BaneIsPain
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It seems it had a good start with the critics. hehe
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Indiana Jones & The Dial of Destiny
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Happosai
Hold onto your panties
And they will. Surprised we didn't get a CG faceswap of young Ford as a cameo. They can't even leave dead actors be.
I doubt you'll have Indy fighting the cause. But these costars...just wait. Has Disney ever not done this?
FunkMiller
Member
Not exactly a good start on RT for this one... Only eight review though, so still time for all the shills honest reviewers to get the score up.
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FunkMiller
Member
Empire review:
This is it now, isn't it? Every film must be analysed through the prism of identity politics. Every review must go out of its way to criticise something that nobody outside an intellectual, left wing bubble could care less about.
And apparently the movie's climax makes the one at the end of Crystal Skull feel subtle...
A film that Empire gave four stars to, as well.
This is it now, isn't it? Every film must be analysed through the prism of identity politics. Every review must go out of its way to criticise something that nobody outside an intellectual, left wing bubble could care less about.
And apparently the movie's climax makes the one at the end of Crystal Skull feel subtle...
A film that Empire gave four stars to, as well.
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Aurelius
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They gave Crystal Skull 4 stars too. And that quote about John Rys-Davies is pathetic. But I guess they are totally depending on Disney for early access, so they cannot afford to upset the Mouse too much.
Werewolf Jones
Member
I'll watch this movie on D+ in 4 months.
FunkMiller
Member
From the bulk of the reviews out so far, it seems that this movie is everything I thought it would be: safe, boring, and lifeless - with some terrible CGI, a by-the-numbers plot, and absolutely zero creative flair or any chances being taken.
Thanks Disney.
Truly.
I feel sad for anyone who got their hopes up for this film. But Disney has a formula, and it was wrong to think this would turn out any different.
Thanks Disney.
Truly.
I feel sad for anyone who got their hopes up for this film. But Disney has a formula, and it was wrong to think this would turn out any different.
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I was googling earlier and this popped up:
'Indiana Jones' Has Aged Terribly
The world’s most famous fictional archaeologist's legacy feels as dusty as his antiquities.
www.vice.com
Thousands of words to inform us that a character set almost 100 years ago fails to meet the moral standards of the modern era. That's the point...
Listen to these morons at your own peril if you're trying to do anything creative. The only way to please them is by completely sanitizing any humanity from your work.
negator2vc
Member
What happened to our "beloved" 
critics.
Disney isn't paying them anymore for "good" reviews?
critics.Disney isn't paying them anymore for "good" reviews?
bitbydeath
Gold Member
The morally bankrupt sell out to whomever is the loudest because they know that’ll get them more clicks and be talked about.
FunkMiller
Member
I was googling earlier and this popped up:
'Indiana Jones' Has Aged Terribly
The world’s most famous fictional archaeologist's legacy feels as dusty as his antiquities.
Thousands of words to inform us that a character set almost 100 years ago fails to meet the moral standards of the modern era. That's the point...
Listen to these morons at your own peril if you're trying to do anything creative. The only way to please them is by completely sanitizing any humanity from your work.
The current political climate is absolutely the death of creativity... and Disney are permanently targeting the audience responsible for it. Nothing original, exciting or different can be tried, because it might offend someone with a few thousand Twitter followers.
I'm hoping and praying they get punished for this approach, as they are pandering to a very small, authoritarian minority. The problem is, most of them are part of that minority. And the rest of us have to put up with safe, non-threatening garbage. Or, in my case, not put up with it, because Disney ain't getting another penny of my money.
Melon Husk
Member
I hope they're showing the scraps of the editing floor and this is a deleted scene.
Revolutionary
Member
*yawns in French*
Daneel Elijah
Member
People were happy for Ford. Not for the film.
PanzerAzel
Member
Christ.
digoutyoursoul
Member
The series should of ended with The Last Crusade imho.
Ulysses 31
Member
If the rumors are true, they significantly cut down Phoebe's talking down to Indy in the final cut coz test audiences didn't like her.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
So...i guess this IP will forever be a trilogy for me.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
It did.
