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[pelican]

Nope, sticking with my Devil Canyon 4690K.

 

[exmachina64]

I just bought i5 4590 last May.

Did you need a PC or an upgrade? You didn't lose much by buying what you did.

 

[mrklaw]

Skylake-S is 14nm so it's smaller silicon, Haswell is 22nm and my Sandy Bridge is 32nm. I'm not overvolting and it never goes above 60C when gaming so hopefully it won't crap out anytime soon.

Don't you guys want newer Motherboard tech though. I mean USB 3.1 is twice as fast as 3.0 and type-C connector is the future for all devices pretty much. And M.2 SSDs are nice and don't take any space.

Plus I'm afraid my PCI-E 2.0 slot might bottleneck future GPUs, right now I have a GTX 970 and I don't think that there's much of a bottleneck but in the future who knows. I wish nVidia would go more into detail about NVlink and if that's gonna be a technology that will be incorporated into mainstream motherboards.

So wait two years for USB-C to actually be in more than a handful of devices. As cool as it it, there is little or no practical use for it until more devices come out.

And can't you get a PCI card if you want USB 3.0? I understand that USB 3 is faster and very useful, but how often do you do large transfers that you can't just leave to complete unattended? Enough that it is worth replacing your entire motherboard, CPU and Ram for?

We all like new toys, but sometimes it feels like people are looking for excuses.

 

[michaelius]

I wouldn't buy anything from AMD right now considering how long they've been circling the drain for. Do you really want to invest hundreds in a product of a company whose future is really shaky?

That would mostly matter for gpus where you need drivers but not really on cpu side.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Not sure if you realize but there are no dx12 games out yet.

I am fully aware of it, you have to go back and read a bunch of previous threads to know what I'm referring to there though.

 

[Dragon1893]

I will use my 2600k until it bottenecks me from playing the latest games at the settings I want. As it is, I am still GPU limited in most if not all games I have played so far.

Same. Bought this CPU in early 2011 like the OP (4 and half years ago!!!) and don't see a need to upgrade yet.

 

[con-ca-te-nate]

Did you need a PC or an upgrade? You didn't lose much by buying what you did.

A PC. Well that's good to hear though because I'm saving my money for a GPU upgrade this coming holiday.

 

[Sanjay]

If I could send a message back in time to my self, it would be "buy a i5 2500k and don't upgrade for another 8 years"

 

[Camp Freddie]

i5 2500K for life.

Well, at least for the life of Ivy Bridge, Harwell, Broadwell and probably Skylake.

It's amazing how little CPU power seems to matter these days.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

For anyone on Sandy Bridge there isn't a great deal worth upgrading for, as although Skylake will be slightly faster than Haswell when paired with a dGPU, I've seen benchmarks that put it slower at some CPU tasks.

Also, DDR4 memory offers negligible performance gains when it comes to gaming. So it might be worth waiting for Zen and its extra cores.

 

[isamu]

What about those of us with old dinosaurs like the Core i7 950?

 

[ValfarHL]

2600k @ 4.6 is still pretty beastly OP. I'd suggest waiting for smaller silicon. Did you overvolt to get it there? If not, I don't think it's going to crap out anytime soon.

What's a overvolt? Is that the voltage above what is generally safe with these chips on air, ie. 1.4V-ish?

 

[Izcarielo]

I still have my i7 2600 and ive got 0 problems during these past 4 years (it aint OC'ed)
Im planning on buying a new Nvidia GPU next year when the new models will be out but im not changing my CPU.

 

[LilJoka]

What's a overvolt? Is that the voltage above what is generally safe with these chips on air, ie. 1.4V-ish?

By overvolt, he meant did he increase the CPU core voltage above the stock level. Generally 1.35-1.4v is the point where you don't want to go much further. They run at about 1.2v stock.

I have a i7 3770 doing 4.25Ghz 1.08v, not upgrading for 18months atleast.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Personally I'm not interested in the X99 platform, The motherboards are way too expensive if you want a relatively nice one compared to Z97/Z170. Also, yeah the 5820K is 6-core but they're clocked much slower and there's no guarantee that you'll be able to get them much higher on air (it's a 140W TDP) and I don't like or want to spend money on water cooling. You would end up spending significantly more for not that much gain. In fact in some leaked benchmarks the 6700K apparently beats the 5820K.

Nonsense. I've got one and in general they'll easily clock to 4.4Ghz on air cooling. You don't need water cooling and they overclock like a champ (+1Ghz).

Also, latest benches show a 5820k is significantly faster than the 6700k in CPU tasks at stock.

 

[SliChillax]

So the rumors of it supporting DDR3 and DDR4 were false?

