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Intel Core i9-14900K is 2% faster on average than Ryzen 9 7950X3D in official 1080p gaming performance slide - VideoCardz.com

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D is a strong competitor for Core i9-14900K A slide featuring Intel’s upcoming Core i9-14900K processor has been leaked ahead of launch. Intel Core i9-14900K vs. AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D,Source: HXL HXL has shared an Intel slide with Chinese text that is under embargo until October...

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HXL has shared an Intel slide with Chinese text that is under embargo until October 16th at 21:00 (likely Chinese time). This slide confirms the announcement date for Intel’s new desktop CPU series, referred to as Raptor Lake Refresh or the 14th Gen Core series. The primary focus of this announcement is the upcoming 24-core flagship CPU, the Core i9-14900K.

The slide showcases gaming performance, comparing the Core i9-14900K with AMD’s high-end AM5 CPU, the Ryzen 9 7950X3D. The Ryzen 9 7950X3D boasts 3D V-Cache technology, significantly enhancing its gaming performance. It is currently one of the best gaming CPUs on the market, right beside’s Ryzen 7 7800X3D with 8 Zen4 cores.

According to the information presented in the slide, the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D outperforms the Core i9-14900K in at least 9 out of 25 tested games. On the other hand, the Core i9-14900K demonstrates superior performance in at least 15 of the remaining titles, with one game showing a tie between both CPUs.

• DOTA 2: 77%
• Fortnite: 82%
• Cyberpunk 2077: 89%
• League of Legends: 94%
• Horizon Zero Dawn: 94%
• Final Fantasy 14: 95%
• Red Dead Redemption 2: 96%
• Forza Horizon 5: 98%
• Assassin’s Creed Valhalla: 99%
• Galaxy Breaker: 99%
• Company of Heroes 3: 100%
• Far Cry 6: 103%
• Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord: 103%
• COD: MW2: 103%
• GTA5: 105%
• Hitman 3: 106%
• Rainbow Six Siege: 107%
• World of Tanks Encore RT: 108%
• Serious Sam 4: 108%
• Civilization 6: 109%
• Counter Strike Global Offensive: 114%
• Ashes of the Singularity: 115%
• Total War Warhammer 3: 122%
• Starfield: 123%
• Metro Exodus: 123%
• AVERAGE: 102%

And for comparison, here is the average result from Techpowerup, with the 7950X3D, 13900KK, 7800X3D and several others.

 

[Silver Wattle]

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

2% and other added benefits when you press the power button

 

[GHG]

Most likely for double the powerdraw and double the heat.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Made for Canadian winters

 

[OverHeat]

My 7950x3d will stay in my system…for now

 

[Draugoth]

Doesnt the 14900K has more cores and threads? Doesnt that makes it better than the 7950X3D for unoptmized games?

 

[OverHeat]

Im going to the USA in January and im going to bring with me new CPUs for my machine, would it be better the 14900K or 7950X3D?

Wont matter electricity is dirt cheap in America

 

[Wooxsvan]

this is still 10nm? good grief i keep forgetting.

 

[STARSBarry]

What's the power draw?

 

[winjer]

this is still 10nm? good grief i keep forgetting.

It's Intel 7++

 

[Dream-Knife]

Doesnt the 14900K has more cores and threads? Doesnt that makes it better than the 7950X3D for unoptmized games?

Unoptimized games use like 2 threads.

 

[winjer]

Doesnt the 14900K has more cores and threads? Doesnt that makes it better than the 7950X3D for unoptmized games?

Still has 8 P-cores +16 E-cores.
And no. The E-cores do little to nothing for games.
Sometimes, they do hurt performance. For example, with Counter-Strike 2.

 

[DirtyBast8rd]

1080p testing.....

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

What's the power draw?

Its not bad

 

[winjer]

1080p testing.....

Yes. Otherwise we are benchmarking the GPU. Not the CPU.

 

[OverHeat]

1080p testing.....

Esport pro catered

 

[winjer]

2% and other added benefits when you press the power button

 

[bbeach123]

2% higher than 7950x3d mean below 7800x3d ?

 

[SmokSmog]

1080p testing.....

It's called CPU test

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Yes. Otherwise we are benchmarking the GPU. Not the CPU.

This is the funny thing about CPU reviews. Nobody buys a $500+ CPU and a 4090 to game at 1080p. But if you benchmark them at settings gamers would actually use (I.e. 4K high quality) then every $350+ CPU is within a couple % of each other.

