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IGN's Top 100 RPGs of All Time
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These lists are always controversial.
I think #1 will probably be FF VII. I don't disagree with it, but I'd argue others that'd be above it.
Top 10 will be something like: Mass Effect 1 or 2, a spattering of Final Fantasy's (IV, VI, VII, IX?), KOTOR, World of Warcraft, a Tales of ___ game, a CRPG or two (Planescape: Torment, etc.), and another SNES era game like Earthbound or Chrono Trigger
I think #1 will probably be FF VII. I don't disagree with it, but I'd argue others that'd be above it.
Top 10 will be something like: Mass Effect 1 or 2, a spattering of Final Fantasy's (IV, VI, VII, IX?), KOTOR, World of Warcraft, a Tales of ___ game, a CRPG or two (Planescape: Torment, etc.), and another SNES era game like Earthbound or Chrono Trigger
I'd like that but with so many classic "Universal Acclaim" type RPGs it would be highly controversial I imagine.
I see HZD around the middle or a bit lower, probably.
Top 15 will probably be between
Oblivion / Skyrim
Fallout 3/ New Vegas (Fallout 4 would probably entice a riot)
Witcher 3 (probably a top 3, very popular game)
Baldur's Gate 2 / Planescape Torment
Final Fantasy 7
Deus Ex
Mass Effect / ME2
Knights of the Old Republic
Neverwinter Nights
Diablo 3
System Shock 2
Zelda OoT / Botw
World of Warcraft
Persona 3/4
Dragon Age Origins
IGN loves Mass Effect 2, so I expect that in the Top 10. Probably Skyrim as well.
I know people are expecting Final Fantasy VII to be in the top 5, but I don't think that was the case in past IGN lists.
when they last ran the list, #1 was Final Fantasy VI
http://ca.ign.com/lists/rpgs/1
EDIT: Fallout 3 was #10, Mass Effect was #9, WoW was #8, Skyrim was #7, Diablo 2 was #6, Final Fantasy IV was #5, Pokemon Red/Blue was #4, Baldur's Gate 2 was #3, Chrono Trigger was #2.
EDIT 2: Honestly, I have a bigger problem with FF4 than I do some of the CRPGs. That's basically "My Childhood" the game. Pokemon Red/Blue as well, but I can see the Gen 1 Pokemon coloring things.
I know people are expecting Final Fantasy VII to be in the top 5, but I don't think that was the case in past IGN lists.
when they last ran the list, #1 was Final Fantasy VI
http://ca.ign.com/lists/rpgs/1
EDIT: Fallout 3 was #10, Mass Effect was #9, WoW was #8, Skyrim was #7, Diablo 2 was #6, Final Fantasy IV was #5, Pokemon Red/Blue was #4, Baldur's Gate 2 was #3, Chrono Trigger was #2.
EDIT 2: Honestly, I have a bigger problem with FF4 than I do some of the CRPGs. That's basically "My Childhood" the game. Pokemon Red/Blue as well, but I can see the Gen 1 Pokemon coloring things.
Wonder if Pokemon Blue/Red makes it in the top 50. Very significant in terms of history yet it wouldn't surprise me if they are going to be in the 51 and above range.
True. I regret buying this game. I forgot I bought it until you mentioned it. The only thing I remember is that I uninstalled it almost immediately and that the game was dedicated to someone who died during development.
Real guesses for their top 10:
Probably a FF game or 2. FF7 for sure and maybe 10?
There will be Fallout 3 and Skyrim.
There will be Mass Effect (2).
World of Warcraft.
Chrono Trigger will be the only pre 1995 RPG there (Earthbound will not make the top 10).
They will make sure one of the Souls games is there (only one though).
There will probably a Persona game and it will be from the modern era, but will likely be 4 because of how strong the spin offs were in terms of popularity (3 is too early for some of the people and 5 is too new for them to justify it).
Will Bioware get lucky with a pre Mass Effect RPG in the top 10? No.
Will any Nintendo RPG make it into the top 10? No.
And all the Phantasy Star games will probably end up being lower than one might expect. Phantasy Star 4 will be ranked the highest though. Probably followed by Phantasy Star Online.
Undertale sneaks into the top 10.
True. I regret buying this game. I forgot I bought it until you mentioned it. The only thing I remember is that I uninstalled it almost immediately and that the game was dedicated to someone who died during development.
