You're seriously trying to argue Temple of Doom is better?
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Indiana Jones 5 for July 19th, 2019 with Spielberg and Harrison Ford
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You're seriously trying to argue Temple of Doom is better?
Melon Husk
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I'm warming up to the idea of a haunted scottish castle... Since Indiana Jones is now owned by Disney Spielberg can shamelessly steal the best ideas from the donald duck stories (Son of the Sun God, Manco Cápac comes to mind, etc...).
He needs that beard though, but otherwise still looking good 20 years older.
That Frank Darabont bit makes me weep.
I want all the money.
He needs that beard though, but otherwise still looking good 20 years older.
That Frank Darabont bit makes me weep.
Yeah and that's basically the only positive/inspiring thing you could say about this project....
Still doesn't take away the fact that Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was awful and mismanaged by Spielberg at the helm. If Spielberg and Ford couldn't make it right in 2008, I'm having a hard time seeing how they can do any better in 2019.
Demoncarnotaur
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Well no, I mean show old Indiana Jones (Harrison Ford) and young Indiana Jones (new actor) in the same movie, easing the transition. Ans not replacing the character, just the actor in a more natural way.
But hey, Daisy Ridley for Indiana Jones?
Agreed.. they're gonna have to absolutely nail the casting, but if they do, this will be the way to hand it over and explain his new appearance.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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The other distinction is that Bond is THE basis of a major film archetype. Being the basal form of an archetype lends a lot to alternative takes on the character. Jones is a very specific beast, a love letter to classic serial stars, with a dash of Bond, that is born of Ford's performance, Lucas's writing, and Spielberg's direction. It's not a character open to interpretation and whatnot, because the character already effectively IS an interpretation, and a very specific one at that.
Lots of people? No one here can be clueless enough to think this won't make hundreds of millions of dollars, right?
Calm waterfall
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I thought they set up the last movie to let Shia take over as the new Indy. 75 year old Indy is very unappealing.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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That I don't know, but if I had to guess, 5 was probably more arbitrary than anything. Considering it took them like two decades to all agree on a plot for 4, I doubt they had any specific stories arced out for all 5. They might have pieces of something laying around that will form the basis of this though, who knows.
I'm not sure where he got that from. I've never seen any mention of 5 films. There's little indication that the principles ever thought beyond the movie they were in the process of making. Temple of Doom is just everything cut from Raiders, and everyone had such a bad time making it that Indy 3 didn't get going for awhile. The original pitch for Indy 3 was a Indy in a haunted Scottish castle, then Indy in the Far East. None of Lucas, Ford, or Spielberg had any plans for a fourth film until Harrison's cameo on Young Indiana Jones.
I'm warming up to the idea of a haunted scottish castle.
He needs that beard though, but otherwise still looking good 20 years older.
That Frank Darabont bit makes me weep.
I've read that Darabont script. Lucas made the right call. It's not very good.
ryutaro's mama
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Indiana Jones and the Fountain Of Youth
This is how they can hit the reset button.
This is how they can hit the reset button.
Not nearly as much as the idea of Shia taking over the new Indy. Shia's awfulness should just be forgotten and not even mentioned in the new Indy.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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The original deal with Paramount was for 5 films, and Lucas had planned on honoring that deal. I believe I first heard it one of the official making-of pieces for Jones or possibly even Star Wars down the line, but I checked and it's on the Wiki page for the franchise complete with citation (it's a book, so I can't link it obviously). Like I said in my other post, as far as I can tell, no, there wasn't ever any stories arced out for a full series, and yeah, it was done one film at a time. 4 took ages to happen because Spielberg, Lucas, and Ford couldn't agree on a story for it. Lucas ended up coming up with the idea while doing Young Indie, but it took Ford and Spielberg quite a while to warm up to doing a 50's sci-fi (IIRC Spielberg was begging not to do aliens, er, interdimensional beings, pretty late into pre-pro).
Gnome Scat
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Just get a new Indy already.
I'm interested as long as they write a bloody good script and Spielberg knows the difference between good and shit.
No problem with Ford, amazing for his age but I'm guessing this won't quite be Indy of old. Whatever side kick. please don't be god awful.
I do wonder if this will be passing the torch towards a Bond like Indy franchise.
No problem with Ford, amazing for his age but I'm guessing this won't quite be Indy of old. Whatever side kick. please don't be god awful.
I do wonder if this will be passing the torch towards a Bond like Indy franchise.
BigWeather
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Me too, I got your back. Come at us!
It is what I'd have expected of a 50s Indiana Jones -- Soviets, aliens, etc. Just hated the vine swinging and double-no-triple-no-wait-quadruple backstabbing "plot".
brandonh83
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I mean they could do that, and I know what you're saying, but I'm talking about the actual title of the series. The new character would literally need to be called Indiana Jones if the sixth movie is about that new character and they still need to call it Indiana Jones so that people will know what it is and continuing.
Shalashaska
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Day 0 for me.
AquaWateria
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So whats the general consensus of the best Indiana Jones movie?
