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jts
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Slow as molasses. After jailbreaking and running a lot of shit simultaneously I think I saw a drop to 59fps one of these days.
iMore which has been dead on about this things lately is saying just yesterday iPhone 5S & plastic cheap iPhone 5 will launch in August. With iPad 5 and iPad Mini 2 in April.
Leaving the fall for the iWatch it looks like.
ThisWreckage
Banned
There's got to be more to the 5s than a simple camera and hardware update.
jts
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Fingerprint technology (from Authentec purchase), and the unicorn NFC would be nice.
Also, I think there's a lot of room for a real nice camera improvement. The 5 focused (no pun intended) to keep 4S' quality. Now it's time for an upgrade. Dual flash, lazors. The lot.
there wasn't for the 4S. well, except Siri.
jts
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People have to realize that the current smartphone vision is getting more and more fulfilled, especially in terms of hardware.
See how a 2012 laptop is fundamentally the same as a 2008 one, minus the speed and I/O bump, better display. It'll be the same for phones, tablets. We're getting to that part of the curve.
It's a problem mainly for manufacturers, because it also means people will hold on longer to their current equipments. But it's great for us.
See how a 2012 laptop is fundamentally the same as a 2008 one, minus the speed and I/O bump, better display. It'll be the same for phones, tablets. We're getting to that part of the curve.
It's a problem mainly for manufacturers, because it also means people will hold on longer to their current equipments. But it's great for us.
The speed bump is pretty noticeable these days.
I agree it is. but my point was that a "simple hardware update" (which usually equates to a 2X speed bump) and one extra feature is par for the course for a "S" updates. there doesn't need to be more to it if it's just going to be an "S" revision.
That is always the case with the S upgrade.
We are already there. I recently retired my old smartphone from May 2010. The bastard had a 1GHz CPU, 512MB RAM and a nice 3.7'' 800x480 Amoled screen. It could run everything in the playstore fine (except new games). I changed it because the battery was no longer holding a charge.
Ok, so I have a question.
I notice that angry birds has a settings pane in the settings app (seriously, iOS needs to overhaul this). In it, there is something called 'magic places', which appears to be a location services thing. It says that by having it on, it will track you even when the app is not running.
Firstly, angry birds does not have a pane in my location services, so I'm not sure how it can track if it doesn't actually go through that or otherwise bypassed the system-wide locations services.
Second, how can it track if not running? I know that apps can have GPS usage in multitasking, but isn't that technically still running?
I also notice that it has a notifications 'on' in that same angry birds settings pane, but similarly, it's not in notification centre. This nonsense is confusing.
I notice that angry birds has a settings pane in the settings app (seriously, iOS needs to overhaul this). In it, there is something called 'magic places', which appears to be a location services thing. It says that by having it on, it will track you even when the app is not running.
Firstly, angry birds does not have a pane in my location services, so I'm not sure how it can track if it doesn't actually go through that or otherwise bypassed the system-wide locations services.
Second, how can it track if not running? I know that apps can have GPS usage in multitasking, but isn't that technically still running?
I also notice that it has a notifications 'on' in that same angry birds settings pane, but similarly, it's not in notification centre. This nonsense is confusing.
The game isn't really tracking you all the time. If I recall Angry Birds is using iOS's geofence functionality (similar to Reminders). Which means if you move within a geofence location (Barnes and Nobel?), iOS will wake up and notify Angry Birds you have done so and "something" will then happen. But it isn't an always on tracking which is why you don't see it listed in location services.
And I think the other notification settings are a relic from the time before Apple had their own notification settings. If you turn notifications off in Apple's setting they will override anything set here.
iOS' Notification Center is all you need to worry about.
This is actually one of the advantages of the platform over Android when it comes to Notification Management. Android you usually have to go inside every app to manage.
I don't think the speed bump is going to be as noticeable this time unless we're talking games. Apple will need more than speed bump & gimmick to get people crazy about their next phone imo.
Thanks for the responses.
As for geo-fencing, I realise it isn't tracking you constantly, but technically speaking it will have to check somehow and update right? In reminders, a set geo-fence will page and run battery down faster, not to mention you get a specialised location icon (hollow arrow).
