SolidSnakex
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Tokyo Jungle's PS Vita Remote Play patch is release today in Japan as well. The NA and European versions will have the function included.
http://twitter.com/yosp/status/243589404298448896
ICO, SotC, God of War1/2 to have PS Vita remote play
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http://twitter.com/yosp/status/243589404298448896
I'm grinning like an idiot right now. So cool. I wonder of this will turn out to be a widespread feature on Sony's first party portfolio or only a case by case scenario?
Callibretto
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I was in the middle of playing legend of dragoon on vita when I tried remoteplay to play chrono cross on my ps3, after that I go back to my legend of dragoon on vita and I can still continue right from where I left off.
Arpeggio23
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So, I spent quite a while setting everything up yesterday, and I was very excited to see that God of War played exceptionally well over Remote Play via Private Network. However, this was originally tested literally 1 foot away from my PS3.
Well, later, I attempted to play God of War again via Remote Play over Private Network, but this time I was upstairs, but literally directly above the PS3, probably a total of 8 feet away with one floor in-between. In this scenario, it was completely and utterly unplayable. Start and stop, herk and jerk, hitch and hiccup. The entire time. Why on earth would this be?
Any help would be appreciated.
Well, later, I attempted to play God of War again via Remote Play over Private Network, but this time I was upstairs, but literally directly above the PS3, probably a total of 8 feet away with one floor in-between. In this scenario, it was completely and utterly unplayable. Start and stop, herk and jerk, hitch and hiccup. The entire time. Why on earth would this be?
Any help would be appreciated.
Sold.
Assuming you're speaking here about WLAN. I does not matter if it's 8 feet or not. Your problem is the floor. WLAN works drops network speed when it gets out of line of sight. And other issue is the vertical signal being weaker. There is reason why this was done:
According to Yosp it uses quite a lot of system resources so isn't possible in every game.
Yes. Noticed that tweet also. So no future Uncharted, The Last of Us, God of War Ascension Vita remote play... I remember that Killzone 2 (or was it 3?) was demoed in a Sony conference though.
Arpeggio23
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I'm probably wrong, but doesn't the Private Network setting connect the Vita directly to the PS3, bypassing the router entirely? If not, would I have more success connecting via the Internet?
I wonder if it will be a universal feature in PS4 games.
Although knowing Sony they'll let devs turn it off for whatever reason (ala the Vita screenshot function).
Still, it should be at least see more widespread support in PS4. Probably a gaikai-ed version too for higher quality/less lag. With full control of the software stack I think it'd be interesting what the gaikai people might be able to bring to a PS4 implementation.
Now that would be pretty amazing.
Have you considered a Wifi extender ?
Yeah... when PS4 happens, we should already have pervasive wireless display solutions from multiple vendors. Sony will need to enable RemotePlay "automatically".
With Gaikai, I'm hoping they enable local streaming, _and_ cloud services/server-based community features (aka a more streamlined Playstation Home). That should free up local resources for gaming.
Callibretto
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I just beat a colossus in vita from my bedroom. my ps3 is on my home theater room. it's a pretty cool experience, and work pretty damn good.
Should be. Tbh I'd have thought it could be doable with the OS reserved SPEl but I guess there is other overhead to consider
Yeah, if the game is tailored for RemotePlay, they can draw to smaller buffers. So it should save resources.
However, the PS3 will also need to run the RemotePlay server, dealing with additional network traffic. This will consume more resources, on top of handling remote I/O asap.
I suppose the net effect is we use up more resources. 8^(
Cornbread78
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I took the plunge and ordered ICO/SoTC from wal-mart.com last night for $19.96, I missed them durign the PS2 era, so it's a good opportunity to grind them out via remote plan.
Wife watches "Say "yes" to that dress", and I'll be playing ICO.... Also get to clear GoW1-2 from my backlog.... Luvin' it even more now........
Wife watches "Say "yes" to that dress", and I'll be playing ICO.... Also get to clear GoW1-2 from my backlog.... Luvin' it even more now........
