nial
Gold Member
Weird, I thought you were talking about 'all of their 1st party releases' or 'PlayStation games in general'.
Also, what's with the weird hostility? Do people behave like that when being proven wrong?
[IGN] I’m Getting Bored of Every PlayStation Game Telling the Same Story
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DeepEnigma
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If they're guilty of anything, is that they're consistent in their end product more often than not. And that makes a lot of people mad for different reasons.
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nial
Gold Member
That's a Namco game.When you think back to what Sony used to put out, man, its so sad..
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
On a Sony system
nial
Gold Member
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
I never played it on another system
nial
Gold Member
That's like saying that Nintendo is putting out all the AI hentai puzzle slop exclusive to Switch.I never played it on another system
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
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I have a 13% agree on this but it's cheap and not entirely true even if I think they're having a "down" generation.
I have a 13% agree on this but it's cheap and not entirely true even if I think they're having a "down" generation.
mayham2199
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I actually stopped reading books and just played video games. The only time I went back to reading books was for a short time when I stopped playing games cause there was nothing out for months. This was back during the 360 days. Now there's plenty to play so I don't need to do that anymore.
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MacReady13
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Hostility? Over games? Why should I care what you or anyone else thinks about my opinion that it would be enough to anger me? I have my thoughts and you clearly don't agree so good for you. But no hostility from me. Couldn't give a fuck what others think! Hope that helps.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Because some people here (you included) seem to want to dumb down a conversation like this, one day after the GamePass reckoning happened. You speak as if all games that are 3D are the same. Real gamers do NOT talk like that. Nobody thinks Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, and The Last of Us are similar. NOBODY!
nial
Gold Member
Okay, then what was the need for this in the discussion?
I'm arguing the matter over your own determined rules, you decide to move goalposts and then slightly insult me for no reason. You do this every time you get proven wrong?
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
How is Helldivers 2 anything like Spiderman 2?
Fabieter
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
I'm actually adding nuance to the conversation by trying to get you to think in terms of "degree of similarity". You seem to be supporting a simplified, binary mode of thought (similar or dissimilar). The three games you listed do not explore the gamut of the medium very well.
Also, Xbox has nothing to do with this conversation. You seem to think the only way someone could disagree with you here is if...(checks notes)...they're Xbox fanboys. Strange leap.
MacReady13
Member
I did mention it was mainly about triple A games, but yes, Helldivers 2 (the game Sony wanted nothing to do with until it became a HUGE hit) is completely different to Spiderman 2.
lachesis
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Well, grief and revenge is what tend to motivate people and even justify violence, which those 3rd person cinematic videogames heavily rely on.
Who would buy if the game's about loss of special someone - then the whole game is sitting in front of a shrink and selecting the right language prompt?
It's just our innate human nature IMHO - and easiest path to flow for a devs to come up with a story. In its own, it maybe interesting enough - but as you see them in whole genre, it ends up being same old, same old.
To come up with something completely new, yet commercially viable as AAA scale - it would be like coming up with a porn w/o any sort of sexual activity - yet sells millions of copies in mass. Quite difficult feat.
The whole notion of mature story driven = I rarely think the stories are really mature either. Suitable for maybe young adult or teens.
Who would buy if the game's about loss of special someone - then the whole game is sitting in front of a shrink and selecting the right language prompt?
It's just our innate human nature IMHO - and easiest path to flow for a devs to come up with a story. In its own, it maybe interesting enough - but as you see them in whole genre, it ends up being same old, same old.
To come up with something completely new, yet commercially viable as AAA scale - it would be like coming up with a porn w/o any sort of sexual activity - yet sells millions of copies in mass. Quite difficult feat.
The whole notion of mature story driven = I rarely think the stories are really mature either. Suitable for maybe young adult or teens.
ByWatterson
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Is his problem with revenge or pathos generally? If revenge, what was the revenge angle in Spider-Man 2, Forbidden West, Returnal, Ragnarok, Astro Bot, or Death Stranding 2?
Seems to me like this IGN person thinks two revenge stories (TLOU2 and GoY) is one too many?
If pathos, generally, and a focus on family, the complaint is that family matters more than anything else, which of course would upset the childless California crowd.
Ah, there it is:
Seems to me like this IGN person thinks two revenge stories (TLOU2 and GoY) is one too many?
If pathos, generally, and a focus on family, the complaint is that family matters more than anything else, which of course would upset the childless California crowd.
Ah, there it is:
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cash_longfellow
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Bold, coming from IGN 
Zacfoldor
Member
I'm okay with the same story.
I would like limited social messaging and hotter chicks. Maybe play it a little less safe in the gameplay dept and I'm good. Kratos in Ragnarok sucked and Mary Jane in Spider-Man 2 looks like a man hater with that jut-jaw. I hated TLOU2 ending but I actually don't really blame Sony for that. Concord garbage sucks but Sony knows that now. I don't know WTF is going on over at Bungie and I kinda really believe Fairgame$(name changed) is never going to release, so I'm ambivalent about it all.
