entremet
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Wow. Nailed.
Is there not a term more annoying than Social Justice Warrior?
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cubicle47b
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I think 'cry-bully' is the new word for the original intent behind 'SJW'.
It's meant to be an insulting term used to describe people that care "too much" about social issues instead of the important things you should get angry about on the internet like video game review scores, completely accurate adaptations of books you like, and whether or not a costumed super hero looks cool enough. The things that really matter.
It's kind of vague and tends to just mean, "You consider issues important that I don't think about at all so you must be some kind of radical extremist." People insist that at one time it was more specific and only referred to a particular kind of progressive, but now it's sort of a catch-all for people you see as too liberal or simply liberal in ways you don't approve of.
I get that, but I feel like at least part of the whole "we're on the side of righteousness" means "I act better than the jackasses I fight." Judging people by context and actual meaning rather than shutting down like a bot edit filter because you hear a word does no one any service.
TwEE-N-Toast
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It's funny sometimes, when not overused. It's a pretty innocuous term that really riles up the paranoid McCarthy types.
Inferno313
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Yeah, I've overused that word in the past and been called out for it. A lot of the time, it's just used interchangeably with "racist" or "sexist" by people who don't want to go all the way and tell someone that their train of thought is racist or sexist, so instead it's just "problematic"
It's a term of endearment for someone who's about to beat you at Hearthstone
Griffin and Phil <3
Very firm conclusions. A hammer-like consistency, one might say.
I prefer the term "froggy shit" myself.
I honestly couldn't browse the net without that addon.
Wait, what? So it's a term meant to insult white people who are trying to support people who aren't white?
My mind is full of fuck right now.
Oppo
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I propose Social Justice Thieves
perfectchaos007
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_____ Culture
Why does every viewpoint have to be a culture these days?
Why does every viewpoint have to be a culture these days?
Vampire On Titus
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Actually "Sea-Lioning" is the worst term around. I've seen it used more frequently on twitter lately. Seems like it started as a way of calling out concern trolls. Now it's used for blanket dismissal of anyone who asks someone to explain themselves or support with evidence.
Also it's phonetically awkward so even saying or reading it is annoying.
Also it's phonetically awkward so even saying or reading it is annoying.
DarkHeartedKill
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I only used toon when I played toon town...for obvious reasons.
I like rig though, what's the matter with rig?
Shuggananas
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Lol talk about hyperbole
Its a stupid and annoying expression but it's nowhere near as offensive as some slurs (don't think I need to quote them), and I bet you don't have an add-on to block these
Gordon Shumway
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Palette Swap
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After that fateful thread last year, I am myself at war against Lamb Sucks Culture.
Culture wars.
I hate this, and "man-[anything]", "manscaping"? "Mansplaining"? they're al cringey as hell, but it's extra cringey when added to something so insecure dorks can feel their masculinity is safe.
This one too.
Also!
"Normie" and "Cuck" are among the most pathetic words people are unironically spouting lately in the internet.
cubicle47b
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Normie? I've never seen this. (is this just on 4chan?)
God Dayumm
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#Body positive
*goes ahead and calls attractive women skinny bitches and then makes fun of men
*goes ahead and calls attractive women skinny bitches and then makes fun of men
Shuggananas
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4chan word for plebs
Doubt anybody uses it seriously
It's from the sea lion's loud-ass "bark". They'll sit in the back of a bay just to amplify that shit out across miles of water.
It's a term for amplifying negative posts in order to generate harassment.
BreezyLimbo
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What's wrong with Queen
Shuggananas
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And manlets, the two favorite words of the most unsecure morons on the web who need to feel superior based on some arbitrary measurements
Inferno313
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One of these is not like the other...
"Mansplaining" is a term coined by feminists to refer to the practice of dudes patronizingly talking over them and explaining things to them as if they're children. Like this dude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HI4DC18wCg
I agree that "man" culture is so gross though, like why do I need "Soap FOR MEN."
It doesn't bother me, neither did hipster. They seem pretty mild as far as insults go. It's alright to poke fun at others and make up silly names for them, but if I get met with the same treatment, it's suddenly, "whoa man not lol". To me, it's just the same run of the mill internet slang we've had forever from n00b to neckbeard.
radios shipping overview
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And yet it sounds even more inflammatory.
It sucks that internet communication gets boiled down to filtering based on jargon, but it tends to happen more often than not, especially on big and active forums like this one. People use jargon or shibboleths to demonstrate that they associate with a point of view, and those terms can demonstrate to outsiders the general gist of what that group believes.
I agree that it'd be much better if we could all just speak to each other in plain terms about how we feel and what makes us feel that way. But people like to use easy ways to feel like they're part of a group that they identify with. If you're trying to speak in such a way that your intent won't be inferred by your vocabulary, then it's probably best to avoid jargon that's used by groups in that way.
Sapiens
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Oh, god "manliness" marketing is seriously horrible. I can't take it any more.
Dusk Soldier
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Not really. no.
A "Men's Rights Activist" is someone who fights against feminism being used to infringe on the rights of men.
A "Social Justice Warrior" is someone who uses social media to debate/discuss various social issues.
Of course there can be overlap, but they're not explicitly the same thing.
