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[borghe]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050525/ap_on_en_mu/michael_jackson

So, looks like he could be acquitted as early as next week. Something tells me the jury liekly won't even deliberate a day on this.

There is no physical evidence of molestation
There is no eye witness evidence of molestation aside from the accuser and his brother
There is virtually no evidence of attempted kidnapping
the little circustantial evidence of the possibility of kidnapping has no link, circumstantial or otherwise, to jackson
there is no evidence that jackson gave alcohol to the kids, circumstantial or otherwise
the mother has been shown to defraud others before for money
the kids have been shown to have a pattern of rudeness and bad behavior before they ever met jackson
there is eye witness account (circumstantial) of having seen the kids drunk and mastrubating outside of jackson's company
three out of five of the complaints ever about jackson molesting kids were dismissed by the kids themselves
the only person to testify of being molested settled for a multimillion dollar settlement and never filed charges
friends of the family testified to wrong doings by the family

Either this is the most elaborate cover-up/smear job ever done by a celebrity, or jackson didn't do anything wrong. Either way, he will be acquitted by late next week, mark my words (on the late next week part.. everyone knows he will be acquitted).

 

[DarienA]

Regardless of whether or not he is guilty there is no f*ckin way the prosecution proved he was...

Personally I think MicJac is f*cked in the head... but I don't think he's guilty.

Hey did you hear the rumor that he sold Neverland? Supposedly he'll be giving up the keys almost immediately after this trial is over, apparently another part of the rumor is not only has he sold Neverland but after the aquittal once he turns over the keys he's moving out of the country.

 

[Phoenix]

Even if he did do something wrong, the prosecution didn't prove the case. They are just betting on a stupid jury so that they can turn around and use this case as the foundation for a multimillion dollar civil case against the Jackson estate.

 

[Triumph]

Who cares if he is guilty or not? Motherfucker should go to jail for being weird.

 

[borghe]

so that they can turn around and use this case as the foundation for a multimillion dollar civil case against the Jackson estate.

but they would never do that. err.. well, they did, but they won't do it again. they promise.

 

[DarienA]

Who cares if he is guilty or not? Motherfucker should go to jail for being weird.

 

[Triumph]

Now now... maybe he should just go to an insane asylum instead. He would look right at home next to the Joker!

 

[Kabuki Waq]

Who cares if he is guilty or not? Motherfucker should go to jail for being weird.

thats fucking republican talk!

 

[Manics]

Now Michael can go back to doing what he does best -- rocking the world with great songs!

 

[Smiles and Cries]

:lol :lol :lol

 

[Kuroyume]

Who cares if he is guilty or not? Motherfucker should go to jail for being weird.

 

[The Chosen One]

I think Maculey Culkin and Christ Tucker pretty much sealed the case for the defense. Culkin's friendship with Jackson was highly publicized for a long time and the fact that he was so emphatic about nothing ever inappropriate happening hurt the prosecution considering they're trying to paint Jackson as a serial pedophile.

Unlike the other comedians, Chris Tucker didn't crack jokes on the stand. He explained in a serious manner that the kid seemed up to no good and always asking for money. Maybe one is a coincidence, but when 3-4 celebrity witnesses say they were all suspicious of the accuser, then there's definitely a problem.

Anyway, I pretty much agree with borghe. The prosecution put up such a weak case that unless the jury is completely stupid, Jackson should be acquitted easily. It seems like the prosecution was counting on the jury to convict Jackson based on his bizarre looks and behavior because there was almost zero evidence related to the actual molestation and 99% of their witnesses had credibility problems.

 

[Phoenix]

Now Michael can go back to doing what he does best -- rocking the world with great songs!

He already made the only one needed for this occasion

"You can't win
You can't break even
And you can't get out of the game
People kee sayin'
Things are gonna change
But they look just like
They're stayin' the same

You can't win
Get over your head
And you only have yourself to blame
You can't win Child
(You can't win Child)
You ain't break even
And you can't get out of the game"

 

[Odnetnin]

what did you guys think of Leno's testimony? Apparently it was somewhat damaging to Jackson's case despite being called for by the defence.

 

[Dan]

So I was watching Jimmy Kimmel Live last night, and he showed a clip from Court TV talking about Chris Tucker going on the stand, and instead of showing a picture of Tucker, they showed a picture of Chris Rock. How bad is that?

 

[Escape Goat]

Why did he have to be be wearing a Cardinals shirt?

 

[Particle Physicist]

what did you guys think of Leno's testimony? Apparently it was somewhat damaging to Jackson's case despite being called for by the defence.

do you have a link to any news stories?

 

[gogogow]

do you have a link to any news stories?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4575317.stm

 

[The Chosen One]

what did you guys think of Leno's testimony? Apparently it was somewhat damaging to Jackson's case despite being called for by the defence.

It was only damaging in that Leno didn't say the accuser's family asked him for money. But he still did testify that he thought something was wrong and was wondering why 12 year old boy was sucking up to 50 year-old late night talk show host.

