Or...he followed through with his pretty public decade-old desire to run as a Republican.
I know conspiracy theories are en vogue but let's not forget Occam's Razor
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Inside Donald Trumps Last Stand: An Anxious Nominee Seeks Assurance
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I know conspiracy theories are en vogue but let's not forget Occam's Razor
Lord Frieza
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I wish people realized how stupid this idea sounds. Trump wasn't a plant, Trump always wanted to win, and here were are. There is no conspiracy.
WiiredShawn
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Other polls indicate that Trump has only about 36% of the female vote, nationwide. Yes, most of those are white women, and especially uneducated white women, but when you factor in millennial women, educated women, minority women, and conservative women who are sensible enough to be offended by him, he's really not as popular with women as it seems. Which is why when you look at just maps for women as a whole, it's a pretty clear lean toward Hillary.
Granted, even a third is still waaaay too high.
Yes it does. Win or lose we get to hear that name daily for a very long time.
Im American but no longer live in the US. I really hope world and especially Canadian news can move on and stop giving this buffoon attention. So fucking tired of his shit. Go away. Go be petty and orange somewhere else. Take your idiotic followers with you. Make a new country and build a wall around it and all of them. Do whatever you want there.
Polls I've seen weeks back say the opposite of this. Do you have anything to support this claim?
BrutishMrFish
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Trump would never intentionally lose anything. His whole brand is built on the idea that he's a winner. On top of that, Hillary wouldn't make a backroom deal to run against someone who would whip up an anti-establishment sentiment because she is part of the establishment.
It's a really silly conspiracy theory and it's not real. Trump's incompetence, racism, and sexism are.
jufonuk
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I hope not , greetings from Brexit land.
Well you're not real. Or something .. nee ner nee ner.
That's about all the trump I can bare to emulate
I'm interested in his staff and the behind-closed-doors type stuff. Not Trump himself. Pretty obvious that what we see in the open is not too far off from who he is behind the scene.
There will definitely be two movies. The bullshit lies one and the one based on facts.
Vermillion
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Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.
I'm less upset at Trump really than the people who would vote him in.
He'd not have this much power if people would see through him and ignore him or laugh at him.
He's a sleezeball, I'm convinced it's mental and he can't even help himself (narcisist), but that certainly doesn't mean people should be considering him for leading a country (hell, he shouldn't be able to get away with half the stuff he does but money talks sadly and he was born with it).
Honestly, he's more a symptom of the Republican Party's insanity and in a way we should be glad he's at least exposing it for more people to see (people who before were believing their lies that the dog whistles were just the Democrats taking things out of proportion). I really hope this is what is the straw that breaks the camel's back to get the Republican party to implode. I don't think we should only have one party but that wouldn't last long anyways and the Republican party as a whole is toxic right now and having one party temporarily is better than having them keep sticking around. And no one is going to replace them or alternatively they aren't going to fix themselves without their party getting severely crippled.
Sadly, I blame Rush Limbaugh and Fox News (and in general that ilk) for the Republican party as it is now.
He'd not have this much power if people would see through him and ignore him or laugh at him.
He's a sleezeball, I'm convinced it's mental and he can't even help himself (narcisist), but that certainly doesn't mean people should be considering him for leading a country (hell, he shouldn't be able to get away with half the stuff he does but money talks sadly and he was born with it).
Honestly, he's more a symptom of the Republican Party's insanity and in a way we should be glad he's at least exposing it for more people to see (people who before were believing their lies that the dog whistles were just the Democrats taking things out of proportion). I really hope this is what is the straw that breaks the camel's back to get the Republican party to implode. I don't think we should only have one party but that wouldn't last long anyways and the Republican party as a whole is toxic right now and having one party temporarily is better than having them keep sticking around. And no one is going to replace them or alternatively they aren't going to fix themselves without their party getting severely crippled.
Sadly, I blame Rush Limbaugh and Fox News (and in general that ilk) for the Republican party as it is now.
Absolutely.
He would definitely take the hits on his businesses, his name and his future for some lols.
This is a great theory.
Hillary would definitely have someone make up racist, hateful, xenophobic rhetoric and go after her and her family with very hate filled and personal attacks.
What an amazing theory it ALL ADDS UP.
jufonuk
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I've just watched my country fuck itself over on a platform of lies sold by a frogged face man with fetal alcohol syndrome, xenophobic fencing hating papers and a public with no plan for what they actually wanted in the first place some voted because they thought their vote wouldn't matter it was all rigger and a bunch of politicians who seems to want to listen to these maniacs.
Conspiracy theories are all I have left
Raven117
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I also echo this sentiment.
Republicans have so much work to do....Im not even sure they can do it. They let the patient take over the looney bin. All political parties get tired of losing eventually...and once this threshold is met, we will finally see changes out of the Republicans. I don't think we are there yet...as it is show, the "Civil War" and the schism of the Republicans will be around long after Trump rides off into the sunset.
The largest part of the problem is that the only thing they're actually losing is the presidency. They win everything else.
Sadly I didn't even think about it but I think a comment on Reddit pointed out why it's so hard to get them out of senate at least. The way they get into senate disproportionately represents rural areas (think about it, 2 per state with many states being very rural so always going red. So the same representation for each state regardless of population. With more states being more rural and overriding what urban areas they have that gets represented more. But more of the population is in the less rural states, but fewer of them).
