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Kung Fu Jedi said:
I finally got around to hooking up my iPhone to my car's bluetooth system yesterday and when I used Siri in the car, I was surprised to hear her speak over the speaker system. Pretty cool!
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Yeah, it's awesome.

Unfortunately the MyFord Touch system won't let me activate Siri by using the wheel controls, but I put my phone in the cup holder anyways so I can activate it just by holding the home button...and then everything works as you'd expect. Car mic picks up what I say, speakers play what Siri is saying.
 
RubxQub said:
Yeah, it's awesome.

Unfortunately the MyFord Touch system won't let me activate Siri by using the wheel controls, but I put my phone in the cup holder anyways so I can activate it just by holding the home button...and then everything works as you'd expect. Car mic picks up what I say, speakers play what Siri is saying.
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Yeah, mine is a Ford Sync system, precursor to the MyFord Touch, and I haven't tried talking to Siri through the mic yet, but it probably works for me as well. Very cool for having it read out text messages to you.
 
I think my phone is defective. It gets really warm in standby mode, the battery drain is horrible, I have it at lowest brightness, location services, wifi, bluetooth, and icloud turned off and I still lost over 30% battery in less than 3 hours. This was with no use, just sitting in my desk, with lots of air in it.
 
Weenerz said:
I think my phone is defective. It gets really warm in standby mode, the battery drain is horrible, I have it at lowest brightness, location services, wifi, bluetooth, and icloud turned off and I still lost over 30% battery in less than 3 hours. This was with no use, just sitting in my desk, with lots of air in it.
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Do you use Exchange ActiveSync? That's been to blame when I've had rapid drain/hot phone scenarios.
 
Weenerz said:
I think my phone is defective. It gets really warm in standby mode, the battery drain is horrible, I have it at lowest brightness, location services, wifi, bluetooth, and icloud turned off and I still lost over 30% battery in less than 3 hours. This was with no use, just sitting in my desk, with lots of air in it.
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I'd say regardless you've got a problem if your'e losing that much battery and you've got that much turned off. I'd expect that kind of battery drain under straight normal use conditions (phone in use for 3 hours), but not with everything turned off like that.

Bring 'er to the Apple Store, I'd say.
 
RubxQub said:
I'd say regardless you've got a problem if your'e losing that much battery and you've got that much turned off. I'd expect that kind of battery drain under straight normal use conditions (phone in use for 3 hours), but not with everything turned off like that.

Bring 'er to the Apple Store, I'd say.
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Yea, I probably will, it's kind of silly to have to turn that much off to enjoy. What is this, a PS Vita? :P
 
Weenerz said:
Where is that?
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It's a type of mail account. If you don't know what it is, you probably don't use it, so never mind. The issue I've encountered seems to happen when a calendar item is corrupted and the phone gets stuck perpetually attempting to sync it, using large amounts of data and draining the battery in the process.
 
Need a little help. When the phone tries to sync with itunes, it says it can't because the sync session failed to start. Any ideas?
 
The Lamonster said:
I left mine charging all night and this morning when I grabbed it to go to work it was at 97%. Can anyone explain this?
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Meh that happens sometimes. I think it's more to do with an inaccurate reading. My MacBook Air sometimes says 98% even when it's been plugged in for hours.
 
Weenerz said:
I think my phone is defective. It gets really warm in standby mode, the battery drain is horrible, I have it at lowest brightness, location services, wifi, bluetooth, and icloud turned off and I still lost over 30% battery in less than 3 hours. This was with no use, just sitting in my desk, with lots of air in it.
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I haven't had any issues with my 4S, but when I upgraded my 3GS to iOS 5 last week, it was running really hot when I took it out of the case one day. I completely powered it down. Left it off for a few minutes, then, started it back up again, and everything was fine.
 
