IndieGogo - Windows 10 GPD Handheld -299$ "A Laptop Fitting in Your Pocket"

MJPIA said:
You'll have to forgive my double post because I'm hyped to hell right now.
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4744727611
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Anything the passive cooled protoypes can do this can do better, far far better.
Battery is very low although I will note we have no context and the battery could have been not fully charged to begin with.
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i'm late to this but 80c is still hot for such a device, on my windows 10 tablet I can change the bios settings to adust when and how the chip is throttled and i'm use to a hot tablet when it's watching videos, I kind of worry about such a hot handheald. My tablet also heats up more if it's sucking juice from the mains so playing with this thing plugged in might push it.
 
Cool Guy Sami said:
This looks like something that could have been neat in 2001.
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Great post!

I agree-it would have been "neat" to have a sub $400 pocket sized computer that plays PC games, emulators, streams, etc back in 2001. Ill go even further to say that it could have been "spiffy".

So-I ended up buying mine from Geekbuying.com. Wonder when I can reasonably expect it.
 
brainpann said:
Great post!

I agree-it would have been amazing to have a sub $400 pocket sized computer that plays PC games, emulators, streams, etc back in 2001.
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Yeah, if only there were something I can get right now that can play PC games like KOTOR or GTA San Andreas, emulators, and streams. Oh wait, my Android phone can do that, with the added benefit that it can play mobile games.
 
brainpann said:
Great post!

I agree-it would have been amazing to have a sub $400 pocket sized computer that plays PC games, emulators, streams, etc back in 2001.
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It would've been great for checking geocities and using Napster to download Britney Spears songs.

therealist said:
Yeah, if only there were something I can get right now that can play PC games like KOTOR or GTA San Andreas, emulators, and streams. Oh wait, my Android phone can do that, with the added benefit that it can play mobile games.
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So its probably not for you. The primary audience this is aimed at is in Asia. There's an interesting niche that is asking for a highly portable pc. This is the perfect device to satisfy it, the fact that a lot of people on GAF are clamouring for it is more of a side effect.

And your Android phone plays some PC ports (which are few and far between), the GPD potentially has access to the steam library. It's a pretty big difference.
 
Every page there's one or two people saying the same ignorance.

Anyway, I'm tempted to buy from GeekBuying. Interested to see if I can get Witcher 3 running as "well" as it does on Surface 3 (in theory it should be better)
 
therealist said:
Yeah, if only there were something I can get right now that can play PC games like KOTOR or GTA San Andreas, emulators, and streams. Oh wait, my Android phone can do that, with the added benefit that it can play mobile games.
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Your Android phone can't 'play PC games like KOTOR or GTA San Andreas'. It can play those two specific games plus a couple other ones that may have been specifically ported to Android. And it can't play them very well. The benefit of playing mobile games really? as opposed to being "limited" to the Steam library you mean?
 
Cool Guy Sami said:
This looks like something that could have been neat in 2001.
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Its a palmtop pc more powerful than any computer from 2001 for less than $400 that can play most games from ps3 era on back and it could have been neat in 2001?
Yes we get it, this isn't for everyone.

Diablohead said:
i'm late to this but 80c is still hot for such a device, on my windows 10 tablet I can change the bios settings to adust when and how the chip is throttled and i'm use to a hot tablet when it's watching videos, I kind of worry about such a hot handheald. My tablet also heats up more if it's sucking juice from the mains so playing with this thing plugged in might push it.
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That's internal cpu temp, IIRC they mentioned elsewhere that the body/part of the body was right around 42C when CPU temp was at 80C.
Still hot but we are talking about a device the size of a 3ds xl with a 1.6ghz clock speed running with turboboost at 1.81ghz for half an hour.
Never looked into it but I'm assuming you can disable turboboost if you don't want the extra speed and heat.
 
Diablohead said:
i'm late to this but 80c is still hot for such a device, on my windows 10 tablet I can change the bios settings to adust when and how the chip is throttled and i'm use to a hot tablet when it's watching videos, I kind of worry about such a hot handheald. My tablet also heats up more if it's sucking juice from the mains so playing with this thing plugged in might push it.
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If im not mistaken that was for the Prototype without the copper heatsink and the fan so it should be alot cooler for the final version, review units I believe are being sent out soon to English speakers so we should have more accurate tests soon.
Edit: Nvm supposedly at least according to translate it is the fan version.
The Abominable Snowman said:
Every page there's one or two people saying the same ignorance.

