RumblingRosco
Member
I believe the 1700x has a -20C offset applied to it that fools most software, but the Ryzen Master software outputs the correct amount. I think.
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"I Need a New PC!" 2017 The Ryzing of Kaby Lake and NVMwhee!
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I believe the 1700x has a -20C offset applied to it that fools most software, but the Ryzen Master software outputs the correct amount. I think.
Yeah, exactly.
Unfortunately, these are all a bit too big.
Any thoughts on the Fractal Design Define Mini C MicroATX Mid Tower Case:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/jrVBD3/phanteks-case-phes515pbk
Ultimately it's the right size, even with the inputs on the top. I just want to make sure there are no deal breakers...?
Edit- looks like it may not be compatible
Edit 2 - hmmm the Corsair Carbide 400C looks like it would work.....thoughts?
Edit 3 - aaaand nm they do their dimensions LxWxH, not the reverse, so it doesn't work
I actually bought an SSD on sale almost a year ago and have a way of getting the OS separately. So I'm good! But thanks
Sorry for the dp but...
Just on the verge of pulling the trigger on purchasing parts for my build but the case size has been a set back. I'm determined to find something that fits comfortably in my desk's 'cubby hole' that was ostensibly designed for this purpose (apparently years back when PCs were a bit smaller).
Dimensions of the spot are:
18H x 9.5W x 19.5L
Would need a bit of space on the W and L, but the problem has really been the height (case must be 17in tall max if there are top inputs). Anything short enough that I've seen is instead too wide.
Is there a way to search for cases by dimensions? Any slightly smaller cases that come to mind?
I'm aware that I might be boned here and may need to just put the case alongside the desk but I'd like to confirm that there are no options first...
Just on the verge of pulling the trigger on purchasing parts for my build but the case size has been a set back. I'm determined to find something that fits comfortably in my desk's 'cubby hole' that was ostensibly designed for this purpose (apparently years back when PCs were a bit smaller).
Dimensions of the spot are:
18H x 9.5W x 19.5L
Would need a bit of space on the W and L, but the problem has really been the height (case must be 17in tall max if there are top inputs). Anything short enough that I've seen is instead too wide.
Is there a way to search for cases by dimensions? Any slightly smaller cases that come to mind?
I'm aware that I might be boned here and may need to just put the case alongside the desk but I'd like to confirm that there are no options first...
Bloodember
Member
If you need something small stop looking at towers and look at desktop and HTCP cases. You might also have to switch to mITX. If your not going to need more than a graphics card in your computer that would be a great move anyway. mITX isn't any different in performance than ATX or mATX now a days.
opticalmace
Member
Is it completely enclosed? You're gonna want some airflow.
so the Define mini c is the case i'm currently using in my build. love it. The only thing you would need to change is the motherboard
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4dP6zM
edited build with a define mini c an micro atx motherboard
The Hamburglar
Banned
tech help question here.
I recently moved into my new house with fibre up and running. However, my laptop can get the full speed of 50mbs and a ping of 10 through wifi, where as my PC using an Ethernet cable gets less than half of that AND a ping of 50.
My PC is in another room to the router and the cable I am running looks about 20 metres in length. Now I have used this cable in the past (not in the last year) and it was fine I think.
I recently moved into my new house with fibre up and running. However, my laptop can get the full speed of 50mbs and a ping of 10 through wifi, where as my PC using an Ethernet cable gets less than half of that AND a ping of 50.
My PC is in another room to the router and the cable I am running looks about 20 metres in length. Now I have used this cable in the past (not in the last year) and it was fine I think.
Noted, thanks
It's quite open, so shouldn't be an issue.
There it is! I actually looked into the Define Mini C and was disappointed when it wasn't showing as compatible. Thanks for sorting that out. I'm guessing the motherboard switch doesn't come with any consequences?
not immediately. fwiw I have a micro atx case and mobo. I didn't run into any issues so far
Which type of CAT cable is it? If it isn't Cat 6, try some 6.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
Thanks, will switch, not even sure when the 580 will be back in stock.
