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Jade Raymond's new studio working directly with Cerny on GaaS game. Studio tripled in size since last year.
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Hobbygaming
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Sure they can and that's what a few of those 10 live service games will be, they want a their own COD like games to bring in the money
They better keep my Uncharteds, Spider-mans and Ghost of Tsushimas, etc though
Yoboman
Member
Sony lets its teams make what they want
What Japanese games did they put on the backburner?
01011001
Banned
they closed every japanese studio they had... for one... and the censor many japanese games that release uncensored on Switch
also, while the devs can make what they want, they are still also incentivized to make Money so they have a good standing at Sony. if you make games that make way less money than other teams at Sony, chances aren't bad you will eventually get your studio closed.
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kingfey
Banned
That
or This one
These companies know how extract money from their audience. It will be hard for Sony to be like them, without giving up, their core business. Its the classical “You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Their focus is primarily on big budget Western games now. Games like Gravity Rush, Ico, Knack, Siren, Shaow of the Colossus, Legend of Dragoon, Bloodborne(?), Ape Escape, etc have seemingly taken a backseat. Most of their games now are the big budget, cinematic Western style games.
Also, the entire Japan studio situation. To my knowledge, I think they only have 2 Japanese studios which are Japan Asobi and Polyphony. The rest of their developers are European and Western to my knowledge. Also, look at their latest acquisitions as well. Now they looking at live service games and I’m assuming I know the regions they will look at for developers to make these projects. That tells me their focus has really shifted.
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CityHunter1981
An Absolute Desaster
Well I really don't like to hear about these online games, because I don't give a damn, I am playing Playstation for their big single player games. But at the same time, I get that it is required to make also online games, because they create a constant income. I am happy to read then this news that this new studio is working on one of them and also Bungie, because it means Sony does not need to force one of their established studios to work on one of them.
Hobbygaming
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You're talking like this is an either or scenario. Fortnite exists with Uncharted 4. They will have their live service games and SP. We already know at least one of their live service games has SP
kingfey
Banned
Sony userbase is SP people. GAAS is not their type of games, considering the bashing xbox got, because of that label.
By doing GAAS, Sony would take a hit on their reputation, if some of those game fail, or it gets a disastrous launch.
People call Bethesda shit studio, after fo76.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
PlayStation made 2.1 billion from microtransactions in 2021. Which is more than digital + physical game sales combined.
Fortnite earned almost half (46%) its profits from PS4 players. The second highest earning platform was XBox One at 27%. PC, Switch, and phone was all lower.
Sonys userbase is multiplayer people. It's not 2018 anymore.
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kingfey
Banned
Again, those games are from 3rd party. We are talking Sony here. They released SP games only, with MP attached to it.
This gen, they will release GAAS by themselves.
Fortnite is from epic, not Sony.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
PS4 players don't care. The base leans multiplayer now.
The atmosphere around her reminds me of John Romaro or even Peter Molyneux. She gets all this hype but hasn't had a shipping project since her ubisoft days right? When she finally releases another game it probably wont be daikatana bad but i'm not sure it will live up to the decade or more of hype since her last release.
Hobbygaming
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People play COD and Fortnite on PS consoles already and PS has had games that haven't reviewed well before like Destruction Allstars. A few bad live service games wouldn't sink the ship
If a live service game fails people will look forward to other PS games
Live service done right would be something like Ghost of Tsushima Legends with updates
kingfey
Banned
That might work out in their favor though.
Hope they give us some bangers at least.
Hobbygaming
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Are you forgetting Destruction Allstars? It was one Sony attempt at Gaas and it didn't make much money but guess what, people are still hyped for Sifu, Horizon Forbidden West, God of War Ragnarok, etc
kingfey
Banned
Now we are talking.
You said ‘Sony’s userbase’. What’s first and third party got to do with that? Don’t move goalposts.
A huge portion of their user base plays the likes of FIFA, Apex, Warzone and Fortnite.
kingfey
Banned
I am not forgetting that game. It had potential, but it couldn't live with that potential sadly.
kingfey
Banned
Sony userbase aka, the SP guys. Not the console users.
Ghost of Caelid
Banned
1 successful GaaS will make more than almost any game the past decade...its the best risk vs reward.
How the heck are you on an enthusiast game forum and you don’t know ‘GaaS’ isn’t a genre, and you also don’t understand that the top 5 most played games on Xbox and PlayStation are GaaS games?