Anything above 13700K/7800X3D only makes sense if you use your PC for other CPU-intensive stuff in addition to gaming.

 

[Bojji]

2% higher than 7950x3d mean below 7800x3d ?

Yeah, 7800x3d is usually faster than 7950x3d in games.

 

[Gaiff]

Yes. Otherwise we are benchmarking the GPU. Not the CPU.

Esport pro catered

It's called CPU test

Can't believe this still has to be explained. Same thing when a low or mid-tier GPU is paired with a top-tier CPU.

 

[Bojji]

This is the funny thing about CPU reviews. Nobody buys a $500+ CPU and a 4090 to game at 1080p. But if you benchmark them at settings gamers would actually use (I.e. 4K high quality) then every $350+ CPU is within a couple % of each other.

Anything above 13700K/7800X3D only makes sense if you use your PC for other CPU-intensive stuff in addition to gaming.

What they say is that this is how those CPUs perform compared to reach other in CPU heavy scenarios, future games could show that even in 4k and 1440p. There are games RIGHT NOW that can easily CPU linit your system in 1440p (with strong enogh GPU).

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

This is the funny thing about CPU reviews. Nobody buys a $500+ CPU and a 4090 to game at 1080p. But if you benchmark them at settings gamers would actually use (I.e. 4K high quality) then every $350+ CPU is within a couple % of each other.

Anything above 13700K/7800X3D only makes sense if you use your PC for other CPU-intensive stuff in addition to gaming.

I have mentioned this before I have a friend who plays shooters almost exclusively and has a monster PC with a 4090 and plays on a 1080p monitor either 27" or 24" at 360fps and claims he will be getting one of the 500+ FPS monitors soon

To each their own I guess

 

[Eotheod]

Wow, a whopping 2% difference in a select amount of titles. By gosh Intel has dropped the ball big time.

 

[nikos]

I don't regret upgrading to a 7800X3D last month. Never thought I'd say that.

Still curious to see 14th gen numbers. I'm sure it will at least be faster at a lot of things outside of gaming, which I don't care about.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Just goes to show that unless you're just some blind fanboy, AMD is the way to go for perf and thermals.

I was Intel for 10+years. I yield to perf too but not at the cost of that wattage.

 

[FireFly]

Now we're just waiting for Leonidas to declare it the gaming king.

 

[rofif]

For gaming, 7800x3d is still the best then ?

 

[OverHeat]

For gaming, 7800x3d is still the best then ?

Yes

 

[SF Kosmo]

Concern trolling about heat is tiresome. Intel chips are designed to run hotter. They can do it without throttling and their chips work fine with a normal air cooler.

TDP matters in laptops but I also don't get why anyone would care in a desktop, unless you are running a render farm.

 

[SF Kosmo]

For gaming, 7800x3d is still the best then ?

Depends on the game. Some games really like that 3D cache and others don't have much benefit. Games that are well optimized for multithreading are also generally faster in Intel. Starfield and Cyberpunk are way faster on Intel.

Don't listen to fanboys, the CPU field is super competitive right now, which is good for everyone.

 

[Solidus_T]

For gaming, 7800x3d is still the best then ?

Overall, yes. While it still dukes with other parts for the top spot, it will draw significantly less power compared to other parts that compete with it in performance, which also means it is easier to cool. If you are primarily gaming with your computer this is the best choice.

 

[winjer]

Depends on the game. Some games really like that 3D cache and others don't have much benefit. Games that are well optimized for multithreading are also generally faster in Intel. Starfield and Cyberpunk are way faster on Intel.

Don't listen to fanboys, the CPU field is super competitive right now, which is good for everyone.

On average, the 7800X3D is still the best performing CPU on the market. Not by a huge margin, but it's still the best.
But if we also consider power usage and platform longevity, then it becomes the best by a huge advantage.
The 13900K uses almost 3X more power than a 7800X3D. In gaming.

 

[Tsaki]

2% by first party testing? Yeah not a good look. I want to see the power draw on that thing as well.

 

[winjer]

2% by first party testing? Yeah not a good look. I want to see the power draw on that thing as well.

This is from the guru3d review of the 13900K, after an OC to 6.1Ghz.