See, stuff like that is acceptable, Ford (and by extension, Indy) IS an old fogie out of time. It's natural for his values to clash with some 30-something.If the rumors are true, they significantly cut down Phoebe's talking down to Indy in the final cut coz test audiences didn't like her.
HOWEVER, in an INDY film, he should never STAY the butt of the joke. His "old ways" need to be proven correct, her "new fangled feminist cynicism" or whatever has to come up short at the end, and there needs to be a give and take if thats the route they want to go. This is the key part modern writers always seem to forget, you CAN dog the establishment, but if you want "the establishment" to show up and give you money, you gotta respect them in equal measure.
An edgy indie film can get away with being completely rebellious and surly because the audience for that project is never gonna be more than 5% of the audience until, in time, it becomes the mainstream (or not).
I was 100% behind seeing this film with my kid. He is ambivalent on it but we rode the Indy ride at Disneyland together and he has seen parts of the previous Indy films and I suspect this film, much like Crystal Skull, is more child friendly than the first 3. I'm starting to have second thoughts though, if this film is actually mediocre (and I would put KotCS above mediocre but a distinct drop from the others) then maybe I will skip an Indy film in the theater for the first time possible (I was too young for Raiders, but caught Temple). Probably gonna be too hard to sort it out and I'll just go, but this definitely does not smell like the rollicking fun adventure I was hoping for.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Dont care. Harrison Ford has enough charm to carry even an average movie. I liked all Indiana Jones, yes all of them. They're on DIsney+ now and I'm prolly gonna rewatch them
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
Very sad to see racist, sexist, alt right professional reviewer trolls review bombing this film. We need to do better and Rotten Tomatoes needs to remove their scores and blacklist them immediately. Disney also needs to make a statement denouncing them.
SJRB
Gold Member
Very sad to see racist, sexist, alt right professional reviewer trolls review bombing this film. We need to do better and Rotten Tomatoes needs to remove their scores and blacklist them immediately. Disney also needs to make a statement denouncing them.
Yeah you can see the “if you dislike this movie you’re a sexist” rhetoric coming from a mile away.
I'm sure that same reviewer has a glowing opinion of the Cleopatra "Documentary"
As if folks of more european descent NEVER existed in Egypt and actors can't.......act for a part?
I'm sure this reviewer is LIVID that an Irish lass played an Austrian archeologist, a Vietnamese actor played a Chinese kid, and an englishman played a French archeologist. Surely this reviewer makes geographic and racial distinctions for ALL actors....right? RIGHT???
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
"It's only okay when we do it, peasant."Very sad to see racist, sexist, alt right professional reviewer trolls review bombing this film. We need to do better and Rotten Tomatoes needs to remove their scores and blacklist them immediately. Disney also needs to make a statement denouncing them.
Dr. Claus
Banned
I am part of this generation of creators, so what is it that makes them want toa ctively kill and ruin every beloved franchise?
Terminator? He is outclassed by a strong female human-terminator hybrid that looks like she is about to cry at all times.
Star Wars? Insult every last male character while treating Carrie Fisher like a literal jesus allegory (Hey, I like Fisher and wanted her in a more prominent role, but come the fuck on).
Ghostbusters? Men are bad so let's have an all women cast instead while shitting on/dismissing the originals. (Though to be fair, they did rectify that with Afterlife which was legit fantastic).
Lord of the Rings? Make Elrond a beta ass bitch and Galadriel some doey-eyed warrior and the hobbits literal fucking nightmares.
I know many my generation grew up and fell in love with these films, with these franchises - so why are they so adamant about running them into the fucking ground.
Terminator? He is outclassed by a strong female human-terminator hybrid that looks like she is about to cry at all times.
Star Wars? Insult every last male character while treating Carrie Fisher like a literal jesus allegory (Hey, I like Fisher and wanted her in a more prominent role, but come the fuck on).
Ghostbusters? Men are bad so let's have an all women cast instead while shitting on/dismissing the originals. (Though to be fair, they did rectify that with Afterlife which was legit fantastic).
