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[Zeusexy]

Her looks aside, anyone with a brain knows the game will be ultra woke and badly written like the lesbo of us 2. I mean, anyone except soyny fanboys.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

As I already said in another post: defending yourself is fine, but putting yourself at the very same level of those you despise is not so fine.

She got insulted, she insulted back and now she cries about it.

"she insulted back"

What she said: "you mad bro"

omg arrest her

 

[TintoConCasera]

"she insulted back"

What she said: "you mad bro"

omg arrest her

She refered to the potential customers of the product she's part of as incels with fragile masculinity.

Maybe not arrest her, but I would have fired her for sure. Must be that her boss agrees with her.

 

[mckmas8808]

Basement dweller? Son, you can see pictures of me and what I've done on this very forum.

The difference between her and me is I've had people actually try to kill me like other men and women out there. There is no pain here because I'm an adult.

Take your little boy attitude about the world that can hurt you with words and grow up. She is just another person like anyone else and will get shit. Oh well.

Now relax and put down your shield. Wow, we have become Idiocracy and so damn weak.

The little boy attitude came from you and your terrible post. It's as if you didn't even read the OP. All she said was that Neil told her to ignore the noise from people like you. Yet here you are talking shit about her, as if she hurt you. The mere fact that she gave an answer in an interview that so benign, yet it received some angry from you is wild.

 

[Topher]

Her looks aside, anyone with a brain knows the game will be ultra woke and badly written like the lesbo of us 2. I mean, anyone except soyny fanboys.

Eh....there are plenty of Sony games I don't care for, but I just didn't find TLOU 1 or 2 all that woke. And I thought the writing was fantastic. It's just opinions man.

 

[mckmas8808]

Her looks aside, anyone with a brain knows the game will be ultra woke and badly written like the lesbo of us 2. I mean, anyone except soyny fanboys.

Dude it's okay if games you don't like go on to make over $500 Million in Revenue. I promise you, your life will be just fine.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Ultimately the tide of what people will swallow up and eat shit stew for is limited.

Druckman and naughty dog have already burned most of their good faith from the fanbase and gamers at large.

So, this game will get even more scrutiny than most because of that.

Could it be a good game? Sure. But it has to avoid the pit falls we suspect it will do:
-Preach woman power
-White men evil
-LGBTBBQ horse shit
-Terrible story and or characters based off last of us 2

If this happens it'll be lambasted for it and wrote off like veilguard.

As for the social media abuse- don't hate the actors. Hate the retards who make these casting decisions AKA Neil.

Agreed with everything but I'm fine with woman power since I like a sexy chick that could kick ass like Blood Rayne, Eve from Stellar Blade, Baynertta, Ada, whoever the new girl in Wuchang or Tides of Annihilation are etc.

 

[near]

Druckmann threads are...

 

[SomeNorseGuy]

Main characters, main characters everywhere. These people have such high opinions of themselves that of course anyone who criticises them must be dumb, evil, racist, incels. Anything else would break their worldview where they're the center of the fucking world.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

You're supposed to shower them with unconditional love and admiration. How dare you critique the work of the "ar-teeeest" !!!

That's not being fair.

Druckman is a big boy and I'm pretty sure he's not only used to, but more than happy to receive genuine criticism about the art he produces.

What's being spoken about here is more than just criticism though. A lot of people online are fucking nuts and many are genuine assholes.

You cannot tell me that anyone sending messages to the voice actors and actresses of TLOU2, to express their misgivings about the story are anything but just fucking puerile assholes. Voice actors are not responsible for the story. I don't give a fuck how much Joel being killed ruined the story of TLOU2 for you, if you're venting those frustrations towards the voice cast, you're harassing them and being a fucking childish goon.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Druckmann threads are...

Out of curiosity. Why is that? Why pretty much mainly him? Why does he get such fervor where others tend to not?

 

[Revolutionary]

Druckman's lesson: always play the victim

 

[near]

Out of curiosity. Why is that? Why pretty much mainly him? Why does he get such fervor where others tend to not?

We take the bait. He is actually a genius, I love him.

 

[DeepEnigma]

We take the bait. He is actually a genius, I love him.

Please elaborate.

 

[Plague Doctor]

Informative and nifty guide how to avoid internet bullying.

