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It All Began With... Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep |OT|
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Also, you do NOT want to fight the first secret boss in your final story save file. Because you can only fight the 2nd secret boss
. You want to train up your character clear data (Terra, Aqua, or Ven) and fight the first secret boss in their clear data.
In other words, if you spend many hours training up
in final story and defeat the first secret boss, you cannot fight the second,
. Your many hours training go to waste.
In short: You can't fight the 2nd secret boss in the Final episode.
at the land of departure which doesn't exist in Final Story
In other words, if you spend many hours training up
Aqua
because Land of Departure doesn't exist
In short: You can't fight the 2nd secret boss in the Final episode.
WrenchNinja
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Fuu said:
Christopher Lee is not the one voicing Ansem there, it's Corey Burton. He voices Yen Sid and Captain Hook too.
EDIT: Nevermind. Beaten. Stupid slow internet. D:
ExtraKr1spy
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CryptiK said:
Use Magic.
Abuse Magnega, Zero Graviga, Thundaga, Mega Flare, Seeker Mines.
Fimbulvetr
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CryptiK said:
She has the worst attack and defense of the three.
Use lots of magic and make sure to make a lot of HP boosting abilities.
jaundicejuice
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So of the older Kingdom Hearts games, which ones are worth playing? At the moment I'm only looking at acquiring the first two mainline entries. I've been hearing bad things about 358/2 Days, people saying it's the worst game in the series. What about the PS2 iteration of Chain of Memories? Should I just stick to KH1 and 2?
ExtraKr1spy
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358/2 Days has a decent story but the worlds are the same as KH1. I liked the panel system they used for leveling up though.
Fimbulvetr
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jaundicejuice said:
If you haven't played it yet; make sure you play Birth By Sleep last, as it makes every other game in the series feel disappointing in comparison.
jaundicejuice
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Phenomic said:
Okay, I'll scratch Chain of Memories off of the list as well. The two main line games will be enough anyways.
Fimbulvetr said:
Ha ha, damn, I'm playing Birth By Sleep right now. It's what spurred the question. I managed to pick up Kingdom Hearts II but it looks like I'll have to order the first game online. Guess I should hold off on playing more of Birth By Sleep then, problem is I'm enjoying it quite a bit.
KuwabaraTheMan
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ExtraKr1spy said:
I must have missed Twilight Town and Beast's Castle when they showed up in KH1. The lack of totally new worlds in 358/2 Days was a bummer, but the panel system and the challenges made it completely worth playing.
Pacing issues aside I was surprised with how well the gameplay worked on the DS given the limitations. The game gets shat on a lot but it's worth a try. Worst KH but still an average game, it worked fine as a good portable diversion at the time.
On BbS, I thought that doing the time attacks on the races and winning on every board at the Arena would take a while but it goes quick because you can just go 1x1. For the Command Boards my opponent is stunned during almost the entire match. :lol
On BbS, I thought that doing the time attacks on the races and winning on every board at the Arena would take a while but it goes quick because you can just go 1x1. For the Command Boards my opponent is stunned during almost the entire match. :lol
jaundicejuice
Member
Order placed for the original Kingdom Hearts, guess I'll put my play through of Birth By Sleep on hold for now. As for Days, if I really enjoy I, II and BbS, I might check it out.
I'm playing KH1 and Days side-by-side, and I'm not exactly having a horrible time of it.
Days surprisingly controls and plays better than 1, which is really quite clunky and marred by terrible jumping/platforms and one of the worst cameras ever. Days might get redundant at times, but it's not nearly as chunky. And considering the DS hardware, Days is kind of impressive in some respects. Days' panel leveling system is also quite awesome.
That said, I popped BbS in for a few minutes, and even with such a shallow stab at the game, I can tell that it controls and plays best. Feels GREAT.
Days surprisingly controls and plays better than 1, which is really quite clunky and marred by terrible jumping/platforms and one of the worst cameras ever. Days might get redundant at times, but it's not nearly as chunky. And considering the DS hardware, Days is kind of impressive in some respects. Days' panel leveling system is also quite awesome.
That said, I popped BbS in for a few minutes, and even with such a shallow stab at the game, I can tell that it controls and plays best. Feels GREAT.
Crash Station
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Done. Final boss was an even bigger bitch than
Anyway, let me see if I have this right.
Am I missing something? If not, that just makes
Anyway, off to see the secret ending on youtube or something.
when you face him as Terra.
Anyway, let me see if I have this right.
Ventus' heart or soul or whatever stowed away in Sora while his body is left to rot. 10 years later, he would be awakened as Roxas with no memory after Sora becomes a heartless.
Ven/Roxas' fate even more depressing.
Anyway, off to see the secret ending on youtube or something.
Fimbulvetr
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cosmicblizzard said:
Ven and Roxas aren't the same person.
Roxas was still Sora's nobody, first and foremost. Roxas did take on Ven's apparence and was able to have emotion's because of Ven's heart.
Roxas was still Sora's nobody, first and foremost. Roxas did take on Ven's apparence and was able to have emotion's because of Ven's heart.