 

[aeolist]

i don't think it would be wise to bank on zen being performance-competitive with skylake.

it'll be a budget alternative that's a bit more performant than current AMD chips, but i don't think they'll really close the gap much.

 

[The Boat]

You're not likely to find Broadwell CPUs for cheaper. They never significantly mark down old chips, especially in this case so soon after release.

DDR4 support IIRC is new as of Skylake.

I see, thanks. Can't wait to get a new PC.

 

[Notor!ousG]

I still have an i7-950 so I'm certainly upgrading to Skylake.

 

[OnionPowder]

You're not likely to find Broadwell CPUs for cheaper. They never significantly mark down old chips, especially in this case so soon after release.

DDR4 support IIRC is new as of Skylake.

Haswell-E uses DDR4. I know because my 5820K only supported DDR4.

 

[DeFiBkIlLeR]

Zen shouldn't really be a consideration..according to AMD's own guesstimates we're only talking about a 40% increase in IPC, that will only just pull it level with 2500K performance, a nice performance boost for sure but it will still be 20-30% slower than next years Skylake refresh.

Although you could argue that DX12 will make any IPC deficit redundant I suppose.

 

[tokkun]

So the rumors of it supporting DDR3 and DDR4 were false?

The rumor has always been that the DDR3 support will be limited to low-voltage modules, which would still mean that most existing DDR3 would be incompatible. It's also up to motherboard makers to decide whether they want to support it at all.

 

[FLAguy954]

The thing is that Intel really hasn't made that much progress since Sandy Bridge in 2011 so i definitely think it would be plausible for AMD to catch up to them after all these years and offer something at least similar performance wise but maybe with better pricing as they usually do.

As for the 5.2GHz rumors I'm inclined to believe them only because the TDP is 95W with the 14nm die shrink whereas Devil's Canyon was 88W at 22nm. That would seem to suggest a lot of overclocking headroom.

People keep saying that Intel hasn't made much progress (especially Sandy Bridge owners) but the truth of the matter is they have. Providing a ~7% increase in performance per generation or refresh since Sandy Bridge (which is serviceable but now several generations behind with aging motherboard specs) and the numbers start to add up.

The Skylake i7 is looking to be ~30-35% faster than your current i7, which is a huge jump imo.

 

[aeolist]

Although you could argue that DX12 will make any IPC deficit redundant I suppose.

eh, i wouldn't count on it. as soon as developers come to grips with not having the CPU occupied by draw calls they'll find another use for it.

 

[daninthemix]

The Skylake i7 is looking to be ~30-35% faster than your current i7, which is a huge jump imo.

A "huge" jump for over 4 years of CPU advancement? Yeah, no.

 

[Hesemonni]

I hope nobody is upgrading their rig solely because of imaginaryDDR4 performance gains...

 

[OnionPowder]

I hope nobody is upgrading their rig solely because of imaginaryDDR4 performance gains...

I use DDR4 and it's nothing special. To be fair though, I'm on the low end clocked at 2400Mhz

 

[Shepard]

I have a 3570 but I was dumb enough to buy the non-K version, so I'm stuck with the 3,4Ghz clock. I'll make the jump to skylake for sure.

 

[ZOONAMI]

Argh... I just bulit a rig with a z97 and xeon 1231v3. It was only $209 at microcenter so i couldn't refuse. BCLK OCD to 3.9.

 

[Dead Prince]

i'm waiting for a good laptop with the new processor. along with a nice GPU inside. but my desktop is good for now.

 

[wildfire]

What about those of us with old dinosaurs like the Core i7 950?

Hold out until 4-5 high end games have been released.

Mantle results have shown that old Intel cpus get an fps jump when draw calls are increased.

The same will occur for DirectX 12 but you still may not like the performance jump on a resolution higher than 1080p.

 

[Hesemonni]

I have a 3570 but I was dumb enough to buy the non-K version, so I'm stuck with the 3,4Ghz clock. I'll make the jump to skylake for sure.

I'm running a 2500k and I haven't event felt the need to OC yet. What do you do with your computer in order to be bottlenecked by CPU?

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

I'm building a Gaming pc and by reading some fellas opinions here it seems waiting for Skylake won't give me relevant advantage in regards to gaming. I'm building a pc similar to the Smokey level on the OP page. Should I just stick with the i7 5820k and mobo MSI 99S?

 

[Henrar]

I hope nobody is upgrading their rig solely because of imaginaryDDR4 performance gains...

Faster RAM means performance gains, so they are not imaginary.

 

[shadowhunter89]

I still have an i7-950 so I'm certainly upgrading to Skylake.

If your motherboard supports it, grab a X56xx series CPU to replace it for a cheap upgrade.

