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IGN's Top 100 RPGs of All Time
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I think we are at a point where the Genesis trilogy of Phantasy Star has become but a distant memory for the industry and that is really sad. II and IV are great classics.
TheJollyCorner
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FFIX and XII higher than VII? No FFVIII, V, or X?
Are we sure this is IGN's list or a GAF voting result thread?
Shameful.
Are we sure this is IGN's list or a GAF voting result thread?
Shameful.
Not a bad top 20 at all, but I am indeed saddened that classic rpgs that were huge influencers on pc like Dungeon Master and the Westwood classics (EotB and LoL) were not included anywhere when "ok" jobbers like Betrayal at Krondor were. Not to mention Ultima Underworld...
Edit: nm, at least Uuw was included, though pretty low.
Edit: nm, at least Uuw was included, though pretty low.
TheJollyCorner
Member
Hironobu Sakaguchi, Yuji Hori, Akira Toriyama, Yoshinori Kitase, Nobuo Uematsu, Hiroyuki Ito, Yasunori Mitsuda... yeah... those names working together was monstrous.
I'd be surprised if we see anything like that in game development again.
Hello? This is Hailun!
Member
No Soul Blazer. No Wasteland 1 or 2. No Terranigma. Those are probably not top 20.
No Final Fantasy Tactics or Earthbound though those could make it to top 20.
ed
NVM, OP didn't update.
20 Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together
19 EarthBound
18 Final Fantasy Tactics
I'm good with that. Top 20 is basically picking nits. The fact that these three great and old games were there is good enough.
But Earthbound > Chrono Trigger. Tactics Ogre > FFT
No Final Fantasy Tactics or Earthbound though those could make it to top 20.
ed
NVM, OP didn't update.
20 Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together
19 EarthBound
18 Final Fantasy Tactics
I'm good with that. Top 20 is basically picking nits. The fact that these three great and old games were there is good enough.
But Earthbound > Chrono Trigger. Tactics Ogre > FFT
Flakster99
Member
That is one of the, if not the best top 10 RPG's of all time lists I have ever seen. They absolutely nailed the top 3, and on any given day I can make a case for either game being the BEST RPG OF ALL TIME.
I am also absolutely thrilled they understand how important games such as Baldur's Gate 2, Planescape: Torment, and World of Warcraft are to not only our industry, but RPG history.
/salute IGN
I am also absolutely thrilled they understand how important games such as Baldur's Gate 2, Planescape: Torment, and World of Warcraft are to not only our industry, but RPG history.
/salute IGN
I will say the top 20 is a lot better than the bottom half of the list. Except for pokemon yellow because honestly..
If you're going to make a top 100 list then shouldn't the people allowing these placements all know what they're putting in? Most RPG fanatics would easily point out that LoD is not deserving to be placed above games like Valkyria Chronicles, DQ VII, EverQuest, etc. It even being allowed to be ranked while huge games like Final Fantasy VIII and X don't even qualify is a bizarre choice no matter how much dislike they feel towards these two. VIII had it's own influences and while it's nowhere near as huge as games like VI, VII, CT, it brought forth full proportioned characters, a different approach to developing it's lead character, gorgeous soundtrack that blended many different styles two of which are huge hits outside of just the game itself and it's own unique battle system. X was also doing that for PS2 Final Fantasy and was the next big jump for graphic changes and voice acting.
So I guess my point is, what actually determined what you put on this list and where they went? Like I would love to see how someone argued LoD over all the games I just brought up lol
Edit: The funniest thing of all is I actually LIKE LoD. I grew up with it and it will always have a special place in my heart but that doesn't change the fact it's a very mediocre RPG.
I don't think anyone is upset. I've come to expect CT and FF VI to be top 5 pretty much from every ranking list. It's more that not everyone thinks it's the number 1 greatest RPG out there so seeing it always ranked 1 might be a little hard to understand for people who feel that way. I don't care that it's number 1 because it is an amazing game but It's definitely not my favourite.
If you're going to make a top 100 list then shouldn't the people allowing these placements all know what they're putting in? Most RPG fanatics would easily point out that LoD is not deserving to be placed above games like Valkyria Chronicles, DQ VII, EverQuest, etc. It even being allowed to be ranked while huge games like Final Fantasy VIII and X don't even qualify is a bizarre choice no matter how much dislike they feel towards these two. VIII had it's own influences and while it's nowhere near as huge as games like VI, VII, CT, it brought forth full proportioned characters, a different approach to developing it's lead character, gorgeous soundtrack that blended many different styles two of which are huge hits outside of just the game itself and it's own unique battle system. X was also doing that for PS2 Final Fantasy and was the next big jump for graphic changes and voice acting.
