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[Xe4]

Nice mod edit, lol.

I used to not get the flushot, not because i was against it but because they were really expensive. ACA reduced even the non-insured shots so I've gotten it for the past 3 years. 3 years I haven't been confined to a bed for a week and coughing up my organs and feeling like I'm about to do.

As with any other stuff like this, a lot of it is herd immunity/protection. The more of us that get shots, the more we protect people that can't get them or the shot doesn't work for them.

There are a lot of free clinics for flu shots, but only in cities, which makes it difficult for a lot of people in the US.

I'm not a stupid anti vaxxer but I never a yearly flu shot. Knock on wood but I'm generally fairly healthy and if I do get ill its usually during the summer for whatever reason.

I've never gotten a flu shot and I don't see myself starting. If I were in a risk group then maybe I would.

I'm not anti-vaccine I just hate getting immunisations.

Please get the flu shot people. You may not get sick or be able to deal, but others can't and die. Do it for them.

All I know is after my friend died from the flu growing up I have got one every year since.

Like this. Sorry to use you as an example, but people need to know how much harm the flu can do.

 

[GameAddict411]

I stopped getting flu shots because my body reacts badly to them. I basically get sick for a few days after the shot and I end up with the flu either way. I just wash my hands often and try to not touch potentially contaminated surfaces. I have avoided the flu for two years now.

 

[Red]

I stopped getting flu shots because my body reacts badly to them. I basically get sick for a few days after the shot and I end up with the flu either way. I just wash my hands often and try to not touch potentially contaminated surfaces. I have avoided the flu for two years now.

The flu can be airborne, and you can spread it without symptoms.

 

[Escargo]

I stopped getting flu shots because my body reacts badly to them. I basically get sick for a few days after the shot and I end up with the flu either way. I just wash my hands often and try to not touch potentially contaminated surfaces. I have avoided the flu for two years now.

I think you're triggering your adaptive immunity so you that you can have a stronger secondary antibody response. This is why your immune system may have reacted to the vaccine. They're still exposing your body to the virion. Someone correct me if i'm mistaken.

 

[Shiggy]

But the flu vaccine is just as important... Just because it's not 'required' doesn't make it any less so.

HPV vaccine is also not 'required' at this time, but it literally prevents cervical cancer. It's not like magical powers are bestowed upon it just by being required.

Mandatory vaccines are as much politics as they are science. The flu vaccine was actually mandatory for a while here in NY until a judge struck it down, but I suspect it will be mandatory again in the future. The HPV vaccine will also be mandatory, many states have bills in the works to make it so, once people get over the sitgmata associate with giving their child a vaccine for an STD

I trust the German, independent institute which is responsible for this 的ciao, much more than GAF posters lol
And the data seems to show there's not a difference to countries where its necessary. Vaccinating risk groups seems sufficient in this case.

 

[Valkerionseven]

I haven't gotten one in years either sadly for a handful of random reasons. But before I got them usually every other year or so after High school (maybe once or twice during). Last year was maybe the first time I got what I assume was the flu, my friend also got it. Felt like I was going to die for two days then eventually recovered.

Never something I really think about, even working with kids each day I rarely get sick from them, usually when I travel somewhere it ends up happening. Though last year we had a pretty good outbreak of flu cases in one of my schools well after I had it, about two months later.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Glad we cleared this up in the title.

 

[GiJoccin]

I trust the German, independent institute which is responsible for this 的ciao, much more than GAF posters lol
And the data seems to show there's not a difference to countries where its necessary. Vaccinating risk groups seems sufficient in this case.

I'm a pediatrician

 

[gohepcat]

The people claiming that they had any sort of reaction to a flu shot… You didn't. You just didn't

The method in which the flu vaccine works makes it literally impossible to get sick from it. I know that you believe that you have, and I know that you can find references to adverse effects from the CDC, but the numbers show it to be statistically insignificant.

Your flu shot is literally a photograph of a dead virus shown to your immune system with the instructions "if you see someone that looks like this kick his ass"

There is literally no reason not to get your flu shot. Just get the shot.

 

[SURGEdude]

I trust the German, independent institute which is responsible for this 的ciao, much more than GAF posters lol
And the data seems to show there's not a difference to countries where its necessary. Vaccinating risk groups seems sufficient in this case.

So you are saying that applying a vaccine that has a proven efficacy rate over 0% to a broad population has zero effect as a result.

That's simply impossible.