I got a X5670 hexacore CPU and I overclocked it to 4ghz and it keeps up with my 5820K.

 

[Crazymoogle]

I'm building a Gaming pc and by reading some fellas opinions here it seems waiting for Skylake won't give me relevant advantage in regards to gaming. I'm building a pc similar to the Smokey level on the OP page. Should I just stick with the i7 5820k and mobo MSI 99S?

Depends what your videocard and software spec plans to be. I mean even that is overkill if you're not running a 980ti SLI config, in my opinion (versus, say, just running a modest 4690K/4790K overclock) I'm sure Anandtech or somewhere has good numbers on the details though

 

[Projectjustice]

Im set and happy with my 8350 thanks to a weak console generation. I'll be waiting on zen.

 

[qa_engineer]

skylake will match the hasewell-e's in instructions per cycle/performance but will be limited to 4 cores. Haswell-e which has a minimum of 6 cores is still the better buy if you aren't worried about price.

Nonsense. I've got one and in general they'll easily clock to 4.4Ghz on air cooling. You don't need water cooling and they overclock like a champ (+1Ghz).

Also, latest benches show a 5820k is significantly faster than the 6700k in CPU tasks at stock.

Yep. a simple search on youtube or google would have shown that the chips are easily overclocked to 4.0+ ghz on air cooling alone. I have mine connected to an AIO watercooler and it has no problem hitting those speeds and maintaining low temps on load.

 

[Renekton]

I have a 3570 but I was dumb enough to buy the non-K version, so I'm stuck with the 3,4Ghz clock. I'll make the jump to skylake for sure.

From stock 3570, you're not going to see an appreciable bump with anything except the 6core parts..

 

[mrboo001]

I have a i7 930 @ 2.8 GHz... thinking about upgrading to this but I just bought 16GM of DDR3 ram last year. Would this ram still work or would I have to buy new ones? I know DDR5 is the new standard but can it be backwards compatible?

 

[Felix Lighter]

I'm building a Gaming pc and by reading some fellas opinions here it seems waiting for Skylake won't give me relevant advantage in regards to gaming. I'm building a pc similar to the Smokey level on the OP page. Should I just stick with the i7 5820k and mobo MSI 99S?

I doubt anything that is released in the near future from Skylake will be any better than a well overclocked i7 5820K. The reason to go with Skylake is for saving money over Haswell-E while getting the new MB features.

 

[qa_engineer]

I doubt anything that is released in the near future from Skylake will be any better than a well overclocked i7 5820K. The reason to go with Skylake is for saving money over Haswell-E while getting the new MB features.

Yep. X99 and Haswell-E is Intel's flagship chip and platform for the next few years at least.

 

[Ryan_MSF]

bought an i7 4790k at the beginning of the year, think skylake will be the next upgrade for me.

 

[kinggroin]

What's so bad about the "higher end" FX CPUs (8350)? I bought one on budget and it seems fine for gaming (haven't tried emulation).

I thought most gaming is GPU limited nowadays - and DX12 will help alleviate and remaining bottlenecks on the CPU end (or at least better leverage what they're capable of)

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

Depends what your videocard and software spec plans to be. I mean even that is overkill if you're not running a 980ti SLI config, in my opinion (versus, say, just running a modest 4690K/4790K overclock) I'm sure Anandtech or somewhere has good numbers on the details though

Smokey level on the OP

I doubt anything that is released in the near future from Skylake will be any better than a well overclocked i7 5820K. The reason to go with Skylake is for saving money over Haswell-E while getting the new MB features.

Are the new MB features relevant to gaming?

 

[elelunicy]

I thought most gaming is GPU limited nowadays - and DX12 will help alleviate and remaining bottlenecks on the CPU end (or at least better leverage what they're capable of)

Most simulation/strategy games are CPU bound. Also, for people who are into 144hz gaming, they'll be much more likely to run into CPU bottlenecks. I'd imagine a great majority of games would become CPU limited at these high framerates.

 

[onken]

4770k @ 4.3 for lyfe (or until it keels over and dies..)

 

[aeolist]

Smokey level on the OP

Are the new MB features relevant to gaming?

features like sata express are important for the overall computing experience. faster storage does lead to shorter load times in games, but it's not the biggest difference.

still well worth it though.

 

[Damerman]

My 4790k is a perfect trio with my 970 and gsync monitor.

I'll probably give that comp to my sister when i have money to build on the x99 platform.

 

[PFD]

I just recently upgraded to the Core i5 4790k devil's canyon. It's a beast. Upgraded from a Core2Quad 9550.Very noticeable difference in performance.

I did a similar upgrade late last year (from Q6700). Night and day difference.

I expect the 4790k to last me at least 5 years