Crash Station
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Fimbulvetr said:
I see. Well the next thing I was gonna ask was
is Ven still inside Sora after the events of KH2, but I just watched the secret ending and it looks like he got out somehow. Did Sora do something in KH1 to cause that to happen or was that just someone's imagination? If it's the former, how the hell did Ven's body survive for 10 years (yeah, I know how bodies work in this universe, but still...)?
Fimbulvetr
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cosmicblizzard said:
Since he was with Roxas he should be back with Sora now that they fused back together. They'll probably need Aqua's help to fix him anyway.
Crash Station
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Fimbulvetr said:
So I'm guessing that could happen in KH3D maybe.
Well, it's nice that the whole trio didn't die like I was expecting.
Fimbulvetr
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xero273 said:
Okay, let's start from the beginning.
Before BBS:When Ven had his darkness removed his heart became unstable and almost disappeared. Sora was born just as this was happening and filled the missing gap of Ven's heart with part of his. As a result Ven was able to live without darkness.
BBS: When Ven defeated Vanitas he was able to reclaim his lost darkness but the shock of destroying the X-Blade almost made his heart disappear. Luckily, thanks to his connection with Sora, Ven's heart was able to use Sora's body as a resting place until it could recover and return to its original body.
KH1: When Sora sacrificed himself to the darkness to save Kairi, he created Roxas. Ven's heart went with Roxas; and though Roxas is Sora's Nobody, having Ven's heart inside him gave him Ven's appearance and the ability to feel emotions despite being a Nobody.
KH2: Roxas fuses with Sora, as a result Ven's heart also returned to him. Presumably until they kind find Aqua and have her lead them to Ven's body.
BBS: When Ven defeated Vanitas he was able to reclaim his lost darkness but the shock of destroying the X-Blade almost made his heart disappear. Luckily, thanks to his connection with Sora, Ven's heart was able to use Sora's body as a resting place until it could recover and return to its original body.
KH1: When Sora sacrificed himself to the darkness to save Kairi, he created Roxas. Ven's heart went with Roxas; and though Roxas is Sora's Nobody, having Ven's heart inside him gave him Ven's appearance and the ability to feel emotions despite being a Nobody.
KH2: Roxas fuses with Sora, as a result Ven's heart also returned to him. Presumably until they kind find Aqua and have her lead them to Ven's body.
Darkky said:
Sora knew, but he was a little kid so he probably didn't get what was going on and probably forgot about it too.
WrenchNinja
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It's at the very beginning. Like when you start a new file and not skip the tutorial. If you have Theatre Mode unlocked, try looking at the cutscenes in "The Outside World" section of each character.Darkky said:
Because
Ventus' heart was just resting in Sora's body. So when Sora used the Keyblade on himself to free Kairi's heart, Ventus' heart left with Sora's body.
Pureauthor
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Darkky said:
The very first scene in the game.
DualShadow
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Just finished Ven's story. Kinda wishing I played Ven first even though I think I enjoyed Terrra's a little bit more. I just think there is more "story" in Ven's and I think some of that was spoiled in Terra's.
Still great though
Still great though
For the Arena part of the report I'm only missing the final challenge + half of the medal achievements. I got Captain Dark/Justice to appear 4 times while I was doing the command boards there but
, uugh.
apparently you can only get Pete's D-link on the start menu's boards
Looking back and making sense of it is part of the fun though.Jigsaw said:i wish the games would explain it this simple with only 9 lines of text
Pureauthor
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Kingsora said:
Equip your first Shotlock - the Shadow Element one.
As soon as the battle starts, Lock On.
Release when he does. You're invincible for the duration of the animation.
Fimbulvetr
Member
After seeing the secret ending; I'm pissed that I just realized the pun in the intro to KH2, and that
.
Kairi is content with staying behind again. You have a keyblade now; use it.
Hey guys help me with the
, how the hell do I defeat this guy?
Also after defeating Terra's story do I then proceed with the other two's stories? Should I use a new save file or the same save file for the other two? Also when do I unlock the final chapter, is it after I complete all three stories?
Also after finishing the game is it OK if I start to play KH 1 or should I try another game first?
Thanks.
second Xeonhort fight
Also after defeating Terra's story do I then proceed with the other two's stories? Should I use a new save file or the same save file for the other two? Also when do I unlock the final chapter, is it after I complete all three stories?
Also after finishing the game is it OK if I start to play KH 1 or should I try another game first?
Thanks.
Mr_Brit said:
dodge heal dodge heal shotlock
rinse and repeat
yes,the game even recommends to keep the clear game data for every character,to open the final chapter you need to complete all 3 characters AND collect all of xehanorts reports...keep in mind that 1 report can only be found in the mirage arena as terra,though if you complete the game with terra,you can load the clear data,get the report and save,you dont need to do terras boss fights again
yes,go with kh1 (even though it's unplayble by todays standard's),then recom,reverse rebirth,kh2,358 days
How hard are these reports to collect and is the final chapter a proper sized experience or is it literally just a throwaway 2 minute cutscene epilogue that I can watch on youtube instead?Jigsaw said:
Played the game on GBA and thought it was terrible, nearly put me off the whole series.Jerk 2.0 said:
Crash Station
Member
Mr_Brit said:
The final chapter
is playable but pretty short. It's like the true final boss and that's it.
And the reports are not hard to collect at all. By the time I finished all 3 characters, I only had 2 left which took me 10 minutes to get.