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[tokkun]

The thing is $250-300 is something I can afford and to me it's a good investment to replace almost 5 year old parts with new ones on a machine I love and use every single day. The capacitors in my P8P67 Deluxe motherboard have probably gotten around 17,000 hours of use so far. If my current CPU/motherboard/RAM were to fail then I would be in trouble because money is pretty tight for me I just don't have the budget for $700 anytime soon.

That math does not add up. You would not need to spend $700 if your motherboard failed. A used P67 motherboard is only around $80. You could either buy another board for $80 or sell your remaining parts and get $80 less. Either way you are only out $80, unless you are imagining that your board explodes and kills all your other parts in the process. Otherwise your CPU and RAM will likely live for many more years.

To me, spending hundreds of dollars for the equivalent of an extended warranty on an $80 part doesn't seem to make a lot of sense financially, especially if money is tight, but it's your call to make.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

What's so bad about the "higher end" FX CPUs (8350)? I bought one on budget and it seems fine for gaming (haven't tried emulation).

I thought most gaming is GPU limited nowadays - and DX12 will help alleviate and remaining bottlenecks on the CPU end (or at least better leverage what they're capable of)

Depending on the game, you have noticeably lower minimum frame rates even though you benchmark average will be similar to a high end CPU. This means you have frame rate spiking up and down resulting in choppy feeling gameplay even though your benchmark scores look fine. The CPU matters in games, don't let ignorant people claim otherwise.

Some games are notoriously CPU bound like simulations (Civilization), MMOs are super infamous for being this way, strategy games (Total War), racing (Project Cars), and yes emulation is all done by the CPU.

 

[Insane Metal]

It's a billion times better than their previous aesthetic.

Look at this garbage, if you told me this was a vaporwave album cover I'd believe you.

Seriously. The new one looks much MUCH better. And no new i3's?

 

[kharma45]

2500K the CPU of forever. £120 bargain. Mine doesn't OC as high as some but even at 4.4GHz it's plenty fast. PCIe 2.0 is still fine too.

 

[nubbe]

Seriously. The new one looks much MUCH better. And no new i3's?

focus s on portable machines
these are just to give crying enthusiasts something to buy

 

[cebri.one]

I believe this could be the new 2500k. All rumours point to amazing overclocking potential, low consumption and we wont get another die shrink for at least 2 years.

 

[SneakyStephan]

focus s on portable machines
these are just to give crying enthusiasts something to buy

If only people could muster the same kind of disdain for the corporations that sell them shit as for their fellow users.

 

[tokkun]

I believe this could be the new 2500k. All rumours point to amazing overclocking potential, low consumption and we wont get another die shrink for at least 2 years.

I would say the overclocking rumors are mixed. I have also seen a few CPU-Z screenshots floating around where it has taken tons of voltage to get a modest overclock. Of course engineering samples and all that. I think people tend to amplify the good results because of confirmation bias.

I do agree with the sentiment that we are not likely to see substantially better single-threaded performance any time soon, but of course that has been true every year since Sandy Bridge.

 

[djshauny]

4670k. No need to update here.

 

[Great Guy]

Apparently box shots have begun appearing online.

"NOW Thats what I call Intel 2015!"

More interested in Skylake for mobile really. 3570k will continue to be fine for my needs, in spite of that regular upgrade itch. Surface pro 4 with skylake perhaps, now that I'm interested in.

 

[ZombieSupaStar]

Ive gotten so much longevity out of my 2500k system I built for skyrim/battlefield 3 (only replaced gpu from 560 to 970), its been ridiculous.

 

[RE_Player]

My AMD 6300 is still trucking along. I'm going to wait for Zen to see if it will be worth the upgrade.

 

[kpjolee]

Probably going to hold out for new mobo and CPU until PCI Express 4.0 finalizes in 2017. My 4770k will definitely hold up until then.
For Zen, it has to match at least haswell in IPC and has 8 cores or more to get me interested.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Seriously. The new one looks much MUCH better. And no new i3's?

Not yet. The enthusiast class 6700 and 6600 are launching first. 6500 and 6300 will follow later this year.

 

[Insane Metal]

focus s on portable machines
these are just to give crying enthusiasts something to buy

Got it. Thanks.

edit:

Not yet. The enthusiast class 6700 and 6600 are launching first. 6500 and 6300 will follow later this year.

Oh, thank you too.

 

[synce]

Are you shitting me? I JUST bought a 4690

 

[Bubba_Sparks]

Damn, I had no clue these were coming out! I have been planning to buy a Core i5 4690K along with a motherboard in the middle of this month! I already went ahead a purchased 16Gb of DDR3, and it doesn't look like these new motherboards support it! I guess I will be stuck with with that unless I can find a Z710 Mobo that has DDR3 support.

