Indiana to allow schools to replace teaching cursive with typing
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Advance_Alarm
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once you move past 8th grade everything you write will be in cursive
that scared me shitless when the teacher first said it.
that scared me shitless when the teacher first said it.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Yeah, it's usually just some bizarre personal mark most of the times.Trojita said:
Dutch Mafia
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Cursive will be a lost art soon and someday we will seek out those who are good at it.
WickedAngel
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AbsoluteZero said:
If by important you mean "The least important subject matter in the entire public education curriculum."
It's already useless now and will become even more useless as biometrics become ubiquitous.
It's this weird legalese type thing (saying "I swear I didn't cheat" or some shit) at the end where, normally you would just put your signature but they require you to write out the entire paragraph in cursive. It doesn't affect your score or anything but if you don't do it, I believe it can invalidate your test.Kusagari said:
It's bullshit.
edit: people on yahoo answers claim you can write it in print, then sign your name and they will accept it. Don't know how accurate that is.
Sixfortyfive
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This change is way past overdue.
Haha, I remember getting the same lecture in grade school. I wonder how common that is.Advance_Alarm said:
HAL_Laboratory
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Agreed.AbsoluteZero said:
Chicken scratch future.
345triangle
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i'm all for this erosion of basic class and style in america if it makes me look distinguished, individual and basically well-educated by comparison. i've written everything properly since i was like eight years old and i'm not about to change.
learning to join your letters is like learning to tie your shoes - i mean, fuck it, why not just use velcro all your life?
learning to join your letters is like learning to tie your shoes - i mean, fuck it, why not just use velcro all your life?
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I didn't use cursive past the 5th grade. That SAT entry was the saddest looking mess I've ever written. Looked like I paid a drunken hobo with a broken fountain pen to write it for me.EskimoJoe said:
Still ended up with 95% in language skills.
Yep. With practice, that actually moves along at a decent speed as well.Kurtofan said:
Sixfortyfive
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"Not cursive" is "print."Kurtofan said:
Being left-handed, I basically just despise handwriting in general and avoid it whenever possible. Always smudging the paper with my hand and I apparently don't even grip a pencil or tilt my paper properly because I was never taught correctly. It does take me a long time to write anything and I was always somewhat frustrated with essay tests in high school that had strict time limits because I know I could have done 5x better had I been able to type them instead.
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This topic is kind of blowing my mind. Since when was learning cursive such a labor intensive process?
There was more than enough time to learn both.
There was more than enough time to learn both.
SneakyStephan
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Unless cursive means something different than it does in dutch, what the hell are people talking about in this thread.
When I have a kid, if he/she isn't thought how to write in school, then there will be hell to pay.
Who the fuck takes notes in print?
Writing in print at all unless when you fill out forms that have to be read by a machine is unheard of here , let alone not teaching your kids how to write in cursive.
Backwards ass country you people have.
I was writing about 30-50 pages worth of notes and other stuff a day by my last year of highschool, let alone in college.
Can't imagine trying to do all that in print. (and I'm a lefty too)
Mind boggling, that's what this is.
Even if it somehow wasn't a ridiculous idea not do, why bother leaving it out?
Takes like a month (an hour a day) to properly teach it in second grade of primary school.
What the hell else do kids in second grade have to do all day?
When I have a kid, if he/she isn't thought how to write in school, then there will be hell to pay.
Who the fuck takes notes in print?
Writing in print at all unless when you fill out forms that have to be read by a machine is unheard of here , let alone not teaching your kids how to write in cursive.
Backwards ass country you people have.
I was writing about 30-50 pages worth of notes and other stuff a day by my last year of highschool, let alone in college.
Can't imagine trying to do all that in print. (and I'm a lefty too)
Mind boggling, that's what this is.
Even if it somehow wasn't a ridiculous idea not do, why bother leaving it out?
Takes like a month (an hour a day) to properly teach it in second grade of primary school.
What the hell else do kids in second grade have to do all day?
Dog Problems
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I don't even remember how to completely write in cursive. When I do my signature it's a mess of squiggles.
parrotbeak
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Ya, I never thought I would need cursive. Then I signed a mortgage contract. The notary public told me to actually sign my name and not just make a scribble. I had forgotten how and just printed my name without lifting the pen.
benjipwns
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Who needs actual signatures: http://www.zug.com/pranks/credit/LastWindow said:
On the machines I can't even write anything at all 99% of the time.
