I plan on doing a diet that simply involves not eating.

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Computer said:
This is stupid. You need carbs for your body and your brain to function. Where else are you gonna take that energy?
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assuming you cut carbs, aren't eating too much protein (hard to do, really), then you'll get your energy from consumed fat and then fill the energy deficit with burned fat.

Your liver will convert dietary protein into glucose to feed the brain as needed, and the body can get glucose from burning fat. You aren't going to turn into a vegetable on keto/ultra low carb.
 
As so many have said OP, this is a completely idiotic plan. The occasional intermittent fast I get, but this? You are simply going to do more bad then good and you WILL gain it back when you start eating.

There is no cheating when it comes to losing weight, at least not healthy cheating that will actually last.
 
cheststrongwell said:
Only a complete idiot would do this.
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Pretty much. As someone who struggles with their weight and is trying to lose it, I dont beleive in diets. To me diets dont teach you anything, you do the program and it works, but afterwards you dont know what to do. Or you have picked a bad diet and it doesnt do anything at all. So I do think think a specfifced diet is the best way to go about it.

What I have been doing is basically setting up spreadsheets and comparing numbers. I have spreadsheets for my running, what I eat, and how much weight I lift. Then at the start of everyday I weigh myself. If Im losing wieght then I know now what to do, because I have the numbers and a plan that work. If it doesnt work then I can adjust it and go from there.

Also, losing weight is suppose to be about learning about your body and how to appericate and discipline yourself. So if your not eating then you must ceratinly are not appricating your body, or yourself, and you will learn nothing.
 
BackwardsSuggestions said:
Before I start, yes it's a bad idea. I get that.
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Once you stop eating, after a while your body will go into starvation mode and your metabolism will slow, your body will hoard its fat... It won't work nearly as good as you hope.

You could however do the Christian Bale Machinist diet.

Can of Tuna and an Apple a day.

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I'd say to do low-carb, but frankly I don't think the OP could figure out how to follow it correctly.
Anything is better than starvation, though.
 
I lost 40 pounds last year using a
free iphone app (also on Android) called LoseIt that helped me track my calories. It was very easy to use and I highly recommend it.
 
Why would Coke be one of the few things you are planning on drinking? Besides the fact that this 'diet' is pretty stupid by itself. It's like you don't want to have any kind of good results just because. But to each their own I guess.
 
OP you're an idiot. You're body isn't made for this. You do realize not eating will DRASTICALLY reduce your metabolism meaning that it'll actually SLOW down the rate you burn calories. It'll cause you to retain more fat as well. Not saying you won't lose weight (after all your BMI is your BMI and your body does need energy to run) but it'll be MUCH slower than if you simply ate less or ate low calorie meals
 
I'm sure it's been mentioned a thousand times but if you lose weight without any kind of muscle exercise you look like a complete mess.

I lost 70 pounds from eating very little and running... no weight training... I was what's referred to as "skinny fat".
 
Computer said:
This is stupid. You need carbs for your body and your brain to function. Where else are you gonna take that energy?
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You are wrong. Your brain needs a small amount of glucose which it can get via gluconeogenesis or the trace amount of carbs you'll get from almonds, veges, etc.
 
Computer said:
This is stupid. You need carbs for your body and your brain to function. Where else are you gonna take that energy?
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You're brain only needs something like 30g of carbs per day to function properly. The rest of it's energy it can get from ketones. You're body can run on the best fuel available aka fat.

However you need carbs if you're interested in muscle growth and weight lift.

Personally I find the keto diet too extreme. LCHF is perfectly fine to lose weight. If you want to lose fat it's the way to go.
 
Srsly said:
This is just ignorant
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olollo explain how?

Fragamemnon said:
assuming you cut carbs, aren't eating too much protein (hard to do, really), then you'll get your energy from consumed fat and then fill the energy deficit with burned fat.

Your liver will convert dietary protein into glucose to feed the brain as needed, and the body can get glucose from burning fat. You aren't going to turn into a vegetable on keto/ultra low carb.
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Your liver is constantly in stress during keto, which is why regular blood work is required when doctors prescribe keto. Also easier to get kidney stones and other malnutrition related illnesses of the endocrine system.
IceCold said:
You're brain only needs something like 30g of carbs per day to function properly. The rest of it's energy it can get from ketones. You're body can run on the best fuel available aka fat.

