opticalmace
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In that case, make sure you post pictures of your build.
What cooler are you going to use btw?
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In that case, make sure you post pictures of your build.
What cooler are you going to use btw?Beaver Mucus
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In that case, make sure you post pictures of your build.
I've picked these parts (This is from a Swedish site, since I'm Swedish) and the price ends up at about $6500.
ISee
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? I even posted a very reputable source + evidence. But okay... It's not true as long Tech Report doesn't write about it.
opticalmace
Member
? I even posted a very reputable source + evidence. But okay... It's not true as long Tech Report doesn't write about it.
OK.
ISee
Member
Good.
The included wraith cooler seems to be quiet capable, not the best solution for overclocking but ~3.8 GHz should be doable. The H100i series is a very good performer, but it is also loud and noisy, especially with the stock corsair fans. Keep that in mind before buying one.
Just one more addition: DDR4 3600 MHz is a great pick for ryzen, but reaching that ram oc can be tricky and I'm not entirely sure if an asrock micro ATX board will be able to do it. I don't want to trash talk ASrock here, because I'm not even sure a 'premium' MSI or Asus board is able to push the ram to 3600MHz all the time, even on 3600+ certified ram. So just keep in mind that ram isn't guaranteed to reach certain oc profiles before spending a premium on it. But if it works, great!
Reposting to a new page.
Regarding the z370 boards, do we know by now if they will be compatible with the CPUs coming after coffeelake? This really looks like a dick move by Intel and I didn't think they would afford doing it specially when ryzen is doing so well.
Vulcano's assistant
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I've picked these parts (This is from a Swedish site, since I'm Swedish) and the price ends up at about $6500.
Wait a second. Is the 7920X out already out?
How does it compare with Threadripper 1920X and 1950X ?
edit: I don't see anything yet.
Beaver I would wait for benchmarks.
JonnyDBrit
Member
No. While Cannonlake is known to be a thing, and is in some way related to Coffee Lake, there's no telling if they'll actually allow people the upgrade path, or will do as they've done now and tweak just enough to render the CPUs incompatible with 300 series chipsets.
There's been speculation that the success and potential of Ryzen has kinda thrown Intel for a loop, hence their rush to get the X299 platform out the door before Threadripper.
InquisitorAles
Member
So, i bought new GPU recently and i guess some folks from here would be interested in results:
Speaking about graphical settings, i tested GTX 1080ti, changed only GPU (old one was GTX 770). Turned on every feature and settings to ultra, and after comparing benchmark results i guess i did right thing that didn't bought 4K monitor. Even 1080ti can't handle stable 60FPS with all shit enabled in most graphically demanding games.
For example, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided (Ultra settings, MSAA x4):
GTX 770
Average: 23.6 FPS
Min: 7.9 FPS
Max: 30 FPS
GTX 1080ti
Average: 50.1 FPS
Min: 7.9 FPS
Max: 62.2 FPS
Rise of the Tomb Raider (Ultra, SSAA x4):
GTX 770
GTX 1080ti
Far Cry Primal
GTX 770
Average: 29 FPS
Min: 38 FPS
Max: 62.2 FPS
GTX 1080ti
Average: 73 FPS
Min: 47 FPS
Max: 90 FPS
System specs except GPU remains the same, CPU i5-3507k and 8gb DDR3, DX11, 1920x1080. Not sure if CPU and memory are bottleneck in this case, but personally i just got confirmation that it's not the right time to upgrade for 4K and better wait another 2-3 years for new GPU and monitors generations.
Snakethesniper
Member
Anyone has experience with the ASUS VX228H ?
Deus Ex: MD is an extremely demanding game compared to the original one and to other games recently at max settings. It seems to be a tough game to run at a consistent 60fps with all bells and whistles on.
RotTR is a game that actually runs wayyyy better on i7 and other multithreaded CPUs. You will hit some slight bottlenecks on an i5 with RotTR, especially in sections like the Geothermal Valley. But yes, it can be a demanding game regardless.
