Inconvenient truth: Xbox is saving gaming right now Do you agree?

GHG said:
I don't understand this.

Do you only play games published by Microsoft or Sony?
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I have said my peace, no longer trying to justify how I feel about certain gaming companies and what platform I decide to play on in a given evening

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HeisenbergFX4 said:
I have said my peace, no longer trying to justify how I feel about certain gaming companies and what platform I decide to play on in a given evening

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I'll take that as a "yes" then if you wish?

In which case I'd tell you to broaden your horizons, because no single company in particular is "saving" any industry, particularly not one as big and as varied as this one.

Besides, I wouldn't even say anything needs "saving". I'm enjoying what I play on the platforms I engage with. If the feeling amongst the people who predominantly (or exclusively) play on Xbox consoles is that things are broken or need "saving", then that in itself speaks volumes and their market position is a direct reflection of that.
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
I have said my peace, no longer trying to justify how I feel about certain gaming companies and what platform I decide to play on in a given evening

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I was just curious about the "way better games" comment. Your preferred platform, is your preferred platform.
 
GHG said:
I'll take that as a "yes" then if you wish?

In which case I'd tell you to broaden your horizons, because no single company in particular is "saving" any industry, particularly not one as big and as varied as this one.

Besides, I wouldn't even say anything needs "saving". I'm enjoying what I play on the platforms I engage with. If the feeling amongst the people who predominantly (or exclusively) play on Xbox consoles is that things are broken or need "saving", then that in itself speaks volumes and their market position is a direct reflection of that.
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Plus, nobody is trying to change their mind on what platform to support. Microsoft management, is doing that all by themselves.
 
I just seen on Twitter that PS5 is doing shit and Series X is flying off shelves. And now this? I don't know what to believe anymore.

Why won't they share their drugs with the rest of us?
 
Nope. Third parties like Capcom and From Software showing everyone how its done and basically carrying the industry.

Sony and MS can eat shit after this gen. Only excited for Astrobot, and maybe the next Naughty Dog game but thats about it.
 
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HeisenbergFX4 said:
I have said my peace, no longer trying to justify how I feel about certain gaming companies and what platform I decide to play on in a given evening

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Whatever you've heard coming next, you believe that Microsoft will finally conquer gaming?
 
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GHG said:
I don't understand this.

Do you only play games published by Microsoft or Sony?
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Lets not go that route.
Sony is shit this gen. I miss the Sony of late ps3 gen and early ps4. Bangers after bangers.
Now they are whoring themselves with live service games and boring games.
 
I hope we get a good show on Sunday and hope we see some great games, but just do not get this notion that somehow the fate of gaming is at stake here. It's just a showcase. This is taking the "wait for E3" narrative to insane levels. Time to pump the brakes.
 
feynoob said:
Lets not go that route.
Sony is shit this gen. I miss the Sony of late ps3 gen and early ps4. Bangers after bangers.
Now they are whoring themselves with live service games and boring games.
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Which games would those be? Early ps4 was barren for years

Late Gen is always pretty great, it will be for ps5 too
 
Topher said:
I hope we get a good show on Sunday and hope we see some great games, but just do not get this notion that somehow the fate of gaming is at stake here. It's just a showcase. This is taking the "wait for E3" narrative to insane levels. Time to pump the brakes.
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Surprisingly Phil has stopped the "greatest games showcase ever" rhetoric this year…
 
GHG said:
I'll take that as a "yes" then if you wish?

In which case I'd tell you to broaden your horizons, because no single company in particular is "saving" any industry, particularly not one as big and as varied as this one.

Besides, I wouldn't even say anything needs "saving". I'm enjoying what I play on the platforms I engage with. If the feeling amongst the people who predominantly (or exclusively) play on Xbox consoles is that things are broken or need "saving", then that in itself speaks volumes and their market position is a direct reflection of that.
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The company that brought you Redfall, Starfield, and hellblade 2 is supposedly saving gaming….

I've heard it all

They need to save themselves first. Yeesh
 
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James Sawyer Ford said:
Nope.
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WHat game do you think is better than bloodborne?
Sleepy ragnorak? Bloated man 2? a remake? Whatever the hell is dinasour robots?

Sorry man, Sony this gen is lacking. Only real fun game is a live service called HD2 and Miles morales.

mayham2199 said:
Jesus are you even a gamer? I don't understand how people like you even enjoy the hobby anymore.
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I am just a salty gamer.
 
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feynoob said:
Lets not go that route.
Sony is shit this gen. I miss the Sony of late ps3 gen and early ps4. Bangers after bangers.
Now they are whoring themselves with live service games and boring games.
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If the games that they've brought out which aren't live service games are "boring" then I want more of those "boring" games.

This "xbox isn't doing well so nobody else can be" shit along with the "I'm not having fun so nobody else can be" shit is getting boring now.

Most rational people can acknowledge Sony could be doing better in certain areas this gen (along with the fact that the live service push doesn't speak to the audience that have been with them for many a generation), but Xbox have been nothing short of a disaster going on 2 generations in a row, and even their recent spending spree doesn't seem to be fixing that.

So instead of deluding yourselves into thinking Xbox is "saving" gaming and/or that Sony are doing equally as bad a job, why not *shock* ask them to get their shit together and actually start delivering on their promises and faux hype thing that they've had going on for well over a decade now?
 