‘Nobody wants’ indeed. These takes…
kyliethicc
Member
bender
What time is it?
What's the next biggest GaaS on that list, if you know? GTA:Online?
Chasing GaaS is kind of funny as both of those are somewhat accidental. Fortnite didn't take off until they ripped off and inserted their PUBG mode into the game and I'm pretty sure the creative higher ups at R* didn't want to focus on the online.
I wonder what is the biggest current GaaS title is out there that is as intended by the creators.
Toots
Gold Member
The google traduction is good, the article mention a soon to be officialised Cerny’s collab, then right after there is the quote about working with the best in their field at Sony (not by Jade but by Paola jouyaux a co founder), which is pretty self explanatory. Raymond may have confirmed Cerny’s help off record because there will be a big reveal at the next state of play or something…
Edit : Paola jouyaux not Paolo…
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yurinka
Member
You're totally wrong, somewhere betwen 80-90% of the revenue generated from gaming is from GaaS games, and even a higher percentage of players play this type of games. This is why Sony, MS, Sega or other big publishers increased their bet on GaaS.
Oddvintagechap
Banned
Tencent laughs while looking at their wallets.
AncientOrigin
Member
If Factions will be a GaaS game we already know right now that it will be successful.A multiplayer game based of The Last of Us will be great the first had their fans but was together with the single player game.Now everyone knows a bit what to expect if they do it right what they will then we have already a successful GaaS game from Sony.
Zeroing
Banned
Nah that Soviet online game - tomorrow children!
nowhat
Member
Wasn't there some talk of resurrecting it?
Personally, I wouldn't mind - the premise was so absurd that I found it funny and the art style was great. Just that the core gameplay/progression definitely needed more work. With more time and effort it could be fun.
Zeroing
Banned
Yep that indie game with more development time and new things would be amazing! Maybe Japan studio or whatever it’s called now is working on it again I have no idea.
DarthPutin
Member
Most of them won't. They know that and try to get at least one or two hits. The rest will be prestige AAA SP games that bring guaranteed returns.
And then people will whine that all their games are single player AAA third person games. I mean, not me, I love those games...
There is no market (even with PC + mobile) for so many GAAS. Single player games are profitable because people play, finish and go to play other games. GAAS need get stable numbers on long time, and that is not possible with several GAAS from every video game company. So yes, I bet of 10 GAAS games Sony will release, 1 or 2 maybe will be successful the rest will fail.
I think we will see a similar thing that happened with Japanese companies on PS3 era with current big companies today, because the probably over saturated market by GAAS, NFT, Gacha
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Thirty7ven
Banned
Why would anybody be upset at this? If the studio was created with the idea of making evolving ever expanded social games, then that's what they should be making.
And Playstation as a brand should be associated with all types of gaming experiences.
And Playstation as a brand should be associated with all types of gaming experiences.
They had Polyphony Digital and Japan Studio before, and have Polyphony Digital and Team Asobi (which was part of Japan Studio before) now.
I must have missed the math classes where they explained how supposedly 2-2 is still equal to 2....
Still wondering who is doing GT7 which releases next month, since PD was closed...
Kydd BlaZe
Member
This.
It’s not like their main studios (Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Sucker Punch, etc) are doing GAAS games. These are new studios building new experiences that can coexist with Sony’s current single player offerings. I just hope these games are good, and them bringing Bungie along to help steer the ship is a good sign so far, as Destiny is pretty much the only GAAS game that has me hooked.
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BlackOlivesMatter
Banned
Jade Raymond is bae
Don't be talking shit
Don't be talking shit
Punished Miku
Banned
“designed to be owned by the fans”.
My NFT sense is tingling.
My NFT sense is tingling.
akaFullmetal
Member
GAAS games are lightning in a bottle, hard to make one that catches fire and spreads, even if it is a great game that doesn't guarantee success. The fan base needs to explode and latch to it.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
blah blah... when I hear these words or something like """redefining the genre""", "pushing the boundaries" "pushing the envelop" I'm instantly turned off.
nah, there's already too much self-expression going on online. I don't want to see the next level. I'd love to take a step back, though. We also don't ANOTHER """social""" platform...
reinking
Gold Member
Then why all of the concern over losing COD?
kingfey
Banned
Because people have the notion that, MS cant make that much money without Sony.
plus Sony studios do make SP games. That is how I am talking about. Not the crowd who play warzone, and other BR games.
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