.
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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/NQwCCLf.jpg[/IMG]Sadly my 390 basically blocks the RBG header so my CPU cooler can't join the rave. I'll get around to making that fit eventually, just glad everything works.
BolognaOni
Member
Quality of the components is fine, if not better than average. Dell puts a lot of work into making sure their systems don't fail within the warranty period.
What you usually lose buying pre-built is not quality, but flexibility. Anything that wasn't required to be on the motherboard/power supply/case is probably taken out. It's "cost optimized".
Basically, if you don't want to mess with your PC at all after the initial build (or fiddle much with overclocking) there is little downside to a pre-built.
Of course, if you like fiddling with PC hardware, buying a pre-built is not a good idea.
I mean its probably not as good as buying custom parts but from my experience with Dell and hearing from others is that the parts are decent quality. Apparently they even use some custom cooler on the 1700x as it doesn't come with one. According to a Dell rep its equipped with one of these: http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/amd/wraith-max-and-wraith-spire-cooler/1 They also offer a liquid cooled option for $100 more, I didn't bother though.
The warranty they provide is decent too, with other options of course.
Details on the motherboard (from redflag deals)
Check out the red flag deals thread.
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/dell...amd-1700x-gtx-1060-6gb-1320-w-coupon-2110177/
It appears Dell has upped it by $50 now though. Must be selling too many. Still less than building your own. I may end up getting another stick of ram to make it 16GB at some point. It has 8 with an empty slot sill from what they have found. Dell wants $150 to upgrade it to 16GB, this would be cheaper to do on your own later on.
So I'm working with this build that Jafku suggested, but I just discovered that the case has inputs on the top which wouldn't work for where I'd place it. Any suggestions on an alternative? I scanned through part picker and didn't really know what to look for when it comes to cases (or much else)
Thanks. The savings aren't really there anymore compared to custom builds, at least from what I can tell. But I might end up doing it anyway if I'm feeling less adventurous...
Jezbollah
Member
If you're talking about the front IO every motherboard has a dedicated socket for that - check the instructions.
RamaTheVoice
Member
I think he means that having the front ports at the top of the case is impractical given where the tower will be.
I can't actually think of any good mid-tower cases with front inputs that aren't on the top...
E: Corsair Air 540 or Cooler Master HAF XB II EVO maybe?
I'd go with the suggestions the poster above made
Corsair Air 540:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/wgkD4D/corsair-case-air540
Cooler Master HAF XB EVO:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/WT8Zxr/cooler-master-case-rc902xbkkn2
Corsair 200R:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/cTQypg/corsair-case-200r
Phantoms Enthoo Pro M has the ports on the side?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/jrVBD3/phanteks-case-phes515pbk
Fried Food
Banned
Just put my order in for the Gigabyte AORUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Xtreme Edition 11GB and a new PSU. Feels so damn good.
RumblingRosco
Member
Still need to tinker with fan curves and maybe some other things like voltage, but I've got my Ryzen 1700 at 3.7 GHz running at upper 40C while playing WoW and doing a few other things... It was at low 50C just idle before my adjustments.
Still need to stress test of course, but wanted to make sure it didn't over heat in real-world use first.
Still need to stress test of course, but wanted to make sure it didn't over heat in real-world use first.
MechaDekka
Neo Member
Ok, so my build is finally up and running, but the temps are weird. It's an R7 1700x that is overclocked to 3.6ghz. The temp in the UEFI is 60 degrees and the temp in Asus AI suite is also 60. Under load the temps only increase by about 5 degrees. However, when I look at the Ryzen Master software it says 30 degrees at idle. Should I be concerned?
That build looks good. Better video card and more ram too. Only thing missing is an SSD and OS from the Dell. Although you can install and use win 10 for free. Just lose a few features apparently. Or get a cheap key from CD keys etc.