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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It has path tracing and ray reconstruction.
NVIDIA DLSS 3.5 & Full Ray Tracing Coming to Indiana Jones and the Great Circle™
Experience a new level of cinematic immersion in Indiana Jones and the Great Circle™ thanks to full ray tracing and NVIDIA DLSS 3.5 with Ray Reconstruction.
bethesda.net
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Mr Moose
Gold Member
What does that mean?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No idea, maybe when the article was written they weren't sure it would be ready at launch, but they've listed it in the launch specs, so ... let's see.
kevboard
Member
then isn't it impressive how a 2060 Super can run a game with RT enabled at native 1080p 60fps?
so still, these requirements seem fine to me. if the second worst RTX card on the market (ergo for all intends and purposes a low end GPU) can run a modern AAA game at 1080p 60fps with raytracing effects, I feel that's pretty good
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Mr Moose
Gold Member
3050:then isn't it impressive how a 2060 Super can run a game with RT enabled at native 1080p 60fps?
so still, these requirements seem fine to me. if the second worst RTX card on the market (ergo for all intends and purposes a low end GPU) can run a modern AAA game at 1080p 60fps with raytracing effects, I feel that's pretty good
Topher
Identifies as young
then isn't it impressive how a 2060 Super can run a game with RT enabled at native 1080p 60fps?
so still, these requirements seem fine to me. if the second worst RTX card on the market (ergo for all intends and purposes a low end GPU) can run a modern AAA game at 1080p 60fps with raytracing effects, I feel that's pretty good
Wouldn't say it is impressive. More work is being done by the CPU at 1080p. I don't think the requirement are really that outlandish either since it requires RT. Just shouldn't require RT, imo.
kevboard
Member
3050:
ok, but the 3050 isn't universally worse than the 2060S I think. it probably has an edge in RT performance due to more modern RT hardware.
depends on how RT is used here. the question is why does it need RT enabled in all modes?
if it's the same dumb reason as Silent Hill 2, so for GI, then yeah, there should be a non-RT fallback. but for all we know it could be that the required RT effect is reflections, and it could be required due to gameplay elements needing it. maybe some stealth sequences are designed around seeing enemies in reflections, or maybe some light related puzzles being designed around reflective surfaces that need accurate reflections to work properly.
in the end, of course even gameplay mechanics based on reflections could probably work by using render to texture in 90% of cases.
but I think we simply are entering the era of raytracing now. UE5 for better or worse is absolutely being prepped for RT being the default, Spider-Man 2 had no mode without RT, and Ubisoft also seems to be all in on RT now.
Mr Moose
Gold Member
It's worse than a 2060. It wishes it could be a 2060 Super.
Topher
Identifies as young
I feel like if they had RT dependent gameplay elements then they would have shown some of that by now, but yeah.....we will just have to wait and see what is in the game that made RT mandatory.
kevboard
Member
there's no way it's worse than the 2060... the worst I've seen it is being between the two
Mr Moose
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kevboard
Member
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
On CPU side, yes. Also probably in hands of ID Soft, not some Swedes
LectureMaster
Gold Member
No Denuvo in final version.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Nvidia game ready drivers for PC are out.
Bojji
Member
Wukong had software lumen fall back, this game have to use hardware RT.
It's like Metro EE, no standard raster lighting solution.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Heads up, looks like Path Tracing will be added to the PC version with a day 1 patch on Dec 8th/9th, it is not in the early release version of the game.
Mr Moose
I guess this is what they meant with the subject to availability *
Mr Moose
I guess this is what they meant with the subject to availability *
Indiana Jones and the Great Circle™ & Marvel Rivals GeForce Game Ready Driver Released
Our newest GeForce Game Ready Driver is also optimized for Delta Force, Forza Motorsport’s ray tracing update, Path of Exile 2, and Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2’s DLSS 3 Frame Generation update.
www.nvidia.com
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Unknown Soldier
Member
Why would anyone even buy early access for a game pass title LMAO
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Is it Steam Deck approved?
