IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I was wondering why he hasn't post any defence of the movie yet like he's been doing in the past.
Maybe reality's starting to sink in.
I'm convinced he's actually James Mangold.
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Indiana Jones & The Dial of Destiny
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I'm convinced he's actually James Mangold.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
He'll probably reply to me after I just tag him.I was wondering why he hasn't posted any more defence of the movie since this clip and review yet like he's been doing in the past.
Maybe reality's starting to sink in.
He's a bit of a fanboy but I have nothing against him and I don't think he's a paid shill or anything but that official review is pretty damning. It's even worse than I expected and I was trying to keep optimistic about it.
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Kilau
Member
Oh well, gotta be better than Crystal Skull reviewed.Very sad to see racist, sexist, alt right professional reviewer trolls review bombing this film. We need to do better and Rotten Tomatoes needs to remove their scores and blacklist them immediately. Disney also needs to make a statement denouncing them.
Badlucktroll
Gold Member
Did they retcon shia
Ulysses 31
Member
I think he died a while back in the story.
SirTerry-T
Member
The Indy franchise should have stopped at the third film.
FFS Spielberg, get on the phone to Jackson and give us another Tintin film.
FFS Spielberg, get on the phone to Jackson and give us another Tintin film.
Badlucktroll
Gold Member
Madflavor
Gold Member
Another angle to look at here is James Mangold, and the pattern of Lucasfilm announcing projects early with a director who's hot at the time, and then cancelling the project after the director puts out a film/show that stinks. It happened with Patty Jenkins, Weiss and Benioff, and Josh Trank to name a few, but there was more. With James Mangold they announced a Jedi Origins film with him as the director, and now Indiana Jones 5 is shaping up to be the cinematic equivalent of doo doo butter. So be on the look out for the same pattern to follow here.
What's really sad about this situation is that the film is shaping up to be exactly what EVERYONE thought was going to be. A film that disrespects Indiana Jones as a character and the legacy he left behind, only to be upstaged and talked down to by an annoying feminist asshole. It's like the one playing card Disney/LF has with these franchises these past 10 years, and people are so sick of watching their beloved heroes being deconstructed and ruined.
What's really sad about this situation is that the film is shaping up to be exactly what EVERYONE thought was going to be. A film that disrespects Indiana Jones as a character and the legacy he left behind, only to be upstaged and talked down to by an annoying feminist asshole. It's like the one playing card Disney/LF has with these franchises these past 10 years, and people are so sick of watching their beloved heroes being deconstructed and ruined.
SirKicksalot
Member
Even IGN gave it a 4 lmao
www.ign.com
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Review - IGN
The fifth movie fails to recapture Spielberg’s magic. With uninspired action and conflicting themes and character motivations, it’s proof that some things should just be allowed to end.
Werewolf Jones
Member
If you don't wanna give IGN a click.
The sad thing is that they will blame Indy as a "tired example of male misogyny and white patricarchy that no one wants to see" when the reality is we just want a fun brisk action adventure with a dynamic charismatic male lead who slings a whip, finds some ancient shit, punches a bunch if bad guys, and kisses a girl. Thus formula ain't exactly rocket science.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
But Top Gun 2 is sitting out there being manly and cool and blowing stuff up for no real reason. Saved the cinema.
Stole the trench run from iron eagle and Star Wars.
HoodWinked
Member
Disney firing on all cylinders. it's so bizarre that toxic misandry has become some kind of virtue that must be forcefully inserted into every damn Disney film these days.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Don't forget there's also an official Indiana Jones video game in the works.
I wonder how they're going to handle that? Probably very poorly.
I wonder how they're going to handle that? Probably very poorly.
A little unfair but probably not far off. The Star Wars films do pretty well, but I just gotta think the merch side is a pale shade compared to the OT and even PT stuff. The video games may do well for them though, who can say.