However you need carbs if you're interested in muscle growth and weight lift.

Personally I find the keto diet too extreme. LCHF is perfectly fine to lose weight. If you want to lose fat it's the way to go.
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I;ve read so many times in the peleo thread about how people are either losing too much weight or not feeling full. An intake of carbs such as a piece of whole grain bread and or brown rice would help that immensely. Demonizing on a food on basically arbitrary reasons is never recommended. If you have a normal liver, pancreas, kidneys, your body should normative after the GI spike and it;s that spikes that helps with energy. The problem is when we eat too much of that and our body is trying to constantly try and balance your blood sugars.

Here is a study on GI levels in healthy. They use this as a comparison profile for diabetic patients.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769652/
 
BackwardsSuggestions said:
Before I start, yes it's a bad idea. I get that.

I currently weigh 220lbs. The easiest and best way for my to lose this weight would be simply to diet and exercise. I'm not doing that. I'm going to simply stop eating.

Most days I will not eat but in order to stay alive, some food needs to be consumed. These will be limited to items such as sandwiches or cereal and only once a day at maximum. Liquids and any drinks have no effect on this test. I will still drink tea and will still occasionally buy a can of Coke or similar.

Other notes:

  • I do smoke
  • I do work full time
  • I can't cook but do eat a worrying amount of take-away.

I also started a blog, just to get my progress down on paper. I also honestly believe no one will care but it's more fun with people pretending they're interested. :)
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Lazy and looking for a shortcut

When you don't lose weight I won't feel sorry for you
 
BackwardsSuggestions said:
Before I start, yes it's a bad idea. I get that.

I currently weigh 220lbs. The easiest and best way for my to lose this weight would be simply to diet and exercise. I'm not doing that. I'm going to simply stop eating.

Most days I will not eat but in order to stay alive, some food needs to be consumed. These will be limited to items such as sandwiches or cereal and only once a day at maximum. Liquids and any drinks have no effect on this test. I will still drink tea and will still occasionally buy a can of Coke or similar.

Other notes:

  • I do smoke
  • I do work full time
  • I can't cook but do eat a worrying amount of take-away.

I also started a blog, just to get my progress down on paper. I also honestly believe no one will care but it's more fun with people pretending they're interested. :)
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It's beyond a bad idea. Do you understand how nutrition/the body works?

This idea won't work.
 
BackwardsSuggestions said:
Before I start, yes it's a bad idea. I get that.

I currently weigh 220lbs. The easiest and best way for my to lose this weight would be simply to diet and exercise. I'm not doing that. I'm going to simply stop eating.

Most days I will not eat but in order to stay alive, some food needs to be consumed. These will be limited to items such as sandwiches or cereal and only once a day at maximum. Liquids and any drinks have no effect on this test. I will still drink tea and will still occasionally buy a can of Coke or similar.

Other notes:

  • I do smoke
  • I do work full time
  • I can't cook but do eat a worrying amount of take-away.

I also started a blog, just to get my progress down on paper. I also honestly believe no one will care but it's more fun with people pretending they're interested. :)
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DrBo42 said:
Brilliant. I want this photoshopped onto a tombstone. What a dumb idea OP, the human body doesn't work like that.

Edit: Fitness GAF could confirm the legitimacy of this but I'm pretty sure it would be faster to lose weight by reducing intake and exercise. I'm not sure the rate you passively burn through fat stores from a huge reduction in eating but it doesn't seem like it would be noticeable for a very long time.
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Listen to everyone who said try Intermittent fasting.

It's absolutely the best, easiest diet to do. Especially if your the kind that is used to skipping breakfast.

If I eat breakfast I actually get way hungrier. So if you don't eat from say 9pm to 1pm next day, you metabolism just shuts down and you don't even crave. That's how I've been doing it.

Now if you really wanna see faster gains, hit the gym sometime in the morning or best right before your fast is up and you will lose fat and gain muscle.