Murdamonk
Member
Anybody else having an issue with their Asus Crosshair Hero VI x370 and the time in BIOS?
Mine always reset to PST time (i am in the EST zone) everytime i turn off the computer.
I have tried taking out the battery, changing the battery, update the BIOS to 1501... But nothing has work so far.
Because of it, Windows clock is messed up..
Mine always reset to PST time (i am in the EST zone) everytime i turn off the computer.
I have tried taking out the battery, changing the battery, update the BIOS to 1501... But nothing has work so far.
Because of it, Windows clock is messed up..
ISee
Member
Your CPU is for sure a bottleneck for a 1080Ti. That said, you can hold out on it if you really want to and I'd even recommend waiting before making an upgrade decision for Intel's 8000 series to become available anyway. Just expect to have some drops here and there during CPU heavy gameplay scenarios (Witcher 3 citys, Rottr geothermal village, watch dogs 2 etc.)
Yes the 4k Release is a mess. I wanted to get a new 4k TV this December and started reading up on the tech. 4k is a staggered release and we are still in phase 1. Phase 2 will give us TVs with 120Hz, dynamic refresh rates and 10Bit HDR with 1024 gradients instead of the current 256. Plus GPU power isn't where it needs to be imo and audio receivers are also a mess currently. And the situation is even worse for gaming displays. As much as I'm eager to jump on the 4k Hype, waiting for the real deal is the way to go. If you aren't willing to buy twice, of course.
BreezyLimbo
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So I'm itching to buy some PC parts(GPU/CPU/Mobo)
Should I wait till next month? I keep hearing chatter that I should wait a month.
Should I wait till next month? I keep hearing chatter that I should wait a month.
InquisitorAles
Member
Yeah, that's why i upgraded only GPU for now, i checked news and saw that Intel's 8000 is coming really soon and finally be a next major step. News about next gen GPU's was not that promising, so i decided to pull the trigger and got 1080ti while it was on sale in my local wholesale vendor.
RumblingRosco
Member
I agree about the 4K limitations. I'm loving 1440p/144Hz on my 1080 Ti, but just don't see the necessary parts available for great framerates at 4K just yet. Maybe in another GPU generation or two.
Yes, absolutely the GPU. The GPU is the graphics horsepower of your rig.
The motherboard display is only for troubleshooting or for an emergency (dead GPU, etc).
shira
Member
Is it viable for like a 4th monitor or is it off when the gpu is active
franklyshankly
Member
Do you really need to absolutely max every setting though?
People have no problem getting 4K on a 1080 ti by turning a few things down from what I've seen.
Not sure tbh, but there are GPUs out there that can support 4 monitors.
robotzombie
Member
I have the exact same problem with the Asus Hero VI board. It started happening like 2 years ago and after doing a ton of research I came to the conclusion it is just a bug that won't be fixed. I basically have to constantly resync my time. A bunch of people seem to have had the issue and it was never solved to my knowledge. However, I recently looked back into it and I found these threads, but I didn't do anything they mentioned in them yet, so I have no idea of the value:
http://www.simforums.com/forums/new-bios-clock-problem_topic49849.html
http://www.simforums.com/forums/asus-rog-mobo-issues_topic47902_post302545.html#302545
PlayALLtheGames
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Just search for a roundup of the 1080Tis.
The best mix of cooling, noise and performance potential will likely come from a Hybrid card but a lot of it just depends on luck and the silicon lottery. Otherwise, for the most part they're the same except like the MSI armor I think which seems to be consistently poor at cooling.
I would try to convince anyone who is willing to blow $700+ on an nVidia right now to wait for Volta unless you're perfectly open to selling the 1080Ti in ~5 months or so to recoup some costs to put towards Volta.
Especially because you currently have an 8GB card. Just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to buy a flagship card with so little time left until the successor.
Spartancarver
Member
Decided to bump the OC on my i5 6600k from 4.2 Ghz to 4.5 last night.
