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iOS 10 |OT| Siri, you're free
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Garrett Hawke
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Ugh is there going to be another couple of months before OS X gets the Messages updates? Really frustrating.
Probably so. Which is odd, you'd think the almost simultaneous releases would have more feature parity.
macOS Sierra allows you to see messages w/ stickers and etc. but you can't make them.
Garrett Hawke
Member
wtf? Lmao
It's so annoying, bleh. I love my MacBook/iPad/iPhone triangle because of the seamlessness of it all. Having features arbitrarily missing on OS X really bugs me.
It is, but it doesn't support all language combinations yet.
Is there a browser were you can lock it in landscape mode?
Mistake
Gold Member
I downgraded my 6S. As a casual user this is what I took from it
Pros
-Faster performance, such as moving between apps, deleting or highlighting words
-Raise to wake
-"Look up" provides different language translations and other info
-Siri works better and doesn't get in the way. iOS 8 I had it on the lockscreen, but iOS 9 I took it off because it would turn on when trying to open the phone.
-Camera is easier to access on the lockscreen
Cons
-Keyboard is extremely annoying. When using symbols like apostrophe or comma, it no longer goes back to letters.
-Keyboard and lock sounds changed. I can barely hear lock when turned all the way up.
-Music app is a complete disaster with how ugly it is. Has five buttons on the bottom, gigantic fonts and images which causes more scrolling, and also lots of white space with smaller album artwork when playing a song.
-Using "look up" is also a lot more ugly than "define"
-Control Center and Notification Center both have two separate swipe screens
-Music controls were moved to the second screen of Control Center
I don't see why they felt the need to mess with music so much. It's almost as if they forgot what got them in the mobile business in the first place with this update. There is also a force fed pop up for apple music when occasionally opening the app.
Pros
-Faster performance, such as moving between apps, deleting or highlighting words
-Raise to wake
-"Look up" provides different language translations and other info
-Siri works better and doesn't get in the way. iOS 8 I had it on the lockscreen, but iOS 9 I took it off because it would turn on when trying to open the phone.
-Camera is easier to access on the lockscreen
Cons
-Keyboard is extremely annoying. When using symbols like apostrophe or comma, it no longer goes back to letters.
-Keyboard and lock sounds changed. I can barely hear lock when turned all the way up.
-Music app is a complete disaster with how ugly it is. Has five buttons on the bottom, gigantic fonts and images which causes more scrolling, and also lots of white space with smaller album artwork when playing a song.
-Using "look up" is also a lot more ugly than "define"
-Control Center and Notification Center both have two separate swipe screens
-Music controls were moved to the second screen of Control Center
I don't see why they felt the need to mess with music so much. It's almost as if they forgot what got them in the mobile business in the first place with this update. There is also a force fed pop up for apple music when occasionally opening the app.
Garrett Hawke
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I still think the dumbest thing about the new music app is that 3/5 tabs are for Apple Music only. If you don't use it, everything is crammed into one tab. It's bad.
I never watch videos in safari so i didn't even think of that. Was more thinking YouTube, watch espn, Netflix etc.
Nah I love it. I'm constantly changing songs so the bigger tap targets are appreciated.
Make it an option, fam
I refuse.
eyeball_kid
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I can't really agree with the negative opinions of the new Music app. I think overall it's a great improvement over iOS 9.
+ Everything is much more readable, with more contextual actions.
+ Easier to navigate, eschewing tiny text buttons for actual buttons or at least bigger text.
+ The additions of 3D Touch actions all over is really helpful.
+ I like that the Now Playing fullscreen mode scrolls down to show what's coming up.
+ So far I'm fairly impressed with the personalized Apple Music playlists in For You.
+ I also like the Heavy Rotation section in For You which links to albums I've been listening to lately.
+ The Radio tab makes it much easier to find and listen to archived Beats 1 shows.
+ Search feels pretty good. Decently organized. I like that they're including videos...are these being pulled from YouTube?
Of course it still has problems, but that's mainly to do with the Apple Music service itself.