And for foods, just go keto or do carb cycling. Chicken/fish/meant are good kinds of protein. They don't make you fat. If you lack these, your body after a while won't burn any fat because it thinks your starving. So eat a good amount of proteins (not fried stuff though, grill/boil stuff) and your golden.
 
black_13 said:
Listen to everyone who said try Intermittent fasting.

It's absolutely the best, easiest diet to do. Especially if your the kind that is used to skipping breakfast.

If I eat breakfast I actually get way hungrier. So if you don't eat from say 9pm to 1pm next day, you metabolism just shuts down and you don't even crave. That's how I've been doing it.

Now if you really wanna see faster gains, hit the gym sometime in the morning or best right before your fast is up and you will lose fat and gain muscle.

And for foods, just go keto or do carb cycling. Chicken/fish/meant are good kinds of protein. They don't make you fat. If you lack these, your body after a while won't burn any fat because it thinks your starving. So eat a good amount of proteins (not fried stuff though, grill/boil stuff) and your golden.
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I know right? IF is fucking awesome and has been very easy for me.

Still eating my favorite foods every once in a while (about every 2 weeks) as well.
 
The basic idea isn't thaaaat bad like some people are suggesting. But if you add "some coke here and there", "I smoke" and "I work fulltime" ... yeah, that's pretty much priceless.
 
I've only seen intermittent fasting recommended by "natural science" type of quacks like Mercola, Natural News and their lackeys.


The rise in bro-science is especially disconcerting.
 
If you're going to be eating just once a day you won't be starving and it's a pretty good and healthy way of loosing weight.
 
Who the hell can't cook? Look up recipe online at any number of recipe sites -> find a recipe with a decent number of positive reviews -> follow the recipe. How is it possible to fuck this up?
 
ClassyPenguin said:
I've only seen intermittent fasting recommended by "natural science" type of quacks like Mercola, Natural News and their lackeys.


The rise in bro-science is especially disconcerting.
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There are studies on intermittent fasting and keto isn't bad for you either. I think you are the one that is misinformed.
 
blackflag said:
There are studies on intermittent fasting and keto isn't bad for you either. I think you are the one that is misinformed.
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Kind of have to agree with this. Keto would send your liver for a loop if you ate a ton of protein, but it's not a high protein diet. It's a high fat one.

working out at the tail end of your IF cycle is the bees knees. I tend to 16/8 IF four of five days a week. Getting out of bed, getting to work and getting a good start on getting a grips on my workday makes me happier than eating. I just get a cup of coffee and some water to stuff something down my throat.
 
I've gone through a water-only-fast for 24 days and it did wonders for my body. Since breaking the fast, I feel far more energetic, have healthier skin, can concentrate better and far more importantly, the fast broke my chocolate addiction. Also, I lost (and kept off) 32 pounds.

Certainly wasn't easy though. I was plagued by headaches, weakness and awful breath during the fast, but the detox was 100% worth it. I've the energy of a 6yr old.
 
BackwardsSuggestions said:
If it all fails and I give up, I promise to post here so you can all see, don't worry.

And I appreciate the advice and may change things around to incorporate your advice. Thanks for the help. :)
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"If" it fails? This will almost certainly fail. You are an idiot and I'm telling you that for your own good because this method of losing weight is worst for your health than simply continuing your lifestyle.
 
Once you finally give in to the food cravings, you're probably going to gain the weight back and then some.
 
Show me the studies that say keto and or intermittent fasting is good.
So far, in most medical journals and doctors and dietitians have only said the opposite.
 
ClassyPenguin said:
I've only seen intermittent fasting recommended by "natural science" type of quacks like Mercola, Natural News and their lackeys.


The rise in bro-science is especially disconcerting.
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Calorie restriction might be somewhat comparable, but using the science of that (which is theoretical, based on like lab rat models I think) may not apply to IF since it is a different kind of diet plan than CR, and generally people adopt calorie restriction for (again theoretical) gains in human lifespan.
 