 

[BeEatNU]

Are you shitting me? I JUST bought a 4960

balling but are these better than the Haswell-Es ?

 

[Durante]

Not yet. The enthusiast class 6700 and 6600 are launching first. 6500 and 6300 will follow later this year.

That's not "enthusiast class", at least by Intel's own definition. X99 is the current enthusiast platform, and will be for a while yet. Z170 is "just" Premium.

 

[kpjolee]

Are you shitting me? I JUST bought a 4690

Swear I thought you said 5960 like a second ago lol.

 

[nubbe]

That's not "enthusiast class", at least by Intel's own definition. X99 is the current enthusiast platform, and will be for a while yet. Z170 is "just" Premium.

that's marketing
nothing enthusiast about the E series.. the X platform is always outdated
x79 was asssss

 

[BeEatNU]

Swear I thought you said 5960 like a second ago lol.

he did!!!!

 

[Durante]

that's marketing
nothing enthusiast about the E series.. the X platform is always outdated
x79 was asssss

I disagree. For one, the only desktop platform where you can get 6- and 8-core CPUs from Intel is obviously "enthusiast" by any definition. And secondly, X99 provided quad-channel DDR4, up to 40 PCIe lanes and native M.2 support almost exactly 1 year ago -- nothing outdated about that.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

New boxart looks godawful. I think it's actually worse than their old one.

 

[BeEatNU]

I disagree. For one, the only desktop platform where you can get 6- and 8-core CPUs from Intel is obviously "enthusiast" by any definition. And secondly, X99 provided quad-channel DDR4, up to 40 PCIe lanes and native M.2 support almost exactly 1 year ago -- nothing outdated about that.

this, looking at these new cpus, doesn't seem like it will out perform the 6/8 core haswell-e's

 

[kpjolee]

that's marketing
nothing enthusiast about the E series.. the X platform is always outdated
x79 was asssss

X99 has all the stuff Z170 has, plus quad-channel DDR4 memory support n extra PCI xpress lanes.
X79 felt outdated because it lasted 3 years while Z platforms went through 3 socket changes.

 

[nubbe]

exactly, Z gets updated yearly and gets new features all the time
X gets updated 3-4 years

I would never call X an enthusiast platform

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

No, I mean, are these going to be the 14nm ones? Just double checking.

I'm going to do a big system upgrade from my 3570K to one of the 6700Ks, DDR4 of RAM and so on. Going to be good .

Massive waste of money and time I'll warn you. You won't notice any difference from the CPU and memory.

 

[StereoVsn]

My AMD 6300 is still trucking along. I'm going to wait for Zen to see if it will be worth the upgrade.

X99 has all the stuff Z170 has, plus quad-channel DDR4 memory support n extra PCI xpress lanes.
X79 felt outdated because it lasted 3 years while Z platforms went through 3 socket changes.

Hmm.. How is overclocking on 5820? Might be a better idea considering some of the advantages of x99.

 

[tokkun]

Hmm.. How is overclocking on 5820? Might be a better idea considering some of the advantages of x99.

Not good. The fact that the mainstream parts have better single-threaded performance than HEDT is part of what muddles this whole argument about which is the true enthusiast platform.

Some of these features on X99 really only show benefit for workstation or server workloads. It's kind of like being a car enthusiast and going out and buying a semi to drive around.

 

[idlewild_]

wccf tech says $313/225 for the i7/i5 respectively. Will probably be picking up one of these next week for my new pc. Currently have a 920, not expecting a huge performance upgrade but hopefully it is at least noticeable.

http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-s-lineup-list-price-i7-6700k-313-i5-6600k-225/

 

[Tallshortman]

lmao, did you forget how right I was about Fury
Win10 is out, did Fury start destroying Nvidia cards yet
did DX12 revolutionize Fury performance yet
AMD Zen is not going to close the performance gap, the only question is how much it will lose by

haha what the hell are you talking about? You were throwing around shit in the post launch threads in poor attempts to troll. Or how can we forget you claiming in pre-launch threads with fud like AMD doesn't care about HDMI after they demoed freesync working over hdmi?

DX12? What DX12 games that currently don't exist are you referring to? Windows 10? Any optimizations predicted were for DX12 not windows 10, why the hell would windows 10 by itself improve performance only for AMD? Who are you even arguing against while quoting me, where did I say DX12 or Windows 10 would make Fiji "destroy" Maxwell?