So I guess my point is, what actually determined what you put on this list and where they went? Like I would love to see how someone argued LoD over all the games I just brought up lol
Edit: The funniest thing of all is I actually LIKE LoD. I grew up with it and it will always have a special place in my heart but that doesn't change the fact it's a very mediocre RPG.
Looks like Nocturne was snobbed out of a position again. At this point I just expect it to be absent from these lists. I suppose Final Fantasy I, DA: Inquisition, The Legend of Dragoon are the better choices.
Can't say I'm surprised about the first 2 positions. I was expecting either CT or FF VI to take the top spot and there it is. Either way, pretty uninteresting top 100 all around.
Can't say I'm surprised about the first 2 positions. I was expecting either CT or FF VI to take the top spot and there it is. Either way, pretty uninteresting top 100 all around.
Oracle Dragon
Member
Wow, I thought I was doing good... but now that the list is complete:
38% - Total games on the list I've played
25% - Total games on the list I've finished
Clearly, I have to step my RPG game up!
It would be kind of interesting to have a contest to play through the list, but on the other hand this seems infeasible... even rushing, some of these games are a large number of hours. At one a week (a breakneck pace), it would take two years
38% - Total games on the list I've played
25% - Total games on the list I've finished
Clearly, I have to step my RPG game up!
It would be kind of interesting to have a contest to play through the list, but on the other hand this seems infeasible... even rushing, some of these games are a large number of hours. At one a week (a breakneck pace), it would take two years
Paltheos
Member
No Valkyrie Profile at all? They must have forgotten it. You don't formulate a list of top 100 RPGs and not include either game. Even if you don't think it stands with the best of the best, the popular belief is that it's damn good.
Edit: I just browsed again and noticed that no tri-ace game aside from Star Ocean 2 made the list. Damn, man. RIP the dream. I would have placed Resonance of Fate... somewhere in the top 100.
Edit: I just browsed again and noticed that no tri-ace game aside from Star Ocean 2 made the list. Damn, man. RIP the dream. I would have placed Resonance of Fate... somewhere in the top 100.
Wow, I thought I was doing good... but now that the list is complete:
38% - Total games on the list I've played
25% - Total games on the list I've finished
Clearly, I have to step my RPG game up!
It would be kind of interesting to have a contest to play through the list, but on the other hand this seems infeasible... even rushing, some of these games are a large number of hours. At one a week (a breakneck pace), it would take two years
I have played 82% of the list and will probably end up eventually playing half of those I haven't. Unfortunately not a single game on this list was new to me, it would have been nice to make some new discoveries.
DarkestHour
Banned
Good list!
MrSaturn99
Member
Earthbound at 19? I'll take it.
Very surprised only two Pokemon gens made it.
Very surprised only two Pokemon gens made it.
Very surprised Fallout 2 is as high as it is. Usually, its between Fallout 3 and New Vegas, but someone is actually acknowledging the role playing wonder that is Fallout 2. I am okay with this. Then we have Deus Ex, The Witcher 3, KOTOR, Dark Souls, and Baldur's Gate 2. Overall, this turned out to be a pretty good list. Apparently Oblivion isn't good enough to be on the list at all though. I should probably bother to read through the list to see their reasons for why they chose what they chose though, now that I've seen the full thing.
Infinitely better taste than Game Informer, I'll say that much. Including Destiny on their list and then putting Skyrim at #1. Pretty DIS-GUST-ING.
Infinitely better taste than Game Informer, I'll say that much. Including Destiny on their list and then putting Skyrim at #1. Pretty DIS-GUST-ING.
Chip N Chance
Member
Chrono Trigger is so damn good. I played it much later after it came out on the DS too. So nostalgia aside, its just a perfectly crafted RPG in my eyes.
Paltheos
Member
Wow, I thought I was doing good... but now that the list is complete:
38% - Total games on the list I've played
25% - Total games on the list I've finished
Clearly, I have to step my RPG game up!
It would be kind of interesting to have a contest to play through the list, but on the other hand this seems infeasible... even rushing, some of these games are a large number of hours. At one a week (a breakneck pace), it would take two years
Decided to tally them up for myself while I was it.
40% played
30% finished
Not so dissimilar boat. And no you can't really race through them. Game lengths are too different I'm afraid.