Holy shit.
More than doubled my FPS in RotTR Geothermal Valley. BF4 went from 50's-70's with occasional stutter to locked 90-100+ FPS buttery smooth. Actually hit 144 FPS while flying a jet over the resort map which used to run like shit for me.
This is at 1440p with a GTX 1070. I had no idea a 300Mhz bump would make that big of a difference. Wow
Holy shit.
More than doubled my FPS in RotTR Geothermal Valley. BF4 went from 50's-70's with occasional stutter to locked 90-100+ FPS buttery smooth. Actually hit 144 FPS while flying a jet over the resort map which used to run like shit for me.
This is at 1440p with a GTX 1070. I had no idea a 300Mhz bump would make that big of a difference. Wow
PlayALLtheGames
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I'm glad you got the bumps, obviously, but very unlikely from a 300mhz boost. Did the games get an update? Windows? Did you update graphics drivers or anything else?
Spartancarver
Member
Only other thing that changed was I updated the BIOS (ASUS Z170M-Plus) before bumping the OC. Didn't think the BIOS update would do that.
Nothing else changed.
I had been dealing with major CPU bottlenecking issues in those games before the update and increased OC.
MikeBison
Member
She's alive! She's alive!
Thanks for all the help guys. Sorry about the terrible picture. Will get some proper ones when everything is up and running. Just installing Windows now. Then will do all my driver updates and go from there. Already updated the Bios and everything seems to be working correctly. So, on the home stretch now.
The Broken Ska Record
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nogoodnamesleft
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Cant speak for any game apart from tomb raider on that list, but SSAAx4 is essentially running at 4x your set resolution.
So if you are playing at 1080p with 4xSSAA on, you are rendering at 4K.
If you are playing at 4k with 4xSSAA well...yeah, dont expect any pc for the next 10 years to run that at above 60fps. It is essentially 16k.
RumblingRosco
Member
This explains why my 1080 Ti was at 99% usage at 1440p/100+ FPS with 4xSSAA+CMAA in WoW, but drops to 3-4% of I go to any other form of AA.
opticalmace
Member
4.5 ghz all cores or one core? At stock the 6600k will do all 4 cores at 3.5ghz IIRC, which is quite a bit lower. So if you're doing all cores at 4.5ghz it's actually a 1ghz overclock.
SCB3
Member
So, finally decided on an upgrade path, a few questions though
From:
my current specs
to the following
Now, totalling up the selling estimate to buying, I only need to pay about £200 or slightly under, which is not bad at all, but is that worth it? I want it for 1080p/60fps gaming where possible and the reason I'm upgrading is to eliminate the bottleneck the older CPU is giving me.
Also, where do I sell these older parts for the best price? Never sold older PC Components before
From:
my current specs
- AMD FX-6300
- 12gb RAM DDR3 (g.skill ripjaw)
- Asus Strix GTX 950
to the following
- AMD Ryzen 5 1600
- 8gb RAM DDR4
- nVidia GTX 1050ti (I can wiggle on this, a 970 is available for a similar price, 980ti if I wanna spend a bit more, this eventually will be replaced with a 4k card, but only when I've upgraded my monitors and TV)
- A new motherboard for the Ryzen chipset (looking at the MSI B350 TOMAHAWK as it was recommended and seems pretty decent)
Now, totalling up the selling estimate to buying, I only need to pay about £200 or slightly under, which is not bad at all, but is that worth it? I want it for 1080p/60fps gaming where possible and the reason I'm upgrading is to eliminate the bottleneck the older CPU is giving me.
Also, where do I sell these older parts for the best price? Never sold older PC Components before
Spartancarver
Member
All cores.
I bumped the OC up from 4.2 Ghz, not stock
Was getting massive weird stutters and CPU bottleneck in the Battlefield games at 4.2, all 4 cores locked at 100% usage and FPS drips into the low 30s. Updated BIOS and bumped it up to 4.5 Ghz and it's smooth sailing in both BF 1 and 4.