Which page of the Microsoft playbook is this dribble from?

The truth is XBOX overstayed it's welcome and any positive energy the brand created, is pretty much negative gain. Now your left with Microsoft, which most people seem to dislike, including windows and the company in general. It's time to move over and let someone else take a crack, or let Sony and Nintendo duke it out for a while.

Any good will has been destroyed.
 
Inconvenient truth: The only things MS did for this industry was ruin brands like Halo (that wasn't even created for them or by them), multiple studios (Rare took 20 years to release a worthy IP, lmao), introduced paid online, exclusive DLCs to games back on the 360 era to consoles that Sony then applied for the next gen and Nintendo more currently, devalued gaming with Gamepass and their own platform, and ultimately ruined their own console's value. Plus they were the ones firing the most people in all industry due to their brainless acquisition plan. I'm sure all those people feel saved as well at the moment.

We can count with one hand the amount of studios MS actually created that are currently thriving. They bought Bethesda and are yet to have a good game released, plus closed one of the studios that actually gave them a successful Gamepass release. Bought Activision to fire people from multiple studios and turned studios like Toys for Bob shells of their former selves (studios that were handling IPs like Crash Bandicoot). Basically 70 billion spent for Call of Duty. IPs like Forza Motorsport, Halo (as mentioned before), Gears of War, Hellblade II, Red Fall, Starfield, everything is failing so hard they had to start releasing their games in more places like PS5, since their own platform and freaking PC wasn't enough to cover their sales expectations...that are failing BECAUSE of their own Gamepass service.

MS is a company with a lot of money from other areas that can be used in gaming. They aren't saving gaming right now, they can't even save themselves (Xbox). They are yet to buy a studio or publisher and turn it into a better/bigger thing than they were before getting acquired.

MS is not even saving Gamepass, the one thing they created that was supposed to be their saving grace. They had to create a business model Sony couldn't compete and it ended up ruining them. Even something like Cloud Gaming has been surpassed by their competition and XCloud's investment decreased like hell for the next fiscal year so that's not changing anytime soon.

They start a plan and can't carry them until the end. They don't know what to do. They are aimless, hopeless for a reason to exist and to prove their shareholders they aren't one of the businesses dragging MS down. Their own president clearly intervened recently, that's why the sudden shift in strategy.

How's this for inconvenient truth?
 
GHG said:
If the games that they've brought out which aren't live service games are "boring" then I want more of those "boring" games.

This "xbox isn't doing well so nobody else can be" shit along with the "I'm not having fun so nobody else can be" shit is getting boring now.

Most rational people can acknowledge Sony could be doing better in certain areas this gen (along with the fact that the live service push doesn't speak to the audience that have been with them for many a generation), but Xbox have been nothing short of a disaster going on 2 generations in a row, and even their recent spending spree doesn't seem to be fixing that.

So instead of deluding yourselves into thinking Xbox is "saving" gaming and/or that Sony are doing equally as bad a job, why not *shock* ask them to get their shit together and actually start delivering on their promises and faux hype thing that they've had going on for well over a decade now?
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We arent talking Xbox here, but old gen Sony.

Xbox cant even save bethesda who made skyrim. I wish to burn starfield.
 
feynoob said:
WHat game do you think is better than bloodborne?
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It's not about being better than it, but I'll take the following games collectively over just 1

Demons Souls
Miles Morales
Returnal
Ratchet
Kena
Sifu
Stray
Horizon FW
God of War Ragnarok
Final Fantasy XVI
Spider-Man 2
Helldivers 2
Final fantasy 7 Rebirth
Stellar Blade

Over the collective ps4 lineup three years in.

PS5's early Gen lineup is only rivaled by PS2
 
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James Sawyer Ford said:
It's not about being better than it, but I'll take the following games collectively over just 1

Demons Souls
Miles Morales
Returnal
Ratchet
Kena
Sifu
Stray
Horizon FW
God of War Ragnarok
Final Fantasy XVI
Spider-Man 2
Helldivers 2
Final fantasy 7 Rebirth
Stellar Blade

Over the collective ps4 lineup three years in
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My friend. you can have list of output as much as you want to. But it wont match the fun of those old games which Sony used to make.

I am still salty here that I cant play infamous, because its locked on ps3.
 
feynoob said:
My friend. you can have list of output as much as you want to. But it wont match the fun of those old games which Sony used to make.

I am still salty here that I cant play infamous, because its locked on ps3.
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You listed a single game

I listed tons of games that are just as fun if not more than late ps3/early ps4
 
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feynoob said:
Very simple.
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Which again makes no sense.

Early PS4 was quite barren and the PS3 era didn't gather any steam until the last couple of years.

People saying they want them to go back to the times when they were at their weakest in terms of output is transparent as fuck.
 
GHG said:
Which again makes no sense.

Early PS4 was quite barren and the PS3 era didn't gather any steam until the last couple of years.

People saying they want them to go back to the times when they were at their weakest in terms of output is transparent as fuck.
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In term of output, this gen wins because they have too many studios.

In term of the actual good games? Those games are much better. Because they are games. And they did their jobs.
 
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