Lord of the Rings? Make Elrond a beta ass bitch and Galadriel some doey-eyed warrior and the hobbits literal fucking nightmares.
I know many my generation grew up and fell in love with these films, with these franchises - so why are they so adamant about running them into the fucking ground.
Daneel Elijah
Member
What ?
I think he is referring to the Rings of Power show. Compare movie Elrond to show Elrond and he is waaaaaaaay more passive and chill.
RoP could really use some Agent Smith energy.
Daneel Elijah
Member
Didn't see the show. Can't believe that they did this. Hugo Weawing was perfect. Why would they butcher his character?
Dr. Claus
Banned
Because they had to make Galadriel generically strong female warrior - even though she was a freakin' badass and one of the most frightening and beloved characters in the books.
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digoutyoursoul
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43% Rotten Tomatoes
www.rottentomatoes.com
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny | Rotten Tomatoes
Daredevil archaeologist Indiana Jones races against time to retrieve a legendary dial that can change the course of history. Accompanied by his goddaughter, he soon finds himself squaring off against Jürgen Voller, a former Nazi who works for NASA.
www.rottentomatoes.com
TBH, the elrond character was one of the better parts of Ring of Power, but that whole thing was a shit show so it's not saying much.
Melon Husk
Member
Another Cannes review:
www.bbc.com
Yikes y'all
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny review: 'Gloomy and depressing' final act
Harrison Ford and Phoebe Waller-Bridge can't lift a film that is "a depressing reminder of how much livelier his past adventures were", writes Nicholas Barber.
www.bbc.com
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny review: 'Gloomy and depressing' final act
Harrison Ford and Phoebe Waller-Bridge can't lift a film that is "a depressing reminder of how much livelier his past adventures were", writes Nicholas Barber★★☆☆☆
Yikes y'all
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Another Cannes review:
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny review: 'Gloomy and depressing' final act
Harrison Ford and Phoebe Waller-Bridge can't lift a film that is "a depressing reminder of how much livelier his past adventures were", writes Nicholas Barber.Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny review: 'Gloomy and depressing' final act
Harrison Ford and Phoebe Waller-Bridge can't lift a film that is "a depressing reminder of how much livelier his past adventures were", writes Nicholas Barber
★★☆☆☆
Yikes y'all
Oh damn that last part makes the rumors about this film seem more legit.
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thefool
Member
Because a ton of stuff in every shot ends up being digital retouched. A plague of modern cinema, even Scorsese Flowers of the Moon seems plagued by it. Post-prod dominance over actual set production.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
kunonabi
Member
I mean she's been at the forefront of a lot of the marketing material so it shouldn't be a surprise at this point. I don't think the crazier rumors are going to pan out but I'm sure the basic gist of the film trying to pass the torch to her is still going to be the goal.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Another Cannes review:
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny review: 'Gloomy and depressing' final act
Harrison Ford and Phoebe Waller-Bridge can't lift a film that is "a depressing reminder of how much livelier his past adventures were", writes Nicholas Barber.Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny review: 'Gloomy and depressing' final act
Harrison Ford and Phoebe Waller-Bridge can't lift a film that is "a depressing reminder of how much livelier his past adventures were", writes Nicholas Barber
★★☆☆☆
Yikes y'all
"I'm not sure how many fans want to see Indiana Jones as a broken, helpless old man who cowers in the corner while his patronising goddaughter takes the lead, but that's what we're given, and it's as bleak as it sounds."
Damn. I think most of us had our doubts this would live up to the original trilogy, but that review makes it sound worse than Crystal Skull.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I was actually looking forward to this film but after reading that, it sounds a lot worse than I ever expected.
This generation of creators is just bent on destroying all these old franchises with their ideologies.
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Ulysses 31
Member
I was wondering why he hasn't posted any more defence of the movie since this clip and reviews yet like he's been doing in the past.Nothing againstManaByte but maybe all those rumors he was defending against may turn out to have some legitimacy. Especially from that last review.
Maybe reality's starting to sink in.
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