Thoughts?
Motherboard: Biostar RACING X370GTN Mini ITX Motherboard
CPU: Ryzen:1700 8 Core @ 3.7 GHz
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 at 3000 Mhz - 32 GB
GPU: MSI NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1060 6GB
Primary Storage: WD M.2 500 GB
Secondary Storage: WD 3TB 3.5"
PSU: Corsair 550 W 80+ Bronze
Case: Fractal Design Define Nano S
TOTAL: £1201.89
Purpose: Gaming at 1080p/75Hz, Video Editing/CAD/, some virtualisation.
Items on sale right now so wanting to drop on it but just making sure everything is good to go. coming from a Q6600 at 3.0Ghz and a ANMD RX260 with 6GB Corsair DDR2 for system ram.
Hoping for 4.0Ghz for OC, but it's pushing it on a 1700, might get a AIO later to do it.
Motherboard: Biostar RACING X370GTN Mini ITX Motherboard
CPU: Ryzen:1700 8 Core @ 3.7 GHz
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 at 3000 Mhz - 32 GB
GPU: MSI NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1060 6GB
Primary Storage: WD M.2 500 GB
Secondary Storage: WD 3TB 3.5"
PSU: Corsair 550 W 80+ Bronze
Case: Fractal Design Define Nano S
TOTAL: £1201.89
Purpose: Gaming at 1080p/75Hz, Video Editing/CAD/, some virtualisation.
Items on sale right now so wanting to drop on it but just making sure everything is good to go. coming from a Q6600 at 3.0Ghz and a ANMD RX260 with 6GB Corsair DDR2 for system ram.
Hoping for 4.0Ghz for OC, but it's pushing it on a 1700, might get a AIO later to do it.
RumblingRosco
Member
Uh, that motherboard isn't compatible with your Ryzen. Like at all.
Wait lemme double-check that.
Never mind, seems fine. PCPartPicker is being weird with it though and not letting me select that MB with that CPU.
At your old place, you had fibre as well? Could be the network drivers or whatever on your PC.
RumblingRosco
Member
I'd stick with the 550w. It'll give you room to upgrade later if you so desire, where as the 450w would be a limiting factor. For the £3 difference, I'd say that is worth it.
I have the WD M.2 Black SSD. If you get a great deal on one then it's decent, but without a special sale it's a bit underwhelming compared to most other M.2 drives. If you can get a Samsung 960 Evo for not too much more then that would be a worthwhile upgrade.
RumblingRosco
Member
Cool, looks like I am ready to go
Oh, and about your overclock. Personally, I think 4 GHz on a 1700 with the Wraith (stock) cooler is not an easy feat. You can definitely try, but make sure you monitor your temps closely when you mess with overclocking, and don't be too surprised if you need that AIO cooler sooner rather than later
Was thinking of the Samsung EVO but went over my budget :|
Oh, and about your overclock. Personally, I think 4 GHz on a 1700 with the Wraith (stock) cooler is not an easy feat. You can definitely try, but make sure you monitor your temps closely when you mess with overclocking, and don't be too surprised if you need that AIO cooler sooner rather than later
Will do
saw some YT videos and most people only got 3.8ghz on air.For most tasks both will likely be fast enough, so it's not like it'll be a major flaw in your system with the WD drive.
Dutch Microwave
Member
How many ethereum mining assholes do I need to shank before 1070 prices go back to normal?
Goddamit,my 970 couldnt have picked a worse time to die on me.
Goddamit,my 970 couldnt have picked a worse time to die on me.
mambadragon
Banned
2500k at 4.6GHz owner checking in who now has the funds to do a processor/mobo/RAM upgrade. I still play at 1200p but hope to update the monitor sooner rather than later, maybe to 4K.