Real guesses for their top 10:
Probably a FF game or 2. FF7 for sure and maybe 10?
There will be Fallout 3 and Skyrim.
There will be Mass Effect (2).
World of Warcraft.
Chrono Trigger will be the only pre 1995 RPG there (Earthbound will not make the top 10).
They will make sure one of the Souls games is there (only one though).
There will probably a Persona game and it will be from the modern era, but will likely be 4 because of how strong the spin offs were in terms of popularity (3 is too early for some of the people and 5 is too new for them to justify it).
Will Bioware get lucky with a pre Mass Effect RPG in the top 10? No.
Will any Nintendo RPG make it into the top 10? No.
And all the Phantasy Star games will probably end up being lower than one might expect. Phantasy Star 4 will be ranked the highest though. Probably followed by Phantasy Star Online.
Undertale sneaks into the top 10.
Abyss would actually be high up on my own list but there just isn't a chance. Vesperia might be mentioned at like 60 or something
johancruijff
Banned
Here's the GAF thread for the last version of this IGN list 5 years ago:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=490858
It lists the entire Top 100, so you don't have to bother giving clicks on the link I provided a couple of posts up.
Mass Effect 2 was much lower than I remembered. I must be conflating the RPG list with one of their 360 lists.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=490858
It lists the entire Top 100, so you don't have to bother giving clicks on the link I provided a couple of posts up.
Mass Effect 2 was much lower than I remembered. I must be conflating the RPG list with one of their 360 lists.
Solid list.
For me...
1. Earthbound
2. Chrono Cross
3. Chrono Trigger
4. Phantasy Star Online
5. Final Fantasy Tactics
6. Ragnarok Online
7. Wild Arms
8. Legend of Dragoon
9. Xenoblade Chronicles X
10. Nier Automata
PSFan
Member
Sounds like someone hasn't been to Zelda's room in the castle, yet.
You'll find out why Link doesn't speak.
BOTW is not an RPG.
That Skyrim is already guaranteed to be over Ultima Underworld is a crime.
Ultima 7 damn well better be in the top five. Can't belivie it's 25th anniversary came and went with no covrage at all.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
A large chunk of Vagrant Story, Breath of Fire V, Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne, Legend of Grimrock 2, and any Trails or Etrian Odyssey games will not be on this list.
Infernostew
Member
If Shadow Hearts Covenant isn't on this list...
1 and 2 are the worst games in their respective series.
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More like Morrowind/Skyrim unless IGN are trolling.
They should just put every Obsidian game on there.
thestopsign
Member
I just hope Lufia II makes it again like last time they made this list. They put it at 87, which worries me that it isn't already up there.
Cert.in.Death
Member
Instadismissal if FFIX isn't #1, which it won't be
sir_bumble_bee
Member
I'd be shocked if it wasn't top 5
hans_castorp
Member
Lol at Dragon Age: Inquisition
InsaneFandom
Member
I'm pleasantly surprised to see DA Inquisition on the list
I know gaf doesn't like it but idgaf it's my second favourite game ever.
Also happy Divinity Original sin is there, fantastic game.
Pretty interesting list so far, not everything there is something I'd expect to see which is cool.
I know gaf doesn't like it but idgaf it's my second favourite game ever.
Also happy Divinity Original sin is there, fantastic game.
Pretty interesting list so far, not everything there is something I'd expect to see which is cool.
MiamiWesker
Member
Zelda is NOT an RPG and never will be. It's a ridiculous argument to make. If Zelda is an rpg then everything is an rpg. We need better definitions.
Have you ever played Zelda 2?
MiamiWesker
Member
The only one you can slightly make the argument of, even still it's basically a side scrolling action game. Unless you consider all Iga Castlevania games to be RPGS to, which they are not.
Seriously. Glad it's on the list but WTF!?
QuantumZebra
Member
EverQuest behind those? Hell, EverQuest not in the top 10?
Divinity not in the top 50 and BEHIND Dragon Age: Inquisition?
Let me guess the rest:
FFVI will be the highest rated FF (IX and VII were better), System Shock 2 won't be on the list because fuck it, Deus Ex will *at best* be in the top 20, Baldur's Gate 2 will be somewhere in the 40's, and Ocarina of Time will be #1.
DecoReturns
Member
They won't put Ocarina.
