Is refusing to date people of certain races racist?

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Soapbox Killer said:
As a straight man, would I be a homophobe if I'm not attracted to a gay man? No, I do not think that would be accurate at all. What makes this a different situation with the given facts?


This is an interesting debate that could bring so meaningful dialogue and hopefully more understanding amongst different people.
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I think that's the wrong comparison because of how we're wired, nature or nuture, what gender you're attracted to is out of your hands.

What I'd like to know is why GAF is so hypocritical about other physical attributes being acceptable to ridicule and judge as "not fit to date".
 
Soapbox Killer said:
As a straight man, would I be a homophobe if I'm not attracted to a gay man? No, I do not think that would be accurate at all. What makes this a different situation with the given facts?


This is an interesting debate that could bring so meaningful dialogue and hopefully more understanding amongst different people.
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I don't think people are born racist, tho
 
Soapbox Killer said:
As a straight man, would I be a homophobe if I'm not attracted to a gay man? No, I do not think that would be accurate at all. What makes this a different situation with the given facts?
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What if youre attracted to straight man? Dont act like you wouldnt give Brad Pitt a dutch rudder.
 
Miles X said:
That isn't often called racism, but fetishism.



Sure, but they do a lot of damage for those that can see, and see it over and over again. Fine for those with thick skins but for those who don't ... not so good.
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I don't know if that is what it is. His first 3 serious relationships were white women(10-12 years ago). I don't understand his deal with white women, I think he finds them annoying or stuck up. He used to date Asian women also but he thinks he caught something from this Asian chick and as of now he won't sleep with any Asian women. I think he is just a nutter.
 
Soapbox Killer said:
As a straight man, would I be a homophobe if I'm not attracted to a gay man? No, I do not think that would be accurate at all. What makes this a different situation with the given facts?


This is an interesting debate that could bring so meaningful dialogue and hopefully more understanding amongst different people.
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Because race/ethnicity is inherently a social construct and sexual orientation is something you are biological predisposed with at birth.
 
Soapbox Killer said:
As a straight man, would I be a homophobe if I'm not attracted to a gay man? No, I do not think that would be accurate at all. What makes this a different situation with the given facts?


This is an interesting debate that could bring so meaningful dialogue and hopefully more understanding amongst different people.
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Not a good analogy my guy
 
MrRemyJe said:
Some people out there remind me of this gif when it comes to dating:

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And it's pretty sad.
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Actually i think her reaction is because she is a fan of the guy. You can see her smile too. But okay.
 
Soapbox Killer said:
As a straight man, would I be a homophobe if I'm not attracted to a gay man? No, I do not think that would be accurate at all. What makes this a different situation with the given facts?


This is an interesting debate that could bring so meaningful dialogue and hopefully more understanding amongst different people.
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I mean... I'd think that sexual preference based on what junk someone is equipped with would be different from skin color. It changes the whole flow of sexual activities you can participate in. I don't really think skin color would change what you'd be able to do with your partner.
 
Soapbox Killer said:
As a straight man, would I be a homophobe if I'm not attracted to a gay man? No, I do not think that would be accurate at all. What makes this a different situation with the given facts?


This is an interesting debate that could bring so meaningful dialogue and hopefully more understanding amongst different people.
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Assuming you’re not trolling, sexual orientation and visual preference are pretty different
 
RatchetWhiteGirls said:
I don't know if that is what it is. His first 3 serious relationships were white women(10-12 years ago). I don't understand his deal with white women, I think he finds them annoying or stuck up. He used to date Asian women also but he thinks he caught something from this Asian chick and as of now he won't sleep with any Asian women. I think he is just a nutter.
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Just sounds like he has bad experiences and moves onto 'something' else then. He'll be gay or asexual in no time!
 
Saying you wouldn't date someone because of their race is racist.

Also to those saying you aren't attracted to redheads. There are many attractive redheads out there. You just haven't found one yet. That's like saying you don't like sushi when you've only tried the smelly kind.
 
Soapbox Killer said:
As a straight man, would I be a homophobe if I'm not attracted to a gay man? No, I do not think that would be accurate at all. What makes this a different situation with the given facts?


This is an interesting debate that could bring so meaningful dialogue and hopefully more understanding amongst different people.
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Because sexual orientation is an actual thing. Unless you wanna claim that OP's friend outright refusing to date a black person makes him a marginalized social class.
 
Yes.

If you're locking someone out of any chance of a relationship simply because they were born black, or asian, that's racist. If there's supposedly some intrinsic thing about people of that race that you find unattractive, it probably isn't uniform across that whole race. You haven't met every black or asian person or whatever. I think that's even true in regards to just looks. I don't believe someone can simply not be attracted to ALL brunettes on Earth. You haven't met them all.

The other issue is, I don't think anyone can fully calculate how much of their preferences for look come from the culture in which they grew up. Can you really tell how much of your aversion to a certain race stems from personal preferences, and how much stems from growing up in a Eurocentric culture?
 