I'm not that concerned, because it doesn't seem to be doing anything, I'm just curious how it's supposed to work.
As for notification centre, shouldn't angry birds then be in the 'not in notification centre' area? Or does it ONLY appear in that area if I once had it on and then turn it off?
Maybe it just has its own notifications, but doesn't use the notification centre at all (and no push). I dunno.
If geofencing is a big drain on battery, I haven't noticed it. Of course I have chargers at work and in my car so I never really have battery issues.
Yes.
but expectations online are impossible to fulfill anyway. The iPhone 5 has a better quality screen, LTE, much faster internals, is thinner and lighter and feels better than the 4S yet was derided for being a "nothing" update online (nevermind that it sold like crazy outside the tech bubble).
An "S" update isn't going to be exciting. They've done them twice and they've sold well but their purpose seems to be to tweak an existing design and catch people coming off contracts form the older design from two years ago.
it's the new numbered models that are supposed to inspire gadget lust and get people like me to break contracts
This is assuming that Apple is making an "S" and not something they would want to call iphone 6.
Oh, and I totally agree that speed increases aren't as big a deal as before. the main place where I notice the 5's speed over the 4S or ipad mini is loading animated gifs, lol.
Yes.
but expectations online are impossible to fulfill anyway. The iPhone 5 has a better quality screen, LTE, much faster internals, is thinner and lighter and feels better than the 4S yet was derided for being a "nothing" update online (nevermind that it sold like crazy outside the tech bubble).
An "S" update isn't going to be exciting. They've done them twice and they've sold well but their purpose seems to be to tweak an existing design and catch people coming off contracts form the older design from two years ago.
it's the new numbered models that are supposed to inspire gadget lust and get people like me to break contracts
This is assuming that Apple is making an "S" and not something they would want to call iphone 6.
Oh, and I totally agree that speed increases aren't as big a deal as before. the main place where I notice the 5's speed over the 4S or ipad mini is loading animated gifs, lol.
Obviously I noticed a speed difference going from iPhone 3G to iPhone 5, but something I'm really loving is the seemingly excess ram. I hardly ever have to reload tabs in safari and several apps are still in memory when I multitask switch. I wonder if that would be noticeable from an iPhone 4S.
Mr. Wonderful
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Yeah, only reason I would want a significantly faster CPU is for future-proofing.Yes.
but expectations online are impossible to fulfill anyway. The iPhone 5 has a better quality screen, LTE, much faster internals, is thinner and lighter and feels better than the 4S yet was derided for being a "nothing" update online (nevermind that it sold like crazy outside the tech bubble).
An "S" update isn't going to be exciting. They've done them twice and they've sold well but their purpose seems to be to tweak an existing design and catch people coming off contracts form the older design from two years ago.
it's the new numbered models that are supposed to inspire gadget lust and get people like me to break contracts
This is assuming that Apple is making an "S" and not something they would want to call iphone 6.
Oh, and I totally agree that speed increases aren't as big a deal as before. the main place where I notice the 5's speed over the 4S or ipad mini is loading animated gifs, lol.
I put the iPhone 5 to the biggest test I have ever put it under last night. I went to a show and filmed the whole set. I started the night with 93% battery and filmed almost 90 minutes worth of video (10.3 GB) almost non-stop and got it all with 7% battery left. That's kind of awesome. I can't wait to see what it can do with a juice pack on it.
It also turns out to be really awesome for sound and low light video. It doesn't look entirely like a cheap cell phone video.
It also turns out to be really awesome for sound and low light video. It doesn't look entirely like a cheap cell phone video.
The Real Abed
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Yeah. Please no iPhone 5S this time. You're losing a lot of faithful iPhone users because of the ultra fast changing Android and WP7/8 market as well as BB10 trying to make some changes. So I really hope you have an iPhone 6 up your sleeve with a super awesome iOS7.
They may be losing some faithful iPhone users by staying familiar and simple but they're gaining droves of average consumers.
Most regular users actually don't care for rapid updates and tons of new features. They just care about stuff working how they want.