The Lamonster said:
I left mine charging all night and this morning when I grabbed it to go to work it was at 97%. Can anyone explain this?
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Mine's weird like that too. I left mine charging overnight, it was 100% when I snoozed the alarm, then when I went to pick it up before leaving my place it was at 97%. Never left the charger.
 
Gary Whitta said:
The first person to create a bluetooth Starfleet comm badge so I can tap it and give Siri commands will have my money!
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Will the jailbreak community give us the Star Trek computer voice for Siri? ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!!!!!
 
AbsoluteZero said:
Was it syncing via Wi-Fi overnight?
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I don't use iCloud but this was right after the alarm went off. Maybe there's a weird glitch where the alarm takes away 3% power, or just a 3% inaccurate reading...
 
So whats the word on the bad battery life? I thought iPhones were supposed to last 2 days without charging. Mine ran out of batteries when I got home from work last night.
 
I had the same issue except mine was at 99%. I dont get why it matters if it was syncing to icloud. If it's plugged in that shouldn't matter unless there is something I am not accounting for.

My battery is currently at 70%...50 minutes of usage and 4 hours of standby. iPhone 4 this is not when it comes to battery life.
 
No battery problems here..

Mine still reads 100%.. and I've had it un-plugged for 3 hours. Used it as an alarm plugged in this morning.. unplugged it before heading to work.. used it to play music in my car, and briefly at work.. did some light browsing on the shitter..

Still 100%.
 
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So whats the word on the bad battery life? I thought iPhones were supposed to last 2 days without charging. Mine ran out of batteries when I got home from work last night.
 
It's 11am. I took my iPhone off the charger at 8am. I've used it for 1hr and 11 minutes, the rest on standby. Battery is at 81%.

Is this normal?
 
I am guessing for the first few charges, the phone has to calibrate itself to the battery.

I woke up yesterday, pulled it off the charger, and it dropped 8% doing literally nothing within about 45 minutes.

then, it evened out, and 15 hours later when I turned in, it was down to 20% remaining.

Today, it has been much more linear, with no immediate drop.

So far, so good!
 
I should take the phone to the apple store on the way home from work today, but I want to play Batman, so I might push it a day or two.
 
I never realized, until I got the 4S, that the iPhone doesn't have a notification light on the front. This kind of sucks, in my opinion. I really liked having the flashing light to tell me when I missed a call or got a new email/text message.
 
I used my 3G for the first time last night when I wasn't near a WIFI signal. My 3G (EVDO) speeds were fucking terrible, that I can't help but think there might be something wrong with the antenna or something. Talking to someone is perfectly fine though. The speeds were erratic and very slow. I live in a densely populated area that has good coverage too.
 
Trojita said:
I used my 3G for the first time last night when I wasn't near a WIFI signal. My 3G (EVDO) speeds were fucking terrible, that I can't help but think there might be something wrong with the antenna or something. Talking to someone is perfectly fine though. The speeds were erratic and very slow. I live in a densely populated area that has good coverage too.
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Are you on Sprint?
 
One thing I have to commend Apple for is how quickly and smoothly this phone detects and connects to networks. Maybe the Droid was just a special piece of shit, but it would literally take 10-15 minutes to realize it was no longer within range of my home Wi-Fi and connect to 3G. If I ever went underground or in an elevator, or otherwise lost my 3G connection, it would take up to 10 minutes to reconnect to the network.

With the 4S, it damn near instantly connects to any available network. It's pretty cool to be able to step out of an elevator and instantly have network access.

I'm sure this isn't something unique to the iPhone, but I'm still very impressed coming from the Droid.
 
Karish said:
It's 11am. I took my iPhone off the charger at 8am. I've used it for 1hr and 11 minutes, the rest on standby. Battery is at 81%.

Is this normal?
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My EVO would be dead at that point. I say you are doing good and why I want my iPhone back.
 
Gary Whitta said:
Are you on Sprint?
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No, Verizon.

I'll have to check my phone when I get home ( I left it at home today). It was saying either 2 Mbps or .2. I forgot which. 2Mbps would mean roughly 200 KBps right?
 
