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[Vampire On Titus]

It's from the sea lion's loud-ass "bark". They'll sit in the back of a bay just to amplify that shit out across miles of water.

It's a term for amplifying negative posts in order to generate harassment.

I thought it came from this comic. Not entirely sure what you mean by amplifying negative posts but it just seems like concern trolling. Feigning polite-ness with the actual intention of undermining a conversation.

"Normie" and "Cuck" are among the most pathetic words people are unironically spouting lately in the internet.

Normie... man. The first time I heard that shit my friend Kevin used it at a Diner. He was using it to describe the story of someone's Twitter meltdown. Wherein which, at a party, this dude devised a scheme to

Spoiler

ejaculate in an untended bowl of cake batter

as a way of "punishing normies."

I was actually more shocked at the word and it's use than the events of the story. It's like a calling card for the proudly destitute.

 

[Sushi Nao]

If that's what it's supposed to mean, it's not actually what the initial Sea Lion comic actually elucidated: http://wondermark.com/1k62/

Haha, that's hilarious. You're honestly probably right, I've seen it used in a sense that equates to the same result - shitty rando pile-on - and I didn't check my ocean-living bias. Thanks

 

[Sane_Man]

Yeah it's pretty annoying. I find people sticking 'Gate' after everything the most annoying though. Gamergate, etc. Think of something new please.

 

[TouchMyBox]

Don't forget "Kek".

So many people around me use this one, and then I finally looked up its origins and I was greatly ashamed of my friends.

Yeah it's pretty annoying. I find people sticking 'Gate' after everything the most annoying though. Gamergate, etc. Think of something new please.

But this dumb thing that happened on the internet is big and important just like the watergate scandal! Pay attention to us!

 

[entremet]

Its just a part of the bullshit of toxic masculinity.


Stuff like SJW and Outrage Culture are typically used by people who either fall under the umbrella of gamergate or people who don't want their insulated, usually outdated viewpoints challenged by outside thinking.

No it's not.

It's just a silly term. I personally don't care to the term, but not because of anything gendered. It just sounds dumb.

I'd argue that men with actual man caves are more egalitarian in their thinking. Man caves are a very middle and upper middle class thing and studies have shown that those groups tend to be most progressive in terms of gender politics.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

I think it can be applicable to someone who's clearly patting themselves on the back and think they are making a difference in the world by ranting about a meme that made them upset.


Or comments like, "It's 2016! Aren't you embarrassed!?" because a piece of media doesn't fit your ideal mold of diversity and gender.
When I read articles that we shouldn't go watch Jurassic World because it's incredibly sexist, I'm probably going to roll my eyes.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

Constantly casting Refresh on those damn feminists!

If the feminists would just sub Red Mage then they could cast it on themselves.

 

[Grover]

as someone who cares about social justice (or w/e you'd like to call it), i dont think the term is annoying in the slightest

What's wrong with man cave?

nothing wrong with mine, smells fine

 

[RedNumberFive]

I think it can be applicable to someone who's clearly patting themselves on the back and think they are making a difference in the world by ranting about a meme that made them upset.

Yup. If it gets slacktivists riled up, I'm all for it.

 

[PSqueak]

I have *never* seen someone in the use of the internet using SJW in a non-ironic way that wasn't about to go on a prejudiced/misogynistic/racist rant, or was already in the middle of one.

a couple of years ago people used to unironically call themselves SJW, until a mix of kids making bad calls and MRA types came down and ruined it for everyone, nowadays it's only used by the later group.

Oh, how about 'Bernie Bros'.

Things like this and "names" for fandoms also always seemed cringey to me, people love to shit on "Bronies", but it's no less cringey than "Trekkies", "Little monsters", "Animals", "Gleeks", "Whovians", "Homestucks" or whatever you have.

Im glad shit like "Gemtlemen" (For steven universe fans) and "Fallers" (for Gravity Falls fans) were immediatedly shot down.

 

[BocoDragon]

Preaching to the converted? SJW became a bannable word on GAF almost immediately after it became a thing.