Yeah 4k 120 sounds great in theory but the amount of power that will require is ridiculous. Having said that, I did buy a LG C7 tv earlier this year, set it up for 1080P 120 gaming and it's so smooth. I had not used a higher Hz panel before now. This is going to force me to get a gsync monitor in the next year, but I'm going 1440p 144hz. I can't even imagine what I'll need for 4k 120 gaming so I'll take the lower resolution and maximize performance.
PixyJunket
Member
Craaap. All of my parts arrived except for the case, which is scheduled for Monday. Of course, I actually paid like $10 extra for three-day shipping and rush processing to get that by Friday and now this.
Should I try to get things setup and get the basics installed without the case? Any tutorials/precautions for doing so?
I'm not being impatient as much as I'll only have about four hours to do so on Monday after work (assuming the case arrives before I get home) and I kind of wanted to be up Tuesday so I could play some Ys VIII.
Should I try to get things setup and get the basics installed without the case? Any tutorials/precautions for doing so?
I'm not being impatient as much as I'll only have about four hours to do so on Monday after work (assuming the case arrives before I get home) and I kind of wanted to be up Tuesday so I could play some Ys VIII.
twothunder
Member
looking for a new PC to replace my 4year+ old one.
So. I went to a local PC shop to have one build for the first time
Before buying. They made me a list of their recommendations
CPU: i5 7500 or i7 7700
Motherboard: Asrock H270 Pro4
SSD: 240 GB
HHD: 4TB
Case: Cooler Master
VGA: GTX 1060 6GB Gigabyte
Memory: DD4 8GB or 16GB
Feed: 600w
Windows 10 home
it's quite a big investment for me that needs to last a while so I would like you guys's opinion if this is good enough
any recommendations?
Main Use: Gaming, , general usage , maybe Video Editing , Streaming games in the future
Monitor Resolution: I guess 1080p or 1440p. I will be buying a new monitor too
So. I went to a local PC shop to have one build for the first time
Before buying. They made me a list of their recommendations
CPU: i5 7500 or i7 7700
Motherboard: Asrock H270 Pro4
SSD: 240 GB
HHD: 4TB
Case: Cooler Master
VGA: GTX 1060 6GB Gigabyte
Memory: DD4 8GB or 16GB
Feed: 600w
Windows 10 home
it's quite a big investment for me that needs to last a while so I would like you guys's opinion if this is good enough
any recommendations?
Main Use: Gaming, , general usage , maybe Video Editing , Streaming games in the future
Monitor Resolution: I guess 1080p or 1440p. I will be buying a new monitor too
You could at least use the mobo box as a test bench and make sure everything boots while you wait. If you've got a DOA component at least you'll find out before you get everything set up in the case.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Lots of people make sure they can get it to post before they put it in the case. It's totally fine to start assembling.
The elephant in the room is intel coffee lake processors that are releasing in the coming months (some rumors point to October, but probably November). An i5 8600 could be both cheaper than a i7 7700 and trade blows with it, or the prices of all the new processors could be just a lot more expensive. Or maybe an i5 8500 could be your budget's sweet spot.
I have this one and I like it http://www.frys.com/product/8573299...KLCAx9otGJl-MstQ1fkSy1j4uJy97VPYaArjfEALw_wcB
TVexperto
Member
opticalmace
Member
All cores.
I bumped the OC up from 4.2 Ghz, not stock
Updated BIOS and bumped it up to 4.5 Ghz and it's smooth sailing in both BF 1 and 4.
Gotcha. In that case I'd expect the BIOS update did something for you rather than the 300mhz. Glad it's working in either case though.
The 6600k is a pretty damn good CPU.
PixyJunket
Member
Cool. Anything I need to be aware of, like can I just place the motherboard on my desk, etc?
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
That should be fine unless it is conductive. I have build it (like I imagine many do) on top of the anti static bag on top the motherboard box and left it there until the case arrived.