Trojita said:
No, Verizon.

I'll have to check my phone when I get home ( I left it at home today). It was saying either 2 Mbps or .2. I forgot which. 2Mbps would mean roughly 200 KBps right?
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Correct. I get .2Mbps on my verizon too in boston. It is normal.
 
I think it's easy to get hung up on speedtest numbers. I'm on Verizon too and my numbers aren't great but all I really care about is real-world performance. Web pages pop up fast enough for me, and streaming audio is not a problem either. I think the only time you really feel the slower speed if is you're downloading a lot of data, which I rarely do on 3G anyway.
 
Trojita said:
No, Verizon.

I'll have to check my phone when I get home ( I left it at home today). It was saying either 2 Mbps or .2. I forgot which. 2Mbps would mean roughly 200 KBps right?
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Slow but consistent. Sounds like Verizon data.

I've found that it is slower than AT&T's highest speeds, but I've never actually felt like my phone was *slow.* Webpages still load fast, which is most important to me. But if I was downloading something over 3G, that could get old fast.
 
Tron 2.0 said:
Slow but consistent. Sounds like Verizon data.

I've found that it is slower than AT&T's highest speeds, but I've never actually felt like my phone was *slow.* Webpages still load fast, which is most important to me. But if I was downloading something over 3G, that could get old fast.
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Yeah it's good enough for my purposes, so I'm trying not to get hung up on speedtest results. Most of my phone's 3G data use is surfing the web and occasionally uploading a photo to Twitter or Facebook. No problems there. Occasionally I might download an app or a song from iTunes and if that takes an extra 30 seconds or so I reckon that's a decent trade-off for a more reliable network overall.

The only thing I miss in switching from AT&T is the unlimited data, but I miss the idea of it more than reality since I never even come close to hitting a 2gb cap. Still, it's nice to never have to worry about checking your data usage. If I start fretting about it or actually come close to the cap I will upgrade my plan to 5gb.
 
Gary Whitta said:
I think it's easy to get hung up on speedtest numbers. I'm on Verizon too and my numbers aren't great but all I really care about is real-world performance. Web pages pop up fast enough for me, and streaming audio is not a problem either. I think the only time you really feel the slower speed if is you're downloading a lot of data, which I rarely do on 3G anyway.
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I was getting 2Mbit on 3g before the 4S.. just like you are now getting with Verizon.

Now that I'm on 4S, and getting 4-6Mbit regularly with HSPA+, actual real world browsing speeds are significantly faster. It's easily noticeable.

My ping times are also significantly higher than before though, which also shave off time for page loads since any given page involves numerous requests to the server.. and Verizon does appear to have better ping-times than my non-HSPA+ AT&T of before. And there's the fact that the 4s simply renders pages faster.

But I've also gotten my usual 1.5-2Mbit on the 4S in some locations.. and it's back to relatively slow browsing at those locations.. so in my experience.. HSPA+ has made a difference, one that has fairly significantly improved my real world experience.
 
nVidiot_Whore said:
I was getting 2Mbit on 3g before the 4S.. just like you are now getting with Verizon.

Now that I'm on 4S, and getting 4-6Mbit regularly with HSPA+, actual real world browsing speeds are significantly faster. It's easily noticeable.
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I don't know how web browsing can be significantly faster than web pages popping up almost instantaneously, but okay. I'm glad we're both happy!

Truth be told I am a little jealous of HSPA+ and I do wonder if the new antenna design might have fixed some of the issues I had on AT&T but I just didn't want to take the risk, the call reliability on my 4 was a joke.
 
Gary Whitta said:
I don't know how web browsing can be significantly faster than web pages popping up almost instantaneously, but okay.
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Well, they weren't popping up instantly for me on AT&T 3g that tested near 2Mbit before.. they are now. If they are truly popping up instantly for you than awesome. The difference could be pings (latency) since web pages generally cause a lot of server requests. Although the 4S is also surely helping as well since it likely handles more requests at once.
 