Step One: Identify bullying on your monitor of phone screen
Step Two: Shift your eyes 7 or so inches to the left or the right where mean words no longer are
Success!

Expert Lesson:
Step One: Identify bullying on your monitor of phone screen
Step Two: Block said users
Success!

 

[Topher]

She refered to the potential customers of the product she's part of as incels with fragile masculinity.

Maybe not arrest her, but I would have fired her for sure. Must be that her boss agrees with her.

Hollywood would be damn near empty if they fired everyone who took potshots at others over shit like this. Druckmann took some subtle shots at those he disagees with in the past, but he has toned down the rhetoric in more recent years. Maybe that is a bit of wisdom he can pass on here. That shit is doing no one any good.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Any person who harasses an actor for playing a character they don't like is a piece of shit and the dumbest fuck alive. Period.

 

[iHaunter]

Criticism isn't Harassment!!!

It is when they're commenting about her appearance.

 

[Orbital2060]

He is right - I like what he saying

But I wish it was about something else than a bald-headed woman.

 

[near]

Please elaborate.

 

[sainraja]

Harassing a woman on social media because she's bald is pathetic tbh. And why is it ok for a man to be bald in games but not a woman? We don't know even know how the story is going to unfold either so hating on an actress before it even comes out is insane.

I think it was just an unfortunate result of the polarizing effect the "culture" war has had on everyone. We saw what the 'extreme' left can be and now we're seeing what the 'extreme' right can be. We're due a reset... everyone seems to be at each others throat. No middle ground nowadays.

 

[Topher]

 

[DragoonKain]

Here's the strategy: stay off social media.

 

[Bernardougf]

Its like a consolidated narrative script that forever repeats itself with this people.. Im so happy Im able to not give a single fuck or cent for anything made by this kind of people anymore.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Neil drunkman:

"i don't care, you fuckin incels"

 

[DeepEnigma]

Druckman's lesson: always play the victim

Or offer them a "bigot sandwich."

 

[Tajaz2426]

The little boy attitude came from you and your terrible post. It's as if you didn't even read the OP. All she said was that Neil told her to ignore the noise from people like you. Yet here you are talking shit about her, as if she hurt you. The mere fact that she gave an answer in an interview that so benign, yet it received some angry from you is wild.

Bud, I don't have social media at all, so I have no idea who this woman is. I know the character and it is ugly as hell bald. Again, just like any sane person, I don't buy ugly products and the game is just that, a product for me to like or dislike by my preferences.

I'm sure she is on social media and has slung shit just like the others on there. I don't care about her feelings because she is some random on the internet and in life. If she dies, get up tomorrow smiling just the same.

You're coming at the wrong person thinking I care about her as a human. I only care what she does for a product I may buy.

There is no need for attitude because this is nothing but a product. I call cars ugly all the time, just like the horrid bald main character.

 

[iamvin22]

A grown women asking a grown man how to ignore. 2025 peoole


I really hope this type of "help" isn't interfering with game development. We already have this guy working on multi projects plus a TV skit. Now he has to helicopter an adult women during production of a game.

 

[FrankWza]

Any person who harasses an actor for playing a character they don't like is a piece of shit and the dumbest fuck alive. Period.

I think that's where it gets misrepresented. If it's directed at someone sure. If people are discussing it away from that person and that person also happens to be a public figure it's not harassment. Don't seek out the negativity. There's always going to be negativity. Neil knows what he's doing

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

What's so ironic about this is that when people were throwing a hissy fit about her character and design, she posted a shitty meme trying to own the chuds and rightly got raked over the coals for it.

Now Neil Druckman is coaching her to basically respond to online hate the exact way she should have done in the first place, i.e. ignore it and focus on winning people over by giving your career's best performance in creating a character that really endears people, and many here are coming in and still trying to use this as an excuse to shit on Druckman.

FFS, Druckman is totally right!!! Both he and his studio are working hard on making this next game one of the best games they've ever made. He doesn't want his team's hard work flushed down the crapper because some ideologue activist voice actress can't help herself on Twitter.