The fact that willful (or likely facetious) ignorance and strawman is your mask for an argument only makes it better.

 

[AJLma]

Hmm.. How is overclocking on 5820? Might be a better idea considering some of the advantages of x99.

4.2Ghz on a Corsair H100i AIO cooler. I think I'm stable at 4.4 but don't want the extra heat. I think mine would be considered a poor overclocker too, I've seen plenty of others do much better.

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

Massive waste of money and time I'll warn you. You won't notice any difference from the CPU and memory.

Could you take a look at these two builds please!? Will the second build get much better performance or is it a waste of money?

Build 1
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/gustavobarandas/saved/scQnTW

Build 2
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/gustavobarandas/saved/Bb4kcf

 

[troopershades]

If your machine getting long in the tooth like mine is, then upgrade. I'm still on a Core i7-950. Skylake will probably feel like a revolutionary performance jump for me.

I'm in a similar boat. i7-930 and seriously pondering either upgrading or getting a surface pro for school. I should prolly do the latter though.

 

[tokkun]

Could you take a look at these two builds please!? Will the second build get much better performance or is it a waste of money?

Build 1
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/gustavobarandas/saved/scQnTW

Build 2
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/gustavobarandas/saved/Bb4kcf

The 5820 has 6 cores, so you will see a real benefit if you do a lot of heavily multithreaded tasks, such as video encoding, but you will not see a benefit in single-threaded applications and games.

Otherwise just buy the 980 Ti and save the other $1K.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Massive waste of money and time I'll warn you. You won't notice any difference from the CPU and memory.

Not really. Plus, I'm going to sell my old stuff off to my brother at a discounted price.

 

[DrFunk]

Looks tacky and very 80s

which makes it awesome

 

[kpjolee]

Hmm.. How is overclocking on 5820? Might be a better idea considering some of the advantages of x99.

4.2-4.4 seems to be norm among 5820ks afaik. 6700k might seem like a better choice for gaming for now but not sure how it will fare in the future when games better make use of more cores. Games like GTAV n Witcher 3 seems to perform better with 6 or 8 cores than 4 cores in some scenarios already.

 

[Emarv]

I'm looking at Skylake because I'm building from scratch and it seems like the smarter way to future-proof my machine.

I hope the price markup isn't too terrible.

 

[BleedOrange]

Poverty Core i7-930 here. Bone stock.

The upgrade itch is real.

 

[AP90]

I'm rocking my 2600k, turns 4yr old this Nov. Due to the negligible CPU gains, I hoping it can last me till 4Q 2017 +-2months.

Because a year from that (2018) time my fiance and I will be starting a family and buying a house so I need that 8core CPU which will hopefully released by then to last me a long time.

Current rig:
2600k @4.5
16gigs DDR3@ 1600 (want 32gig DDR4 in future)
240gig SanDisk extreme2 (want 1tb+ in future)

Evga 980ti SC (looking to upgrade this in 2018)

My last rig for a long time will hopefully be 4k w/vr capabilities where ill only have to upgrade gpu every 2ish years or so for a while. Thats my goal.

 

[Odrion]

4.2-4.4 seems to be norm among 5820ks afaik. 6700k might seem like a better choice for gaming for now but not sure how it will fare in the future when games better make use of more cores. Games like GTAV n Witcher 3 seems to perform better with 6 or 8 cores than 4 cores in some scenarios already.

Don't forget the multitasking benefits that come with cores beyond 4. Use your computer like a computer instead of a damn game console.

 

[TSM]

Hmm.. How is overclocking on 5820? Might be a better idea considering some of the advantages of x99.

I have a 5820k clocked at 4.5ghz with a corsair AIO cooler. I could probably overclock it higher, but I just let the Asus software automatically overclock everything.

 

[Renekton]

Not good. The fact that the mainstream parts have better single-threaded performance than HEDT is part of what muddles this whole argument about which is the true enthusiast platform.

Even if you pay more for 5930k, there's still bin luck haha.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Yeah, I'm going in, currently on a i7 920 no OC, it's still decent but I wanted a mITX build for a while now and really need a new GPU so I'll go for a completely new build with Skylake.

same here on all counts. my 920 still gets the job done.

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

Don't hate on it. X99 is the bee's knees today.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I7 3770k stock

No need to upgrade yet, my system has great cooling but I've had no need to over clock.

 

[Renekton]

same here on all counts. my 920 still gets the job done.

The CPU utilization on bf4 told me otherwise <_<

 

[BeEatNU]

Don't hate on it. X99 is the bee's knees today.

I'm right here with you bro bro