Gary Whitta said:
I think it's easy to get hung up on speedtest numbers. I'm on Verizon too and my numbers aren't great but all I really care about is real-world performance. Web pages pop up fast enough for me, and streaming audio is not a problem either. I think the only time you really feel the slower speed if is you're downloading a lot of data, which I rarely do on 3G anyway.
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The one thing I tried was facebook which I tried to load a message and it was slow as shit, like not even consistent like it was getting a signal. I guess I'll check it again with other stuff tonight. It just seemed worse than 56K.

Is that highly rated Camera App worth getting?
 
I wonder if people with crappy battery life are folks who restored from a previous iPhone. I might try a restore and start fresh tonight. My work iPhone 4 didn't lose a single battery percentage point overnight (7hrs) my personal 4S lost 6%. Something's running on the 4S for sure.
 
nVidiot_Whore said:
Well, they weren't popping up instantly for me on AT&T 3g that tested near 2Mbit before.. they are now. If they are truly popping up instantly for you than awesome.
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From selecting a website to being fully rendered it's about 3-5 seconds depending on the site. I'm sure AT&T is beating that but honestly, if 3 seconds isn't fast enough for me I need to seriously reevaluate my life.
 
Gary Whitta said:
From selecting a website to being fully rendered it's about 3-5 seconds depending on the site. I'm sure AT&T is beating that but honestly, if 3 seconds isn't fast enough for me I need to seriously reevaluate my life.
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Well.. clicking "subscriptions" on NeoGaf for instance.. takes less than a second to fully load for me. The "Off Topic" main thread page a little less than 2 seconds.

I don't think it's a matter of NEED.. but it is a nice boost. Previously it was more like 6-7 seconds for me to do something like load a neogaf forum.

Since my average browsing session might involve clicking 20 different links those "saved seconds" add up to a better overall experience. But if I was getting as bad of service as you say you were with AT&T it's not a good enough boost to mean I wouldn't switch to Verizon.

Seems you made the right choice.. unless AT&T announces a major network upgrade in your area ;) I've never had call quality or dropped call issues on AT&T here.
 
Gary Whitta said:
I don't know how web browsing can be significantly faster than web pages popping up almost instantaneously, but okay. I'm glad we're both happy!

Truth be told I am a little jealous of HSPA+ and I do wonder if the new antenna design might have fixed some of the issues I had on AT&T but I just didn't want to take the risk, the call reliability on my 4 was a joke.
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I've seen my experience on AT&T improve. My number of bars at home often fluctuated for no apparent reason on my 3GS, but now they're solid at five bars all the time, and I doubt that AT&T has done anything to the tower in my neighborhood in the past week.
 
Depends on what you want to do, I guess... Some people were talking about streaming music from iTunes Match over 3G. 200kbps is probably too low to accomplish that without pauses. Really, any kind of streamed content will benefit from higher download speeds, i.e. pull-down maps for a navigation app, video, whatever.

Web browsing and email probably benefit little from higher speeds.
 
Zefah said:
I never realized, until I got the 4S, that the iPhone doesn't have a notification light on the front. This kind of sucks, in my opinion. I really liked having the flashing light to tell me when I missed a call or got a new email/text message.
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I am assuming you're coming from a Blackberry.

Speaking as a long time Blackberry user who just went to iPhone last Friday, let me assure you you are NOT going to miss the indicator light. I was terrified of that and the virtual keyboard.

Hahaha, yeah. I miss my Blackberry like I miss herpes. If I ever had herpes, that is. Ahem.

This iPhone is one of the best personal electronics decisions I have EVER made.
 
yeah the camera is amazing. the 4s is amazing. I'm loving it aside from battery niggles. its a nice piece of kit. Problem is I got the 64gb and its completely overkill

:P
 
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