Anywell, I kind of want to get a Ryzen chip to support the competition (and I like to support the little guy), but is there any logical reason I should do a Ryzen 6/8 core over an Intel 76/700k? My desktop is just used for gaming. Quick Googling tells me that Intel still dominates for gaming.
Edit: I generally plan my upgrades for 4 years (the 2500k is an abnormality which is still powerful enough in its 6th year). So my "future planning" is for that 4-year time period.
Anywell, I kind of want to get a Ryzen chip to support the competition (and I like to support the little guy), but is there any logical reason I should do a Ryzen 6/8 core over an Intel 76/700k? My desktop is just used for gaming. Quick Googling tells me that Intel still dominates for gaming.
Edit: I generally plan my upgrades for 4 years (the 2500k is an abnormality which is still powerful enough in its 6th year). So my "future planning" is for that 4-year time period.
TC McQueen
Member
Ryzen 6/8 core CPUs give you a bit more cushion when playing games that have heavily multithreaded engines, like Frostbite 3 games.
Also, it can let you get a decent boost in old UE3 games if you follow this guide and let the game use 4 cores for shaders.
opticalmace
Member
What GPU do you have btw?
RandomExpletive
Member
Hmm, wonder if this would work for Rocket League...
opticalmace
Member
Intel Pentium CPU G3258
8.00 GB RAM
windows 8.1
AMD Radeon R7 200 series 2GB
EVGA 500 B1, 80+ BRONZE 500W Power Supply
BIT Fenix NEOS case.
I'm not in college anymore so I guess I can afford to splurge a bit.
What is a good value-for-dollar 32" 1440p monitor? I don't need top of the line specs, just at least 75Hz.
I feel you. I was going to get a 1070 this month or the next. Now I'm in an indefinite holding pattern.
I feel you. I was going to get a 1070 this month or the next. Now I'm in an indefinite holding pattern.
Hey guys, I just transfered my hardware into a NZXT s340 Elite. Love the look of the case but my stock cpu cooler is ruining everything. I was looking into getting a Kraken x62, but I was was wondering if I could install it without having to remove the motherboard from the case, don't feel like going through all that again right away.
Thanks. 👍
Thanks. 👍
RamaTheVoice
Member
If your case has a window behind the area of the mobo where the CPU is (so you can access it from the back) you should be fine. You may have to remove your RAM or GPU for comfort, but that should be all.
IbukiLordSA
Member
PC Gaf please help, I hope this is the right place for this.
I have an issue on my PC, I bought a new one or rather second hand and I am having issues with the graphics. The seller is very reputable and is willing to help as much as possible so I don't know if this is hardware or software related.
I only bought this to play Tekken 7
Specs are:
Intel i5 4670S
intel dh87rl
8gb RAM
MSI gtx 960 2gb
SANDISK SSD PLUS 240gb
Windows 10
450w PSU
Everything is up to date, drivers and windows.
I don't have anything else installed except for Steam with Tekken 7 and Bayonetta. I have checked the files on steam and it says everything is fine.
Basically I can be playing for 5 minutes or 40 minutes when all of a sudden the screen losing signal and the sound is gone. The PC continues to run but I cannot get any picture until I restart. I have monitoring on there and the logs show the graphics card never going above 57 degrees so I am certain this is not an overheating issue.
I have tried almost everything, my last test is going to be running the video over a DVI cable and having the sound come from the MB to see if the game is still running in the background and it's the card that might be faulty, but not sure what else to check. Event Viewer also shows me no errors before this happens, the only error I get is after reboot telling me the system did not shut down properly.
Sadly I don't have a spare card to test.
I have an issue on my PC, I bought a new one or rather second hand and I am having issues with the graphics. The seller is very reputable and is willing to help as much as possible so I don't know if this is hardware or software related.
I only bought this to play Tekken 7
Specs are:
Intel i5 4670S
intel dh87rl
8gb RAM
MSI gtx 960 2gb
SANDISK SSD PLUS 240gb
Windows 10
450w PSU
Everything is up to date, drivers and windows.