The funny thing is, outside of GAF, I thought it actually became a pretty useful word to describe the relatively new culture of people who abrasively rage on the internet in the name of liberal issues. I've seen many liberals themselves use it - and not ironically or sarcastically, or just to describe opponents.

Not everyone who is a liberal or in favour of liberal activism thinks the phenomenon of liberal ragers are a good thing.

 

[Sushi Nao]

No it's not.

It's just a silly term. I personally don't care to the term, but not because of any gendered. It just sounds dumb.

I'd argue that men with actual man caves are more egalitarian in their thinking. Man caves are a very middle and upper middle class thing and studies have shown that those groups tend to be most progressive in terms of gender politics.

Yes it is.

"Rgh, this is our refuge from the women, they don't get what's cool to us men, so we gotta keep it in our man cave, last bastion of dudedom". Et cetera.

Just because someone has the financial means to have a space like this doesn't mean it's not a manifestation of gender division.

 

[CenturionKei]

Its just a part of the bullshit of toxic masculinity.


Stuff like SJW and Outrage Culture are typically used by people who either fall under the umbrella of gamergate or people who don't want their insulated, usually outdated viewpoints challenged by outside thinking.

Please tell me your joking?

Because just because someone dosen't agree with your extremist viewpoints, dosen't mean there viewpoints are outdated.

 

[Schweinehund]

life hack

 

[Sol..]

I find the term fascinating, trying to vilify people for having and displaying empathy for others is comic book level evil. It's never going to be a good look no matter how you spin it. So its astounding to me that people use it and I want to get them to tell me more about how they really feel. Preferably around as many people as possible.

 

[GeordieMark]

Dudebro winds me right up.

life hack

Oh yes! This too. Everything seems to be a 'hack' these days

 

[NaturalHigh]

It's meant to be an insulting term used to describe people that care "too much" about social issues instead of the important things you should get angry about on the internet like video game review scores, completely accurate adaptations of books you like, and whether or not a costumed super hero looks cool enough. The things that really matter.

It's kind of vague and tends to just mean, "You consider issues important that I don't think about at all so you must be some kind of radical extremist." People insist that at one time it was more specific and only referred to a particular kind of progressive, but now it's sort of a catch-all for people you see as too liberal or simply liberal in ways you don't approve of.

Thank you kindly for clarifying. Hopefully I can continue to avoid seeing someone guilty of such behavior.

 

[injurai]

I'd argue that men with actual man caves are more egalitarian in their thinking. Man caves are a very middle and upper middle class thing and studies have shown that those groups tend to be most progressive in terms of gender politics.

The hell did I just read?

 

[SL128]

Cuck is worse

 

[Inferno313]

Preaching to the converted? SJW became a bannable word on GAF almost immediately after it became a thing.

The funny thing is, outside of GAF, I thought it actually became a pretty useful word to describe the relatively new culture of people who abrasively rage on the internet in the name of liberal issues. I've seen many liberals themselves use it - and not ironically or sarcastically.

Not everyone who is a liberal or in favour of liberal activism thinks the phenomenon of liberal ragers are a good thing.

I think it meant that for a hot-second, but language is fluid and with the internet it changes faster than ever.

Nowadays, it's almost exclusively used by MRA and Gamergate types towards anyone who is even slightly more progressive then them.

 

[entremet]

Yes it is.

"Rgh, this is our refuge from the women, they don't get what's cool to us men, so we gotta keep it in our man cave, last bastion of dudedom". Et cetera.

Just because someone has the financial means to have a space like this doesn't mean it's not a manifestation of gender division.

You do know that people with man caves usually share them with their wives and girlfriends.

It's not a no girls allowed thing.

It's about having a space which the design and decor may be dictated by the guy since traditionally women have had more say regarding a home's decor.

Sorry, but you're immensely mistaken and appropriating inconclusive jumps in logic.

Again, I don't care for the term, but saying it promotes toxic masculinity is a huge leap. GG.

 

[FiggyCal]

social experiment

 

[BocoDragon]

I think it meant that for a hot-second, but language is fluid and with the internet it changes faster than ever.

Nowadays, it's primarily used by MRA and Gamergate types towards anyone who is even slightly more progressive then them.