How is this thread still going? The answer was YES six pages ago and it'll still be YES six pages from now. I genuinely don't understand the confusion on this one.
 
No. Race defines looks. If you are not into the looks of certain people, nothing can help it.
 
godhandiscen said:
No. Race defines looks. If you are not into the looks of certain people, nothing can help it.
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That's on an individual basis; looks aren't universal across entire races. Flat out refusing to date someone based solely on their race is absolutely racist. Saying you wouldn't date a specific person based on the way they look isn't... usually... though it is still kind of shitty in a lot of cases...
 
Miles X said:
Do both of you feel those that put in their tinder profiles "NO BLACKS" ect are even ready to have a conversation about .... that?

9/10 you don't want a conversation, you just wanna bark at people.
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People being stupid isn't an excuse to not try to be better.

Soapbox Killer said:
As a straight man, would I be a homophobe if I'm not attracted to a gay man? No, I do not think that would be accurate at all. What makes this a different situation with the given facts?
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Sexual preference is known to have at least some biological basis. Also the social pressure in sexuality isn't about the object of preference but instead the identification. Look at all the men who identify as straight and then engage in activity that most people would describe as homosexual.
 
There's a weird amount of bargaining going on in this thread. Any talk of racism always devolves into " I may hold racist views but I'm not a racist." So instead of looking inward and examining their views they attack the word itself. Very weird but makes sense since no one is a real racist after all.
 
I think I dated all the main races. I certainly never refused to date anyone because of race but some of them refused to date me because I am half ugly.
 
godhandiscen said:
No. Race defines looks. If you are not into the looks of certain people, nothing can help it.
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...no it doesn't. People of any race can be ugly or smoking.

Unless by "not into the looks of certain people" you're referring specifically to skin color, then I'm pretty sure that's the definition of racist. So yes, you're racist.
 
I'm a white dude who finds black women to be one of the most attractive. I don't know how you would avoid dating them if you weren't a racist.
 
Yup. Its one thing to have a type but its a whole nother story when ypu block of a whole race. its probably ties to a negative generalization of that race, like believing all black girls are sassy. its racism in its simplest form.
 
Ecto311 said:
rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/Submit
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.





So if I don't find a specific race to have ladies (or dudes) that I would want to date I think my race is superior and fulfilling the definition of a racist? I don't understand how this whole thread is people saying yes when the definition of racism is a bit broader than not finding a race date material. You could not find your own race superior, shit you might not even want to date any of your own race and just a different one but be ok with all races as friends or family by this definition.

Maybe people of a certain race don't appeal to them. How is this labeled if the person won't date tall people or obese people? I really have a hard time seeing how this is racism. The heart, brain, genitals want what they want and that would feel like it's impossible to change.
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Yeah I'm split on the issue myself.
 
duckroll said:
Racism isn't just about hate, it's also about tiers. Say someone runs a company, and he has no problems at all with hiring black people, but makes it clear that a black person would never make partner at the firm. Is that racist? It clearly is. But he doesn't hate black people, he just doesn't think they are worthy to be more than just employees at his company. He doesn't see them as equals.

Recognizing stuff like this is so much more important than trying to make racism a thing where it is one extreme or the other. The majority of racism that plagues society isn't KKK/Nazi dudes killing and beating minorities. It is the average person who isn't even aware of how their bias plays into decision making and thinking it is fine.
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Swooping in to repost Duckroll because this is a crucial point that most people don't want to admit about themselves/close family/friends
 
If a certain skin color keeps you from finding hot people attractive, that means you're just not used to said skin colors. Possibly for a good reason, like growing up without them.

My advice: get used to them.

The Internet will help
 
godhandiscen said:
No. Race defines looks. If you are not into the looks of certain people, nothing can help it.
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Bullshit. I'm a white dude, just because of that, am I considered as attractive as every other white dude? As attractive as white underwear models to the morbidly obese?

Stinkles said:
I think I dated all the main races. I certainly never refused to date anyone because of race but some of them refused to date me because I am half ugly.
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C'mon Stinks, it's 58.765% and we know it.
 
Korey said:
...no it doesn't. People of any race can be ugly or smoking.

Unless by "not into the looks of certain people" you're referring specifically to skin color, then I'm pretty sure that's the definition of racist. So yes, you're racist.
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If you ask them to elaborate, it'll be "I just don't like dark skin" (it's always dark skin they don't like). When you ask them what about light-skinned black people, they'll say they don't like specific facial features. When you ask which specific facial features that all black people have that they don't like, you get a very vague answer, and then the dismissive "it's just a preference".
 
cpp_is_king said:
Related question. If someone *only* dates X, are they racist against everything but X (even if X is different from their own race)?
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If someone is explicitly only dating people of that race, then that clearly becomes fetishism which is its own problem, as you're basically boiling someone's attractiveness down to their racial characteristics versus anything regarding their own individuality.
 
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