I don't have anything else installed except for Steam with Tekken 7 and Bayonetta. I have checked the files on steam and it says everything is fine.
Basically I can be playing for 5 minutes or 40 minutes when all of a sudden the screen losing signal and the sound is gone. The PC continues to run but I cannot get any picture until I restart. I have monitoring on there and the logs show the graphics card never going above 57 degrees so I am certain this is not an overheating issue.
I have tried almost everything, my last test is going to be running the video over a DVI cable and having the sound come from the MB to see if the game is still running in the background and it's the card that might be faulty, but not sure what else to check. Event Viewer also shows me no errors before this happens, the only error I get is after reboot telling me the system did not shut down properly.
Sadly I don't have a spare card to test.
PC Gaf please help, I hope this is the right place for this.
I have an issue on my PC, I bought a new one or rather second hand and I am having issues with the graphics. The seller is very reputable and is willing to help as much as possible so I don't know if this is hardware or software related.
I only bought this to play Tekken 7
Specs are:
Intel i5 4670S
intel dh87rl
8gb RAM
MSI gtx 960 2gb
SANDISK SSD PLUS 240gb
Windows 10
450w PSU
Everything is up to date, drivers and windows.
I don't have anything else installed except for Steam with Tekken 7 and Bayonetta. I have checked the files on steam and it says everything is fine.
Basically I can be playing for 5 minutes or 40 minutes when all of a sudden the screen losing signal and the sound is gone. The PC continues to run but I cannot get any picture until I restart. I have monitoring on there and the logs show the graphics card never going above 57 degrees so I am certain this is not an overheating issue.
I have tried almost everything, my last test is going to be running the video over a DVI cable and having the sound come from the MB to see if the game is still running in the background and it's the card that might be faulty, but not sure what else to check. Event Viewer also shows me no errors before this happens, the only error I get is after reboot telling me the system did not shut down properly.
Sadly I don't have a spare card to test.
Reseat the GPU and try a new cable (HDMI, I assume).
mambadragon
Banned
Gtx 970
IbukiLordSA
Member
Thanks, I have removed the GPU and connected it again but have not tried a new cable, I switch this cable back and fourth with my PS4, so assumed it would be fine. I'm going to run it tonight off DVI and see if anything changes.
That's a great information, but it couldn't help me, sadly. I asked amazon if they still take it back. Maybe I can find some working Ram...
RumblingRosco
Member
What are the CPU temperatures? You mentioned GPU, but not CPU. It's possible the CPU is some how overheating, though it wouldn't be my first guess. Easy to monitor CPU temps with the various software listed in the OP of this thread.
Buggy Loop
Member
ASRock & Gigabyte just released AM4 mini ITX motherboards, get biostar the fuck out of that list!
ColdDeckEd
Member
You can install it without taking the mtherboard out.
IbukiLordSA
Member
I haven't taken note of the CPU temps because the machine never shuts down, I've had cpu temp issues before which resulted in the machine shutting down but in this case everything is still running just the screen loses signal. I will take note of the CPU on the next test.
RumblingRosco
Member
Yeah, I'm not expecting that to be the issue, but it's so easy to check that you might as well.
FYI to everyone: Microcenter has dropped the price of the Ryzen 1700 to $280 from $300. You can use this coupon for $5 off of a $30 or more purchase to get the price to $275 before tax. This also can combo with their $50 off any compatible motherboard deal.
I bought my Ryzen 1700 from them 13 days ago. Gonna see if I can go in and get a price match to get my $20 difference back... I think they'll let me since it's within the return window. Worst case I just return the CPU, get my money back, and buy the new one at the discounted price.
Bananajama
Banned
Pre-ordered a Gigabyte 580 8GB off Amazon
Wonder how long the wait will be!
Wonder how long the wait will be!