I still hear it routinely on those venues that are not hard left or right.... i.e. Joe Rogen, Dave Rubin, etc.

 

[Salmonax]

"Hipster", due to being so utterly vague. "Pretentious", too, which usually means "I don't want to have to think about this".

Can we put "overrated" on that list? But yes, SJW is a terribly annoying term that basically outs the user as some shade of angry bigot.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

No it's not.

It's just a silly term. I personally don't care to the term, but not because of anything gendered. It just sounds dumb.

I'd argue that men with actual man caves are more egalitarian in their thinking. Man caves are a very middle and upper middle class thing and studies have shown that those groups tend to be most progressive in terms of gender politics.

The image I have in my head of a man cave is a basement with scantily clad women on the walls, mounted animals heads, and sports stuff everywhere. I think it's the term itself that is the problem. Putting "man" as a adjective tends to denote some stupid idea of masculinity. Having a room for yourself apart from the bedroom you share with your spouse isn't something that needs to be lumped in with toxic masculinity, or anything like that. If you had your own room as a kid was it a "kid cave"? Something like den, personal library, or lounge is a better descriptor.

Please tell me your joking?

Because just because someone dosen't agree with your extremist viewpoints, dosen't mean there viewpoints are outdated.

There is another word to go with SJW and Outrage Culture, extremist.

 

[cubicle47b]

The funny thing is, outside of GAF, I thought it actually became a pretty useful word to describe the relatively new culture of people who abrasively rage on the internet in the name of liberal issues. I've seen many liberals themselves use it - and not ironically or sarcastically.

Not everyone who is a liberal or in favour of liberal activism thinks the phenomenon of liberal ragers are a good thing.

It's definitely used by some liberals un-ironically, but I wouldn't say it's useful. Liberal activists bullying people they disagree with is certainly a problem, but using a derogatory term to describe a group of people just makes them angry, not introspective.

 

[Messofanego]

I hate the word "toxic." Calm down now, you're talking about video games and not a chemical attack.

Toxic, poisonous, are valid terms when describing some things that go on for a long period and leads to more problems like a disease. Radicalisation, cults, terrorism, there has to be a long psychological shift like programming/brainwashing in a stable person to go on to do untoward things. Many older people are now much more right-wing than ever before.

With videogames and sexist values, it's been a long relationship since the start where people don't think out of a specific box. So to some just having a female protagonist, or demands for diversity seems so alien to them as they've seen white males for so long as the status quo. That could be described as a toxic relationship of some gamers when coming across female/minority representation.

 

[injurai]

You do know that people with man caves usually share them with their wives and girlfriends.

It's not a no girls allowed thing.

It's about having a space which the design and decor may be dictated by the guy since traditionally women have had more say regarding a home's decor.

Sorry, but you're immensely mistaken and appropriating inconclusive jumps in logic.

Again, I don't care for the term, but saying it promotes toxic masculinity is a huge leap. GG.

I can agree with this. But why does a man cave correlate at all with egalitarianism and progressive gender politics?

 

[captainnapalm]

Its just a part of the bullshit of toxic masculinity.


Stuff like SJW and Outrage Culture are typically used by people who either fall under the umbrella of gamergate or people who don't want their insulated, usually outdated viewpoints challenged by outside thinking.

I love the irony of those two sentences following each other. Raging at 'SJW' and 'outrage culture', while using 'toxic masculinity'.

Anyway, social justice warriors do exist. I think the term is meant to identify a kind of pretense and hypocrisy amongst certain types of personalities you come across online, but it's true that some people are using it to refer to anyone campaigning for any form of social justice, which is not the correct usage.

For me, it would only apply to these fakers that appear to be all about their own egos and giving voice to their own sense of anger, entitlement and resentment. People who claim to be acting for the betterment of society, when they're really just negative, divisive and destructive - or just purely doing it for profit or to gain attention.

 

[Sushi Nao]

You do know that people with man caves usually share them with their wives and girlfriends.

It's not a no girls allowed thing.

It's about having a space which the design and decor may be dictated by the guy since traditionally women have had more say regarding a home's decor.