- It still looks like a non-native app, as the pages stutter when they scroll (on a 6s).
- There's no longer a back button in the now playing overlay.
- It's very very white (give me a dark mode).
- Browse is pretty useless to me because it mainly features pop music acts.
- There's still no way to bookmark songs or albums to listen to later, nor can you easily pull up a list of favorited tracks.
- I guess I'm one of the few people who saw potential in Connect, but now instead of fixing the issues it has they've shoved it at the bottom of For You and it's still just as random and just bad, unengaging UX. I really miss the golden era of last.fm; I actually met some cool people who were into similar bands that way. Connect doesn't connect me with other listeners, and doesn't really connect with me the bands, either.
- Search is okay, but they still aren't syncing search histories between Mac and iOS, which is annoying.
- Many of the Apple Music features are still gated behind a requirement to use iCloud Music Library. I will never, ever turn this on after all the horror stories. I have spent years collecting and organizing my iTunes library, and have music which is not in Apple Music. I'm not going to risk fucking that up.
Yeah, in my limited testing it looks like only Spanish and Portuguese are supported right now.
+ Everything is much more readable, with more contextual actions.
+ Easier to navigate, eschewing tiny text buttons for actual buttons or at least bigger text.
+ The additions of 3D Touch actions all over is really helpful.
+ I like that the Now Playing fullscreen mode scrolls down to show what's coming up.
+ So far I'm fairly impressed with the personalized Apple Music playlists in For You.
+ I also like the Heavy Rotation section in For You which links to albums I've been listening to lately.
+ The Radio tab makes it much easier to find and listen to archived Beats 1 shows.
+ Search feels pretty good. Decently organized. I like that they're including videos...are these being pulled from YouTube?
Of course it still has problems, but that's mainly to do with the Apple Music service itself.
- It still looks like a non-native app, as the pages stutter when they scroll (on a 6s).
- There's no longer a back button in the now playing overlay.
- It's very very white (give me a dark mode).
- Browse is pretty useless to me because it mainly features pop music acts.
- There's still no way to bookmark songs or albums to listen to later, nor can you easily pull up a list of favorited tracks.
- I guess I'm one of the few people who saw potential in Connect, but now instead of fixing the issues it has they've shoved it at the bottom of For You and it's still just as random and just bad, unengaging UX. I really miss the golden era of last.fm; I actually met some cool people who were into similar bands that way. Connect doesn't connect me with other listeners, and doesn't really connect with me the bands, either.
- Search is okay, but they still aren't syncing search histories between Mac and iOS, which is annoying.
- Many of the Apple Music features are still gated behind a requirement to use iCloud Music Library. I will never, ever turn this on after all the horror stories. I have spent years collecting and organizing my iTunes library, and have music which is not in Apple Music. I'm not going to risk fucking that up.
Yeah, in my limited testing it looks like only Spanish and Portuguese are supported right now.
Garrett Hawke
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thank u <3
iOS 10 has multi-language keyboard, not sure if it has anything to do with machine learning.
But didn't they open Siri API to 3rd party apps including music apps?
Got the Shakes
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It's only open to these 6 types of apps:
"For iOS 10.0, the Siri API will only work with six kinds of application: ride booking (think Uber), messaging, Photo Search (find photos and videos in a particular app), payments (Send $100 to John with SquareCash), VoIP Calling (e.g: Skype) and Workouts (for starting health and fitness activities)".
Looks like it, can still disable in settings but not from the keyboard from what I can tell.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Hold down the globe icon next to the keyboard. Tap the green switch to shut it off.
Give it a couple days. New updates kill batteries because of all the indexing going on in the background of all of music, apps, photos, videos, etc.
still bummed that 3d touch is still kinda... pointless. i don't get why they can't just have those 'popups' like some android launchers do it with just sliding your finger up on an app icon.
where are y'all finding the most use for 3d touch?
clear notifications is nice, but thats about it for me lol.
where are y'all finding the most use for 3d touch?
clear notifications is nice, but thats about it for me lol.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
3D Touch best feature is scrolling the cursor between letters.
nabe_shogun
Member
Same. I keep doing it every time I try to unlock. I want it back.