He's doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing and hopefully she listens and things can get back on track for this project. I trust ND and I'm hopeful they will deliver. I know the gaming audience is just sick of all the woke pandering in gaming, but I think that also makes them hyper sensitive to anything that even remotely appears as such when it comes to game reveals; which makes them lash out in hatred and loathing as a knee-jerk reaction. But activist voice talent responding to that knee-jerkery with more knee-jerk woke idiot memes doesn't help anything. If anything it only paints a picture that the game will be more woke than what was seen; since it's the exact same playbook Hollywood has been using for reactions to their woke tripe shit movies. So, Druckman muzzling the oxen until the harvest is ready is the right move.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Yes. The top image caricatures were real, put out by them.

The bottom caricatures accurately redrew them to the critique they always carried about female character representations in gaming.

Aye, I thought so, that's just too poetic. They really have zero introspection yet these dickheads thought they were spearheading a movement..

Yet the only movement they maintained was one from the bowels

Absolute jokes.

 

[Schmendrick]

Oh boy that escalated quickly.....

 

[DeepEnigma]

What's so ironic about this is that when people were throwing a hissy fit about her character and design, she posted a shitty meme trying to own the chuds and rightly got raked over the coals for it.

Now Neil Druckman is coaching her to basically respond to online hate the exact way she should have done in the first place, i.e. ignore it and focus on winning people over by giving your career's best performance in creating a character that really endears people, and many here are coming in and still trying to use this as an excuse to shit on Druckman.

FFS, Druckman is totally right!!! Both he and his studio are working hard on making this next game one of the best games they've ever made. He doesn't want his team's hard work flushed down the crapper because some ideologue activist voice actress can't help herself on Twitter.

He's doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing and hopefully she listens and things can get back on track for this project. I trust ND and I'm hopeful they will deliver. I know the gaming audience is just sick of all the woke pandering in gaming, but I think that also makes them hyper sensitive to anything that even remotely appears as such when it comes to game reveals; which makes them lash out in hatred and loathing as a knee-jerk reaction. But activist voice talent responding to that knee-jerkery with more knee-jerk woke idiot memes doesn't help anything. If anything it only paints a picture that the game will be more woke than what was seen; since it's the exact same playbook Hollywood has been using for reactions to their woke tripe shit movies. So, Druckman muzzling the oxen until the harvest is ready is the right move.

 

[viveks86]

She refered to the potential customers of the product she's part of as incels with fragile masculinity.

Yeah they must have been be pretty fragile to find a cartoon meme insulting. "Potential customers" though? Lol

 

[PeteBull]

Any person who harasses an actor for playing a character they don't like is a piece of shit and the dumbest fuck alive. Period.

Bro, lets be real, not even us gaffers care enough for that baldie to harass her, who tf would wanna be anywhere close to that? Maybe citizens of Island of Lesbos but even then not sure, i think even those women prefer for the most part femine women
No1 cares so she does standard "reveal online harassment" move to get some attention, hell she so ugly i see countless women in my 30k ppl smalltown looking better every time i do grocery shopping, and thats supposed to be a celeb?

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Her official instagram photos and she still looks like maybe a 3, so well below avg, the only recent/new game protag that looks worse is that uggo from new fable, hell even Outlaws protag with that wet brush of a hair and weird face looked better =D
Just tells u how much of a DEI hellhole current hollywood is that such an uggo getting any job offers as anything else than comic relief
To prove my point even further, thats female protag from ME:Andromeda that became meme for being uglified vs her real actress, she is still above that uggo from new NG game:

Thats a 2015 game made for last gen consoles, 1,2tf xbox one and 1,8tf ps4 btw

 

[Tajaz2426]

Yeah they must have been be pretty fragile to find a cartoon meme insulting. Potential customers though? Lol

I was a customer of a lot of products. My two sons that are adults tweeter so they show me what these developers says. Calling folks ists, phobes, etc.

I don't buy Ubisoft because of their employees, Bungie, and a few others my kids have shown me. Even other products like Nike, etc.

I'm not some idiot that will tell a car salesman your car is horrible and they call me names and I still say, "sure I'll bend over and buy that from you".

That would just make me some corporation's bitch, right? If they could just call their customers whatever they want and still people purchase them?

There are plenty of folks that have been turned off by this nonsense.

 

[mckmas8808]

Bud, I don't have social media at all, so I have no idea who this woman is. I know the character and it is ugly as hell bald. Again, just like any sane person, I don't buy ugly products and the game is just that, a product for me to like or dislike by my preferences.