I would like limited social messaging and hotter chicks. Maybe play it a little less safe in the gameplay dept and I'm good. Kratos in Ragnarok sucked and Mary Jane in Spider-Man 2 looks like a man hater with that jut-jaw. I hated TLOU2 ending but I actually don't really blame Sony for that. Concord garbage sucks but Sony knows that now. I don't know WTF is going on over at Bungie and I kinda really believe Fairgame$(name changed) is never going to release, so I'm ambivalent about it all.
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Humdinger
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The stories are not all the same. That's a huge oversimplification.
However, they all take themselves Very Seriously. Apart from the similar presentation style, that is what stands out the most to me - how Seriously they take themselves. There is very little lightness or humor to them. Everything is deadly serious - the stakes are high, the risks are great, the passions are deep, the dialog is direct, the relationships tense, the tone heavy.
Where is the levity? Where is the fun? Everything is dark and serious. Ratchet and Clank and Astrobot would be exceptions, but everything else seems Very Serious to me. That's fine here and there, but I miss the lightness and levity of earlier eras (compare to Uncharted 1-3, for instance).
However, they all take themselves Very Seriously. Apart from the similar presentation style, that is what stands out the most to me - how Seriously they take themselves. There is very little lightness or humor to them. Everything is deadly serious - the stakes are high, the risks are great, the passions are deep, the dialog is direct, the relationships tense, the tone heavy.
Where is the levity? Where is the fun? Everything is dark and serious. Ratchet and Clank and Astrobot would be exceptions, but everything else seems Very Serious to me. That's fine here and there, but I miss the lightness and levity of earlier eras (compare to Uncharted 1-3, for instance).
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Pretty sureMen_in_Boxes doesnt care about Xbox and just want more gaas games instead.
Oh I 100% that's what he mainly cares about. I'm fond of
Men_in_Boxes
background on GAF. To the bolded.......I'm extremely disappointed in the lack of honesty and level of discourse with this conversation. It has nothing to do with someone agreeing with me or not. The whole conversation started off bad based on the title of OP and IGN's article. Everyone (if you're being honest) knows for a fact that every Sony game doesn't tell the same story. We all know that to be a lie. So now we have to deduce what the author "REALLY" meant, which is a lost cause because our opinions will differ since the premise of the written article is so bad.
Do they mean.....
- Sony makes too many 3rd person games?
- Sony makes too many games with darkness to them?
- Sony makes too many 3D games?
- Sony makes too many games with women leading them?
- Sony makes too many games that have revenge stories?
And who are you to say Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, and The Last of Us don't explore the gamit of the medium very well? Isn't that on the overall gamers to decide? What if that's what the people love? Only a small/weird minority of people think those 3 games are too similar. To the rest of us, they explore totally different vibes, gameplay styles, entertainment value types, etc.
Helldivers 2 is their IP
. They were the ones to greenlight the 2nd one, after the first one was a cult classic. Even the devs stated that Sony stuck with them after a long 8 or 9 dev cycle. No reason to randomly act like Sony cares about certain games, but not others.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
My mistake.Oh I 100% that's what he mainly cares about. I'm fond of
To the bolded.......I'm extremely disappointed in the lack of honesty and level of discourse with this conversation. It has nothing to do with someone agreeing with me or not. The whole conversation started off bad based on the title of OP and IGN's article. Everyone (if you're being honest) knows for a fact that every Sony game doesn't tell the same story. We all know that to be a lie. So now we have to deduce what the author "REALLY" meant, which is a lost cause because our opinions will differ since the premise of the written article is so bad.
Do they mean.....
- Sony makes too many 3rd person games?
- Sony makes too many games with darkness to them?
- Sony makes too many 3D games?
- Sony makes too many games with women leading them?
- Sony makes too many games that have revenge stories?
And who are you to say Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, and The Last of Us don't explore the gamit of the medium very well? Isn't that on the overall gamers to decide? What if that's what the people love? Only a small/weird minority of people think those 3 games are too similar. To the rest of us, they explore totally different vibes, gameplay styles, entertainment value types, etc.
Helldivers 2 is their IP
You centering it on story, as the title of this thread suggests, is far more reasonable. My apologies.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
The funny thing is, it's easy to show that these people that say these things are lying right now. Your point about grief and revenge are perfect though. We've seen or heard about those stories for literally 1,000s of years!
Yep, exactly. Here's an example of what I'm really getting at. This is the author of this article.....
And here (timestamped) Simon also says Expedition 33 is one of his favorite games all-time.
How is Expedition 33 NOT similar in story "tone" to these other games he's saying he's tired of?
Fabieter
Member
Yeah that's fair. The real problem is the structure and the repetitive side content. But the themes are definitely similar to alot of other beloved games.
Lightbreak
Member
The funny thing is, it's easy to show that these people that say these things are lying right now. Your point about grief and revenge are perfect though. We've seen or heard about those stories for literally 1,000s of years!
