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[COCKLES]

Fuck the BBC.

This new series of Doctor Who is turning out to be complete fucking shit.

Tonights episode 'World War 3'. Lame aliens trying to nuke the Earth so they can sell it as junk for space fuel. Crap rubber aliens...dodgy FX....shit Doctor. Lightweight jokes.

Thanks for raping my childhood BBC.

Hopefully the Daleks can rescue this mess next week.

It's saying something when I'm more looking forward to the next episode of Enterprise then I am the next one of my favourite TV series EVAR!

 

[Nikashi]

Fuck the BBC.

This new series of Doctor Who is turning out to be complete fucking shit.

Tonights episode 'World War 3'. Lame aliens trying to nuke the Earth so they can sell it as junk for space fuel. Crap rubber aliens...dodgy FX....shit Doctor. Lightweight jokes.

Dude, the FX on the old Dr. Who weren't even state of the art when it originally aired, this is like a tribute. And no one else will be Tom Baker, so stop complaining

 

[Date of Lies]

TV is generally shit anyway, stop wasting your time

 

[NohWun]

Sounds just like the old old Dr. Whos.

Just keep taking the stupid pills, and eventually they'll be enjoyable again.

Oh, wait, they're already in the water.

 

[jonhuz]

Tuned in, saw the worst looking Aliens ever, tuned out. I gave it a shot man, it's just so far behind US tv, in terms of story and visual effects.

 

[kgHavok23]

thats a rather misleading thread title....I mean I wasn't expectin....ah hell nevermind

 

[COCKLES]

Tuned in, saw the worst looking Aliens ever, tuned out. I gave it a shot man, it's just so far behind US tv, in terms of story and visual effects.

Feeble isn't it.

Laughable thing is they showed a clip on the BBC3 Dr Who confidential show of the Battlefield story from Sylvester McCoy's era (the most cheaply budget era ever) and the main monster shat all over the new ones (the biggest budget TV serial ever made by the BBC. That's just fucking poor. And you Americans have to remember, us poor Brits are paying for this shit - with a fucking licence fee!

 

[Keyser Soze]

Great I just created a thread proclaiming my love for the next episode and I come in here expecting to shield my eyes against gay sex and I find something even more disturbing and I never fucking shielded my eyes!!!

Doc Who is not great, but it is far from terrible. It is a fun watch every weekend and next week should be funner* than the other 5 put together!!

*MS Word tells me that is not a word but fuck them

 

[COCKLES]

Dude I love Dr Who - I've got a 5 phrase Dalek sitting on my desk right here. But Russell T Davies's episodes (with exception of EOTW) have been complete shit so far.

I'm praying the Daleks will kick arse.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Dude I love Dr Who - I've got a 5 phrase Dalek sitting on my desk right here. But Russell T Davies's episodes (with exception of EOTW) have been complete shit so far.

I'm praying the Daleks will kick arse.

Same here, End of the World was the only episode that impressed me. Infact the CG in that seemed far above any of the other episodes (EOTW was on of the later episodes the CG team worked on I believe) the writing was genuinely funny, serious ect at the times when it needed to be. The other were watchable and fun to watch once but I would not want to get the DVD in September to see them again.

I think I read somewhere (don’t ask me where) that EOTW was the 5th episode they filmed after the four you were unimpressed by so maybe from now on the show will pick up and the writers, actors and CG guys might just get into their stride. I hope.....

PS: I want a 5 phrase Dalek now....

 

[Mr Mike]

This series has been consistent. Consistently terrible. The acting, writing, production values - it's all absolute crap. The proles that think otherwise are thick as shit.