Calling someone a SJW is basically calling them out as being hypocritical, naive and/or too idealistic.
A SJW is someone who may come across as very authoritative or passionate about a social issue on the internet, but in a real world setting they just go with flow.
Can be kind of a chicken and egg thing though as it's much easier to engage on social issues in an internet setting.
The whole cuck thing is bizarre. It seems part sexual fantasy, part god knows what.
On one of the more popular chans for these guys, I saw a discussion on a porn board about how these guys hate interracial porn, mainly white woman, black male couplings but couldn't stop themselves masturbating to it.
one guy even went as far as to do a thread on the board comprised of pictures and videos of black guys bending over for gay sex with white guys.
That's some dedication the 'cause'.
CloudyTuba
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These describe how I understood the term. I'm often caught off guard on the internet by how quickly certain words and ideas get overused and abused and I can't keep up. In my head the term still refers to people like those tumblr extremists who write an entire essay about how the person who briefly glanced at them at the coffee shop and smiled needs to be locked in a cage or some crazy shit. People who make it their full time job to intentionally find things to be offended by.
But from what I gather it apparently is now just a derogatory term applied to anyone you disagree with as a "get out of logic free" card. I guess my dictionary is out of date.
I've been similarly confused about the use of the term MRA. I came to understand it as people who want to tackle practical male issues, for example parks/theme parks not having changing tables in the mens bathrooms, ignoring single dads. But it seems it is now used as a term referring to women-haters, possibly because actual woman-haters flocked to the group due to its name/focus. But then what happens to the people who legitimately want to tackle male issues in a reasonable way? Do they automatically get labelled as woman-haters like the rest?
The internet is confusing.
I intentionally brought mansplaining with it because it bothers me as much as the others even if it's in the entire opposite side of the spectrum, same for "manspreading", i just think adding man to words is dumb and cringey. Unless it's super hero names i guess.
You could be surprised.
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I don't know if the meaning has mutated, but it showed up in the aftermath of Gamergate and was coined to refer to random people who show up in your Twitter mentions looking to debate you on something (usually related to social justice or directly related to GG).
Spyder_Monkey
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No they don't.
Yeah, this set me back too
If that's what it's supposed to mean, it's not actually what the initial Sea Lion comic actually elucidated: http://wondermark.com/1k62/
True. I guess it also speaks to the question of who ultimately gets to decide the meaning of your wordsif you're misunderstood, even if you're objectively "correct", is there any moral issue there, or is it merely a pragmatic one. Like the whole kerfuffle during the Freddie Gray riots about "thug"is the onus on the people reacting to the word to understand the context, or the speaker to avoid it on the chance it will be construed as a racist dog-whistle?
QuantumZebra
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I have *never* seen someone in the use of the internet using SJW in a non-ironic way that wasn't about to go on a prejudiced/misogynistic/racist rant, or was already in the middle of one.
I feel like "problematic" is a word that's meant to signify "there are things wrong with this, but I still like a lot about it as a whole, so I don't want to call it shitty." It's meant to be a less aggressive term, but you're supposed to clarify about what aspect of whatever is being discussed you take issue with. I feel like it evolved as an attempt to stop having conversations derailed with the idea that if you are criticizing any aspect of something, you must hate it completely and so probably shouldn't talk about it. (Also not really a fair assumption, but common.)
But then I feel like most of the time when I see the word problematic come up, it's in the context of someone talking about a show, video game, book, or whatever that they absolutely love that has a super sketchy moment in it that makes them feel bad about how much they like it, so they want to parse it out and acknowledge that they see the shittiness.
For instance, the way asian characters in the first season of Daredevil are either victims or villains (with slightly weird exoticized undertones) is an issue. But if I just say "this is a problem," it almost sounds like Daredevil wasn't one of my favorite shows last year.
But yes, it's been over-used to the point that it has lost a lot of that intended tone, I think.
But then I feel like most of the time when I see the word problematic come up, it's in the context of someone talking about a show, video game, book, or whatever that they absolutely love that has a super sketchy moment in it that makes them feel bad about how much they like it, so they want to parse it out and acknowledge that they see the shittiness.
For instance, the way asian characters in the first season of Daredevil are either victims or villains (with slightly weird exoticized undertones) is an issue. But if I just say "this is a problem," it almost sounds like Daredevil wasn't one of my favorite shows last year.
But yes, it's been over-used to the point that it has lost a lot of that intended tone, I think.
Inferno313
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Another good one is "___(Usually PC) Master Race."
It just makes you seem pompous and obnoxious, not to mention it's a weird appropriation of nazi terminology.
It just makes you seem pompous and obnoxious, not to mention it's a weird appropriation of nazi terminology.
Constantly casting Refresh on those damn feminists!
cubicle47b
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Oh, how about 'Bernie Bros'.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Its just a part of the bullshit of toxic masculinity.
Stuff like SJW and Outrage Culture are typically used by people who either fall under the umbrella of gamergate or people who don't want their insulated, usually outdated viewpoints challenged by outside thinking.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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MRAs have never actually done anything.
Using the medieval warrior imagery, they'd more accurately be compared to the children hiding underground during the war.
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