Anyway, I'm tempted to buy from GeekBuying. Interested to see if I can get Witcher 3 running as "well" as it does on Surface 3 (in theory it should be better)
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Don't think it will run well but take a look at LowSpecGamer (Youtuber) if you want to go deep into fiddling with a game you can get some stuff working decently well on low spec stuff.

therealist said:
Yeah, if only there were something I can get right now that can play PC games like KOTOR or GTA San Andreas, emulators, and streams. Oh wait, my Android phone can do that, with the added benefit that it can play mobile games.
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Yeah mate you enjoy your *mobile games* clearly you don't understand the product or why people are buying it.
 
therealist said:
Yeah, if only there were something I can get right now that can play PC games like KOTOR or GTA San Andreas, emulators, and streams. Oh wait, my Android phone can do that, with the added benefit that it can play mobile games.
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Yet your phone can't play a single windows game. You can play the two or three ports of old ass PC games, congrats!
Meanwhile I'll be playing 2016 games on this thing.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7A6uHEU66o
This guy has both and does a side by side comparison of the passive and actively cooled version and the differences.
He alternates between somewhat broken English and Cantonese in describing things.
Couple bits, the fan switch has 3 settings as we know but I don't think it was confirmed until now but the three are high, low and off.
No software control although I'm not gonna hold that against them seeing how it was a last minute major design change.
It might be independent of the rest of the system and have its own connection to the battery supply regardless of the system being on or off but that is entirely my speculation at this point.
Considering how small the fan is and they've said its not loud I can't really see many situations where you'd need a low setting for even less sound but if you do well its got it.

You can see the size difference between the two although it isn't huge.
He does do multiple go arounds on each of the palmtops so you can see the shoulder buttons and ports, the speaker and fan holes and the differences between the two and so on.

I think this guy uploads his stuff on Youko first and then later posts them onto his youtube channel.
Might be worth following to see what all he posts cause Youko hates me and youtube videos are so much easier to watch for me at least.
I think he had a video of the original Doom 1 or 2 that I assume he'll upload soon.
You can see him switching between using the joystick as a controller and then mouse by switching over, a bit awkward but kinda neat to see to me at least.
 
I don't mind the additional thickness and in some respects it may be more comfortable. But had it been a consideration at the start, we could've seen adjustments to the shoulder buttons and ports on the top.

Can't imagine the fan drains the battery to a significant level, but toggling it off for flights when I want to play less taxing software is nice.
 
broncobuster said:
I don't mind the additional thickness and in some respects it may be more comfortable. But had it been a consideration at the start, we could've seen adjustments to the shoulder buttons and ports on the top.

Can't imagine the fan drains the battery to a significant level, but toggling it off for flights when I want to play less taxing software is nice.
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Agreed on all points; I am glad that they upped the mAh of the battery to accommodate the fan (and then some, probably).
 
SF5 on the actively cooled Z8750 model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB7...eLive遊戲直播室
Same youtube guy I mentioned before.
Cpu utilization sat around 75-80% in battle, CPU temp hovered around 55-60C and framerate was stable around 25 fps.
Considering the minimum system requirements thats playing better than I anticipated TBH.

Really like how this guy does it, he has screen capture from the Win itself and in the bottom left he has another video running showing a recording of him playing on it synced with the main video and he has framerate, cpu temp and utilization all up on the screen.
 
MJPIA said:
SF5 on the actively cooled Z8750 model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB7...eLive遊戲直播室
Same youtube guy I mentioned before.
Cpu utilization sat around 75-80% in battle, CPU temp hovered around 55-60C and framerate was stable around 25 fps.
Considering the minimum system requirements thats playing better than I anticipated TBH.

Really like how this guy does it, he has screen capture from the Win itself and in the bottom left he has another video running showing a recording of him playing on it synced with the main video and he has framerate, cpu temp and utilization all up on the screen.
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I saw this a couple hours ago. Honestly, the CPU at 75-80% and ~55-60C with the way the game was playing was surprisingly good. This isn't a game I could see myself playing on this device, but the results of the active cooling system so far are very promising.
 