 

[AntoneM]

on a related note... last weekend I was chilling at my bar and met a dude who seemed pretty cool, he told me what it was like being in the Army and we talked about the Suns game that was on. Anyway he said he was going to a different bar and wanted to know if I wanted to come, naively, I said "sure". So we're in his car and he asks if I want to smoke up, being one to never deny free weed I said "sure". Anyway we get to the bar and I'm droned as hell and he asks if I knew where we were (should have been the point at which I bailed) and I said "sure", so we get inside and the place is totally fucking dead. It's then I start to notice that the place is full of guys and tranvestites (thank you GAF). Thank god I noticed otherwise I may have forcefully lost my anal virginity to this dude. As it is I have an intersting, ok not that interesting story, and a not so relevant post. I just wanted to share. Have a good day

 

[Blackie]

Wow, MCool. It seems, like, so totally obvious from the outset that the guy was hitting on you. And you didn't see it when he asked you to smoke with him?

Also you saved this thread for me. I came in expecting more stories like yours.

 

[AntoneM]

eh, I must have terrible gaydar or something. Not surpising since I grew up in North Dakota, not that gay people don't live there but they definately move out once they reach 18.

 

[iapetus]

Separated at birth, but mysteriously developed the same acting skills.

I've heard good things about the Dalek episode, though. I'd say this means I'm going to give the show one last chance but who am I kidding? I'm going to watch every episode even if it sucks as badly as Enterprise.

 

[suaveric]

How's this for up the ass- I just got a $100 parking ticket for double-parking my car for less than five minutes while I ran inside my landlord's house to get my new keys. I had my blinkers on! 100 fucking dollars!!

 

[Mama Smurf]

The show is so poorly written. I'm just completely embarrassed to be British when I see something like that. Forget the poor acting and effects...the writing's the real problem.

Having said that, every so often the show takes a serious turn and the writing improves vastly. Like in the first episode where the Doctor talks about being able to feel the earth moving for example.

The US is just so far ahead when it comes to these sorts of shows. And it's not like I expect British shows to be able to keep up with the effects work, but the writing is a level playing field. You look at British comedy and that's something to be proud of, this isn't.

Reminds me of that show which was on for a while, Strange. Starred Geoff from Coupling. It was supposed to be a bit like X-Files or Buffy (only not funny), but I just had my head in my hands the whole way through. I don't even know if it's a lack of talent, I sometimes get the feeling these writers haven't even seen those shows and have no idea what they're up against.

 

[AntoneM]

not to fret, you're comparing a nation of at most 70 million? to a nation of 300 million both of which have a similary high level of living. Of course the one with a pool of 300 million is going to come out ahead in overall talent. Individual achievements on the otherhand are quite the toss up.

 

[COCKLES]

The show is so poorly written. I'm just completely embarrassed to be British when I see something like that. Forget the poor acting and effects...the writing's the real problem.

Having said that, every so often the show takes a serious turn and the writing improves vastly. Like in the first episode where the Doctor talks about being able to feel the earth moving for example.

The US is just so far ahead when it comes to these sorts of shows. And it's not like I expect British shows to be able to keep up with the effects work, but the writing is a level playing field. You look at British comedy and that's something to be proud of, this isn't.

Reminds me of that show which was on for a while, Strange. Starred Geoff from Coupling. It was supposed to be a bit like X-Files or Buffy (only not funny), but I just had my head in my hands the whole way through. I don't even know if it's a lack of talent, I sometimes get the feeling these writers haven't even seen those shows and have no idea what they're up against.

Same guy who produced Strange does Doctor Who. He also produces Casualty. Nuff said really.

Whole thing just feels horribly lightweight. There's just no substance to the way the show is written, directed or acted. It's all wrong. Look at the TARDIS - with all the cranes ect they have to work with now there's a bigger budget, why does it materialise in the same pedestrian way every time. Plonk the TARDIS prop <HERE> - move the camera 20 paces away on the same level <HERE> and roll it in. No angles. No juxposition with the scenary. No imagination.

Funny thing that you should mention Enterprise Iapetus - I'm actually looking more forward to the remaining 5 episodes of that then the rest of Dr Who (Daleks aside). And if you'd have told me that a year ago I'd assume I'd must be in a mental asylum banging my head against the wall.