I'm sure she is on social media and has slung shit just like the others on there. I don't care about her feelings because she is some random on the internet and in life. If she dies, get up tomorrow smiling just the same.

You're coming at the wrong person thinking I care about her as a human. I only care what she does for a product I may buy.

There is no need for attitude because this is nothing but a product. I call cars ugly all the time, just like the horrid bald main character.

Okay, but what you typed here just now is different from what you said at first. But you're right, it is 100% your preference to like or dislike this product.

 

[Great Auk]

How FUCKING dare she stick up for herself.

She's sticking up for herself against a mythical foe.

NO ONE cares if she's a woman or "of color."

 

[FrankWza]

What's so ironic about this is that when people were throwing a hissy fit about her character and design, she posted a shitty meme trying to own the chuds and rightly got raked over the coals for it.

Now Neil Druckman is coaching her to basically respond to online hate the exact way she should have done in the first place, i.e. ignore it and focus on winning people over by giving your career's best performance in creating a character that really endears people, and many here are coming in and still trying to use this as an excuse to shit on Druckman.

That did happen. But she's saying she's out of the zeitgeist now. So is he pushing her back in? Why? He's not Stanley kubrick. It isn't to get a performance out of her in game, it's to get these comments and these discussions. He's doing it because that's part of his way of doing things. The comment in the OP appears present day not from the first trailer. Maybe the timeline got fucked up. Either way, people are talking about it

 

[mckmas8808]

What's so ironic about this is that when people were throwing a hissy fit about her character and design, she posted a shitty meme trying to own the chuds and rightly got raked over the coals for it.

Now Neil Druckman is coaching her to basically respond to online hate the exact way she should have done in the first place, i.e. ignore it and focus on winning people over by giving your career's best performance in creating a character that really endears people, and many here are coming in and still trying to use this as an excuse to shit on Druckman.

FFS, Druckman is totally right!!! Both he and his studio are working hard on making this next game one of the best games they've ever made. He doesn't want his team's hard work flushed down the crapper because some ideologue activist voice actress can't help herself on Twitter.

He's doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing and hopefully she listens and things can get back on track for this project. I trust ND and I'm hopeful they will deliver. I know the gaming audience is just sick of all the woke pandering in gaming, but I think that also makes them hyper sensitive to anything that even remotely appears as such when it comes to game reveals; which makes them lash out in hatred and loathing as a knee-jerk reaction. But activist voice talent responding to that knee-jerkery with more knee-jerk woke idiot memes doesn't help anything. If anything it only paints a picture that the game will be more woke than what was seen; since it's the exact same playbook Hollywood has been using for reactions to their woke tripe shit movies. So, Druckman muzzling the oxen until the harvest is ready is the right move.

 

[BigBeauford]

Just seeing how brutal people are with the TLOU series, and especially with its main character, it's no surprise they're trying to protect their actors.
It's messed up, because ND is without a doubt one of the few companies that has managed to handle feminism and inclusion with total naturalness.

Apparently this is also considered natural.

 

[Great Auk]

I think the issue is what that attitude and shaved head REPRESENTS. I recoil at the sight of such a depiction the same way I would recoil if I saw blue hair.

 

[mckmas8808]

I think the issue is what that attitude and shaved head REPRESENTS. I recoil at the sight of such a depiction the same way I would recoil if I saw blue hair.

Maybe.....that's the point. Neil didn't make her bald for no reason.

 

[ResilientBanana]

With that atitude, you can make whatever you want, as long as it's not money.

 

[zizou6971]

Are you kidding? Are you serious? This very thread has multiple people saying that they don't want to fuck the videogame character.

Every thread about the game when it was announced had many posters emphasising that they didn't want to fuck the videogame character.

quote them then if it was in every thread

 

[Tajaz2426]

Okay, but what you typed here just now is different from what you said at first. But you're right, it is 100% your preference to like or dislike this product.

No, it isn't. I was abundantly clear the character is ugly bald and that I couldn't care less about her feelings. People can call her an ugly bitch all they want.

She apparently is online, so she has chosen to put herself out in the public and the peasants on the tweeters and the facebooks aren't going to just eat cake apparently.

That's their God given right as long as it doesn't become physical.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

That did happen. But she's saying she's out of the zeitgeist now. So is he pushing her back in?