MJPIA said:
SF5 on the actively cooled Z8750 model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB7...eLive遊戲直播室
Same youtube guy I mentioned before.
Cpu utilization sat around 75-80% in battle, CPU temp hovered around 55-60C and framerate was stable around 25 fps.
Considering the minimum system requirements thats playing better than I anticipated TBH.

Really like how this guy does it, he has screen capture from the Win itself and in the bottom left he has another video running showing a recording of him playing on it synced with the main video and he has framerate, cpu temp and utilization all up on the screen.
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Not bad not bad not expecting to run AAA games from the last 4 years or so but its nice to see what its capable of, going to be fun tweaking and messing around with game settings.

Definitely have a problem when it comes to handhelds, in the last 4 or so years I have owned a Vita, N3DSXL, GPD XD, And now the GPD WIn, all had Homebrew and emulators on every device...Will tie me over till a possible GPD Win 2 haha.
 
These guys should make gaming laptops. For $499, that's damn good what they're able to do. The GPD WIN is basically a mini laptop anyway. Imagine what they can do with a $699 or $799 device that's focused on 720p first. Real gaming laptops are $1000+.
 
Cow Mengde said:
These guys should make gaming laptops. For $499, that's damn good what they're able to do. The GPD WIN is basically a mini laptop anyway. Imagine what they can do with a $699 or $799 device that's focused on 720p first. Real gaming laptops are $1000+.
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Highly doubt they would do well the Chinese market is flooded with average to decent laptops/tablets already.
 
andythinkpad said:
I rather buy this from a Chinese company I have never heard of on Aliexpress than IndieGogo.
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*shrug* I understand the stigma with IndieGogo but the creators will get their money, IndieGogo users will get shipped to first, and GPD has literally been logging into the campaign every single day and responding to backer's comments. I'm not worried about it for this particular project.
 
Well, I recently picked up an HP Stream from WalMart for $150 and it plays about a 1/5 of my Steam Library pretty well, and was even able to sorta play Overwatch (at 15fps). Makes me think that this thing may actually be doable, just gotta keep your expectations in check.
 
Well latest batch of 100 devices on IGG have sold out yesterday and judging by comments made on baidu today GPD isn't going to offer any more through it.
I think they opened up and sold 3 additional batches of 100 devices after the campaign ended.
So unless something changes anyone late to the party will have to order from one of the 8 or so third party sellers now.
Just over a Week until Chinese JD backers get their devices and I think some Western testers will get test units around the same time and I know they'll be doing some serious benchmarks and tests.
 
Man, saw the bump and thought it was an update about the ship date. I am looking forward to screwing around with it.

I am hoping the Vega+ handheld ships around the same time
 
Maximo said:
I mean yeah ? You can buy it off Aliexpress or many third party sellers if you want.
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Does anyone have a recommendation of where it would be best to pick it up from? I've seen similar android based devices on Amazon so is there any chance this could be sold by a third party seller on there?
 
KatamariOnTheRocks said:
Does anyone have a recommendation of where it would be best to pick it up from? I've seen similar android based devices on Amazon so is there any chance this could be sold by a third party seller on there?
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Nothing on Amazon currently at least.
Take yer pick.
There are a couple EU stores.
These are all the authorized third party sellers I'm aware of.
China http://www.geekbuying.com/item/GPD-...ss-Screen-1280-720-Type-C---Black-367872.html
China http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_364503.html
Spain http://www.micomputer.es/en/home/227-gpd-win.html
China http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-Gamepad-Quad-Core-2/1182965_32674665290.html
China http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...B-Gamepad-Quad-Core-2/833226_32676923867.html
China http://www.dinodirect.com/gpd-win-5...gamepad-gorilla-glass-1280-720-p42275491.html
Germany https://www.dragonbox.de/en/475-gpd-win-preorder-read-the-description-gpd.html

I dunno if they still have it but at one point DinoDirect had a 10% off coupon that worked on it if you sign up for their newsletter which drops it to $300.
They also have some of the best shipping options I've seen from a Chinese company and upgrading to one is affordably priced and worth it to me at least considering how much faster it'll arrive.
 
rauelius said:
Well, I recently picked up an HP Stream from WalMart for $150 and it plays about a 1/5 of my Steam Library pretty well, and was even able to sorta play Overwatch (at 15fps). Makes me think that this thing may actually be doable, just gotta keep your expectations in check.
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Makes me think what the frame rate on the gpd would be
 
