The Latino surge in Brexit happened too?
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The Latino surge in Brexit happened too?
SocksAndShoes
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Wanna bet your avatar on it?
I think he belongs in show business,entertainment,reality TV etc.
He's wildly entertaining ,but also very dangerous..
He was never going to show it.
The tea party was an almost immediate response to Obama's election. They were around and one of the driving forces behind the 2010 wave.
DragonSworne
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Your insight that the U.K. did something completely idiotic so America will too is truely compelling.
Please tell us more.
Our population is not as white as England, so no.
TheLostBigBoss
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I wanna bet more on it
A lot of non-white people voted for brexit too. Mostly older immigrants from non-EU countries. The curry industry supported it, for example.
UnObtainium17
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Great read i wish there was a TLDR or an audio version for these millennials so they are even more motivated to show up the 8th.
What a fresh hot take.
Trump is openly racist so minorities at least are far less likely to vote for him.
Not to mention extremely sexist as well. Not having women support is what will be even worse for him in the end.
I'll admit that reading every Trump related thread on GAF I could find has entertained me greatly this last past year.
But no, it was entertaining because he was such a disaster and he was in the spotlight running for president, and he had million of supporters and was there even if I'd rather him not be, I had to pay attention.
But no, I'll be glad he's gone, and yes to me he will be gone, I'm not going to pay attention to Donald Trump anymore, he'll no longer be relevant to me just a loud mouth pathetic man with dangerous rhetoric.
batman2million
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I'm more curious how his supporters are gonna react.
Why do I get the feeling that some people want this to happen? Maybe they want America to make a mistake as badly as what they did, I don't know, but it does seem like some are almost rooting for it.
Regardless, it's not happening. It has nothing at all to do with what happened in a popular vote, in a different country, regarding a completely different thing. There are no parallels, not really.
The people who keep suggesting that same fucking idea over and over are definitely rooting for it to happen.
Lord Frieza
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I'm referring to the 2008 election.
Are you sure? I don't recall any reference to a Tea Party before Obama's election? I may be misremembering, though.
I'm sure 90% of 80's and 90's villains were modelled after Trump.
So we were in the unusual position of having some politicians currying favour through favouring curry?
No you're right on that. It started after Obama was elected.
I had my time mixed up in my head. It all blends together for me at some point.
Lightning_Roller
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I'm worried as hell, to be honest. I hope those assholes just mouth off and nothing else. But I have this horrible feeling in my stomach that a dangerous few will try some crazy shit. And I really hope they don't, gosh I hope they don't.
I think there is a comparison to be made between the blantant lies and outwardly racist rhetoric of the leave campaign and Trump's, but otherwise, I agree. I think a lot of people are just genuinely afraid of seeing another nation succumbing to a fate like brexit.
Yeah ok, fair enough, immigration was also a motivating factor, but yeah, two separate things. I'm ok with people that genuinely wish for us to avoid the mistake worried about complacency but so far there has been no indication that is happening especially in swing states like Florida and Nevada. If anything, the issue if immigration is rallying the opposing side (Latino vote) which is something that I don't think Brexit had the benefit of.
There's another plus to this election being over, these ill-informed Brexit comparisons can finally stop
Think that will be my favorite thing.
Omegasquash
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Likewise. I don't want people showing up at the polling station tomorrow and hanging out, asking questions about ID, or using any other forms of intimidation. I don't expect much, if any, thing like that will happen in my area, thankfully. I hope that there are resources for folks that are in areas where that threat has been made.
I have had enough Trump to last me ten life times. he can go back to his golden cave and stay there forever imo.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Go actually look up how Brexit was polling before the vote happened. It's tiring having to explain this.
I'm still extremely confused at the women and minorities who support him.
It's pretty much Stockholm Syndrome to me at this point.
You know what, the US electorate got a lot of stick from here in the UK for electing G W Bush but they will have the last laugh.
I reckon a 327/209 to Clinton. Yes pretty much the same as 2012 with NC going blue and VA going red, which frankly would be about right.