How so? He's saying ignore online hate. So, her being off social media, by extension implies he's encouraging her to continue staying off social media.

The next time they drop a trailer for the game, there will be a compulsion for her to go and find out from social media what people are saying about the game and if the new trailer has changed people's minds. So, Druckman's comments are clear... if she chooses to return ignore the hate. Head down and focus on making the best product they can make.

It's sound advice. Wish he'd said it before the first trailer dropped. Druckman himself is probably regretting that he didn't.

Why? He's not Stanley kubrick. It isn't to get a performance out of her in game, it's to get these comments and these discussions. He's doing it because that's part of his way of doing things.

I have no idea where you get this from. You seem to just be projecting, possibly because you just don't like Druckman. There's no logical way to draw these conclusions out of the comments in the OP.

The comment in the OP appears present day not from the first trailer. Maybe the timeline got fucked up. Either way, people are talking about it

We have no idea when the comments were made. They're being reported on now is all we know. Eitherway, it doesn't matter. The very fact that she fucked up the last time is reason enough to give her direction now. Maybe he's telling her now because they're planning on dropping a new trailer soon.

 

[viveks86]

What's so ironic about this is that when people were throwing a hissy fit about her character and design, she posted a shitty meme trying to own the chuds and rightly got raked over the coals for it.

Now Neil Druckman is coaching her to basically respond to online hate the exact way she should have done in the first place, i.e. ignore it and focus on winning people over by giving your career's best performance in creating a character that really endears people, and many here are coming in and still trying to use this as an excuse to shit on Druckman.

FFS, Druckman is totally right!!! Both he and his studio are working hard on making this next game one of the best games they've ever made. He doesn't want his team's hard work flushed down the crapper because some ideologue activist voice actress can't help herself on Twitter.

He's doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing and hopefully she listens and things can get back on track for this project. I trust ND and I'm hopeful they will deliver. I know the gaming audience is just sick of all the woke pandering in gaming, but I think that also makes them hyper sensitive to anything that even remotely appears as such when it comes to game reveals; which makes them lash out in hatred and loathing as a knee-jerk reaction. But activist voice talent responding to that knee-jerkery with more knee-jerk woke idiot memes doesn't help anything. If anything it only paints a picture that the game will be more woke than what was seen; since it's the exact same playbook Hollywood has been using for reactions to their woke tripe shit movies. So, Druckman muzzling the oxen until the harvest is ready is the right move.

How dare you get away with making Neil seem like a sensible guy and not an egotistical, customer-hating monster. HOW DARE YOU, sir!

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I agree, but in this case she decided to join the party herself:



Imo an actual adult would have known that the best possible action against internet retards is ignoring. Instead she decided to take it on the incels but now she decides to play the victim? Boo hoo. Sorry but I have no sympathies towards this kind of people, she can cry all that she wants.

Yup. I forgot about that straw sipping pic.

All that does is egg on the masses. And no matter how big shotty a celeb thinks they are, they will always get outnumbered by the masses.

Then again, it's a media person. They probably love all the attention. Never trust what they say on social media whether its political views or whatever. It may be the complete opposite but they say shit for clicks.

 

[FrankWza]

How so? He's saying ignore online hate. So, her being off social media, by extension implies he's encouraging her to continue staying off social media.

The next time they drop a trailer for the game, there will be a compulsion for her to go and find out from social media what people are saying about the game and if the new trailer has changed people's minds. So, Druckman's comments are clear... if she chooses to return ignore the hate. Head down and focus on making the best product they can make.

It's sound advice. Wish he'd said it before the first trailer dropped. Druckman himself is probably regretting that he didn't.



I have no idea where you get this from. You seem to just be projecting, possibly because you just don't like Druckman. There's no logical way to draw these conclusions out of the comments in the OP.



We have no idea when the comments were made. They're being reported on now is all we know. Eitherway, it doesn't matter. The very fact that she fucked up the last time is reason enough to give her direction now. Maybe he's telling her now because they're planning on dropping a new trailer soon.

No I do like his games. I'll be buying this day one. I'm just confused by how she was not online and he showed her what was said or was she online and then stopped. That timeline makes a difference. Was it in reaction to the first video you mentioned because she had to be online or in the zeitgeist at that time. I didn't read the article just the comments in the OP so I was actually asking