Final Fantasy 12 (demo?) PCSX2 on actively cooled I assume.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTcwOTkzNDUwNA==.html?beta&
Framerate hovered around 40-50 fps with lowest dip during combat to 37 fps I think.
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4763304732
Comparison of high-profile of a PS2 game. Game speed of 40 to 50 as a RPG game point can not worry about slow play it. Specially adjusted to the screen on the original picture x2 optimization can be seen with the speed difference is not original great. You can see the battle screen delayed significantly.
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http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTcxMDc2MTE2MA==.html?beta&
Final Fantasy 10
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4764341225
capacity is 20G reset the PC version of Final Fantasy 10 HD, very smooth almost no Caton. But have Tucao, the charging battery when it is too hot, sometimes unexplained fever will stand down fast. But basically have been very satisfied, ff10 on pc before playing a long really do not want to change again on psv, the effect is like running gpd.
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Yay for youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpVeLLFzdjM
Gamelive playing PS2 Onimushi 3using PCSX2 GSdx @512x448 resolution
Although some shooting before the game demo video, but in order so that we can feel pretty picture quality further this GPD WIN, so the use of HDMI output PC portable machine to connect Capture Device, while the size of the screen to display usage and actual game screen, and the demo version of the game is the PS2 emulator simulator chick within the "Onimusha 3" (Onimusha 3), although the game is not full speed, but remains acceptable 20-30 FPS count!
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FPS does stay around 24-30 fps but it is slow motion.
Temp peaked at 56C.
 
DrROBschiz said:
Ouch

Is this the active cooled or the passive?
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Active.
Not too surprised, PS2 emulation is still quirky and one game could run amazing and then another awful on the same device.
For those of you who intend to emulate you'll probably need to play around with settings to see if you can get stuff running well.
 
MJPIA said:
Active.
Not too surprised, PS2 emulation is still quirky and one game could run amazing and then another awful on the same device.
For those of you who intend to emulate you'll probably need to play around with settings to see if you can get stuff running well.
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Yeah its crazy

I remember emulating PS2 on my brothers crappy laptop a long time ago just fine

But it does vary wildly based on the game and the settings

Hopefully it can be done
 
First games I'm trying on PCSX2 are Shinobi, Super Dragon Ball Z, and Gungrave. On my older laptop, those ran fairly well compared with most others. Not expecting a portable PS2 or Gamecube/Wii but certain games should run well.
 
Resident evil 6?
800x600 resolution.
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4714409570

Monster hunter online, I don't think this one was posted yet but am unsure about that.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTcxMjg5Mzc2MA==.html?beta&

World of Warcraft 1.12.1, The only WoW I know anything about is world of warships but from what I gather this is the original WoW from back when it was released.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTcxMTI2NTAyNA==.html?beta&
FPS seemed to be around 25-30 most the time until the end of the video where it dropped to just above 20.
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4764914424
Hello everybody. Nothing we tried a relatively anticipated game. Unfortunately, the stand-alone version ( you can a person defend the tribe or alliance) because I have not play World of Warcraft so this is just a simple test the next game scene with the game PC speed .GPDWIN play the original game screen is indeed very delicate word only drawback is it can be a small dot (. eyes have blind) ado: summarize the overall rate of 25 to 30. as a PC game can be enjoyable play the (focus: no screen to the lowest setting the video quality and other settings, please look at the screenshot to enlarge it to the landlord to forgive himself blind eyes have been looking for.) GPDWIN test World of Warcraft stand-alone version
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Settings.
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MJPIA said:
Resident evil 6?
800x600 resolution.
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4714409570

Monster hunter online, I don't think this one was posted yet but am unsure about that.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTcxMjg5Mzc2MA==.html?beta&

World of Warcraft 1.12.1, The only WoW I know anything about is world of warships but from what I gather this is the original WoW from back when it was released.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTcxMTI2NTAyNA==.html?beta&
FPS seemed to be around 25-30 most the time until the end of the video where it dropped to just above 20.
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4764914424

Settings.
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I think these are old videos. Maybe not even on x7 8700. And so, not even the fan version x7 8750, which offer a lot more performances.
 
Ah the RE6 video is a month old, I misread the date as being new.
WoW video is new at least and the MHOL video was posted on Tieba today as well.
 
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