XXL
Member
That's ridiculous.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Because they don't have to pay for the game?
Astray
Member
Same reason they would for full purchases.. FOMO and avoiding spoilers.
kevboard
Member
so anyone still thinking the game needs monster Specs to run well,
here I tested it real quick on my PC,
RTX 3060ti, Ryzen 5600X, 1440p, DLSS Quality Mode (looks better than native TAA), High preset (no adjustments from the preset)
basically the most generic PC specs you can have, and you get 60+fps easily (FPS counter on the top right)
as always, Screen Space Reflections look like complete ass of course (you can turn them off by setting reflections to low, and soon with the update you can hopefully replace them with RT reflections as well)
so honestly, setting reflections to low to remove them is not only a net positive for the look of the game, but also will increase performance in parts by like 5%
and also keep in mind that I am recording this, which also will reduce performance by a handful of percent.
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just to showcase DLSS.
this is me strafing to the left. this spot has some distant trees and some metal bars in a window, which means distant and near parallaxing and disocclusion behind the bars and behind Indy's arm.
subjectively in motion the only real difference I see is that DLSS has slightly less shimmering around objects in motion. other than that the only difference you'll notice is how your performance jumps by 20 fps lol.
but in this example, look closely between the metal bars in that window. you will see that native TAA has way more obvious ghosting of these metal bars inbetween them, while DLSS still has some ghosting too but way less noticeable.
also the leaves on the top of the screen have noticeable ghosting with native TAA, while DLSS has essentially none.
so once again DLSS Quality mode provides a 20% performance boost while improving image quality at the same time. literally free performance.
here I tested it real quick on my PC,
RTX 3060ti, Ryzen 5600X, 1440p, DLSS Quality Mode (looks better than native TAA), High preset (no adjustments from the preset)
basically the most generic PC specs you can have, and you get 60+fps easily (FPS counter on the top right)
as always, Screen Space Reflections look like complete ass of course (you can turn them off by setting reflections to low, and soon with the update you can hopefully replace them with RT reflections as well)
so honestly, setting reflections to low to remove them is not only a net positive for the look of the game, but also will increase performance in parts by like 5%
and also keep in mind that I am recording this, which also will reduce performance by a handful of percent.
edit:
just to showcase DLSS.
this is me strafing to the left. this spot has some distant trees and some metal bars in a window, which means distant and near parallaxing and disocclusion behind the bars and behind Indy's arm.
subjectively in motion the only real difference I see is that DLSS has slightly less shimmering around objects in motion. other than that the only difference you'll notice is how your performance jumps by 20 fps lol.
but in this example, look closely between the metal bars in that window. you will see that native TAA has way more obvious ghosting of these metal bars inbetween them, while DLSS still has some ghosting too but way less noticeable.
also the leaves on the top of the screen have noticeable ghosting with native TAA, while DLSS has essentially none.
so once again DLSS Quality mode provides a 20% performance boost while improving image quality at the same time. literally free performance.
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SRTtoZ
Member
Why is the game constantly hitching for me? I seem to get rid of it by toggling frame gen off/on but then it still happens during cutscenes. Also the shadows look HORRENDOUS no matter the quality. Like seriously PS3 console era shadows.
edit: oh shit let me get the new nvidia drivers. whoopsie.
edit: oh shit let me get the new nvidia drivers. whoopsie.
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Mister Wolf
Member
GTX not supported
Good.
digital_ghost
Member
Microsoft in Cahoots with Nvidia to sell more GPUs by requiring crazy specs.
So reviews and benchmarks were done without ray tracing? Fucking LMAO.
Gonzito
Gold Member
Man....
Astray
Member
The shadow cascades are too distracting for me and the shadows are also really pixelated and low res at times.
Basically like Wu-Kong shadows without PT, guess it's gonna be the same here.
DanielG165
Member
Sounds like me lol. I’m criminal for not checking my drivers first before diving into a brand new game.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
No, the game has RTGI. That’s why GTX cards aren’t supported. Benchmarks were done without the full ray tracing suite, presumably path tracing.
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