I wouldn't say Leno's testimony was damaging for the defense, it just didn't have the impact they were looking for.

 

[borghe]

the thing you guys have to remember about Leno is that he is a HIGHLY public figure. I would even argue more public than Jackson or Tucker. Leno says the wrong thing, and his show's ratings that take a hit every night. Also remember that the mom (the usual money grubber) wasn't the one that Leno was being questioned about. It was the kid, you know, the kid who fought off cancer... you just don't bad mouth that, even if he was money grubbing and reading off of a script. the mom on the other hand it's fine to bad mouth.

just my take on leno's testimony. sure it's not what the defense was hoping for, but if the defense thought for a second that a guy, who depends on his public appearance being impecable, was going to slam a cancer survivor for being a money whore, they were sorely mistaken.

 

[bjork]

We need a rerelease of Moonwalker, both Genesis and Arcade.

ps: he didn't do it imo.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

they should have just gone for R kelly i mean they have a fucking VIDEO!!!

 

[Azure Dream]

Either way, this has pretty much destroyed his career in the US (probably why he'd be moving out right afterward and selling Neverland). Even when proven innocent, just being _accused_ of pedophilia in this country destroys your life. Teachers get fired over accusations of it, and even if they're proven innocent beyond a shadow of a doubt, they're usually not rehired, and the people of that community still never quite trust the person. But if you move away, then people ask, "Why were you so quick to leave the area?"

 

[SolidSnakex]

You would've thought with how anxious they were to put him on trial that they would've had some really good evidence. But they didn't seem to have much at all. Their defense to the people Jacksons team brought up to say they slept in his bed and he didn't do anything to him was hilarious.

Prosecution: So he never molested you?
Kid: Nope.
Prosecution: Are you sure?
Kid: Yes i'm sure of it.
Prosecution: So what you're really saying is that he didn't molest you while you were awake, correct? You don't know what he did when you were sleeping.
Kid: I think I would've felt something if that was going on.

 

[borghe]

Either way, this has pretty much destroyed his career in the US

not true.. if you look at any poll on the internet (E online, CNN, etc) he is innocent in something like 88-91% of those polled's eyes. it is seriously some ridiculous number. this didn't do anything to hurt his career any worse than the 90's incidents did.

 

[Phoenix]

Either way, this has pretty much destroyed his career in the US (probably why he'd be moving out right afterward and selling Neverland). Even when proven innocent, just being _accused_ of pedophilia in this country destroys your life. Teachers get fired over accusations of it, and even if they're proven innocent beyond a shadow of a doubt, they're usually not rehired, and the people of that community still never quite trust the person. But if you move away, then people ask, "Why were you so quick to leave the area?"

The wealthy don't have these problems This would not be the first time MJackson has been accused of pedophillia, not even close.

 

[Azure Dream]

Not the first, no, but I don't remember the last time receiving quite the same focus and "coloring" by the media...

I'm surprised so many people consider him innocent, though, I thought beforehand that many had prejudged him to be guilty. I guess the defense really did well in a lot of people's eyes.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

I heard Gary Glitter needs a roomie!

 

[Xenon]

Either way, he has pretty much destroyed his career.

fixed.

After hearing the information that’s been coming out the last few months, I have to agree that the DA was out of his freaking mind to go ahead with this.

I still think its wrong for a grown man to need that type of intimacy from ONLY young boys. I would never let a kid of mine near him and feel sorry for any kid whose parent would.

 

[Shinobi]

I'm surprised so many people consider him innocent, though, I thought beforehand that many had prejudged him to be guilty. I guess the defense really did well in a lot of people's eyes.

Or the prosecution looked that fucking desperate and stupid...seriously, they made Clark and Darden look competent.

 

[maharg]

Either way, this has pretty much destroyed his career in the US

You can't kill something that's already dead.

 

[Aika'svyse]

I just hope the jurors see it for the sham it is. "The Germans" were going to kill us :lol

Michael Jackson tried to make us disappear in Brazil and send us away in an hot air balloon

Then you have that Crazy mother Janet Arviso threatening to kill the paralegal if she exposed her fraud case against JCPenny. Damn she got those guards fired for doing there jobs. Then you've got all this money and still collecting a check from the rest of us.

 

[The Chosen One]

Either way, this has pretty much destroyed his career in the US

Maybe if some shocking new revelation about Jackson came out in the trial, but the prosecution didn't show the world anything we don't already know.

- What, that he has porn in his bedroom? That was probably a score for the defense since it shows he still has some heterosexual tendencies.

-He slepts in bed with young boys? As bizarre as it is, we've known about that since the Bashir documentary where Jackson freely admitted it.

- Jackson has paid other out of court settlements to young boys beside the '93 kid? This could have been damaging, but when 3 of the 5 kids completely denied anything happened it really undercut the prosecution panting Jackson as a serial pedophile. Culkin helped Jackson a lot I think with public opinion.

Jackson was already a bizarre individual, which pretty much everyone has accepted. So the prosecution trying to show that he's weird or eccentric doesn't do anything to further the molestation case.