Britian has the TV talent, the actors, directors - it's just that like most comedy shows that the BBC produces, they never end up on BBC1. Dr Who is a show that should have been made with BBC2 or Channel 4 style production values - more edgy 'out there' style. Unfortuantly it looks like we're in for more lightweight pap with news that the two idiots out of Little Britian are being given cameo roles in series 2.

 

[Sqrt_minus_one]

*sigh* graphics whores in the gaming forum, graphics whores in the off topic forum.
will the bitching ever cease ?

Oh come on its not that bad, the crappy alien outfits are all part of the fun.

 

[Mama Smurf]

Oh come on its not that bad, the crappy alien outfits are all part of the fun.

Oh it is. If this was some no name show, I'd have stopped watching about 10 minutes into the first episode. As it is I'm giving it a chance, but so far...

I wanted to kill someone when, in that end of the world episode, the Doctor had to make it past those fans to get to some control panel. It's just such complete cliched crap. It's the sort of thing other shows take the piss out of (or movies like Galaxy Quest). The only thing I can hope is that it's some sort of tribute to old Doctor Who episodes, as I really can't remember them that well, but even if it is, there are better ways to do that.

 

[Diablos]

Here in America, I gave up on television shows a long, LONG time ago. You should too.

 

[Mama Smurf]

Oh come on, TV isn't that bad. Here's the shows I watch regularly:

24
Scrubs
The Amazing Race
The Office (that's right, I'm British but I still like the US version!)
Veronica Mars
Lost
Smallville
Alias
Revelations (it's just started, I know, but I'm enjoying it)
The OC
Joey (it's funny sometimes ok!)
Numb3rs
Deadwood (possibly the best show on TV)
Carnivale
Arrested Development
The Sopranos (when it's on)

Some of these shows have gone a bit downhill, but I generally find they're worth watching. I'm not necessarily watching them all on TV...but if I could, I would.

And honestly, I find that a bit too much TV. I could probably do with a few of them not existing, it's more time than I'd like to spend in front of the box (but I can't resist it).

 

[.hacked]

what is Dr. Who anyway?

Think I remember a made for TV movie airing in the US (looked like a pilot for a TV show) but aside from that I have never seen it.

 

[Comfort_Eagle]

I love this show!

 

[Crow]

Dont.Take.Doctor.Who.Seriously ...the producers certainly don't. The show is great fun.

 

[Che]

Dont.Take.Doctor.Who.Seriously ...the producers certainly don't. The show is great fun.

Exactly. The show is not to be taken seriously. When you start doing that you'll like it.

 

[radioheadrule83]

Dont.Take.Doctor.Who.Seriously ...the producers certainly don't. The show is great fun.

I love cool avatars!

And I kind of agree. On ITV at the same time celebrity wrestling was on... and that was almost as much fun. Rowdy Roddy piper making so called celebrities *(that nobody has heard of) fight each other. Top stuff.

I loved the way the aliens were clearly crappy rubber suits when they were just standing there or whatever but when they were running about they were CG, and actually looked like they might remotely verge on scaring children.

I think the writing has been a bit throw away. I do remember the McCoy years being more enjoyable. I don't think Eccleston suits all of the grinning... when he's not, he's actually pretty good. Although even he couldn't pull off talking to that tree alien in the increasingly hot room...."No! You're made of wood!" :lol lmao

I'm gonna watch every single episode. And yeah, mostly because I like laughing at it. It's dated so badly already. But also because I'm a fan, and I wanna see it come good.

 

[Mama Smurf]

I'm all for fun shows. I don't for a second think all shows should take themselves seriously, and the costumes are the least of the problems, I can look past them.

None of that changes the basic bad writing though. Unless being fun and not taking your show seriously = sloppy, cliched writing. Which it doesn't.

 

[Spike]

Here in Canada, the fourth episode airs on Tuesday night. I missed the second episode, but of the two I have seen, I like it.

Let's see how next season, with a new Doctor goes. I personally like Eccleston, but I can understand why some wouldn't.