Sorry, but you're immensely mistaken and appropriating inconclusive jumps in logic.

How gracious of them.

People affected by outdated social structures can still be implicit in their implementation. There's lots of black cops in the US, but it doesn't explain away severe racial bias.

And you're still defending your point with traditional ideas of gender roles in the home. Not particularly convincing.

My girlfriend has decorated about 99% of the house with minimal input from me.

My office space is organized to my liking and is the closest thing I have to a man cave. And I plan to have a semblance of a man cave/theater room in my next house.

It's not going to be an anti-woman room at all.

I really have no idea what you're talking about. A man referring to his space of the house that was driven largely by his input (as opposed to the rest of the house) is not inherently some anti-woman sentiment.

I appreciate your anecdotal example. I'm concerned with the overall picture that is more insidious than one chill dude's experience with his cool wife.

 

[GeordieMark]

Did not know that. The image I have in my head if a man cave is a basement with scantily clad women on the walls, mounted animals heads, and sports stuff everywhere. I think it's the term itself that is the problem. Putting "man" as a adjective tends to denote some stupid idea of masculinity.


There is another word to go with SJW and Outrage Culture, extremist.

What's wrong with a guy having a room dedicated to his interests in his own home? My girlfriend has an entire room for her clothes, and for getting ready. Its cool with me. You need to lighten up.

Extremist is a perfectly valid term too. The issue here is when these terms are used out of context or incorrectly, or are co-opted. There is nothing inherently wrong with the terms being mentioned here in most cases. Its how they are used, or misused, is the problem.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

Yes it is.

"Rgh, this is our refuge from the women, they don't get what's cool to us men, so we gotta keep it in our man cave, last bastion of dudedom". Et cetera.

Just because someone has the financial means to have a space like this doesn't mean it's not a manifestation of gender division.

My girlfriend has decorated about 99% of the house with minimal input from me.

My office space is organized to my liking and is the closest thing I have to a man cave. And I plan to have a semblance of a man cave/theater room in my next house.

It's not going to be an anti-woman room at all.

I really have no idea what you're talking about. A man referring to his space of the house that was driven largely by his input (as opposed to the rest of the house) is not inherently some anti-woman sentiment.

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

There's no such thing as "Social Justice Warrior" it's just a non-insult that comes across as a 6 year old learning to be mean but not old enough to cuss yet.

 

[entremet]

I can agree with this. But why does a man cave correlate at all with egalitarianism and progressive gender politics?

Man cave is a traditionally yuppie thing. And most yuppies aren't for a regression in gender equality or toxic masculinity. That stats just don't show that.

How gracious of them.

People affected by outdated social structures can still be implicit in their implementation. There's lots of black cops in the US, but it doesn't explain away severe racial bias.

And you're still defending your point with traditional ideas of gender roles in the home. Not particularly convincing.

And you're looking things as complete abstractions. That's not the real world. Gender roles can exist without it being antagonistic to the concept of gender being fluid.

Strange that you see choice in conforming to gender roles as a negative. If people want to conform, let them conform. But they still play a huge part today, otherwise we why aren't women proposing to men for marriage en masse? Why hasn't that changed? Is it bad that such observed gender behavior hasn't changed?

This black and white thinking is silly.

 

[neshcom]

SJW certainly plays into it, but the whole "ugh, we're so PC now" argument is ten times more annoying than anything anyone saying that has ever complained about.

I don't understand the need for some to make sure we're taking people who unironically use SJW in full consideration instead of just ignoring them. Besides the golden rule, those sorts of people are not interested in hearing what I'd have to say in opposition. Why get my blood pressure up?

 

[Fuchsdh]

social experiment

Mostly because saying this somehow exempts you from good experimental design and basic tenets of science, yeah.

 

[Shuggananas]

To answer OP, the worst term is actually hype
I can hardly watch AGDQ nowadays because of it. Works for a lot of twitch streams too

 

[injurai]

Man cave is a traditionally yuppie thing. And most yuppies aren't for a regression in gender equality or toxic masculinity. That stats just don't show that.

Growing up man cavs seemed to be just as equally yuppie offices and living rooms as they were a conservative dad's workshop or media center basement. I don't see the correlation going either way.