Betta Lines
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I'd like to offer Hanmik an apology, I made a snarky joke about him probably being used to a laggy tv and not noticing the lag that I assumed would be terrible. But I tried GoW1 HD today and it's way better than I was expecting, much better than my Remote Play experience on PSP (and indeed on Vita before the updates).
There is still a little bit of lag but it's totally playable and I'm rather impressed!
Ok. You just costed me 60 hehehehe I did some shopping around a few months back but the form factor wasn't perfect for us with a small child in our house. That first Netgear extender on your link that plugs directly on the outlet seems perfect! Bought. Thank you.
I don't know if this was mentioned but you can suspend a Vita game and Remote Play without having to close the game.
Ok. You just costed me 60€ hehehehe I did some shopping around a few months back but the form factor wasn't perfect for us with a small child in our house. That first Netgear extender on your link that plugs directly on the outlet seems perfect! Bought. Thank you.
Oh-kay... Netgear now owe me some commission ! >:3
Yap. However the Vita will not be able to access the Internet by swiping away from a live RemotePlay session. The net traffic won't route. You have to access the Internet via the RemotePlay'ed PS3. Once you drop the RemotePlay session, the Vita can access the Internet again.
Do extenders not introduce additional lag though? I always thought introducing another "relay" might add this.
It might. I have been playing with Airport Extreme and Airport Express (Wifi extender) in my office. Will need more time to experiment with RemotePlay over them.
PushingButtons
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Finally got to test SotC over RemotePlay. I didn't notice any lag. Game is very playable but 2-3 times I did see brief pauses while exploring. Combat seems to be okay so far. Going back to kill my first Colossus now. ^_^ [Awesome music !]
You're welcomed.
You're welcomed.
Callibretto
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yeah, but I think when I lost connection to remote play, I can simply reconnect remote play again and it'll be back to where I left off on my ps3. your ps3 didn't automatically turned off if you lost remote play connection.
so let's say you're play sotc via remote play on vita, exit remote play, use vita online function etc, then when you restart remote play again, it'll be back to sotc where you left off. so dropping remoteplay session is not a big deal
Ein Bear
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Blue Submarine No. 6
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Ya, this my problem with Remote Play too - my house is too big and my PS3 is in a far corner of the basement, so I get great performance from my music room and kitchen but I get too much lag from my comfy chair. Will have to buy another PS3.I did. It's rubbish. This feature to play games is meant to be used at home and without much walls between the Vita and the PS3. No bathroom gaming for me... Too many walls.
Another thing I'm wondering about with PS4 and future revisions of Vita...namely if they'll include other wireless tech for further-improved performance. They have the opportunity to do that with new hardware, and the fallback to wifi/bluetooth for local play and wifi for totally remote play means they don't have to break compatibility with the first Vitas...just offering 'improved' remote play in new revs.
This way they could also always offer the technically best possible solution depending on your circumstances, and your physical/network proximity to your PS4.
Then again, maybe the gains of another new wireless tech would be diminishing vs the current solution...and not worth extra expense. Disclaimer: I still have not tried it, so I don't know if it is yet 'good enough'
Callibretto
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someone mention using wifi extender, I wonder if it'll work with that.
I have my ps3 setup on my tv room via wifi, I get around 70% signal strength from my router in work room. now when I tried remote play from my bedroom, if I play it near the door, which is closer to my PS3, I can get very smooth remoteplay, but change my position to my bed and I start getting problem XD
edit: it's a strange since my bedroom is closer to my router but looks like distance with ps3 is the one that matter.
Callibretto
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Another thing I'm wondering about with PS4 and future revisions of Vita...namely if they'll include other wireless tech for further-improved performance. They have the opportunity to do that with new hardware, and the fallback to wifi/bluetooth for local play and wifi for totally remote play means they don't have to break compatibility with the first Vitas...just offering 'improved' remote play in new revs.
This way they could also always offer the technically best possible solution depending on your circumstances, and your physical/network proximity to your PS4.