 

[Persona7]

If anyone is looking for a cheap flu shot you can get one at costco for $15.00 or even cheaper sometimes. You don't need a membership either, just walk in and go to the pharmacy.

 

[y2dvd]

Can we just have a flu shot primer to cover all the misconceptions and responsibilities and what not? Kinda alarming with some refusing to getting shots.

 

[Trokil]

Can we just have a flu shot primer to cover all the misconceptions and responsibilities and what not? Kinda alarming with some refusing to getting shots.

Refusing?

It's more like in Europe (same for Australia and New Zealand), in sync with the recommendations of the WHO it is not mandatory or even promoted and because of the European health system, risk groups get it directly from their doctors.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs211/en/

WHO recommends annual vaccination for:

pregnant women at any stage of pregnancy
children aged between 6 months to 5 years
elderly individuals (aged more than 65 years)
individuals with chronic medical conditions
health-care workers.

There is no recommendation for the general public and that's why the Europeans also do not have this Messiah complex on this topic.

 

[Joni]

So you are saying that applying a vaccine that has a proven efficacy rate over 0% to a broad population has zero effect as a result.

That's simply impossible.

He is saying that for limiting deaths and severe cases, focusing the shots on the risk groups like the ECDC recommends seems to wield very similar results to recommending the shots to the entire population like the CDC does.

 

[Pachinko]

I support the flu shot existing as well as support that all who are able should get the typical childhood round of shots. I do not get the flu shot myself but if I ever had kids or get to an older age or am otherwise in worse shape - I'll do it.

For now the flu shot specifically doesn't seem effective enough for an average jerkface like myself.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

There is no recommendation for the general public and that's why the Europeans also do not have this Messiah complex on this topic.

And yet here you are choosing this hill to die on.

 

[SURGEdude]

Refusing?

It's more like in Europe (same for Australia and New Zealand), in sync with the recommendations of the WHO it is not mandatory or even promoted and because of the European health system, risk groups get it directly from their doctors.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs211/en/



There is no recommendation for the general public and that's why the Europeans also do not have this Messiah complex on this topic.

Messiah complex? Holy shit dude.

I support the flu shot existing as well as support that all who are able should get the typical childhood round of shots. I do not get the flu shot myself but if I ever had kids or get to an older age or am otherwise in worse shape - I'll do it.

For now the flu shot specifically doesn't seem effective enough for an average jerkface like myself.

The thing is it's not really just about you, it's about limiting the spread.

 

[Toxi]

You are using a system which does not work for the flu, because if it is the wrong strain the whole system breaks down. And that exactly not the case with the other vaccinations.

So maybe not the hill to die on?

No, it doesn't break down. If the flu vaccine is only 10% effective, that's still 10% of people who receive it who can't communicate the disease to other people.

Also, this might surprise you: Other vaccinations aren't 100% effective. That's part of why herd immunity is so important.

Refusing?

It's more like in Europe (same for Australia and New Zealand), in sync with the recommendations of the WHO it is not mandatory or even promoted and because of the European health system, risk groups get it directly from their doctors.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs211/en/

There is no recommendation for the general public and that's why the Europeans also do not have this Messiah complex on this topic.

The general public can get sick from flu and transmit the flu to other people. Getting the flu shot means you have a chance of not getting sick with flu and infecting others. Sure, they're less at risk of serious symptoms than pregnant mothers or the elderly, and they're less at risk of infecting others than medical personnel, but at the end of the day, getting the flu sucks and giving it to other people sucks.

It's not a "Messiah complex" to have some common fucking sense.

 

[SURGEdude]

No, it doesn't break down. If the flu vaccine is only 10% effective, that's still 10% of people who receive it who can't communicate the disease to other people.

Also, this might surprise you: Other vaccinations aren't 100% effective. That's part of why herd immunity is so important.


The general public can get sick from flu and transmit the flu to other people. Getting the flu shot means you have a chance of not getting sick with flu and infecting others. Sure, they're less at risk of serious symptoms than pregnant mothers or the elderly, and they're less at risk of infecting others than medical personnel, but at the end of the day, getting the flu sucks and giving it to other people sucks.

It's not a "Messiah complex" to have some common fucking sense.

Somehow I confused your name with the fool who made this thread. I kept thinking, "I thought he was a levelheaded guy".

Turns out I was wrong and right. Glad you posted though because otherwise I'd have likely just assumed it was you. Not even sure why I got confused. Usernames that begin with T I suppose.

I'll keep it straight from here on out though. One of you has a spider avatar and the other just has cobwebs in their brain.