Yeah, I simply disagree. I had plenty of fun with it. Didn't have too many AI issues either.
Nothing wrong with that at all, though I would put VII and IX ahead of it.
That's just how good FF was at the time. I think it's a joke that it's not on this list.
MiamiWesker
Member
At least IGN understands genres unlike GI.
Good list. I'm playing Chrono Trigger now for the first time. Cool so far.
MegaSackman
Member
It seems but, is Bloodborne an RPG? Real question here.
Not in my personal definition (one that I can twist by convenience).
In what order should I prioritize these RPGs?
Vagrant Story
The Witcher 3
Suikoden II
Tactics Ogre
System Shock 2
Bloodborne
Neverwinter Nights
Fire Emblem
Phantasy Star IV
Lufia 2
Neverwinter Nights 2
The Legend of Dragoon
Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga
For reference, these are my personal faves:
Persona 4
Final Fantasy X
Deus Ex
Final Fantasy VIII
Lunar: Silver Star Story
Chrono Cross
Lost Odyssey
Nier
Skies of Arcadia
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Nier Automata
Lunar: Eternal Blue
Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II
Mass Effect
Dragon Age: Origins
Xenoblade Chronicles
Final Fantasy IV
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
Xenogears
Vagrant Story
The Witcher 3
Suikoden II
Tactics Ogre
System Shock 2
Bloodborne
Neverwinter Nights
Fire Emblem
Phantasy Star IV
Lufia 2
Neverwinter Nights 2
The Legend of Dragoon
Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga
For reference, these are my personal faves:
Persona 4
Final Fantasy X
Deus Ex
Final Fantasy VIII
Lunar: Silver Star Story
Chrono Cross
Lost Odyssey
Nier
Skies of Arcadia
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Nier Automata
Lunar: Eternal Blue
Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II
Mass Effect
Dragon Age: Origins
Xenoblade Chronicles
Final Fantasy IV
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
Xenogears
Majmun
Member
Well, when Dark Souls and Demon's Souls are considered RPG's, then Bloodborne can be called one as well.
Suikoden II
Tactics Ogre
Fire Emblem
Vagrant Story
The Witcher 3
System Shock 2
Bloodborne
Lufia 2
Are what I would prioritize. The rest it's up to you but LoD is not a must play by any means but if you're interested give it a shot.
MegaSackman
Member
Those are a little more versatile but yeah, to me Bloodborne is an action adventure game and I'm ok with that, it doesn't make it a lesser game. Is one of the best games I've played, ever.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Don't completely agree with the list but I'll take it, way better than the Game Informer list at least.
BB is probably the least RPG of them all. I hesitate to call it a real one as well.
Suikoden 2 definitely first on to play
Tactics ogre PSP version
Bloodborne
Everything else might have gameplay thats a bit too outdated.
If you like Suikoden 2 -> Lufia 2
If you like Tactics Ogre -> Most recent 3DS Fire Emblems
If you like Bloodborne -> Witcher 3
These are significantly different games so there is no really right answer. Lufia 2 is probably the best classic JRPG in there. TLoD and NWN1 are kinda bad and easily skippable.
veloxStrix
Banned
This single piece of advice has led to countless threads about disappointment with the Witcher 3.
Wow, I thought I was doing good... but now that the list is complete:
38% - Total games on the list I've played
25% - Total games on the list I've finished
Clearly, I have to step my RPG game up!
It would be kind of interesting to have a contest to play through the list, but on the other hand this seems infeasible... even rushing, some of these games are a large number of hours. At one a week (a breakneck pace), it would take two years
I have played 62% of them. I didn't keep track of how many I finished. I probably own 85-90% of them. My backlog is big.
EDIT: I went back and counted. I own 91 of them. Two of my missing titles are Eve Online (zero interest in that one) and Phantasy Star Online (dead). I also don't specifically have Pokemon Yellow.
The Gothic games were not popular in the States. Reviews at the time were decent, but not stellar, and sales were no doubt poor. It wouldn't surprise me if an American console-focused site like IGN lacks people who actually played those games.
The best thing about the original Neverwinter Nights are the custom multiplayer persistent world servers, some of which have been running for over a decade. I personally found the single player very lacking.
Common Knowledge
Member
As someone who's never played a FF game and is just going by what I hear about from the fanbase, I had no idea VI was considered to be such a classic. It got #2 on both IGN's and GI's lists. It's always VII this, VII that with the fanbase, with some VIII and IX sprinkled in (from my inexperienced, outsider point of view). Just find it surprising, is all.