Indy really shoulda had a cartoon that they could use to bridge the character to younger audiences, then relaunch it with Harrison as a cameo and a new Indy back where he belongs in the 20s and 30s. Get him back fighting nazis, proto nazis, and unscrupulous archeologists with a bit more of a fair shake to the cultures he visits, but less of the educational "let me meet rando famous people" aspect the Chronicles had.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Yeah. This is a real kick in the balls since Raiders of the Lost Ark it's probably my favorite movie of all time. I still remember seeing it with my late father back in 1981 in theaters.
In fact, I'm one of the few people who also really loves Temple of Doom.
So it kind of sucks to see what looks like some kind of ideological agenda here, which doesn't surprise me though considering the times as well as it being Disney.
cash_longfellow
Member
This is a late night talk show skit right?…there is no way this is real, is it?
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I kind of liked Crystal Skull. In fact, so far I've liked every Indiana Jones movie but this may be the first one I don't.
LordCBH
Member
I didn’t like it as much as the first 3, but I agree with your assessment here.
Fake
Gold Member
Even IGN gave it a 4 lmao
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Review - IGN
The fifth movie fails to recapture Spielberg’s magic. With uninspired action and conflicting themes and character motivations, it’s proof that some things should just be allowed to end.
Lets be honest here, IGN just follow the others reviews for clicks.
Saber
Member
Even IGN gave it a 4 lmao
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Review - IGN
The fifth movie fails to recapture Spielberg’s magic. With uninspired action and conflicting themes and character motivations, it’s proof that some things should just be allowed to end.
Even IGN review is worth as much as an used toilet paper. The guy behind talked pretending to sound cool and tried its best to not talk that bad of the female leading character.
The movie is bad, but this review falls in category of going with the flow.
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See, they should go back and remake Barbarella, Caged Heat, Thelma and Louise, or stuff like that. Movies with the message they want already or that could be co opted with little complaint. What happened to Red Sonja anyway?
Contrary to liberal opinion, there are options from the past that reflect their values without the need to shit all over guy stuff.
I want a high budget remake of They Live, that film is down right prophetic. And not a Rock/Kevin Hart joke version either (though that could be dope), but a serious honest version.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
With all the emphasis on powerful female characters in Disney movies, I'm surprised they haven't done Mara Jade yet. Maybe it's because she's actually a well-written and good powerful female character that men actually like.
I think people just wanted a regular movie, no agenda, no nothing. Top Gun 2 is just ok, maybe a 7, there's really nothing happening.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Good.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
No, you're think of the Last Crusade
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
This sounds like a disaster… who could have guessed.. another icon becomes a sad, bitter, broken shadow of themselves? The f is wrong with Lucasfilm? Is that how you really think you are passing the torch? This sounds miles away from the good efforts made by Picard Season 3, a master class of doing that by comparison.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I guess they hate your (our) generation… at some point there must be some of that in.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Why are y'all hanging on to that one review? It's like 50/50 with the reviews. You'll either like it or not like it. It's all down to personal taste. Lemme balance this thread, as all things should be...
The Wrap:
But that’s the curse of the modern-day action flick. “Dial of Destiny” has an ace in the hole with Harrison Ford and with the character he plays – a guy for whom we feel so much affection that we’ll go along with all kinds of silliness if we can see a little more Indy. It really makes Indiana Jones our most endearing action hero, and Ford and Mangold clearly know that and know how to work with it.