I think Michael Jackson's career will remain unchanged from this trial. People who think he's a sick pedo will still think that and people who believed in him will feel vindicated. He still has a sizable fan base to guarantee a couple million album sales but not much more.

The excessive plastic surgery and '93 molestation charge hurt his career the most.

 

[DarienA]

Destroyed his career in the US? Maybe... but MicJac has a MONSTROUS amount of international fans...

 

[RobotChant]

So I was watching Jimmy Kimmel Live last night, and he showed a clip from Court TV talking about Chris Tucker going on the stand, and instead of showing a picture of Tucker, they showed a picture of Chris Rock. How bad is that?

There was supposedly some celebrity event where Sharon Stone kept calling Chris Tucker, Chris Rock. The skit was a play on that.

 

[Xenon]

nm

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Destroyed his career in the US? Maybe... but MicJac has a MONSTROUS amount of international fans...

i always wondered why MJ doesn't just move to Europe They actually still love him over there, and he could probably diddle all the kids he wants all day long and nobody woudl do anything.

 

[norinrad21]

He still has a sizable fan base to guarantee a couple million album sales but not much more.

Hehehehe sort of OT but Mj reminds me of Nintendo.

Anyway i hope he has really putting up Neverland for sale or sold it already, that place has contributed to the destruction of his career in the US.

Anyway in Europe and Japan, he's fucking huge and rightfully so, if this had happened in europe, the case wouldn't even have gone to court. The DA had it in for MJ

 

[Shinobi]

i always wondered why MJ doesn't just move to Europe They actually still love him over there, and he could probably diddle all the kids he wants all day long and nobody woudl do anything.

Indeed...Mr T's still a god in the UK as well.

 

[ManaByte]

i always wondered why MJ doesn't just move to Europe They actually still love him over there, and he could probably diddle all the kids he wants all day long and nobody woudl do anything.

There's a rumor he'll move to France where they love him.

 

[Zaptruder]

Now now... maybe he should just go to an insane asylum instead. He would look right at home next to the Joker!

Do you really think you can tempt the abyss and not have it swallow you? Even if you're joking, at some point, a repetition of this behaviour will cause a slip. Couple that with just general assholish behaviour, and I think you're a prime candidate for a neo faci... republican convert.

 

[Dan]

There was supposedly some celebrity event where Sharon Stone kept calling Chris Tucker, Chris Rock. The skit was a play on that.

Er, what skit? The thing they showed on Kimmel was real footage of Court TV mistaking the two.

Of course, the truly funny thing was that it took that audience a while to figure it out (if at all), which left Kimmel a bit confused about how much he should make fun of the Court TV guy for screwing up.

 

[Ecrofirt]

If he's found guilty I'll know for a fact our system is broken. At that point in time, some of you may have to help me find a way out of this ass-backwards country.

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

I'm surprised so many people consider him innocent, though, I thought beforehand that many had prejudged him to be guilty. I guess the defense really did well in a lot of people's eyes.

Not really, I'm one of the few people that consider all suspects innocent until proven guilty. That's about the size of it.

If he is innocent then let him go if he is guilty send him to jail. That's all there is to it.

 

[Xenon]

Not really, I'm one of the few people that consider all suspects innocent until proven guilty.

Unless they are a member of the Bush administration

 

[ghostface]

Unless they are a member of the Bush administration

Yean but in that case they've been guilty of so many things that any assumptions of guilt will probably end up being true.

As for MJ, I don't expect people who believe he is guilty to change their minds if there is an acquittal. It was a shitty case the prosecution presented, with shitty witnesses.

With that said, gotta love seeing Tom Sneddon getting owned.

 

[borghe]

that is really the thing that sucks. Because of the fact that the prosecution just fucked up at every point, people who will always believe he is guilty have that to fall back on. "Had he been tried by a competent prosecutor, they would have found him for what he is," or something like that.

A friend of mine is like this. Convinced he did it no matter what. His reasoning was "They had a grand jury INDICT him for christ sake. They obviously had something to indict him on!!!!" To which another friend responded "A grand jury would indict a ham sandwich in a murder trial." which is probably pretty much the case.

 

[DarienA]

that is really the thing that sucks. Because of the fact that the prosecution just fucked up at every point, people who will always believe he is guilty have that to fall back on. "Had he been tried by a competent prosecutor, they would have found him for what he is," or something like that.

A friend of mine is like this. Convinced he did it no matter what. His reasoning was "They had a grand jury INDICT him for christ sake. They obviously had something to indict him on!!!!" To which another friend responded "A grand jury would indict a ham sandwich in a murder trial." which is probably pretty much the case.

... does that Ham sandwich have honey mustard or plain mustard on it?

 

[Dracos]

MJ could never be guilty people.

He made Thriller.....Thriller.

 

[themadcowtipper]

MJ could never be guilty people.

He made Thriller.....Thriller.

Wrong the MJ that made thriller was abducted by aliens sometime in the mid 80's to early 90's. This MJ is in fact an alien.