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[Guardian Bob]

In one week, you're gonna jump ahead a whole decade!

The problem with me was I always wanted to wait until the next best thing... So it never ends. I have an G1 iPod Touch, so i'm not completely out of the loop.

 

[btkadams]

Nope.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4163/verizon-iphone-4-review/2

that's good! the link i posted was the only thing i found in a quick search so i just assumed. i'm a bit relieved, though i use a bluetooth headset a decent amount anyways.

 

[AlexMeloche]

Talking to the good ol' iPhone 4 users here. I'll be getting an iPhone 4S as soon as possible, and I was currently looking at case possibilities... Anyone has tried the Society6 cases? They have tons which looks absolutely amazing. I was also thinking about maybe the DIY ones from Case-Mate...

 

[Tron 2.0]

iGAF, help me out please. I'm on T-mobile and even though my contract is up 11/2 I'm pretty sick of my horrible horrible phone; I'm on a family plan with my fiance and she just wants the 8gb 4 (I want the 16gb 4s). We both want to keep our numbers, and we're not sure who we're going to go with yet (waiting to hear from people we know on other carriers here).

So - can someone pre-order if they're on a different carrier? Can they keep their number?

I don't think so.

So quick question before I confirm my order. My sister's line on my family plan is eligible for upgrade but is on a dumbphone, so I'll have to add a data plan. Can I just not activate the iPhone when it comes in, put my sim in the phone and cancel the data plan for her line?

I don't think so.

Just confirmed with my local Apple Store that if you order from Verizon and want to get Applecare+ you can just come into the apple store and get it after you get your device. They said that you could do it within the year of buying it. It is $99.

Looks like I might just leave my phone naked.

That's what it said in my order confirmation email from Apple, but clicking on the link gives you a 404 error. I'm not sure that is true anymore with AC+.

 

[CharminUltra]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I was finally able to order one!

No waiting in line on the 14th for me

 

[CrunchinJelly]

Just checked some of the UK networks pricing and the tariffs and phone costs get worse every year.

I think I paid about £140 for a 4 on launch day on a £40 a month tariff. 4S is £190 on a £40 tariff which is worse in every way than mine.

A real shame there is only the 8GB 4 left.

 

[Chinner]

is o2s tariffs up yet?

 

[RBH]

AT&T and T-Mobile have led the charge over the past year to brand their upgraded HSPA+ networks as “4G,” even though such networks historically don’t fall into the “4G” definition — and considering that AT&T is in the process of rolling out LTE concurrently, it can be a confusing message for customers to hear. That said, there’s no sign of AT&T’s network branding effort slowing down, but here’s a bit of a shocker: the carrier is apparently “working with Apple” to change the indicator in the iPhone 4S (which tops out at 14.4Mbps, up from the iPhone 4′s 7.2Mbps) to show “4G” in the status bar as well. That’s surprising considering Apple’s general reluctance over the past four years to bow to carrier pressure on… well, pretty much anything — and what’s more, the indicator will require an iOS update to enable.

We’ve reached out to AT&T for comment; more on this as we get it.

Update: AT&T confirms that the companies are indeed “working together” on it, emphasizing that “customers will get 4G speeds from day one” regardless.

http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/07/iphone-4s-4g-indicator/

 

[Animekatt]

So I'm finally getting an iphone after a harrowing 2 years with my Samsung Impression. My brother's going to preorder it for me at the Best Buy where he works. I will be getting a white 32GB at&t version.

I'm getting a custom skin made from www.skinit.com. I will have an Okami skin, making my phone nice and unique. I will also get a bumper, since I don't want to block the picture, and still provide some protection to the phone.

I'll post pictures when it all comes together. So excited!

 

[Technosteve]

The fuck? smh at&t

 

[Tron 2.0]

Wonder if they'll do it. Apple made a point of not calling it 4G at the reveal.

 

[partime]

I'm sad, not eligible until April of next year....

My wife and I switched phones, she has my iPhone 4 and I have her shitty Android. I did that knowing I will be upgrading soon.

DAMMIT I HAVE THE SHORT END OF THE STICK !@#*@#$I@#$(*@_!!+#!

 

[chickdigger802]

So has gaf reached the decision that 32 gb one is the one to go?

My iphone 4 is teetering around ~1 gb of free space since forever. About 400 songs and not many big apps. Navigon easily being the largest.

And with apps getting more and more crazy, I'm sure their overall size would increase as well.

And 1080p video... herrrrmmmm.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

is o2s tariffs up yet?

Nope. They are only letting existing customers get the first batch and it's in-store only.

Really shitty way of doing things, but ya know, O2.

 

[Double D]

So has gaf reached the decision that 32 gb one is the one to go?

My iphone 4 is teetering around ~1 gb of free space since forever. About 400 songs and not many big apps. Navigon easily being the largest.

And with apps getting more and more crazy, I'm sure their overall size would increase as well.

And 1080p video... herrrrmmmm.

I personally decided to go with the 64GB. I've got kids so I'm going to use the hell out of the video recorder.