Also the music app is way worse now, but at least there's third party for that.
nhlducks35
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ITT I learn people still swipe to unlock
ClayKavalier
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I use an app to pay for bus fare and iOS 10 broke it. Not the end of the world but I just paid $120 for a month pass a couple weeks ago, is there any way to revert to iOS 9 until they update their app?
Christoff Yurievich
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Yay, I get ratings back and the play counts track in iTunes. Thanks.
nabe_shogun
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Its the best way. When I unlock I usually hit the lock button, then swipe and enter the password. I don't use the home button.
Same with me. Haven't done that since Touch ID came out.
You may, actually. Apple has not closed the firmware verification channel for iOS 9.3.5 yet, so you could still downgrade to that version.
Download the firmware for your device first (it is available on many sites), then use iTunes to restore this firmware. More specifically, connect your device to computer, open iTunes, shift-click the restore button and choose the firmware you just downloaded in the new window opened.
Note that all the information on your device will be erased. Data not compatible with iOS 9 cannot be used either, even if it is backed up in iCloud or your local backup.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
http://osxdaily.com/2016/09/14/howto-downgrade-ios-10-to-9/
Hurry in case Apple stops signing iOS 9.
eyeball_kid
Member
Is anyone using iCloud Keychain? I've held off for a long time out of fear that all of my Mac passwords will disappear, but I'm tired of typing in web passwords on my iPhone.
3D Touch is much more than just the app icons. It's all over the place in iOS 10 apps. Try 3D touching on a photo in Photos, or a song in Music, or a location in Maps, a contact in Contacts. The biggest problem is that Apple has no way of signaling something is 3D touchable to users. So you just have to press around and see what pops up.
3D Touch is much more than just the app icons. It's all over the place in iOS 10 apps. Try 3D touching on a photo in Photos, or a song in Music, or a location in Maps, a contact in Contacts. The biggest problem is that Apple has no way of signaling something is 3D touchable to users. So you just have to press around and see what pops up.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
I use it between my iPad and iPhone. Works flawlessly.
Uno Venova
Banned
Keychain is a dream, you set it up with a text verification code, and then you can tap in any field and autofill every password for sites you've saved on your mac.
No problem, they should have stopped messing with the music app at 8.3.
That only makes sense if you don't have Touch ID.
If you do have Touch ID, press the home button and voila that's it, you're unlocked.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Disable Apple Music in Settings and it'll leave you with just Library, Radio and Search.
Now if only there was a way to disable Radio too.
Frostinferno
Member
So my girlfriend's 6 just went dead this morning (she upgraded to iOS 10 in the evening yesterday). It had been fully charged just prior to blacking out and now there's no way to turn the thing on. Tried several potential fixes but nothing is working. Anyone have any clues as to what we can do? Has anyone seen this happen to another person post-upgrade?
Next appointment she can go to isn't till Monday =/
Next appointment she can go to isn't till Monday =/
Like on my ipod. It's an extra button press every time to unlock the screen. It's going to wear out quicker.
New iMessage is pretty cool. Love the lyft/uber integration in apple maps. The prices are more accurate than on google maps. I hate the knew notifications, and dislike the changes to the photos and music apps. Not a fan of the huge night shift button either. I never disable it...
Swipe to unlock being gone is not an issue for me. touch id is so fast now that just by pressing the button I'm on the homepage
Swipe to unlock being gone is not an issue for me. touch id is so fast now that just by pressing the button I'm on the homepage
nabe_shogun
Member
This is on an ipod touch, so it doesn't have touch ID. Though on an iphone you're right, it is easier.
I'll probably just put it back on ios9 since it is just my ipod and not my phone.
yeah, 3d touch is 'around', but ive not seen how its make my life better? like 'peek' and 'pop' is often slower than just opening the webpage or image and swiping back to close.
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