As with all processors, you still have a bit of leash to overclock. With proper liquid cooling (an LCS kit with enough capacity), the easiest way to overclock is to select all cores towards your maximum multiplier. With these temps at hand, we advise the voltage regulated by the motherboard (auto). For Core i9-13900K, this seems to be in the 6100~6200 MHz areas, again that's all P cores. But that value is of course very impressive, we OCed to 6100 and can run a benchmark or two stable. However, as you can see, we now hit 100 Degrees C. Bit look at that single thread score, omg. Be advised that at this stage we're passing 450~500Watt power draw under processor load.

 

[Trogdor1123]

2% higher than 7950x3d mean below 7800x3d ?

Was going to say that too, they are a generation behind it would seem. Of course it’s not actually out yet so let’s not get too upset too fast…

 

[SF Kosmo]

On average, the 7800X3D is still the best performing CPU on the market. Not by a huge margin, but it's still the best.

On average, sure, but it's not definitive, and it depends a bit in what you want to run, and they're very close in general. And that's when we're talking about 13th gen. 14900k may eke out a better showing more consistently, so a lot of it is going to come down to price and value.

But if we also consider power usage and platform longevity, then it becomes the best by a huge advantage.
The 13900K uses almost 3X more power than a 7800X3D. In gaming.

We're talking about desktop gaming processors, "power usage" is just a completely irrelevant thing to bring up. TDP only matters in laptops or workstations that are running heavy shit 24/7. Otherwise we're talking about 30 cents a month on your power bill and let's just not waste our time on that.

Platform longevity is absolutely a selling point for AMD, especially when we're talking about these new 14th gen Intels. It's always a bit of a gamble just how long, but AMD is at the start of a cycle and Intel is at the end.

But for "gaming performance king" I think there's an argument for either and it's a very competitive field.

 

[Larogue]

Now I get why AMD didn't want to release Ryzen 8000 this year.

 

[winjer]

On average, sure, but it's not definitive, and it depends a bit in what you want to run, and they're very close in general. And that's when we're talking about 13th gen. 14900k may eke out a better showing more consistently, so a lot of it is going to come down to price and value.

The 7800X3D is already being sold for 349$
The 14900K is already listed in some stores for 560£

So the 7800X3D is much cheaper. Performs better. And uses much less power.

We're talking about desktop gaming processors, "power usage" is just a completely irrelevant thing to bring up. TDP only matters in laptops or workstations that are running heavy shit 24/7. Otherwise we're talking about 30 cents a month on your power bill and let's just not waste our time on that.

Platform longevity is absolutely a selling point for AMD, especially when we're talking about these new 14th gen Intels. It's always a bit of a gamble just how long, but AMD is at the start of a cycle and Intel is at the end.

But for "gaming performance king" I think there's an argument for either and it's a very competitive field.

Power usage is still important for desktops. For once, it means less cost in energy usage.
A cooler CPU also means you don't have to spend as much in a cooling system for it, the case and fans.
It also means it heats up the room much less. So it also saves in the AC bill.
And it also means we don't have to spend more money in a more powerful PSU.

So for a gaming system, the 7800X3D is by far, the best choice.

 

[Solidus_T]

The 7800X3D is already being sold for 349$
The 14900K is already listed in some stores for 560£

So the 7800X3D is much cheaper. Performs better. And uses much less power.



Power usage is still important for desktops. For once, it means less cost in energy usage.
A cooler CPU also means you don't have to spend as much in a cooling system for it, the case and fans.
It also means it heats up the room much less. So it also saves in the AC bill.
And it also means we don't have to spend more money in a more powerful PSU.

So for a gaming system, the 7800X3D is by far, the best choice.

Emphasizing everything in this post. The 7800X3D is outperforming CPUs from both Intel and AMD themselves that consume much more power, meaning that you don't need as hefty of a cooling solution for it. It is similar to what happened with the first release of Ryzen 7000 non 3D and Intel 13th gen, where the 5800X3D was outperforming both of those while drawing around 1/3rd the power. Overall the 8 core single CCD X3D chips are the best for people focused primarily on gaming.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Emphasizing everything in this post. The 7800X3D is outperforming CPUs from both Intel and AMD themselves that consume much more power, meaning that you don't need as hefty of a cooling solution for it. It is similar to what happened with the first release of Ryzen 7000 non 3D and Intel 13th gen, where the 5800X3D was outperforming both of those while drawing around 1/3rd the power. Overall the 8 core single CCD X3D chips are the best for people focused primarily on gaming.