 

[cubicle47b]

You do know that people with man caves usually share them with their wives and girlfriends.

It's not a no girls allowed thing.

It's about having a space which the design and decor may be dictated by the guy since traditionally women have had more say regarding a home's decor.

Sorry, but you're immensely mistaken and appropriating inconclusive jumps in logic.

Again, I don't care for the term, but saying it promotes toxic masculinity is a huge leap. GG.

Yeah, this is a good description. I mostly associate man caves with home theaters.

 

[Jenenser]

Yes it is.

"Rgh, this is our refuge from the women, they don't get what's cool to us men, so we gotta keep it in our man cave, last bastion of dudedom". Et cetera.

Just because someone has the financial means to have a space like this doesn't mean it's not a manifestation of gender division.

erm... what? if you life with your girlfriend/wife, most parts of the home and the decoration will be mandated by her and most women don't wanna see stiupid toys from manchildren in their livingspace.
a "mancave" is perfectly acceptebal.

 

[billeh]

Oh, how about 'Bernie Bros'.

Bernie Bro is just code for millennial.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

I love the irony of those two sentences following each other. Raging at 'SJW' and 'outrage culture', while using 'toxic masculinity'.

Its a real thing. The idea of femininity and masculinity are net negatives. They just serve to separate the genders and enforce a hierarchy. "God forbid if a man uses a flower scented shampoo, he needs to use Old Spice Manly Shampoo for Men or else he isn't a real man."

Toxic masculinity causes men a tangible amount of psychological and emotional distress. They are expected to fill a predefined role and act in a predefined way and if they don't they fear being ostracized. I know as a kid I went through that crap. "Pink!? That's for girls!"

That kind of shit.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

Man cave is a traditionally yuppie thing. And most yuppies aren't for a regression in gender equality or toxic masculinity. That stats just don't show that.

What? Only people I've ever heard using mancave are suburban blue-collar workers.

 

[Coffee Dog]

It's definitely used by some liberals un-ironically, but I wouldn't say it's useful. Liberal activists bullying people they disagree with is certainly a problem, but using a derogatory term to describe a group of people just makes them angry, not introspective.

But if they use derogatory terms to fellate themselves atop their high horse rather than encourage discussion, then they were the SJW all along.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

Social Justice Warrior or Outrage Culture are generally used by the laziest people to make judgenents about social issues. It very rately holds any relevence in any debate. If you disagree with the opposition you csn make a better point than "oh those SJW". I mean come the fuck on.

Extreme viewpoints are available everywhere about every topic. You dont genuinely take those people to task.

 

[maruchan]

Every time i hear it. i think that bastard glen bleck won.. he was on his anti social justice crusade since the last election. which is the reason i cant take anyone seriously who uses such a word..

 

[Trojita]

Why aren't Men's Rights Activists considered Social Justice Warriors, too?

MRAs have never actually done anything.

Using the medieval warrior imagery, they'd more accurately be compared to the children hiding underground during the war.

Men's Rights Onion Knights

 

[BocoDragon]

It's definitely used by some liberals un-ironically, but I wouldn't say it's useful. Liberal activists bullying people they disagree with is certainly a problem, but using a derogatory term to describe a group of people just makes them angry, not introspective.

Of course, when used as a direct dismissal of a person.

When used in generalities "those SJW types..." it refers to a shorthand that we all understand. Again I've seen liberals default to it because it's very descriptive. It's akin to the word "white knight" that was popular in feminist circles a few years ago.

When I hear "those SJWs" from a liberal, I instantly know what they mean: typically a younger millennial, maybe someone who was brought up with liberal politics and lacks nuance on the subjects beyond a first or second year college course, raging about it in all caps on tumblr or Facebook. It's not just being a liberal advocate: It's those people who seem to be shadow boxing "enemies" with every sanctimonious word.

But hey. I wouldn't use the word. I know too well how it's also associated with some real cavemen...

 

[injurai]

Bernie Bro is just code for millennial.

Speaking of coded language.

It's become a way of putting words in someone's mouth. That or someone denying you what you mean until you use their semantics.