Sanity will prevail in the US. It didn't over here. Just because our electorate proven themselves to be fooled by a racist demagogue and a bunch of liars doesn't mean the US will do the same.
Now the Senate is the real race here now. The FBI investigation saga has cost them I reckon and I think it'll be very close to a 50/50 or perhaps 51/49 to the DNC.
TheRagnCajun
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More like some kind of cult leader/follower relationship. People are completely deluded to the point where he can do no wrong and anything negative about him is part of the liberal media agenda.
I'll give it a go.
There's been an exponential levels of anxiety for middle and lower classes as income disparities have shot straight up, poverty levels not being reformed making them higher that what they show as and the impending disappearance of what little manufacturing jobs there exist that threaten the way of life for many families that haven't aimed for higher education.
Not to mention the populist xenophobia being employed worldwide by different democracies as a scapegoat for the effects global trade has done to working families in developed countries and how their governments haven't supplied ways of incorporating them into their service based economy. Political distrust is way way way up worldwide and Clinton is the definition of establishment politician for the American people.
I don't think it's gonna happen since the orange clown thankfully squandered his chances by having a self destructive campaign but will still have support from a significant part of the electorate. But there's a lot of elements the UK and the US share in common and just disregarding them is ignorance, but they have key differences like it not being a direct democracy relying on the college electorate and a larger spread of demographics with different historical baggage.
Abortion and low taxes are a helluva drug.
Most republican women I know are basically that. The abortion issue means they won't even think about touching the democratic ticket. The promise of low taxes is like the cherry on top.
WiiredShawn
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The women are easier to explain.
1) Research shows that many women (and men) have developed a schema for "leaders" that only includes men, and thus reject the prospect of female leaders;
2) Some women think men are innately superior to them and defer to them (my girlfriend's grandma is this way);
3) Women are, in general, more likely to target their frustration at other women than men;
4) Women generally want harmony with their social group, and if that group is primarily Republican, their opinions will follow suit, even if it's not in their best interest;
5) Women can be just as bigoted, sexist and racist as men, albeit perhaps not to the same degree;
6) As the poster above says, many of them are caught up on single issues, like abortion or denying gay rights, which is correlated with their often fierce loyalty to religion, even if that religion shits on them actively (see points 2 and 4).
Granted, I think some of these apply to minorities as well (especially points 1, 5 and 6).
balladofwindfishes
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VA going red? That makes no sense at all. Trump would have to over perform his polls by 10% or more to win VA.
Did you mean Iowa or Ohio?
Which is ironic considering Trump's stance on the issue in the past.
His message changes based on who he's talking to.
I know, but I think it's more of a devil you know is worse than the devil you don't quite know. They KNOW democrats are baby-killers and always have been. They know the republican party is against it. Maybe Trump isn't as much, but that's still a better choice if you're as morally against abortion as some of the people I know.
Dubbedinenglish
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VA is safe blue. Kaine is widely loved there and even the Trump campaign has pulled out of there.
Fuck. Sorry I always get WV and VA confused (I.e think they both swing the same way) So 340/196 then!
Apologies to any Virginians I just offended by saying you'll go vote Trump tomorrow.
340 feels like the stuff of dreams and the fuel for Trumps nightmares. I don't see him losing that that badly. This election feels closer than that. But I hope you are right. I want him to do worse than Romney.
LegendofJoe
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The fact that the Republican party nominated someone so woefully inadequate for the freaking Presidency is infuriating to me. I would genuinely like to be able to consider a Republican for national office, but at the rate they're going I may be an old man when that happens. Please get your shit in order Republicans, for the good of the country.
The last thing the man needs is more media exposure after this election; you'd think we'd have collectively learned our lesson.
Let's not encourage this nincompoop to attempt running in 2020.
WiiredShawn
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I'm sure it will be called "Art of the Steal: How America Undercut Its Underdog"
Ghotwritten by Sean Hannity.
Let's dispense with the fiction that women don't support Trump. Last I heard if it were up to white women Trump would win - though not at the same margins as for white men.
echoes my sentiments
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