Agreed, if you’re building a high-end gaming system today you’d be nuts to get anything except 7800X3D (and I’m saying this as a happy 13700k owner). It doesn’t win in every single scenario but it’s at or near the top in most of them. If you factor in price and power consumption then it blows away everything else.

Not to mention AM5 platform will likely be supported for at least 2-3 more CPU generations whereas Intel 14000 series is the last hurrah for LGA1700

 

[SF Kosmo]

Power usage is still important for desktops. For once, it means less cost in energy usage.

Come on, man, this is beyond negligible.

A cooler CPU also means you don't have to spend as much in a cooling system for it, the case and fans.

Complete myth. Intel CPUs don't require more cooling, because they have higher thermal limits and are designed to run hotter. They don't need to be cooled to the same temperature as an equivalent AMD chip, so they don't require additional cooling.

It also means it heats up the room much less. So it also saves in the AC bill.

Again, utterly negligible. Your GPU is going to be kicking out most of the heat in either scenario.

And it also means we don't have to spend more money in a more powerful PSU.

A difference of 50W in the PSU? I mean, sure? Again, who cares?

So for a gaming system, the 7800X3D is by far, the best choice.

I think there's a fine argument to be had for the 7800x3D as the best choice for gaming, but you really undermine that argument when you bring up silly nonsense and add phrases like "by far" that are simply untrue.

AMD has some advantages, a longer platform life with AM5, and better performance per dollar. But this idea that Intel chips are gonna heat up your house and require water cooling and run up your power bill are just ridiculous.

 

[Kakax11]

Even 13900k can beat 7950x3d in some games

 

[64bitmodels]

Intel chips do run hotter and consume more power, but they also tend to be cheaper these days compared to AMD, especially on the mobo side. It's fun to engage in Intel bashing but they still have a market.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Come on, man, this is beyond negligible.

Complete myth. Intel CPUs don't require more cooling, because they have higher thermal limits and are designed to run hotter. They don't need to be cooled to the same temperature as an equivalent AMD chip, so they don't require additional cooling.

Again, utterly negligible. Your GPU is going to be kicking out most of the heat in either scenario.


A difference of 50W in the PSU? I mean, sure? Again, who cares?


I think there's a fine argument to be had for the 7800x3D as the best choice for gaming, but you really undermine that argument when you bring up silly nonsense and add phrases like "by far" that are simply untrue.

AMD has some advantages, a longer platform life with AM5, and better performance per dollar. But this idea that Intel chips are gonna heat up your house and require water cooling and run up your power bill are just ridiculous.

Agree with some of your points, but temperature isn’t the same thing as heat. If your CPU consumes 250w then your cooler needs to transport 250w of heat away from the CPU, it’s that simple. Less heat to remove = you can run your fans cooler/quieter or get by with a cheaper cooler. Intel even recommends at least a 240mm AIO for 13900K

 

[Porticus]

Come on, man, this is beyond negligible.

Complete myth. Intel CPUs don't require more cooling, because they have higher thermal limits and are designed to run hotter. They don't need to be cooled to the same temperature as an equivalent AMD chip, so they don't require additional cooling.

Again, utterly negligible. Your GPU is going to be kicking out most of the heat in either scenario.


A difference of 50W in the PSU? I mean, sure? Again, who cares?


I think there's a fine argument to be had for the 7800x3D as the best choice for gaming, but you really undermine that argument when you bring up silly nonsense and add phrases like "by far" that are simply untrue.

AMD has some advantages, a longer platform life with AM5, and better performance per dollar. But this idea that Intel chips are gonna heat up your house and require water cooling and run up your power bill are just ridiculous.

Today I didn't read a post so delusional as yours.

 

[peish]

Intel core power is from overclocking all P cores and overclocking the ram.

doing so, will beat 7950x3d with a big gap.

 

[Three]

Concern trolling about heat is tiresome. Intel chips are designed to run hotter. They can do it without throttling and their chips work fine with a normal air cooler.

TDP matters in laptops but I also don't get why anyone would care in a desktop, unless you are running a render farm.

They aren't designed to run hotter, they're just less efficient. Sure they are designed to not get damaged or spontaneously combust but the chips have greater power draw and more heat output for little to no performance gain. That's not something beneficial even if you aren't running a render farm or carrying a laptop around.