For me it's really hard to choose between Last Crusade and Raiders of the Last Arc.
For me it's really hard to choose between Last Crusade and Raiders of the Last Arc.
Agreed. Outside of a few completely horrible scenes (Nuke explosion, Ants/Swordfight/Monkeys/Tree-Into-River), I actually found the movie quite enjoyable. As he ages, I feel these films need to slow things down and not try to go overboard with CGI and set pieces.
AquaWateria
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brandonh83
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I love Last Crusade, but Raiders is just... you know it's not just the best Indiana Jones movie, it's one of the best movies ever made. Last Crusade is a great movie in general if you ask me, but Raiders felt original, such a tight and flawless script, impeccable direction, iconic from head to toe.
digita1alchemy
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I'm all for this, but I enjoyed Crystal Skull more than most.
"Indy Anna" Jones!
Violence Jack
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Ford is going to kill off Indy in grand fashion.
Last Crusade is great and good fun but Raiders is just top tier.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I'm telling you guys, Spielberg just has to go the Tintin route with this and use the Tintin/Avatar performance capture tech to give us a young Harrison Ford.
Tintin was the real Inidiana Jones 4.
Tintin was the real Inidiana Jones 4.
No need to choose between them. The answer is Temple of Doom easily.
Okay, so they won't go near Aliens again. Maybe they even want to distance themselves from the last movie so far, that soviets are out of the picture too. Not to talk about Mutt...
When they try the Star Wars formula, they'll go back to what worked best in the past. So a biblical McGuffin and Nazis. And to make it work, maybe they'll set it in South America?
When they try the Star Wars formula, they'll go back to what worked best in the past. So a biblical McGuffin and Nazis. And to make it work, maybe they'll set it in South America?
Dash_Riprock
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Demoncarnotaur
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No no, not a new character. A new actor playing the same character. Just in the same film as Harrison Ford, where you metaphorically have him pass the torch to his younger self (only played by someone else).
No new title needed.
Secret Tomb Raider reboot/crossover?What about Indiana Jones and his side kick played by Daisy Ridley?
That would be great. Forget the male lead replacing Ford who probably can't be replaced easily for Indie.
brandonh83
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Demoncarnotaur
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Ehhh... a bit too much IMO
Unless they make a younger Indy via CG/mo-cap, I am almost certain this will be the route they go. Assuming they want sequels.
Perhaps they want tie up the story in a way that doesn't allow for sequels as easily, and if that's the case it'll just be Ford.
BocoDragon
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So this will come out 11 years after Crystal Skull. This makes it... The 60s?
I'm thinking its Indiana Jones does LSD in India with The Beatles.
I'm thinking its Indiana Jones does LSD in India with The Beatles.
Brainfreeze
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That would be a hell of a way to retire, going out with a bang. I'd respect the hell out of him if he pulled that off.
What about Indiana Jones and his side kick played by Daisy Ridley?
That would be great. Forget the male lead replacing Ford who probably can't be replaced easily for Indie.
That would actually be really great. It doesn't have to be Daisy, but a young daughter could be a new dynamic for the womanizer in Indy 5 and be a breath of fresh air for action movies if she replaced him going forward. Not to mention it would probably help avoid some of the obvious criticisms about the replacement not living up to Ford if it's clear they're going in a different direction.
I really don't get the Fridge hate, even after all these years. It was a play on the idea of the time that lead-lines fridges would keep you safe from nukes. I thought it was cute and funny. It really wasn't that tonally different than past Jones movies.
Jeep scene was a little over the top though. Still not enough to ruin the movie for me.
I would be really disappointed if they do that. I though Crystal Skull was cool largely because it brought the series into a new era, with all that entailed. Temple of Doom already showed that Indy is allowed to deviate from the initial formula, so I'm not sure why people are so adamant about sticking to that.
Indy was initially a love letter to a specific type of entertainment from the decade it took place in. As time goes on, it really just makes sense for the franchise to move into new eras and idols. It's sort of defined the potential for this series to continue for me. We don't need an older, slower Lara Croft/ Nathan Drake on screen, and swastikas on the enemy's sleeves doesn't somehow make it unique. It plays to their strength to do something new, IMO.
QuicheFontaine
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Oh....well, I'm saying it shouldn't exist. I thought we were on the same page.
Discotheque
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i don't have to try. that's an easy argument.
DangerMouse
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Same. I'm in to see it.
Bobby Roberts
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Wasn't there a mockup somewhere of Anna Kendrick as Indiana Jones' kid?
BocoDragon
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They jump out of an airplane in a frigging life-raft in ToD!
If only the internet had existed back then to complain about it and make it a meme...
QuicheFontaine
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That's way more plausible though. Myth busters actually tested it on their show, and found that it would be possible to survive.
A daughter could provide an interesting dynamic for Indy 5, but I dunno about replacing him. Let's be honest, Indiana Jones is the quintessential male power fantasy. That's the whole point of the franchise.
Oh, I was pretty sure you were making a sarcastic comment with the "ugh" and all
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