My aunty just lamented how apple changes ios withh each update without telling users. She's not tech minded but uses an iPhone and has now got multiple iPads.
Most regular users actually don't care for rapid updates and tons of new features. They just care about stuff working how they want.
My aunty just lamented how apple changes ios withh each update without telling users. She's not tech minded but uses an iPhone and has now got multiple iPads.
Agent_J
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yep, the average consumer does not care for updates. i see my friends and family with 1,000 unread emails and 30+ updates on the app store. hell, some are still using iOS5 because they don't want to lose their precious old maps and youtube apps.
looks just like Line, Kakao, etc etc etc
SuicideUZI
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which makes no sense since the newer google maps and youtube apps are both superior to the ones that were on iOS 5, but yes I agree the average consumer does not care about updating. Almost every time I look at my mom's iPhone it has updates available, luckily for her she has 4 sons
BolognaSoup
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Can anyone recommend a good OFFline maps app? I'm thinking about selling my phone and just using an iPod Touch.
How good would an offline map solution be without a location service such as GPS? I know you can use wifi to locate, but its not as good and I think you need an actual connection.
BolognaSoup
Member
As good as any paper map has been for the last several thousand years. I don't really ever use GPS, and certainly not enough to keep paying $100+ a month for it.
BolognaSoup
Member
How about a maps app for like a dollar or two since I don't use GPS?
If not wanting to search around your location, the best maps apps tend to be the ones with the best search capabilities, and those tend to be online ones that have much better overall searching capability when not limited to offline. (Read: google maps).
I'm sure there are some good solutions out there though. Maybe a local maps app for your region.
I'm sure there are some good solutions out there though. Maybe a local maps app for your region.
Community Forum
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I have my first ever Genius Bar appointment tomorrow. My phone seems to have dust in the lens or something, and now I notice it on all my photos. The Support Forums have stories of Apple just swapping it out for a new phone since there's no way to fix it. Here's hoping it is that easy!
As soon as they see that it is in every shot they will simply swap it out. You'll be in and out of there in under 15 minutes probably with a brand new phone. Well, maybe refurb but still good as new.
Community Forum
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Isn't the complaint with iOS that they never change it and has gotten stale?
silentspork
Member
Awesome. I wonder if they would let me swap for a white one instead of black
Probably not. It's a different SKU.
the complaint is almost entirely from tech-head users online who get bored when the UI doesn't change.
Apple still has ways to make iOS more powerful and useful - but messing radically with the homescreen to appease a subset of users is the wrong way to go.
Community Forum
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You're a different SKU.
Hello GAF. I'm getting a iPhone 5 next week, but I'm a noob in iOS related stuff so hopefully you can point me in the right direction.
I've researched online and looks like you can output 1080p mkv content buying the lighting to HDMI adapter (which is outrageously overpriced) has anyone tried it, how good is the quality? what is the best mkv player out there?
I've researched online and looks like you can output 1080p mkv content buying the lighting to HDMI adapter (which is outrageously overpriced) has anyone tried it, how good is the quality? what is the best mkv player out there?
funny you bring this up now. see below.
http://www.panic.com/blog/2013/03/the-lightning-digital-av-adapter-surprise/
you won't get full 1080p out of the lightning to HDMi adapter. it's compressed video.
not sure about mkv players nowadays but there are people here who've used a few.
Yeah as LCfiner mentioned, it's mostly the more tech-minded that complain about that because they've had the iphone since 2007.
It is a valid complaint, but regular people actually appreciate the simplicity. Ironically, it's these customers who don't really know better in general that care about what's important - just what the phone can do and how easy it is to do.
'regular people' don't complain because even know about the most of the poorly thought out features of the OS. the tech-minded know about the rotation lock and the app switcher and complain that it sucks. 'regular people' find the OS so confusing that they probably never stumble on the multitasking in the first place.
Look let's stop pretending that the unsophistication of 'regular people' is some justification for the stasis of iOS. fwiw Apple was able to make huge UI changes to their iPod line over the years and didn't suffer too much (if at all) for it.