Superkamikaze
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Maybe the GOP gets their shit together after all of this. Maybe? Or a viable third party shows up.
Pantaghana
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pirateluigi
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FaintDeftone
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I have a bad feeling that he's going to win...
Netherscourge
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It's not just Trump.
Pretty much all of his supporters 'outed' themselves this year. If Trump loses the election, all of them are going to have to answer to their opposing friends and families for years.
They'll have to wrestle with the fact that they supported a man who has said and done terrible things, who is a terrible role model, who doesn't honor contracts, who is a misogynist pig, who may also be guilty of raping a 13 year old at a sex party years ago...
How can anyone live with themselves after that? Especially if he loses the election?
Company CEOs who support him are going to take a hit on their brands - even his own daughter is concerned about her father's scandalous background.
Trump is going to leave a lasting stigma on all of his supporters, win or lose. But MUCH more if he loses.
Pretty much all of his supporters 'outed' themselves this year. If Trump loses the election, all of them are going to have to answer to their opposing friends and families for years.
They'll have to wrestle with the fact that they supported a man who has said and done terrible things, who is a terrible role model, who doesn't honor contracts, who is a misogynist pig, who may also be guilty of raping a 13 year old at a sex party years ago...
How can anyone live with themselves after that? Especially if he loses the election?
Company CEOs who support him are going to take a hit on their brands - even his own daughter is concerned about her father's scandalous background.
Trump is going to leave a lasting stigma on all of his supporters, win or lose. But MUCH more if he loses.
Raven117
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Yeah . . . I think you are right about this.
The sad thing?
The answer is "quite easily".
Trump may lose, but their dogma and inciting beliefs have been legitimized by a primary presidential candidate, letting them know there are millions of like-minded individuals out there.
It's going to be hard to overcome that.
There would have to already be a third party poised to take over for that to happen (maybe one forms but it would still take some time to get enough power to overtake the R Party). The closest we have to that is the Libertarian Party (really the only current third party that is at all viable) who at least miss out on the religious crazy but still have a lot of the "fuck you we got ours" that the Republicans have. Hell... some of the stuff they argue for sounds like better dog whistles for what the Republicans have wanted while looking more reasonable (like on gay marriage it should be up to the states knowing full well most states won't allow it).
Still, I really don't like the libertarian party either honestly (I like the ideals they espouse of freedom as long as it does not affect others but I have found over time it's just dog whistling mostly and not whistles for what I want) but I'll still take them over the republican party these days. They at least cut out the more obvious crazy. And they seem less anti-intellectual than the Republicans. To be fair if they softened their views on things and weren't so hard extreme on stuff I might at least not object to them as much and I'd think they would make a fine Republican party replacement. But they are still have pretty far out views themselves as it is now.
Nope, the GOP will continue their downward slide. Just like they did in 2014.
There is not gonna be a viable third party.
Vegas bookmakers and UK bookmakers give him about 20%
I will say that until tomorrow night I will not be comfortable.
Could we believe anything his staff reveals, though? His campaign managers are such pathological liars and sociopaths that I can't imagine them suddenly joining reality the moment his campaign ends. They haven't broken character once! It's fucking insane!
Superkamikaze
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True. The concern I have is that if the GOP doesn't pivot more center, and Clintons presidency doesn't accomplish much of what's being promised, that someone worse than Trump emerges 4 years from now, and at which point will probably win by a land slide.
FelixOrion
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https://twitter.com/WordsOfSarah/status/795727763600789504
https://twitter.com/WordsOfSarah/status/795727904558776324
He's so demoralized.
It will probably be like that one forever alone flash mob prank
EatinOlives
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Jfc I cannot WAIT for this shitty comparison to go away.
OrangeGrayBlue
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Nah, it's not easy to unseat an incumbent, and the country is continuing to skew away from the demographics that support the GOP. Most of their potential 2020 candidates will have the stench of Trump on them from this election, and I think the further we get from Trump, the more poisonous an association with him will become. Like Strom Thurmond or something. Their options are probably Mike Pence, Marco Rubio, Tom Cotton, Ted Cruz, John Kasich, and perhaps another wildcard or two a la Trump this time around. Just like this time, it seems that their more sensible candidates will get primaried and they'll prop up some far-right loon as the nominee. I could definitely see 2020 being closer, but if 25 years of GOP propaganda hasn't taken Hillary down, I don't think another four will do much.
This is, of course, assuming nothing catastrophic happens while she's in office.
BreezyLimbo
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He said this in private or at a rally?
"She might have won the election. But for me it was a Tuesday. "
No, I feel guilty for having empathy in the first place.
Pamplemousse
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Charles Foster Kane
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I'm not from the US, but this election has been quite entertaining.
I can't imagine what it'd be like if Trump actually won. Scary.
I can't imagine what it'd be like if Trump actually won. Scary.
StrikeNinja24
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Ha, you think they are actually going to admit any of this and not double down on this mess.
Cat's out of the bag now, I expect these people to follow through with their "Revolution", which will most likely be short lived. There might actually be a Civil War, even if that's bit of a stretch.
Point is, these supporters are not going to go away after tomorrow. If anything, they will whip themselves into a frenzy and be even worse for a while.
And if Trump wins? Welcome to the new status quo.
Charles Foster Kane
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This gives me life
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Why doesn't he just stop beating around the bush and say "I'm a loser."?
Magnet_Man
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Lightning_Roller
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Yes yes. Squirm, you orange prick. Squirm!!
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