Then again, maybe the gains of another new wireless tech would be diminishing vs the current solution...and not worth extra expense. Disclaimer: I still have not tried it, so I don't know if it is yet 'good enough'
in optimal condition like local network in the same room with ps3, it totally work perfectly, maybe there are lags, but I didn't notice it and very playable. now they just to improve the local network range or connection through internet.
So I'm trying to set this up, but my configuration is a bit weird.
I have an original 20GB PS3 - i.e. the kind that didn't come with wifi.
I have it connected wirelessly to my router via a mac mini.
Is it possible to pair a Vita to my PS3 for remote play? There seems to be conflicting advice about whether you need wifi or not on your PS3.
Out of the box it's not working for me - when I try to register my Vita with my PS3, it fails.
Anyone have any ideas?
edit - I tried plugging my Vita into my PS3 via USB for the purposes of pairing but same result...
I have an original 20GB PS3 - i.e. the kind that didn't come with wifi.
I have it connected wirelessly to my router via a mac mini.
Is it possible to pair a Vita to my PS3 for remote play? There seems to be conflicting advice about whether you need wifi or not on your PS3.
Out of the box it's not working for me - when I try to register my Vita with my PS3, it fails.
Anyone have any ideas?
edit - I tried plugging my Vita into my PS3 via USB for the purposes of pairing but same result...
I vaguely remember 20Gb PS3 doesn't support RemotePlay since it doesn't have built-in Wifi. But I am not sure at all.
From what I'm reading you could pair a PSP to a 20Gb PS3 over usb, but the option seems to be gone from Vita. Pity it can't pair over USB or bluetooth and then let you connect over a internet connection. Wouldn't be good as the private network option but it would work.
Yeah, I think that's it.
gofreak said:Another thing I'm wondering about with PS4 and future revisions of Vita...namely if they'll include other wireless tech for further-improved performance. They have the opportunity to do that with new hardware, and the fallback to wifi/bluetooth for local play and wifi for totally remote play means they don't have to break compatibility with the first Vitas...just offering 'improved' remote play in new revs.
This way they could also always offer the technically best possible solution depending on your circumstances, and your physical/network proximity to your PS4.
Then again, maybe the gains of another new wireless tech would be diminishing vs the current solution...and not worth extra expense. Disclaimer: I still have not tried it, so I don't know if it is yet 'good enough'
I'm guessing we may see new wireless option in PS Mobile first before PS4. It's easier to add an app framework, and also PS Mobile apps may need to deal with multi-platform features/issues.
fuck. yes.
my precious.
So jelly.
No I played on my wifi and my extender out on my back porch. Both god of war and ico ran fine. Be sure you config the extender correctly and it should be fine.
Arpeggio23
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I posted earlier that when I am one floor above my PS3 and router, my Remote Play performance tanks. I have tried both Private Network and Internet connections, and the performance is terrible in both cases. Again, the total distance between my Vita and my PS3/router in this scenario is approximately 8 feet with one floor in-between. It was suggested that the reason my Remote Play performance degrades so severely is because of the floor. However, I do not think this is the case, and here is why: I am able to stream full-bar HD movies to my 360, which is upstairs, without any problems. I am able to use my iPad upstairs to watch HD videos, surf the web, etc. without any problems. My signal strength on my Vita is full when I am upstairs, and I have never had any problems downloading games, watching videos, or surfing the web on it -- but, when I try to Remote Play, it is basically non-functional. In other words, my floor has never been a problem before, and it shouldn't be now. There must be something else going on.
Does anyone have any ideas? Please? I really want this to work.
Does anyone have any ideas? Please? I really want this to work.
Does it work if you're in the same room as your PS3, or anywhere on the first floor ?
AgentP
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Latency induced from wi-fi should add 1-2 ms at worst, even if you double that for adding an extender you will never notice it. Remember the wireless part is at the speed of light, the real latency is from the electronics.I will try to ping my router from my laptop tonight.
Edit: Just did the test. Laptop on wi-fi, near extender which talk to router: 2ms average ping.