You could just eat healthy and cut out all the shit food. Just because you wanna lose weight doesn't mean you have to starve yourself. Saying you can only eat once a day and then listing off the worst things you could put in your body certainly isn't gonna help. Eat right and exercise a little and you'll see the weight drop pretty quick.

jfoul said:
Once you finally give in to the food cravings, you're probably going to gain the weight back and then some.
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Pretty much
 
umop_3pisdn said:
Calorie restriction might be somewhat comparable, but using the science of that (which is theoretical, based on like lab rat models I think) may not apply to IF since it is a different kind of diet plan than CR, and generally people adopt calorie restriction for (again theoretical) gains in human lifespan.
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Yeah, the key is forming long term healthy behaviors which comes with meeting with a dietitian and a doctor and maybe a therapist(if you have body image issues). Lots of these diets work on short term and can be detrimental, especially for social and psychological reasons. For example, getting the shits on one of those diets because I ate some food with friends at say Applebees, and now my body is out of whack is not a positive.
 
Avoid red meat and eat everything else. As long as you do cardio 5 times a week you'll be fine. Also eliminate soda from your diet , drinking soda every day is worse than eating fast food.
 
ClassyPenguin said:
Show me the studies that say keto and or intermittent fasting is good.
So far, in most medical journals and doctors and dietitians have only said the opposite.
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The only studies about Keto I've seen were about how beneficial it is for people with epilepsy and parkinsons.
 
I am confused by this.

If you don't believe you have the discipline or willpower to stay on a low calore, or low carb diet, what makes you think you can stay on a no-food diet? Conversely speaking, if you have enough willpower to starve yourself, why don't you have enough willpower to just eat fruits and veggies?
 
OP, you're body is going to bounce back and gain weight with any food you eat after you're done starving yourself. And you'll be missing out on important vitamins and amino acids necessary for good health, doing more harm than good. You'd need to slowly, very slowly, increase your food uptake after your fast in order to avoid sudden fat storage.

A smarter approach would be intermittent fasting, where you actually diet, exercise, and have 1-2 days a week (spread out) where you don't eat anything. You're body will burn off excess fat, while also receiving the important components needed for natural upkeep.

And then you mention you smoke, which is all kinds of fucked up if you're worried about your health, but also can lower appetite :/.

EDIT: A morbidly obese person can do a fast efficiently without a ton of harm(normally), but at 220 lbs, I'd say you're better off just dieting.
 
Self-starvation is indeed the fastest way, OP. Just make sure you don't fall in to the trap of bulk eating in the evening because you're so fucking hungry. I do however suggest having lunch every other day. Coffee and cigarettes can make up for the rest. Good luck!
 
border said:
I am confused by this.

If you don't believe you have the discipline or willpower to stay on a low calore, or low carb diet, what makes you think you can stay on a no-food diet? Conversely speaking, if you have enough willpower to starve yourself, why don't you have enough willpower to just eat fruits and veggies?
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Common sense clearly is not the OP's strong point.
 
marvelharvey said:
I've gone through a water-only-fast for 24 days and it did wonders for my body. Since breaking the fast, I feel far more energetic, have healthier skin, can concentrate better and far more importantly, the fast broke my chocolate addiction. Also, I lost (and kept off) 32 pounds.

Certainly wasn't easy though. I was plagued by headaches, weakness and awful breath during the fast, but the detox was 100% worth it. I've the energy of a 6yr old.
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Your body, as long as you have a healthy endocrine system detoxes itself pretty efficiently.
 
Baby steps op... Smoking cessation and cut out the pop.

Eventually, find time to go for walks after dinner or something.
 
ClassyPenguin said:
Your body, as long as you have a healthy endocrine system detoxes itself pretty efficiently.
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I think the benefit of fasting is supposed to do with autophagy though, which might have something to do with the amount of nutrients we take in iirc. I've heard people also say that it has something to do with the amount of energy used in digestion, too, if you're fasting and no digestion is going on it actually frees up some energy normally used by that process for other things supposedly. I don't know how true that is though. It seems kind of intuitive that fasting under the right circumstances might be somewhat good for us but that's not exactly a scientific or researched perspective.
 
Have fun. My GF did a variation on this (before I met her) which caused her to have a peptic ulcer (?). Lots of abdominal pain for weeks if not months.
 
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