 

[dream]

If you can afford the extra hundred dollar premium, go with the 64GB model. It could extend the life of your phone by more than a year.

 

[kaskade]

I'm wondering if 4g is going to work with the iphone 4s on tmobile.

Now of you look here it shows that they use the 2100 Mhz spectrum for the "4g"

 

[blitz64]

Anyone else with the grandfathered Verizon unlimited data plan know what it shows up as on your bill? I'm pretty sure I'll still have it, but I don't see "Unlimited Data" in the plan features list of my order confirmation.

Is it "CONSUMER PDA"?

Yours looks very complicated. Mines only contains 2 lines yesterday when I ordered. Here is what it looked like

Mines is grandfather unlimited data verizon on a 3rd line of the family plan.

 

[daegan]

I don't think so.

I don't think so.

That's what it said in my order confirmation email from Apple, but clicking on the link gives you a 404 error. I'm not sure that is true anymore with AC+.

Thanks man. Went ahead and qualified anyway so I don't have to do that next week. I might have to adjust the work schedule to make sure I get this...worth it

 

[Deleted member 17706]

So I'm finally getting an iphone after a harrowing 2 years with my Samsung Impression. My brother's going to preorder it for me at the Best Buy where he works. I will be getting a white 32GB at&t version.

I'm getting a custom skin made from www.skinit.com. I will have an Okami skin, making my phone nice and unique. I will also get a bumper, since I don't want to block the picture, and still provide some protection to the phone.

I'll post pictures when it all comes together. So excited!

I'm in the same camp, except replace the Impression with a Droid. Goddamn, what a shitty phone.

 

[NorrenRadd]

Currently on my own plan at ATT but want to get BACK onto my Family's Plan at VZW. I would like to keep my number.

Tried to pre-order today at VZW but they told me no dice. Pre-orders are only for 'existing customers'. Instead, I have to show up on the 14th and wait in line with all of the new customers.

I hate the telcos.

 

[KtSlime]

Wonder if they'll do it. Apple made a point of not calling it 4G at the reveal.

Unfortunately it is AT&T's call as to if they are going to brand that network speed 4G or not, other networks have done it in the past, and if other phones using this network and others are called 4G it really makes no sense for Apple to hold AT&T back from doing the same to the 4S.

 

[Solideliquid]

Unfortunately it is AT&T's call as to if they are going to brand that network speed 4G or not, other networks have done it in the past, and if other phones using this network and others are called 4G it really makes no sense for Apple to hold AT&T back from doing the same to the 4S.

Well if the download speeds of the 4S equals that of 4G devices ...

 

[Nazgul_Hunter]

Stayed up for a long time but finally got a 64GB white At&t 4S! My little brother is getting my black 4. I have a Pixel Skin HD case that I wanna switch up... I like how slim and low profile it is. Anyone got a good suggestion?

 

[KHarvey16]

HSDPA+ is officially 4G, and I think has a theoretical maximum download speed faster than Wimax.

 

[bob page]

How is Sprint service in NYC? I'm heavily debating switching to Sprint then offing my iPhone 4 and paying the ETF.

Also, is the only way to get tethering without the addon (via Sprint) by jailbreaking now?

 

[lupin23rd]

So has gaf reached the decision that 32 gb one is the one to go?

My iphone 4 is teetering around ~1 gb of free space since forever. About 400 songs and not many big apps. Navigon easily being the largest.

And with apps getting more and more crazy, I'm sure their overall size would increase as well.

And 1080p video... herrrrmmmm.

Have the same problem and feeling the same way last night going back and forth between the 16 and 32.

Let my credit limit make the decision (lol) and went with the 16, was able to clean off 5gb of stuff I didn't need and I don't use a lot of video.

 

[btkadams]

HSDPA+ is officially 4G, and I think has a theoretical maximum download speed faster than Wimax.

i wish the carriers would just be straight up with people about the speeds. telus's site says their hsdpa+ network can provide speeds up to 42mbps. i don't even know if there's a mobile device out there capable of downloading at that speed, certainly not anything they offer. why not say the maximum speed of what you currently offer? it would be like mcdonalds using the calorie count of a smaller, healthier burger from another restaurant.

 

[TommyT]

The Craigslist ads are going up!

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mob/2637887630.html

A white and black iphone4s. The new iPhone preorders to get by the 14 of Oct asking $1500 each obo

 

[Xamdou]

HSDPA+ is officially 4G, and I think has a theoretical maximum download speed faster than Wimax.

But is At&t officially unlocking HSDPA+ speeds for Iphone 4S users? They should advertise it so that people will opt to buy it from them due to the 4G speeds rather than Verizon/Sprint.

 

[ascii42]

I feel calling it 4G isn't quite right, but I do think it should say something there when you are in a HSPA+ area.

 

[Cloudy]

If you can afford the extra hundred dollar premium, go with the 64GB model. It could extend the life of your phone by more than a year.