Sixfortyfive
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Unless forced to, I rarely took notes at all except for the most vital of details. I have a pretty good memory. Just about every college course I ever had put the important stuff on powerpoint slides that we could download at our own convenience anyway.SneakyStephan said:
ALL OF MY HATE!benjipwns said:
SneakyStephan
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AstroLad said:
Yeah ,no , your country is third world in just about every way compared to mine.
Just because everyone has a pc now that doesn't mean you stop teaching people how to write.
Do your schools stop teaching basic math too because you have calculators?
US education system already has a notoriously bad rep, now it's too much to teach writing and have a typing course?
bloodforge
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My writing is an amalgamation of print and cursive, and mostly illegible to anybody but myself.
I don't even remember how to write some letters(mostly capitals) in cursive(at least until I saw the image on the first page).
I think schools should still teach cursive, but not take as much time to do so and spend the rest of the time on typing.
I don't even remember how to write some letters(mostly capitals) in cursive(at least until I saw the image on the first page).
I think schools should still teach cursive, but not take as much time to do so and spend the rest of the time on typing.
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I nearly panicked when I saw I had to do that for the GRE too. I would've studied if I knew!Hulud said:
I get the feeling this isn't about cursive being archaic, or typing being more functional, but rather that cursive is something that requires a lot of practice, and might lead to a child's low self esteem.
There's a general trend in education to de-emphasize anything that doesn't immediately bolster a child's esteem, and it's frightening.
Typing is a great skill to learn, but it doesn't mean writing in script needs to be replaced.
There's a general trend in education to de-emphasize anything that doesn't immediately bolster a child's esteem, and it's frightening.
Typing is a great skill to learn, but it doesn't mean writing in script needs to be replaced.
SneakyStephan said:
So conceited and so backwards all at once.
MrPliskin said:
People do whatever they want for signatures and they're still accepted. I'm looking at a prescription from my doctor right now, and the signature looks like half a W that then turns into a squiggle, and he doesn't have the letter W in his name.
Was learning how to do cursive that big of an issue for soooo many of you? Dear lord...
took me a month in the 1st grade and that was it. I use it seldom, but when I do, people compliment the fact I took the time to do it and how well formed it is.
It's not that big of a deal and does nothing to take away from the schooling schedule. If it does, it's the teachers fault for not being able to put together a cogent lesson plan for a bunch of grade schoolers.
took me a month in the 1st grade and that was it. I use it seldom, but when I do, people compliment the fact I took the time to do it and how well formed it is.
It's not that big of a deal and does nothing to take away from the schooling schedule. If it does, it's the teachers fault for not being able to put together a cogent lesson plan for a bunch of grade schoolers.
SneakyStephan said:
Hey guys, we've got this new papyrus and ink but shouldn't we continue teaching people how to etch things into stone? It could make a comeback. You never know when you'll need to use it!
People still know how to write. Cursive is just an alternate choice for speed which you'll far surpass in speed once you can type well. If you really need to write quickly then you should learn a form of short hand. You're probably writing notes for a class or meeting and then you'll go type them up.
First off, trig is used plenty in certain fields; secondly, it's a prerequisite for calculus, which for some reason this country feels everyone needs to know, even though they should be teaching everyone statistics.mrklaw said:
Secondly, the problem with cursive handwriting is that they don't just spend a month or so on it. A good chunk of people's early education is spent on a completely irrelevant skill that doesn't really improve anything but hand-eye coordination. Furthermore, I challenge your assertion that "there is no need to teach touch typing" or "most people manage fine with two finger typing." The world record for 2-finger typing is just 40 wpm. I average around 145 wpm and I think people who learn to touch-type early enough can do 80 wpm pretty easily. Cursive writing is, of course, lower than either in wpm. My point is that people can get vastly more done in less time if they learn to touch-type, and the fact that some schools don't think this is important is kind of crazy.
As for there being no middle ground, no one says "don't teach people how to write at all." But requiring people to spend ages perfecting an obscure variant of scripted English that is rarely used is silly.
benjipwns
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I don't bother with the capital letters, I can do all the lower case and probably could do the capitals if I thought about it but just invent my own version.Sharp said:
It's worth noting that I had a number of college professors specifically state that you should print and not write cursive on exams.
Amusing since their own handwriting is illegible at least 75% of the time.
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Bad_Boy said:
At this point mine's not even cursive anymore, it's a scrawl.
Which is funny because when I first got my license I signed in perfect 4th grade script, my signature today looks nothing like it.
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