When the film calms down after (spoiler alert) the world has been saved, there are some beautifully affecting moments. If this is the final Indiana Jones movie, as it most likely will be, it’s nice to see that they stuck the landing.
www.thewrap.com
https://www.vulture.com/article/ind...utm_medium=social_acct&utm_campaign=feed-part
Awards Watch
Harrison Ford finds a fitting end to one of cinema’s greatest action heroes, and one of the most iconic roles of his career, with this film. It’s seriously great to see Ford in action for one last wild, non-stop ride as he gives it his all, more so physically than emotionally.
awardswatch.com
Collider
The most thrilling aspect of Dial of Destiny is its action sequences. The film kicks off at the end of World War II in a de-aged flashback to a younger Indy fighting Nazis on a speeding train, and then shows that even after decades of adventuring, Indy's still got it when we jump to 1969. Whether it's on a horse or behind the wheel of a tuk-tuk, Ford shows he's still a compelling action star. The action set pieces of Dial of Destiny are sprawling, be it on land, sea, or in the air, director James Mangold never holds back on the fun of these scenes.
collider.com
The Wrap:
But that’s the curse of the modern-day action flick. “Dial of Destiny” has an ace in the hole with Harrison Ford and with the character he plays – a guy for whom we feel so much affection that we’ll go along with all kinds of silliness if we can see a little more Indy. It really makes Indiana Jones our most endearing action hero, and Ford and Mangold clearly know that and know how to work with it.
When the film calms down after (spoiler alert) the world has been saved, there are some beautifully affecting moments. If this is the final Indiana Jones movie, as it most likely will be, it’s nice to see that they stuck the landing.
'Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny' Review: It Might Be Silly, But It's Indy
Cannes 2023: Director James Mangold whips up an exuberant action flick that relies on the charm and charisma of Harrison Ford
www.thewrap.com
https://www.vulture.com/article/ind...utm_medium=social_acct&utm_campaign=feed-part
Awards Watch
Harrison Ford finds a fitting end to one of cinema’s greatest action heroes, and one of the most iconic roles of his career, with this film. It’s seriously great to see Ford in action for one last wild, non-stop ride as he gives it his all, more so physically than emotionally.
AwardsWatch - ‘Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny’ review: Harrison Ford says farewell in this nostalgic, thrilling final chapter | Cannes
Taking the reins from Steven Spielberg is no easy feat, but James Mangold proves that he’s up for the task with this adventurous fifth and final entry into the Indiana Jones franchise. Indiana Jone…
awardswatch.com
Collider
The most thrilling aspect of Dial of Destiny is its action sequences. The film kicks off at the end of World War II in a de-aged flashback to a younger Indy fighting Nazis on a speeding train, and then shows that even after decades of adventuring, Indy's still got it when we jump to 1969. Whether it's on a horse or behind the wheel of a tuk-tuk, Ford shows he's still a compelling action star. The action set pieces of Dial of Destiny are sprawling, be it on land, sea, or in the air, director James Mangold never holds back on the fun of these scenes.
'Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny' Review: An Uneven, Thrilling Last Ride
Director James Mangold takes the reins on the final act of this iconic action series, which is steeped in nostalgia and weak in story.
collider.com
Jinzo Prime
Member
Already happening in some box office forums/threads. "Old white people don't go see movies" is the current cope.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I'm so (not) shocked to see that it sucks. This franchise was over with 30 years ago. It was a great trilogy. Everything after was fanfiction.
Salz01
Member
It sounds like Ryan Mcfuckerty. There is nothing to cover about Xbox at the moment so he is attempting to do movies.
Salz01
Member
This gives me a tad more hope.Why are y'all hanging on to that one review? It's like 50/50 with the reviews. You'll either like it or not like it. It's all down to personal taste. Lemme balance this thread, as all things should be...
The Wrap:
But that’s the curse of the modern-day action flick. “Dial of Destiny” has an ace in the hole with Harrison Ford and with the character he plays – a guy for whom we feel so much affection that we’ll go along with all kinds of silliness if we can see a little more Indy. It really makes Indiana Jones our most endearing action hero, and Ford and Mangold clearly know that and know how to work with it.
When the film calms down after (spoiler alert) the world has been saved, there are some beautifully affecting moments. If this is the final Indiana Jones movie, as it most likely will be, it’s nice to see that they stuck the landing.
'Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny' Review: It Might Be Silly, But It's Indy
Cannes 2023: Director James Mangold whips up an exuberant action flick that relies on the charm and charisma of Harrison Ford
https://www.vulture.com/article/ind...utm_medium=social_acct&utm_campaign=feed-part
Awards Watch
Harrison Ford finds a fitting end to one of cinema’s greatest action heroes, and one of the most iconic roles of his career, with this film. It’s seriously great to see Ford in action for one last wild, non-stop ride as he gives it his all, more so physically than emotionally.
AwardsWatch - ‘Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny’ review: Harrison Ford says farewell in this nostalgic, thrilling final chapter | Cannes
Taking the reins from Steven Spielberg is no easy feat, but James Mangold proves that he’s up for the task with this adventurous fifth and final entry into the Indiana Jones franchise. Indiana Jone…
Collider
The most thrilling aspect of Dial of Destiny is its action sequences. The film kicks off at the end of World War II in a de-aged flashback to a younger Indy fighting Nazis on a speeding train, and then shows that even after decades of adventuring, Indy's still got it when we jump to 1969. Whether it's on a horse or behind the wheel of a tuk-tuk, Ford shows he's still a compelling action star. The action set pieces of Dial of Destiny are sprawling, be it on land, sea, or in the air, director James Mangold never holds back on the fun of these scenes.
'Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny' Review: An Uneven, Thrilling Last Ride
Director James Mangold takes the reins on the final act of this iconic action series, which is steeped in nostalgia and weak in story.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
I was googling earlier and this popped up:
'Indiana Jones' Has Aged Terribly
The world’s most famous fictional archaeologist's legacy feels as dusty as his antiquities.www.vice.com
Thousands of words to inform us that a character set almost 100 years ago fails to meet the moral standards of the modern era. That's the point...
Listen to these morons at your own peril if you're trying to do anything creative. The only way to please them is by completely sanitizing any humanity from your work.
Vice.com can't die soon enough.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
We’ve seen a good chunk of that tuk-tuk scene - it was not good. If that’s what they’re praising, how credible is that reviewer?
Some surprising reactions from the press given the talent behind and in front of the screen here. Curious if it is really as creatively offensive as I'm reading or is just a matter of folks not knowing how to let go of the past. Definitely not going to base this of some one minute clip though.
FunkMiller
Member
Feels like you're damning it with faint praise there, to be honest my friend.
The Indiana Jones movies should be - and were - a high watermark of film making. If we've reached the point where 'only half the reviews say it's crap' is a way to defend it, the franchise has fallen a long, long way. The original trilogy is some of the finest adventure movie stuff we've ever seen, featuring filmmakers at the top of their game, in an era that allowed them freedom for the creativity to flourish. Raiders remains one of my top five movies of all time.
This now feels like a flat shadow of all that. A dull, safe, corporate mandated echo, that cannot hope to compare, thanks to the way Hollywood conducts itself these days. Very sad.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
All four Indiana Jones movies were about 2 hours so I guess this is going to be the longest one.
I also heard this is the most expensive movie Lucasfilm has ever produced. If it's as bad as it sounds that is disheartening.
Chiggs
Gold Member
If it's more expensive than Rise of Skywalker, then Disney is in for a dark summer.
‘Star Wars: Rise Of Skywalker’ Lowest Profit Of Disney Trilogy Titles: No. 9 On Deadline’s 2019 Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament
'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' see $300M profit, but it's the lowest next to 'Last Jedi' and 'Force Awakens'
deadline.com
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Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
It's supposed to be close to $295 million dollars, so yes more expensive than Rise of Skywalker.If it's more expensive that Rise of Skywalker, then Disney is in for a dark summer.
‘Star Wars: Rise Of Skywalker’ Lowest Profit Of Disney Trilogy Titles: No. 9 On Deadline’s 2019 Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament
'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' see $300M profit, but it's the lowest next to 'Last Jedi' and 'Force Awakens'