Those Zelda games are considered Action Adventure (even Nintendo markets them as Action Adventure), doubt they'll change their minds now.
It won't be. Prepare to see FFXV though..
on some random internet guy's list, but still 
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
Banned
Final Fantasy 1 is better than every other game in the series, so I fully expect to not see other entries higher on the list.
poodaddy
Member
This is probably what to expect and honestly I'm fine with it. The only changes I'd make is replace BOTW with Chrono Trigger and FF7 with Planescape Torment. Oh and Mass Effect 1 is a better RPG than 2, but 2 does play better.
Edit: Why do people get so mad in these threads though? I mean it's just opinions and everyone acts like there's some objective certification of RPG quality when it just boils down to whether someone dug it or not. If you don't like this list then find another meaningless list of opinions on the internet that ya do like.
YankeeDonB
Member
Huh, don't think DA:I or KH2 belong on there, though I know both have many fans.
After some serious consideration, I think this would be my top 10:
10. Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
9. Persona 4
8. Nier: Automata
7. Final Fantasy VII
6. Chrono Trigger
5. Secret of Mana (SD2)
4. Suikoden 5
3. Suikoden 3
2. Witcher 3
1. Final Fantasy VI
Arc the lad may seem an odd duck here, but I really loved the narrative framing and pacing, and the battle system is my favorite lite-tactics system in any game.
I like Suikoden II an awful lot too, but 3 and 5 have eclipsed it in recent years. If there's no Suikoden title on the IGN 100 I riot!
Perhaps most striking to me making this list, is that I had to really ruminate on Witcher 3 v FF VI. I think FF VI has one of the best executed narratives in games, but Witcher 3 is neck and neck (and obviously much more richly and better written). If I didn't have so much nostalgia for VI I'd probably give the nod to W3, but hard for me to say.
After some serious consideration, I think this would be my top 10:
10. Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
9. Persona 4
8. Nier: Automata
7. Final Fantasy VII
6. Chrono Trigger
5. Secret of Mana (SD2)
4. Suikoden 5
3. Suikoden 3
2. Witcher 3
1. Final Fantasy VI
Arc the lad may seem an odd duck here, but I really loved the narrative framing and pacing, and the battle system is my favorite lite-tactics system in any game.
I like Suikoden II an awful lot too, but 3 and 5 have eclipsed it in recent years. If there's no Suikoden title on the IGN 100 I riot!
Perhaps most striking to me making this list, is that I had to really ruminate on Witcher 3 v FF VI. I think FF VI has one of the best executed narratives in games, but Witcher 3 is neck and neck (and obviously much more richly and better written). If I didn't have so much nostalgia for VI I'd probably give the nod to W3, but hard for me to say.
QuantumZebra
Member
If any Zelda is there it's still gonna be OoT ... the jock-riding for that game is eternal.
All top 100 lists are also required to not put FFVII as the highest FF game because it is the most popular and that wouldn't be the hipster thing to do. But Ocarina somehow is exempt there.
I'm also flabberghasted at people putting Witcher 3 in the top 10... I *still* cannot force myself to beat that game. I have beaten System Shock 2 (again), Uncharted 4, Titanfall 2, Dishonored, and am about to beat Horizon Zero Dawn in the time I've had it.
I feel like I'm the only person alive that finds the gameplay god-awful and the game itself tear-jerkingly boring. Dragon Age: Inquisition kept me more interested.
It's all clickbait. I'm guessing they will omit quite a few classics and throw in more recent games just so people know what they are.
I would bet $100 that at least 2 of KOTOR 2, Fallout: NV, Alpha Protocol (all Obsidian games), probably a Suikoden or two, some FFs, etc... will be left out.
DecoReturns
Member
Paper Mario is top 10 material.
I'll settle for top 25
I'll settle for top 25
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Nintendo have always considered Zelda rpgs, they label them as rpgs in their eshop
Japanmanx3
Member
KHII that low? What??? And I'm sure they won't even mention Legend of Legaia smh...
It would be perfectly reasonable if they put FFVII in 6th place
Behind the 5 better Final Fantasy games
DecoReturns
Member
In Japan they label them as Action Adventure. on mobile so I can't bring up the thread where it was mentioned.
The eshop isn't really saying much. It's just makes it easier to sort, but it's always Action adventure first.
Who knows tho, but I rarely see people consider the early Zelda games RPG other then the first 2 and BOTW