Yep, exactly. Here's an example of what I'm really getting at. This is the author of this article.....
And here (timestamped) Simon also says Expedition 33 is one of his favorite games all-time.
How is Expedition 33 NOT similar in story "tone" to these other games he's saying he's tired of?
Because is not a Sony title and probably that article was funded by M$
AmuroChan
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The funny thing is, it's easy to show that these people that say these things are lying right now. Your point about grief and revenge are perfect though. We've seen or heard about those stories for literally 1,000s of years!
Yep, exactly. Here's an example of what I'm really getting at. This is the author of this article.....
And here (timestamped) Simon also says Expedition 33 is one of his favorite games all-time.
How is Expedition 33 NOT similar in story "tone" to these other games he's saying he's tired of?
It's too logical. I think it's as simple as this writer knows the article will get clicks and engagement, and that's why he wrote it.
MacReady13
Member
But who is denying that? I was specifically talking about triple A games. But hey, whatever. Sony fanboys are going to cream their jocks over anything Sony.Helldivers 2 is their IP
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
And yet the same exact author wrote this about Spiderman 2.
It's beyond obvious that this is a click-bait article. There's just no way Simon truly believes what he wrote right here about Spider-Man 2 and also the article he wrote today about Sony's first party games. He either lied back then or he's lying now. Which one?
It's beyond obvious that this is a click-bait article. There's just no way Simon truly believes what he wrote right here about Spider-Man 2 and also the article he wrote today about Sony's first party games. He either lied back then or he's lying now. Which one?
I collect VHS tapes
Gold Member
I thought he was an Xbox shill tho. That's what people in this thread are saying at leastAnd yet the same exact author wrote this about Spiderman 2.
It's beyond obvious that this is a click-bait article. There's just no way Simon truly believes what he wrote right here about Spider-Man 2 and also the article he wrote today about Sony's first party games. He either lied back then or he's lying now. Which one?
Why would an Xbox shill praise Spider-man?
Lightbreak
Member
Maybe a comic book fan?I thought he was an Xbox shill tho. That's what people in this thread are saying at least
Why would an Xbox shill praise Spider-man?
I collect VHS tapes
Gold Member
So he's an Xbox shill that praised a Sony game because they enjoy comics
Is this the new theory for Sony bros in the thread
kpopSuperstar
Member
I swear all this frustration towards Sony comes from Ragnarok and the bloated slow and overly talkative walking sections. It was like poison to the soul and changed the way people view Sony games.
Poppinfresh
Member
Haven't played Ragnarok (yet) but forced walking/talking scenes are the worst in every single game that uses them.
Just make it a damn cutscene and be done with it. Don't force me to walk at a slow pace and talk to another character.
Xbox 360 slim
Member
Just wanting a FPS game from sony tbh. Woudl kill for a killzone 2 remake/build without the dumbass sixaxis controls.
Guardian Monkey
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Lightbreak
Member
My official take: he got paid for that as well as he got paid for this article, money doesn't make distinctions
Unofficial take: Someone can like Spiderman in the comics or movies and also likes the game, a lot of people have been waiting for a good Spiderman game for ages
And using the term Sony bro just makes you an Xbox fanatic
Lightbreak
Member
Be prepared, Ragnarök is full of those moments
Xbox 360 slim
Member
More like it was the straw that broke the camels back. Look, those games are fine, and I even enjoy a bunch of them. Just not when that's all they spam. Variety is the spice of life. Xbox offers RPGs, multiplayer games, and the occasional narrative game. Sony just spams 3rd person narrative games. More helldivers 2 and astrobot in between the TLOU2's and Ghost of's , please.
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MiguelItUp
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IGN is really banking on these bait articles and everyone is giving them clicks. Which is what they want.
I collect VHS tapes
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But people call me a Nintendo fanboy and PC fanboy in other threads
is that just peoples go to retort in this thread when they can't come up with a better argument?Playtime wise nothing comes close to PC for me for UO and D2R alone. Nintendo would be my most played console followed by PlayStation (owned ps1-4). Funny enough if you search my history you'll see the xsx is the only Xbox I've ever owned
I actually played with many of the PC players on this very forum when d2r was first released. I stopped lurking and made this very account right around when d2r came out for that purpose. You'll see my join date matches up
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It's a little easier to do that when you spend 80 billion dollars buying publishers, don't you think?
PauloRoberto
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I wont say this article is wrong... but this guy will have a bad time when realize how many times Browser politically destabilized the Mushroom Kindgom...
ShadyAcshuns
Member
You always act like a know-it-all when anyone talks anything about Sony. Then you knit pick over dumb shit no one cares about. People don't care about specifics when they are talking about their favorite games and how they enjoy them, so just chill out.
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nial
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Joining a conversation you are not part of only to make a comment that has nothing to do with anything was not worth it. This is not the first time I've gotten a weirdly personal response out of you, so please 'just chill out'.