I don't get this

 

[KHarvey16]

i wish the carriers would just be straight up with people about the speeds. telus's site says their hsdpa+ network can provide speeds up to 42mbps. i don't even know if there's a mobile device out there capable of downloading at that speed, certainly not anything they offer. why not say the maximum speed of what you currently offer? it would be like mcdonalds using the calorie count of a smaller, healthier burger from another restaurant.

Well, 42mbps may be the max they currently offer. Ultimately I believe it comes down to phones using the network to its full potential, in which case I don't think the providers should be responsible for changing how they characterize their network based on ever changing hardware capability. I think most familiar with any technology understand what a provider means when they quote theoretical or best case scenario maximums.

 

[Boudica]

Rogers no longer doing the upgrade policies for current iPhone owners like the past 2 years. So looks like I will not be upgrading to a new iPhone for the first time

 

[RBH]

Just ordered a white 16GB for my sister through AT&T's website.

Delivery date set for 10/14.

That was pretty easy.

So glad I didn't bother to wake up at 3am for this.

 

[Cloudy]

I've yet to get a clear answer on this. Would I be able to use a local SIM card overseas with a Sprint 4S? I sure as hell will not be roaming!

 

[Husker86]

Well if the download speeds of the 4S equals that of 4G devices ...

What's the top download speed that AT&T/T-Mobile have hit on their HSPA+ devices? (Not trying to lead anywhere with that question, genuinely curious).

 

[btkadams]

Well, 42mbps may be the max they currently offer. Ultimately I believe it comes down to phones using the network to its full potential, in which case I don't think the providers should be responsible for changing how they characterize their network based on ever changing hardware capability. I think most familiar with any technology understand what a provider means when they quote theoretical or best case scenario maximums.

i understand that, but it essentially makes their claims pointless and misleading. the numbers don't mean anything to their customers if nothing on their network gets that speed.

 

[nVidiot_Whore]

i understand that, but it essentially makes their claims pointless and misleading. the numbers don't mean anything to their customers if nothing on their network gets that speed.

It's not really POINTLESS.. people buy contracts to stay with these companies.. knowing your cell phone network is prepared for the future isn't entirely pointless.

It is misleading if they don't point out that any given phone won't come close to those speeds.. and phones should clearly state what their max speed is on the network.

 

[LyleLanley]

Any word on if you can use the sim card slot on the sprint/verizon version for a foreign provider when you travel overseas?

 

[btkadams]

It's not really POINTLESS.. people buy contracts to stay with these companies.. knowing your cell phone network is prepared for the future isn't entirely pointless.

It is misleading if they don't point out that any given phone won't come close to those speeds.. and phones should clearly state what their max speed is on the network.

agreed. i'd be down with both being listed: the network's potential as well as what each phone currently gets. it would require them doing testing but i'm pretty sure all carriers test phones on the network before they deploy them anyways. in a perfect world.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

Any word on if you can use the sim card slot on the sprint/verizon version for a foreign provider when you travel overseas?

Why would you not be able to?

 

[LyleLanley]

Why would you not be able to?

I don't know, I've never used a dual cdma/gsm phone before. All I want to be able to do is pop in my local sim card when I travel and use that number, I can't do this on ATT as it's sim locked to ATT.

 

[Mutagenic]

I only received a 5-digit order number through Verizon, and when I go to check on the order it says the order doesn't exist. Anyone else able to check the status of their order on Verizon?

EDIT: Apparently what it really wanted was my confirmation number.

 

[Vgamer]

Wow that is going to be pretty big for ATT if they can get Apple to change it to 4g on their versions of the 4s. I can picture the ATT iPhone 4s TV ads zooming into the 4g on the screen showing that its the only carrier with 4g speeds for the iPhone 4s.

 

[Cloudy]

Why would you not be able to?

BS Carrier-lock?

 

[giga]

Any word on if you can use the sim card slot on the sprint/verizon version for a foreign provider when you travel overseas?

You can't. Contract phones are locked to the carrier, even if they don't use a sim card in the US. Verizon and Sprint have their own international roaming plans where they give you one of their own sims to use overseas.

Ridiculous, I know. Only option is to get an unsubsidized unlocked one.

 

[LyleLanley]

BS Carrier-lock?

Yeah, because what would stop someone from buying a sprint/verizon 4S and then just putting an ATT sim card in there?

You can't. Contract phones are locked to the carrier, even if they don't use a sim card in the US. Verizon and Sprint have their own international roaming plans where they give you one of their own sims to use overseas.


Ridiculous, I know. Only option is to get an unsubsidized unlocked one.

Yeah, that's what I figured. I have an unlocked iPhone 4, via jailbreaking, and I just really want to get a factory unlocked phone so that I don't have to worry about updating the phone and losing my unlock.

 

[Cloudy]

You can't. Contract phones are locked to the carrier, even if they don't use a sim card in the US. Verizon and Sprint have their own international roaming plans where they give you one of their own sims to use overseas.

Ridiculous, I know. Only option is to get an unsubsidized unlocked one.

Isn't there a way to get them to unlock it when your contract is up?

 

[Particle Physicist]

In one week, you're gonna jump ahead a whole decade!

I have this phone:

this will be quite the upgrade for me.